Earlier this month host Stephanie Flanders sat down with Cathie Wood, the founder, CEO and chief investment officer of ARK Investment Management, at the Founders Forum Global conference in Oxford. They were joined by Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait and Bloomberg TV UK Correspondent Lizzy Burden. 

Wood gives her take on the 'great rotation' out of US stocks, why she believes investors rebalancing their portfolios, moving away from safe-haven tech stocks and towards riskier investments, and how that's shaping her outlook for the US dollar. 

The conversation was recorded on June 12, 2025. 

Earlier this month host Stephanie Flanders sat down with Cathie Wood, the founder, CEO and chief investment officer of ARK Investment Management, at the Founders Forum Global conference in Oxford. They were joined by Bloomberg Editor-in-Chief John Micklethwait and Bloomberg TV UK Correspondent Lizzy Burden.&nbsp;
Wood gives her take on the 'great rotation' out of US stocks, why she believes investors rebalancing their portfolios, moving away from safe-haven tech stocks and towards riskier investments, and how that's shaping her outlook for the US dollar.&nbsp;
The conversation was recorded on June 12, 2025.&nbsp;

Tariffs, crypto, deregulation, tax cuts, protectionism, are just some of the things back on the table when Donald Trump returns to the Presidency. To help you plan for Trump's singular approach to economics, Bloomberg presents Trumponomics, a weekly podcast focused on the Trump administration's economic policies and plans. Editorial head of government and economics Stephanie Flanders will be joined each week by reporters in Washington D.C. and Wall Street to examine how Trump's policies are shaping the global economy and what on earth is going to happen next.

Tariffs, crypto, deregulation, tax cuts, protectionism, are just some of the things back on the table when Donald Trump returns to the Presidency. To help you plan for Trump's singular approach to economics, Bloomberg presents Trumponomics, a weekly podcast focused on the Trump administration's economic policies and plans. Editorial head of government and economics Stephanie Flanders will be joined each week by reporters in Washington D.C. and Wall Street to examine how Trump's policies are shaping the global economy and what on earth is going to happen next.

Who will win the trade war, and how? If the job market is so strong, why does your paycheck seem so meager? What will drive the economy of the future? Stephanomics, a podcast hosted by Bloomberg Economics head Stephanie Flanders, will take listeners on location each week to answer questions like these and bring the global economy to life.

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Bonus: Cathie Wood Says the Trump Era Is Reviving Corporate Risk Appetite

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A Gallup poll reported last year that just 15% of Americans said they had a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in big business, a record low. Since then, fear of artificial intelligence has made matters worse. So why is big business increasingly unpopular in Donald Trump's America? What does it tell us about the state of the nation and the long-term strength of the world's largest economy? 

On this week's Trumponomics, host Stephanie Flanders explores those questions with Bloomberg Opinion global business columnist Adrian Wooldridge. He says the root of this malaise may be a US corporate culture that's shifted from genuine risk-taking entrepreneurship toward a mix of oligarchic tech elites and bloated bureaucracies, fueled by market concentration and declining competition. Later, Flanders and Wooldridge explore whether AI will in turn disrupt these dominant firms or further entrench their power — and what the backlash against tech could mean for politics, capitalism and American democracy.

A Gallup poll reported last year that just 15% of Americans said they had a great deal or quite a lot of confidence in big business, a record low. Since then, fear of artificial intelligence has made matters worse. So why is big business increasingly unpopular in Donald Trump's America? What does it tell us about the state of the nation and the long-term strength of the world's largest economy? On this week's Trumponomics, host Stephanie Flanders explores those questions with Bloomberg Opinion global business columnist Adrian Wooldridge. He says the root of this malaise may be a US corporate culture that's shifted from genuine risk-taking entrepreneurship toward a mix of oligarchic tech elites and bloated bureaucracies, fueled by market concentration and declining competition. Later, Flanders and Wooldridge explore whether AI will in turn disrupt these dominant firms or further entrench their power &mdash; and what the backlash against tech could mean for politics, capitalism and American democracy.

Why Is America Turning Against Big Business?

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Across developed markets, bond markets are staging a slow-motion car wreck. As Opinion columnist and senior markets editor John Authers puts it, the phenomenon is truly global. Authers and Robin J. Brooks, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and former chief economist at the Institute of International Finance, join host Stephanie Flanders to explain why investors have turned sharply against government bonds across the world’s major developed economies — and how the fallout could affect us all.

Read John Authers's column here: 
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2026-05-19/the-great-bond-car-wreck-in-slow-motion

And find Robin J. Brooks's substack here: 
https://robinjbrooks.substack.com/p/liz-truss-bond-market-blow-ups

Across developed markets, bond markets are staging a slow-motion car wreck. As Opinion columnist and senior markets editor John Authers puts it, the phenomenon is truly global. Authers and Robin J. Brooks, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and former chief economist at the Institute of International Finance, join host Stephanie Flanders to explain why investors have turned sharply against government bonds across the world&rsquo;s major developed economies &mdash; and how the fallout could affect us all. Read John Authers's column here:&nbsp; <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2026-05-19/the-great-bond-car-wreck-in-slow-motion">https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2026-05-19/the-great-bond-car-wreck-in-slow-motion</a> And find Robin J. Brooks's substack here:&nbsp; https://robinjbrooks.substack.com/p/liz-truss-bond-market-blow-ups

The Great Bond Car Wreck — in Slow Motion

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Sebastian Mallaby of the Council on Foreign Relations and author of The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind and the Quest for Superintelligence joins host Stephanie Flanders. He says Chinese AI is closing the gap—and that means Washington can’t afford to ignore safety talks.

Sebastian Mallaby of the Council on Foreign Relations and author of&nbsp;The Infinity Machine: Demis Hassabis, DeepMind and the Quest for Superintelligence&nbsp;joins host Stephanie Flanders. He says Chinese AI is closing the gap&mdash;and that means Washington can&rsquo;t afford to ignore safety talks.

Why the US Must Engage China on AI Safety Before It’s ‘Game Over’ 

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Bonus: Cathie Wood Says the Trump Era Is Reviving Corporate Risk Appetite

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