In an age of celebrity endorsements, book-club picks and Amazon reviews, what is the state of once-vital literary criticism? How has the importance of robust and informed evaluation changed in an ever-crowded publishing market and an online sphere where everyone is potentially a critic? In this two-part series, Sydney Review of Books editor Catriona Menzies-Pike interviews four renowned critics about the future of literary criticism. This episode, Catriona speaks with award-winning literary critics Bernadette Brennan (A Writing Life: Helen Garner and Her Work) and Declan Fry – writer, poet, essayist and proud descendant of the Yorta Yorta.