Why does the modern world view mature Christians as "fools"—and how is the world itself stuck in a state of spiritual immaturity? Jesuit Father John Gavin joins host Matt Swaim on the Son Rise Morning Show to conclude the series on his book, Growing into God: The Fathers of the Church on Christian Maturity. Fr. Gavin explains how the rejection of God mirrors demonic rebellion, why C.S. Lewis’s novel That Hideous Strength prophetically anticipated modern cultural confusion, and how Christians can cultivate true childlike receptivity without falling into childish sentimentality. Stream the full interview now!