It’s been a little more than seven months since US President Donald Trump returned to the White House, and much has been made of his administration’s unprecedented actions when it comes to trade, geopolitics and domestic matters. There are plenty of detractors pointing to the downsides of the Republican’s moves, but we hear less about what the US should be doing instead. It raises the interesting question: what would the Democratic alternative be?

Host Stephanie Flanders and Noah Smith, a former columnist for Bloomberg Opinion and now a prominent Substack writer, ask whether—if the opposition party returns to power—should it return to the neoliberal policies of the Obama administration, or find its own populist message to match that of Trump? Or perhaps something in between?