This episode was recorded live at Web Summit Qatar in February 2026. From a basement in the early days of podcasting to one of iHeart’s marquee shows, Matt Frederick has seen just about everything — including, apparently, the road to Area 51. In this episode of our Podcasters-on-Podcasters series, Jordan Runtagh and Matt talk about the origin of Stuff They Don’t Want You to Know, how great co-host chemistry really works, why listeners feel so deeply connected to podcasts, and how one strange-news story can spiral into a full-blown research obsession. Toss in some Tesla, some UFO lore, some Bob Lazar, a cameo from Tom DeLonge, and more X-Files energy than is probably medically recommended, and you’ve got an episode that’s smart, funny, and just conspiratorial enough to keep things interesting.