How do you handle the judgment of the world when striving for a devout life? Deacon Nathan Biersdorfer joins Annie Mitchell on the Son Rise Morning Show to continue exploring St. Francis de Sales' Introduction to the Devout Life. Drawing on his real-life experience as a beekeeper, Deacon Nathan unpacks Salesian wisdom on why the world judges believers harshly, why we must feed on the "spiritual honey" left by saints before us, and how to distinguish between enduring temptation and actually committing a sin. Listen now!

How do you handle the judgment of the world when striving for a devout life? Deacon Nathan Biersdorfer joins Annie Mitchell on the Son Rise Morning Show to continue exploring St. Francis de Sales' Introduction to the Devout Life. Drawing on his real-life experience as a beekeeper, Deacon Nathan unpacks Salesian wisdom on why the world judges believers harshly, why we must feed on the "spiritual honey" left by saints before us, and how to distinguish between enduring temptation and actually committing a sin. Listen now!

Son Rise Morning Show The Son Rise Morning Show with Anna Mitchell and Matt Swaim is fast-paced, motivating and informational – always from the Catholic perspective. You’ll hear news, engaging interviews, prayer and more each weekday morning from 6am-8am ET. 

Son Rise Morning Show The Son Rise Morning Show with Anna Mitchell and Matt Swaim is fast-paced, motivating and informational – always from the Catholic perspective. You’ll hear news, engaging interviews, prayer and more each weekday morning from 6am-8am ET. <a href="https://www.ewtn.com/radio/podcasts/son-rise-morning-show-~NZ"></a>

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Son Rise Morning Show 2026

Worldly Wisdom & the Beehive: Deacon Nathan Biersdorfer on St. Francis de Sales

What is the Gospel, really? Is it just a four-step plan, or is it something infinitely greater? Catholic Answers Live host Cy Kellett joins Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to unpack insights from his book, Teacher of Strange Things. Cy and Matt dive into how Luke's Gospel and the early Church proclaimed the "good news"—not as a legalistic formula, but as the cosmic revelation of Jesus Christ as King, the surprising humility of God, and the arrival of His Kingdom on earth. Stream the interview now!

What is the Gospel, really? Is it just a four-step plan, or is it something infinitely greater? Catholic Answers Live host Cy Kellett joins Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to unpack insights from his book, Teacher of Strange Things. Cy and Matt dive into how Luke's Gospel and the early Church proclaimed the "good news"&mdash;not as a legalistic formula, but as the cosmic revelation of Jesus Christ as King, the surprising humility of God, and the arrival of His Kingdom on earth. Stream the interview now!

Teacher of Strange Things: Cy Kellett on What the "Gospel" Really Means

Why does the modern world view mature Christians as "fools"—and how is the world itself stuck in a state of spiritual immaturity? Jesuit Father John Gavin joins host Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to conclude the series on his book, Growing into God: The Fathers of the Church on Christian Maturity. Fr. Gavin explains how the rejection of God mirrors demonic rebellion, why C.S. Lewis’s novel That Hideous Strength prophetically anticipated modern cultural confusion, and how Christians can cultivate true childlike receptivity without falling into childish sentimentality. Stream the full interview now!

Why does the modern world view mature Christians as "fools"&mdash;and how is the world itself stuck in a state of spiritual immaturity? Jesuit Father John Gavin joins host Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to conclude the series on his book, Growing into God: The Fathers of the Church on Christian Maturity. Fr. Gavin explains how the rejection of God mirrors demonic rebellion, why C.S. Lewis&rsquo;s novel That Hideous Strength prophetically anticipated modern cultural confusion, and how Christians can cultivate true childlike receptivity without falling into childish sentimentality. Stream the full interview now!

True Maturity vs. Worldly Immaturity: Fr. John Gavin on Growing into God

How did early Christians teach and pass on the faith before modern schools or the Catechism existed? Patristics scholar Mike Aquilina joins host Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to explore the origins of Christian education. From dynamic classroom lectures in Alexandria to early forms of homeschooling and play-based learning described by St. Jerome, Mike breaks down how the Church Fathers integrated faith, reason, and courageous witness to form the bedrock of Catholic education today. Stream the interview now!

How did early Christians teach and pass on the faith before modern schools or the Catechism existed? Patristics scholar Mike Aquilina joins host Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to explore the origins of Christian education. From dynamic classroom lectures in Alexandria to early forms of homeschooling and play-based learning described by St. Jerome, Mike breaks down how the Church Fathers integrated faith, reason, and courageous witness to form the bedrock of Catholic education today. Stream the interview now!

Worldly Wisdom & the Beehive: Deacon Nathan Biersdorfer on St. Francis de Sales

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