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This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.
Welcome back. I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and this is the start of our number two of the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network. And that means it's Friday, and it's mock draft Friday.
Man, let's do it.
Yeah, let's use the PFF dot com mock drafter today and I'm gonna start the simulation.
Let's say the team looks exactly like it does today plus Aaron Rodgers.
Okay, all right, all right, So we are up here now at twenty one. We have three trade offers. The earliest one is the Eagles, so we could potentially get a second round pickback for that.
Yeah, I'd be interested in that.
Uh, but Kenneth Grant is available.
Okay, what other d tackles are on the board.
I'm guessing if Grant's available, they're all available.
By the way, today was his pro day and looked like he did quite well from the thing that I saw. I retweeted, and Mike Tomlin and no more Coln weren't there. It doesn't mean they can't draft him, by the way, for I'm sure they had some representative there.
Well, we know where Mike Tomlin was a.
Right chatting with maybe the next quarterback.
Grant there, Nolan there, Harmon there, Darius Alexander there.
I don't look at Alexander quite in the same light as those other ones. But you know, if you're trading down, he wouldn't be a bad consolation prize. I'd be interested in trade down. Grant would be my pick if he's sitting there.
My guess is that that's why the Eagles want to come up. Potentially, probably that's worth getting a second round pick for you.
What else is on the board?
Josh Simmons, Eggbica, Calvin Banks, Matthew Golden, Walter Nolan a, Marion Hampton, Colston Loveland, He's abled, Derek Carmen, Nick Scurton, Darius Alexander, not.
A ton that I'm super excited about.
Again, let's let's stick and pick, Okay, just to show what this looks like without without having the second round pick.
Grant.
So Grant is the pick? Yeah, you know we're not. Now the question is do we want to try to trade back up from eighty three to potentially get into the second round.
Hard to do, but I don't know. I mean, I have to trade future picks, right, you know, and.
We don't have the comp picture, right, we can trade our regular round picks knowing that we're going to get a compick.
The thing is as a rule of thumb, like if you're offering next year's third, that basically gets you a fourth this year. Like I'm not giving up next year's first to get a second this year. No, of course, And I don't really want to give up next your second period, you know. So that type of deal is next year's third and your third, get back at two, and then you'll have a three, you know what I mean. Like you're gonna get a compic, but you're you're moving I mean, he won three this year, right, but you're moving up to get the player that you right desire. All Right, the pick hasn't been made, all right, I'm gonna pause here.
We're down to the end of the first round. I'm gonna resume here. Shador Sanders just went in thirty four. By the way, in this round, he didn't even make the list of guys best available.
We're gonna keep her one here. We know he was going to be off the board there at some point we weren't taking him. I just don't know who I trade up for. I mean, if you already have a D lineman in the books, I probably would not trade up for D lineman number two with future picks. Someone like Hampton would really have to fall the Ohio State backs. But I don't know that. It's the worst team build ever to have a third or fourth round running back as the first back taken.
Yeah, Hampton has gone. We're pick forty three and there's only been two running backs selected. I'm gonna resume.
I mean, I don't think Judkins is going to get to our third round.
Now we're pick forty nine and only two running backs have been taken.
Okay, what's our pick in round three eighty three? Yeah, it's a long waiting, a long waiting. That's against it's going to costly second year.
Yeah, I'm going to resume. We're within twenty picks. Now, last pick of they were pick sixty four, So this is the last pick of the second round.
Okay, so we have two rounds in the book.
Caleb Johnson has gone, so I'm assuming.
I mean if the Io State.
Judkins is gone, went to the Bengals. That's I don't think that, but everybody else, So those two are gone. Henderson Henderson is still available.
I think he's way better than the rest.
There's this idea that he's a small back.
It's kind of like the Warren conversation.
And pounds at the combine. Yeah, yeah, that's not a small He's not one hundred and ninety five pounds.
He doesn't get knocked down easily either. Yeah.
I'm going to resume here.
Yeah, I have a hard time trading up for running back.
We are now at seventy four. Jaylen Noel just went, Josh Farmer went, Scatibow is gone. Travon Henderson was the Eagles pick at sixty four. Oh okay, So Anderson is Scatabow are now gone. Okay, Now we're not trading up. No, I'm just spiking at eighty two. The Seahawks just took Jalen Milroe.
Interesting, it would have been a consideration around three for four.
All right, So Terrence Ferguson tight end out of Oregon, Vernon Broughton. We haven't talked a lot about Vernon Broughton from Texas six four, three hundred and five pounds defensive end. He's a three to four defensive end. That's what he is.
No, he's not a bad prospect. Yeah, it seems a little early for him, but it took.
Elijah Roberts, the ed rusher out of SMU, Jared Wilson, the center out of Georgia.
R J.
Harvey running back out of UCF, Jonas s Ivenia tackle out of Arizona. DJ Giddons, half back out of k State, Jalen Royals, wide receiver from Utah State. Wyatt millm offensive tackle from West Virginia. Is their position you want to look at here?
Giddins is attractive to me. I don't think this is too early to take.
I like Harvey too.
I like both of those guys. What if you sorted just by running backs? Who are the top five.
Or Harvey Giddons, Devin Neil from Kansas, Damian Martinez from Florida Miami, I should say Jayden Blue from Texas, Bachhelle Tuton from Virginia Tech, Rashard Smith from SMU.
I liked all those guys except for Smith, and I think they're too small. Yeah, but I would take any of those and I bet one of them is there around from now.
Well, we don't pick again until one twenty three.
Okay, what pick is this?
This is eighty three. We have forty picks in between.
How does that work?
What do you mean? How does that work? There's comp picks and between three.
Okay, yeah, okay, it's our normal fourth rounder. But it's a longer stretch. Gotcha right, that is a long stretch. There's not one of those backs.
I love though.
Any chance we could trade down here ten spots or.
We have four trade offers. Let me look at the defensive tackles available. Broughton, Diane Walker and esp Bles, Jamari Caldwell, JJ Pegas, Riley Mills, Simeon Barrow. Broughton is one of the few true four defensive end types still there.
He's I mean, he's standing out of that groups.
Guys. Guys are all like nose.
Tackles, right like, I like Caldwell, but I can't see thinking grand.
An callwell, now that's not gonna yeah that that doesn't the wide receiver would would you know? Jalen Royals is still there, saving On Williams is still there.
Okay, there were a couple of old Linemen I thought were interesting too. Tackle types millim.
And Milliam's a guard as a guard.
Probably Okay, No, it's not super exciting. I'm fine with Broughton. If you want to go down that road.
Cornerback you got Dorian Strong, Jacob Parris, Kobe Bryant, Mellow Dotson.
How about quarterbacks? I know Milroe went, but.
Will Howard, Riley Leonard. They still have Jackson Dart available. He can be available, Dylan Gabriel, Calu McCord, Tyler Shuck.
Yeah. I don't like Schucker, but Dard of a chance to be there late. I would say Broughton back of choice, or I would gladly trade down ten spots or so.
The Broncos are offering pick eighty five. That doesn't move us down that far. They're not going to give us much to make that move. The Rams are on the phone offering pick ninety.
That would be interesting. There's going to be a back there and or Broughton.
I want to get rid of our two pick a two twenty nine.
Okay, I think we can pick up a fifth rounder in the process or something.
We can get picked one twenty seven off of them.
I'm in on that.
They accepted it. Okay, we picked up a little something, all right. So we're now at ninety and Broughton is still there. We also now have two picks in the one twenties.
Okay, you want to do Broughton and keep our fingers crossed. A back, a suitable back is there? There's a lot of them.
There's a lot of them. I think Broughton's going to need to work on some hand placement things of that. But that's why you take it guys like that.
Yeah, he is he to play today? No, especially after drafting Grant.
Yeah. Uh So we're up at one twenty three and the best player available, me and Martinez, I'm in on that. Let's take him.
Yeah that.
Now we're up again at one twenty seven, and this would be perhaps a quarterback. Riley Leonard available, Dylan Gabriel available, Quin you Weres available, col McCord, Curtis Rourke.
I think Rourke's my favorite of the group. What's the tackle situation. It's probably a little late for project tackles.
Brandon Crenshaw, Dixon, Chase Lunt, as Johnny Cornelius, Logan Brown, Emery Jones.
I think Henry Jones and Lunt.
I think Lunt's a pure tat. I don't know Lunch.
I think he's a pure tackle.
Pure tackle. He's six' eight three oh. Five he's not going to ever kick in the guard for.
No, no he's your swing, guy. Right. Yeah i've been A jones fan every step of the way. Too.
Yeah we do that here. Though or let me take a look at the wide receivers and see you see what Say Tory, Horton Pat, Bryant Kobe, Hudson Kyle, Williams Isaac, Tesla.
Tesla, Williams bryants are all kind of.
ATTRACTIVE i kind of Like williams, here just because he's different than what you.
Have. Yeah, AGAIN i THINK i brought up earlier in the. WEEK i was asking interested In Deontae. JOHNSON i said, no BUT i would like his.
Style And Kyle williams is that, solid except he's. Bigger he's, bigger, Right, yeah let's do it all, Right Kyle.
Williams it isn't one twenty, seven and we got another pick coming at one fifty.
Six we still have one eighty. Five, okay top players, Available Dylan, gabriel Bay Sheelle Touton, benjamin you're a sec tight end out Of, Georgia jark West.
Hunter he even talked about. HIM i know that tight end's not high on the. List he's a he was a five star that went To. Stanford he's really, talented and he had some injury stuff and kind of got washed away At. Georgia this past, year people will check out his. HIGHLIGHTS i, mean, like IF i had to redo my sleeper tight, end it would definitely be.
Him jark West, hunter the running back out Of, Auburn Jake bringingstol tight end out Of, Clemson trevor atn running back out Of, Georgia colm, McCord quarterback out Of, syracuse r J oben As rusher at A Notre. Dame Jackson hawes is still, there the tight end out Of georgia Tech Upton.
Stout the name that actually stands out to. Me AND i don't know if we could do it Is tooton and we just Took. Martinez they couldn't be any more. DIFFERENT i just don't know you're gonna have four running backs on. It that's the, thing, RIGHT i, mean If gainwell didn't, Exist i'd like to take those, two you, know and kind Of Jamal Williams Aaron jones it you, KNOW i, MEAN i mean you could have four that Are.
When The packers did, that they didn't really have a return of running.
Back they took.
Three, yeah they were, like, hey we got room on our roster for all three of these. GUYS i don't know if The steelers are in that.
Situation i'm just saying he's my favorite prospect you've, mentioned you, know in a back You i'm fine with McCord or who there was another name there the tight. END i like to but it's probably a luxury. Pick any lineman of Interest.
Liman Logan brown is still, There Emery jones is still.
There. OH i like both those. Guys those are two of my favorite names in this. Neighborhood what's looking at?
You, WELL i think if you're going to take a, QUARTERBACK i think you got to do it. Now.
Yeah one more pick after, this yeah.
Yeah, Yeah well we had another pick at one eight. Five we've only.
Who's your favorite of the? Quarterbacks, well you know.
Who's still going to be? There because they're rankings are all goofed. Dump If Curtis, rourke IF i, KNEW i, like here's the problem With. Rorke he may not do a damn thing for you this year at, all, right right, Right and WHEN i say, That i'm talking he may not even be ready for training.
Camp yeah, yeah so.
Is he worth doing? That and just go off on your own and work out and.
We'll worry about the upside enough for, That, yeah to be a lifetime too or, whatever you, KNOW a three in a year from. NOW i, mean chances are one year from now he's still Behind.
Rudolph, YEAH i, mean because he's going to be basically a, rookie a.
Rookie like it's gonna take him a lot to beat Out. Rudolph, yeah let alone do something for. You, yeah we don't have that. INFORMATION i think you just take my. Cord, yeah, yeah, YEAH i know he's not super, mobile and people hate when you take. McCord a lot of it's because he threw a million picks Against, pitt, right but after that he was a really good. Folks.
Yeah, yeah, okay we're up here at one eighty. Five yess who's still?
There Emory. JONES i would jump on. That, yeah you, go he might be a, guard BUT i don't. Care he might be your starting guard next. Year, yeah, exactly that's my. Thought i'd start him out of tackle and see how it.
Goes, okay and we're, running and we're, running we're.
RUNNING i guess the rest of the draft has to. Finish, YEAH i don't hate. That it wasn't our best. ONE i, mean you remember d k that cass part of. It, yeah we say that every.
Time you, know we didn't trade back in the first. Round we Took Kenneth. Grant we did trade back in the third round a little bit and Took Vernon broughton M hm defensive lineman From, texas Got Damian. Martinez in round. Four we get that extra round four. Pick we Took Kyle, williams the wide receiver out Of Washington. State Got kyle, McCord quarterback out Of. Texas is our quote unquote developmental slash. Potential we'll, See, yeah we'll. See and then offensive Tackle Emory owns with our final pick at one eighty.
Five it kind of feels, like If grant doesn't, hit probably don't get a ton out of this, draft you, know compared to.
OTHERS i would be shocked If grant doesn't.
Hit i'm a, believer don't get me, wrong but it's a top heavy draft.
AND i Think martinez to, me is kind of be a. LOT i think he's being slept on a little.
Bit he's a nasty, dude and he's really only is that much different than, nausey to be honest with, you except he's.
Faster he's, faster, yeah.
And, tough get on the, ground you, know big. Bodied he could come in and do that role at at least eighty percent of what you got out of, nausea at least in my, Opinion he's a better zone, runner.
Right, no that's the. KEY i, MEAN i think he sees it better than.
NAUSEY i definitely think. So, NO i like that pick a, lot and he's quickly going up my list of potential.
Stealer AND i Think Emery jones could be a potential starter at guard for you down the. Road.
Yeah, Yeah Kyle williams is going to. Help he could be your receiver three this year or next. Yea could he beat Out austin Or wilson for that maybe maybe or a year from.
NOW i don't hate. It, Okay well there we. Go, yeah that's our latest mock draft. Here we use The Pro Football focus draft. Simulator he Is Matt. Williamson I'm, Dale, allie you're listening to The drive here on The Steelers Audio, Network and of course you can hear this show Every monday Through friday from four to six pm right here where you're listening, now or you can now download The steelers mobile app and get it. There you can also watch along on YouTube and give us a thumbs up they know a thumbs down, option but judging from the comments from yesterday's, show a lot of people want to give us a thumbs down because apparently.
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This this is The drive With Dale lolly And Matt williamson on your twenty four to seven home of The black And Gold Steelers Nation, radio.
And we are. Back I'm Dale. Lolli he is The Matt williamson And Matt tod McShay has come out with his mock draft two.
Point oh, yeah, yeah.
From the McShay report and does good work.
There, yeah it's a new service and he's pumping out a lot of content right.
Now so let's run through his little mock. Draft. Here see what he. Has he has Cam ward going number one to The Tennessee.
Titans that's gonna be super.
Shocky, Sure Door sanders goes to The.
Browns, OKAY i Think steeler fans should be very happy about.
That, yeah The giants Take Travis, hunter cornerback wide receiver out Of colorado real.
Quick if you were The giants faced with that, situation would you Go Carter? Hunter? MEMBO i don't Take. HUNTER i THINK i would Take hunter. TOO i, mean they've been rumored to be. Shopping they've got edge, Rushers, yeah they've got a. Past, yeah and well the corners aren't bad and the receivers aren't. Bad but he two, things he's. Better, yeah he's. BETTER i Like hunter better Than.
Carter two at for The patriots and take Abdull.
Carter That that was the next THING i was, asked you would you Take carter if you're them over like A, membo that's a much bigger NEED i think you take the special. Player.
Yeah The jaguars Take Mason graham defensive tackle out To. Michigan this is where things kind of go awry with that. Whole, Yeah jaguars are kind of in no man's.
LAND i don't love it. RIGHT i might even Take membo IF i were, them just because linemen are hard to.
Find we'll look to trade back and see what you can do. There The raiders Take Ashton genty running back out Of Boise.
State do you think anyone would move to five to get ahead of them For? Genty you don't trade off for see that?
Happen and, yeah not in this. Draft The jets then take Armand membo offensive.
Line i'd be pretty happy for them character back tackles and. Yeah subsequent, years.
The Carolina panthers Take Jalen, walker the edge rusher out Of. Georgia. Sure The saints Take Tyler, warren tight end out Of Penn. STATE i can see that he's not going to make it to The steeler. Pace oh, no there's no.
Way i'm Sure loveland.
Does The bears at ten Take omari And hampton running back out Of North.
Carolina i'm not sure he's gonna be there at twenty one. Either, YEAH i don't think he. WILL i don't think he.
Will the forty nine ers at eleven take Johnd Ay, barron cornerback out Of.
Texas they've lost a lot and it's not hard to find needs on that. Team all of a, Sudden, yeah tackle all over their line.
Corner at, twelve The cowboys Take Matthew golden wide Receiver.
Texas they're another one that has a lot of. Needs but that would be THAT'S i actually mocked that the last TIME i did. ONE i think it's a good compliment To.
Lamb at, thirteen The dolphins Take Will, campbell offensive lineman out OF.
Lsu see for, them that's. Perfect, yeah that he might Be armsteed's, replacement but he's probably a guard somewhere on that.
Line he's gonna play somewhere in that. Line that line's, Bad, yeah it's. Bad The colts in take at Fourteen Colston, loveland the tight end out Of.
Michigan, okay he's really grown on me as prospects. Player he's a really good player and he gets. Open he had a really bad quarterback play last year. Too at, fifteen The falcons Take quick it's interesting if you watch him last year with the bad quarterback, play, well he has to adjust to a lot of bad, balls so you see. It get to scout him a little.
Differently, yeah you know he'll get some bad balls With Anthony Richard. Daniel you might get used to, that. Right at, fifteen The falcons Take Mike, greene the, addresser out Of. Marshall. Yeah, sixteen The cardinals Take Jihad, campbell linebacker out Of. Alabama their needs are starting to fill in pretty. WELL i, MEAN i still think that'll be. Defense but could they Take.
Ted McMillon or another old. Lineman but, MAN i like The campbell.
Fit at, seventeen The bengals take Mikel. Williams That's, georgia a Very bengals. PICK i, mean he's, big, traitzy so so. Production, yeah edge is bad for. Them he didn't have a.
Great pro day.
Either, yeah low four Seven's i'd like to see higher than.
That thought wout him be in a freak and he's on as freaky as you.
Think at, eighteen The seahawks Take Nick amuwari safety out Of South, carolina.
And todd's logic for that was he would be The Ravens hamilton version for, them WHICH i totally. Understand wild card, guy you. Know at, Nineteen, yeah this is kind of.
Fun The giants trade, up giving up picks thirty four and sixty five and a twenty twenty six third rounder to The buccaneers for picks nineteen to come up and Get jackson dart.
Yep And todd basically said they do it to get ahead The. Steelers, yeah, right, right right, Right And rogers is in the mix at this, point but that was the goal here was get ahead Of pittsburgh to Get Dark, yeah WHICH i kind of hope. Happens fine at the bone at the end of this he does a bonus pick for The. Box, yeah and they end up with a pretty similar. Player that's just how this draft, is you.
Know at twenty The broncos Take Trayvon, henderson running back out Of Ohio state.
Thoroughly But hampton's. Gone peyton certainly understands the value of like protection and things of the little things That henderson. Does. WELL i wouldn't have Considered henderson at twenty one for The, steelers BUT i could see why The broncos.
Would, yeah, right you, know that brings us to pick twenty, one.
WHICH i think we would both Think. GRANT i can't remember who he even took, here AND i did read.
This at twenty, one he Takes Derek harmon Over Kenneth.
Grant fair, enough but it's the.
Same would not be WHAT i would.
Do, NO i Like grant, BETTER i Like nolan, better but it's the right church different. Pew.
Yeah at twenty, two The chargers Take donovan ezeriku edge rusher out Of Boston. COLLEGE i can't imagine if this for this scenario they wouldn't Take.
Grant maybe. NOT i think it's a bigger. NEED i was just thinking of their edge guys. THOUGH i Think max only on a one year. Deal two the Top LOPO i kill his name is a pretty good player though.
Opposite, yeah but you get the Whole carbaugh connection there with.
With that's WHAT i. MEAN i think the edges is, big a need is and.
You can Get edges deeper into this, draft and, okay you just Let bosa walk because you think the two he is ready to.
GO i, mean, frankly i'd be interested in like McMillan here.
Too, yeah you know that would be the other, thing, Right like teed McMillan is still.
THERE i don't Think Mike williams is the number two right.
Now at twenty, three The packers take Will johnson cornerback out Of.
MICHIGAN i was listening To todd thinking that he's not. Sold johnson's going to go, real real. High but their pro day was. TODAY i have no idea What johnson, did.
So to be, fair he's not supposed to run at the pro. Day, really he's still recovering from a. Hamstring he's gonna run closer to the.
Draft, okay was he your corner? One he was. MINE i didn't Put hunter in the mix.
THOUGH i Had hunter at. ONE i Had joddy baron. Two he's, Three, OKAY i had him one baron. Two at twenty, four The vikings Take Malachi starks safety out Of.
GEORGIA i like safety for. THEM i Mean Harrison smith kind of he's a, legend but he's hold on to a thread to go one more, year succession plan to be. Great you, know it's kind Of Cam hayward, move you.
Know at twenty, five The texans Take Calvin, banks junior offensive tackle From. Texas.
YEAH i think it's almost BEST o line.
Available twenty, six The rams Take Maxwell harston cornerback out Of.
Kentucky that's actually WHERE i had him go, to and corners not great for. Them they did bring Back.
Witherspoon at twenty, seven The ravens Take ted McMillan wide receiver From.
Arizona that could be just too good to be, true shouldn't fall this far type of. PICK i don't think it's their biggest.
Need at twenty, eight The lions Take Shamar stewart edge rusher out Of TEXAS a and m pretty late for.
HIM i bet he goes well before.
That at twenty, nine The commanders Get azeri A thomas cornerback out OF.
Fsu i've seen them mock corner a, lot but they did trade For. LATTIMORE i MEAN i know that Bump santa stro. Inside, yeah it makes.
It ARE i mean he's a five nine cornerback who's a really good.
Slot the thing Is banks was so. Bad, yeah the Real, forbes Not.
Banks at, thirty The bills Take kenneth's.
Grant he's being linked there a. Lot that's what they.
Need it's what they. NEED i think some. PEOPLE i think people are looking at how CAN i Make Kenneth grant a. Bill If i'm The, STEELERS i don't let him get. BY i just don't.
KNOW i don't, either, Right he's definitely priority number one for both of.
Us apparently at thirty one The chiefs Take Gray's.
Abel they should be thrilled with. THAT i, mean he could in a, pinch could help you, tackle but he's probably he's your. Thuny, yeah he's a very similar. Prospect and at.
Thirty two The eagles Take James, pierce junior edge rusher out Of.
Tennessee, okay they don't need a ton of snaps out of. Him he's not a big snap. Earner graham's. Gone sure, again there was A i think there's A tampa pick at the end of it.
Too Uh, Yeah tampa picking at thirty, four Takes Trey amos cornerback.
Out Of, ole Miss.
YEAH i mean a lot of. Cornerbacks, yeah a lot of. Corners and when The steelers pick was, up it was five in the first. Round there were only two, taken.
Including Will johnson still being, available.
And the cornerback run really started After. Yeah, yeah The steelers, packybe that's a. TRADE i could see somebody wanting to trade if in this, scenario If Will johnson is there at twenty, ONE i could see somebody wanting to move up to get.
Him, yeah, yeah AND i would mind trading out Of Will.
Johnson, yeah like the you, know do The packers look at it and, go, well we can move up two, spots maybe give up our third To pittsburgh.
Just a short little. Move, yeah that adds up to. Me that absolutely adds up to. Me so weird QUESTION i. WAS i was asked this, before like in this case it. Changed but all thirty two teams have their first round. PICK i don't think that all thirty two teams will make the first.
Round on this. One they.
Didn't they, didn't, Right, YEAH i that's originally HOW i was. Asked BUT i do think there's more than a fifty percent chance that the second the draft, starts all thirty two teams have their first round. Pick yeah, YEAH i, MEAN i don't know if anything will happen between, now.
Because it has happened. Here the big trade up was for a, quarterback for the quarterback right to move into the first. ROUND i don't think anybody else is necessarily moving into the first round unless it's for a.
QUARTERBACK i mean that's in real, time that's not you don't prepare for. That LIKE i was shocked when The texans. Trade it was like this time of year when The texans traded their first round, Pick like that doesn't happen very. Often, YEAH i bet when this draft, starts all thirty two will have their thirty their.
Pick but you, KNOW i could, see for, example The packers wanting to move up if they're they're gonna go get a cornerback And Will johnson is still, THERE i could see them wanting to move.
Up he's definitely a target to.
Me could THE ram?
Targets?
Yeah could The rams want to try to move up of Taking Max. Maxwell harrison's a fine. Player Will johnson's, better different. World, yeah it's bigger to play him Opposite. Stingley yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you, know same. Thing who else The commanders at twenty Nine?
Rams The commanders are aggressive organizations. Too that corner could be the thing that somebody comes to.
Get and there's. All there was also only one wide receiver.
And McMillan going for mc.
Millon, no, McMillan, oh we're still. There when The steelers, Picked like if somebody wanted to come. Away we got to go get you, know this guy's.
Good, yeah, yeah, no that adds up TO i, mean, SEE i bet there's varied opinions on. Him but if Maybe washington wants them put him in the opposite, McLaurin and you, KNOW i mean that's a good fit to me move up eight spots to get. Them it's.
Possible, yeah, Yeah SO i do think that The steelers will get some fun in this. Scenario, again he did went through this yesterday AND i said the same. THING i think in the way that this works, out if the top of the or at the top of the draft goes as it, did you could see a. TEAM i could see The texans wanting to move up for an offensive.
Tackle, YEAH i would, SAY i still think tackles are going too late across the board in. Mocks, yeah you, know.
Just because you can't make sure we get the guy that we.
Want and you, KNOW i, mean it wouldn't shock me If simmons And connery are gone by the time The steelers, pick or one of them's, there and that's.
The, talk in which case somebody's getting pushed.
Down, yeah, yeah, YEAH i just if you're a tackle needy. Team it's desperate. Times.
Man there weren't many available in free, agency and there aren't many avail any.
Mis DRAFT i mean average left. Act you need him to? Start, yeah, yeah, yeah better go get, Them you better go get. Them and what? Day two tackles are you excited to? START i mean LIKE i might Put Ozzie trapillo in, there you know as a right. Tackle Was Rob havnstein part two type of. Guy, yeah a couple of, those but they're not. Gameged i'm not excited about. It my quarterback's not going to be super excited about. It, no no tackle to me is sort only a desirable spot to trade up.
For, yeah so we'll. SEE i think The, STEELERS i THINK i PICK a twenty one could be getting. VALUABLE i think they'll get. Calls now will they pull the? Trigger that's another.
QUESTION i might just run to the podium if grants there like we did in our. Market harmon better, TOO i, mean, OH i get your defensive. End he's got the arm length and all. That oh, yeah, yeah you, KNOW i Think nolan's really appealing still.
Too, yeah he didn't even go in the first round, now so we'll.
See it's always a lot to work with there with all those.
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Radio and we are. Back I'm DALE lolli he is The Matt williamson And Matt Pro Football focus has gotten a word of the breakdown on the Dk metcalf. Contract oh okay Or Pro Football TALK i should, say oh, Okay and here is WHAT i haven't seen this. Yet here's what it looks. Like so is it a three year or five, year one hundred and fifty million dollar deal which replaces the final year of his, contract which was eighteen. Million steelers gave him a signing bonus of thirty million.
Dollars, okay that's lower THAN i WOULD i.
Guessed so, basically when you look at it that, way it's six million dollars a year over the course of the. Contract that would be per, season, right, Ye like you're looking at how to breakdown the. Contract his twenty twenty five base salary is five, million.
Pretty.
Low so in, essence he counts on The steelers salary cap this year eleven.
Million, dollars and he was eighteen before, that, right, YEAH i mean of that was just, salary was eighteen before. That.
Right in twenty twenty, six he gets it's a twenty five million dollar base, salary fully. Guaranteed the base salaries are fully. Guaranteed he's the. Team he's still only thirty one million dollars next.
Year that's not.
Bad there'll be two or three more receivers in this offseason who probably signed.
Deals alone next free agency.
Period he does have a twenty twenty seven off season roster bonus of six point five million heading into twenty twenty, seven.
Which you hope he, gets, RIGHT i mean a kind of a catastrophe if.
He had his base salary in twenty twenty. Seven is twenty million? Dollars that? Bad so you take the six point five so it's it's.
About to be nothing by.
Then yeah thirty he's gonnaccount thirty three million dollars against your cap that.
Year, Okay so really twenty six is where it's a decent cap. Hit, yes he's worth that right.
Now twenty twenty, eight he gets an off season roster bonus of five million dollars and a base salary of twenty three million.
Dollars, again not, bad and that's WHAT I i would have guessed when the contract gets, expensive, like, yeah a five year, deal most guys don't see year four and.
Five and then in twenty twenty, nine his off season roster bonus is five million and his base salary is thirty point Five interesting to note that the salaries base salaries for twenty, seven twenty, eight and twenty nine are not fully. Guaranteed, okay the only two fully guaranteed base salaries.
Are for the next two. Seasons, yeah twenty, seventies which he's going to make the.
Team, yeah twenty seven's base salary is guaranteed for, injury and in twenty eight and twenty nine are not guaranteed at.
All that's not hard to get.
Out in, Essence, yeah in, essence it's like a really a three year, deal three year.
Deal and again there'd be a little dead money in year four and, five but that's not.
Much he's also only twenty, seventy, right, right it's not like he's.
That's a very team favorable. Deal, yeah, yeah and he might see every penny of, it which you. HOPE i mean that means is great.
Success it also gives them some wiggle room if they need to create cap space in the, future which they. Don't but you, know that's why you build those big base salaries right for years that you can you never.
Know what's going to. Happen you might have a quarterback by that or who, knows right, Right, okay that's very.
Palatable, yeah according to again this according To Pro Football, talk it's a guaranteed two, year sixty million dollar deal with the team team held options for the balance of the, contract which is kind of the way to look at.
It there's a lot of bonuses and that kind of.
Thing it's twenty six point five million and twenty seven the way to look At, yeah twenty eight million and twenty twenty eight and thirty five point five million in twenty, twenty twenty twenty, nine and.
The players, Going i'm guaranteed to get sixty million. Dollars, yeah it's pretty. Good yeah for a twenty seven year old. Receiver you, know after, THAT i probably will earn more But i'm guaranteed to get sixty, million and it's a minimal capit this.
Year if you look at it as just a four year, deal it's four, years one hundred and fourteen point five million. Dollars that's what he gets over the first four years of the. Deal that is well under the. Market, yeah, right that's not steep at. All that's what basically T higgins got less than. That, yeah right around that from From. Cincinnati, no it's not top of the market at. All, well that's, again that's very. Favorable And i'm sure people are, like, boy that's a ton of. Money you got to realize what the cap is right. Now what people are paying these top of the market player kind of funny money going around out there right now.
Is, insane. Right it's hard to keep up and kind of have a real. Feel that's why when you start talking about people ask all the, time you, know would you PAY.
Tj watt how are? Much? YEAH i, would right, right BECAUSE.
I would structure it that if he falls, off you right out of it and things like that. Too and they're really good about.
That.
YEAH i WISH i understood this, better BUT i do know that they structure their contracts a little. Differently every team's, different but they're an outlier AND i don't exactly know what, regard BUT i do know that they're one of the best teams with their ability to get out of a contract or to restructure a track if. Needed you can always just go to that, well you know the, way.
That's where the that's where the base salary comes into, play and that's where you, know the signing bonus comes into. Play how much guaranteed money is in that?
Deal, yeah, yeah, yeah because if it really what, matters.
Because IF i give you less guaranteed money, now but in this, instance the salary is fully. Guaranteed you, know you know you're going to get that, money.
Right BUT i always find it funny, too like this was a big deal When lamar was a free agent and shopping and all. That, well it's his salary is. Guaranteed i'm, like, yeah but he's going to make the. Team, yeah and he's going to be there all.
Year the only the only thing with with that is does he maybe not. Everything does he blows his knee out right?
Right? Right but at least for the next year or, so he's going to be a. Raven, yeah The mahomes deal that was a ten year. Deal that's the one who knows that's the complete. Outlier, yeah, yea, yeah yeah, Right but AND i don't know What Josh allen is signed in terms of, years but it's or. Something, yeah quarterbacks are. Different quarterbacks are different. TOO i mean it's almost like a.
Partnership but once a player reaches a certain, age now you're you, know that four or five year deal that he would have gotten for his second contract now becomes a three year.
Deal, yes, exactly that's the way to.
Look we don't want to be you, know we love, You we dj you're, great you're a foundational piece in this, team but you're gonna be playing when you're thirty, five.
Right, right that's at the same. Level and, yeah you're. RIGHT i Mean Cam heyward's not making top of.
This people were talking about the defensive, tax Like cam's what turned out to be his fourth, contract and it's LIKE i wouldn't pay. Him, well first of, all it's not your money.
And end up being a massive.
Bargain but people also were throwing the, salad, well he's gonna want more Than Dexter Lawren. Scott you don't know and he he took far less than.
That he's like ten years. Older, YEAH i mean that's not the. Same you have like A parson that is going to break the, bang, RIGHT i mean that's the guy that this will be his big. DEAL i mean it's coming into his, probably you, know but what And parsons aren't the, Same, No.
And so you, know what's the guy worth to your, team to your particular. Franchise and he, knows, like, yeah you, Know i'm SURE. Tj watt knows that if he goes out on the open. Market, yeah he's going to get. Paid somebody's going to give him. Money, sure but it's not going to be What parsons.
Gets oh, no, Absolutely and that's kind of forty plus million dollars a year Where garrett's kind of goofy Because garrett's watch age Getting parsons. Money you, Know, LIKE i don't think AND tj would have the right if he went to, SAY i want let's, start THEN i can get. Yeah, yeah, yeah if he comes to the table and says let's start with The garrett, contract we're the same draft, CLASS i would understand. It BUT i don't think that's the way that'll. GO i don't think he'd be a forty million dollar player if they if they would happen. Today, yeah there's always a, inflation but you build, it you build it like this and and, yeah, yeah you know even, this you know, again people look at that and, go, wow The steelers gave him one hundred and fifty million.
Dollars well not, really.
Not, yet not yet they have and he's, like he's going to show he can still play in Twenty in twenty twenty, nine bus yeah right, right you, know twenty twenty nine is he's due to make thirty five point five. MILLION i, mean if he can still, play they can get out of that deal pretty. EASILY i give him a twenty five percent chance of seeing that. Money that doesn't mean there's not a new contract between now and, then but twenty twenty nine is an eternity from. Now that's dog. Years yeah, right.
Like dog, years, man that's like ten years down the.
Line at that, point he's well into his. Thirties he made.
In twenty twenty. Nine so look at it this. Way in twenty twenty, nine how many Current steelers are still on the. Roster handful that are on this on the team, NOW i.
Mean even Like boswell's a. NO i, mean like kickers are always like an easy one if they last. Forever but he's a.
No he's thirty four years.
Old, NOW i mean you Hope Porter, BENTON i mean like first and second year, guys you, know outside of, that like Many, YEAH i mean there's not even a quarterback. There you're, like, well you're drafting this. Guy he's going to be here in four or five. Years it's a very small.
Number, YEAH i mean five years from, Now Cam hayward could be going into The hall Of fame for, god.
Right right, right he should be long. Gone, YEAH i, know no doubt about, it, RIGHT i mean you're, hoping and by that, measure you'd have had to Pay benton And porter of these guys are already done with their first.
Contract and what's the salary cap at that point is going to be the way it's gone up in recent. Years four hundred million, dollars.
So it'll be fifty million more than, now if not way, more, yeah way? More, Right, SO i mean it's it's all, relative it's. Structured, well let's put it. In. YEAH i was impressed how that, works because a bonus or two he may not see or that last he Might if he's playing well and he's, great that's, fantastic and everybody that means he's earning that. Money that's exactly. Right then everybody. Wins that's what you, want, yeah, right but it's hard to. Do, yeah so just.
INTERESTING i saw that last night And i'm, like that's a little note.
There everyone just sees five years thirty, million thirty million, everywhere, right, right there's only.
ONE i think there was only one year on there where he actually tops thirty million. DOLLARS i think it's an actual. MONEY i think next year is the biggest cap. Hit twenty six the last year of. IT i think twenty six he was more than a thirty million dollar. Caphit oh maybe yeah yeah with the. Bonus but you would hope that his age twenty eight, year that's that might be his best.
Season, yeah you're, hoping, Right.
And then he doesn't see that over thirty again until the last, year so.
Again right, right that's not. Bad, No, NO i mean that's a year you want to pay.
Him and the idea is to make a nice nest for whatever your future quarterback. Is AND Dk metcalf would be a big part of that.
Sure or even the current. One Would rogers be interested in The steelers if it's not for The metcalf, trade maybe. Not you, know it might be enough to be, like oh that's WHERE i want to.
Go, yeah so that's how that kind of works. There, yeah so, Well matt that that's kind of going to do it for another week, here good. Stuff, Yeah Pro.
Day's are around.
Theads we're starting to get some of the sign over the league.
Still you can.
Check out Our Triple take stuff over at salters dot. Com all the mock, drafts all the position, rankings sneers and, yeah we'll have all next week and then uh well basically a week from now we'll be getting ready to head To West Palm. Beach.
Yeah that'll be. FUN i mean it'll be fun just Because beach sounds like a blast and there's always a lot of news and a lot of high ranking. Officials the head, Coach Mike tomlin.
Talks it's the only time in the off season he talks until we get to the. Draft Omar khan is going to talk. Again Art rooney the second we'll talk. Again. Yeah, yeah we'll get kind of a state of the team kind of thing From omar coaches.
Are very prominent in, there and there's things that. Happen, yeah and we might have a quarterback to talk.
ABOUT i bet by then probably a good that might be what kind of kick starts this? Year Like, aaron we got we gotta talk in a week. Here let's let's get this whole.
Thing rolling, Here so all hands on that.
One answer twenty five questions about who our quarterback might.
Who knows could be sin could be a good step in the Right it.
Was a step in the right. Direction AS i said, Before it shows me That Aaron rodgers is no longer considering, retirement.
Yeah which is a big way of looking at it. Right, yeah and there's mutual. Interest.
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