ADHD can make it harder to engage in many spiritual practices that we've been told we should do. What happens, though, when we embrace a more inclusive way of pursuing God? In this episode, 

Petra's first guest is Mark Pierson, a worship curator. He has spent decades designing spaces for people to engage in worship that looks very different to a typical church service. 

Later in the episode, Petra talks to Laidlaw College's Academic Dean, Rev Dr Maja Whitaker, about the research she began after some students came to her and said "hey, this spiritual formation course you're teaching isn't working for us, and here's why..." Maja's work since has lead to a book that will be coming out in November, so keep your ear to the ground for that one.

Music:

• You are the Gold by Terrible Sons
• Innerspace by The Apples in Stereo
• Lalo o le Mauga by SANGUINE
• I'm Only Sleeping by The Beatles
• Free by Florence + The Machine
• Low Tides by Christoph El Truento