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Snaps - Why SEC, Big Ten, ACC, and Big 12 Super League is GREAT for college football

Published Apr 4, 2024, 9:30 PM

Aaron Murray and T-Bob Hebert discuss the future of college football, and the rumor that there is a Super League being discussed that would combine the SEC, Big Ten, ACC, and Big 12. This would become its own league, separate from the NCAA, and would change the sport forever. The guys debate whether or not this would be good for college football, and where they envision the sport going. They then discuss Deion Sanders bringing in Warren Sapp as an assistant coach at Colorado, and debate whether Lincoln Riley can win a national championship at USC.

 

01:30 - Introduction

05:00 - Super League

33:30 - Warren Sapp to Colorado

55:30 - Big announcement for Snaps

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So we'll do the show today and then we get some news at the end of the show to start to get into as well, some big news.

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There is a story percolating in college athletics right now, and the Athletic has a very big piece on it, and it has to do with the future of college athletics, the proposed super League, the thing that we have talked about at nauseum on this show that everybody has talked about if you're in this business, appears to be one step closer as now there is an official group that is putting together an official kind of pitch here the old Mega Conference. Now, I think here's how I want to handle this, Aaron, because this is a bit of a dimp story. And by the way, y'all real quick hit the like button if you can shit the share if you really want to, that would be great. Uh and uh yeah, if you listen on pod rate and review. These are all very simple, easy ways which you can help grow the show.

But I'm going to explain.

Who is doing this, what is the proposal, and then we can get into barriers and how we feel about this. Okay, but right now there is a group calling themselves College Sports Tomorrow cst that it's a twenty person group. So this is the who is doing this, and it's a legitimate group. It includes several college presidents. It includes Brian Rollop, who's a name that I did not recognize and you probably don't recognize, but it's really one of the big swingers here. This is Roger Goodell's chief lieutenant and the number two executive in the NFL. Brian roll up is he is the mastermind behind the NFL's current one hundred and ten billion dollars that they have in TV deals.

The group also includes Sixers owner.

David Blitzer, and it's kind of all being led by this guy Lynn Perna, who is apparently the lead organizer for Turnkey ZRG, which all you need to know about Turnkey they're a search firm that places a lot of the conference commissioners, including Tony Batiti. They're the one that put Tony Battini in the big So the only reason I mentioned all these names is to say that, Okay, these are legitimate players.

Admittedly these also greek of people who want profit, you know, even they're out there trying to say that that's not like why they're in this.

But anyway, so that's the who no one's doing anything for free.

Let's just well no, yeah, yeah, I mean of course, right, like, no one's doing anything for free. But which is why it's kind of funny that they're sitting there trying to say like, oh no, this is about like the student athlete, to getting them.

What they deserve, and YadA YadA, and and and whatever.

Like you know, you can't serve two masters but I think the Bible says no, but you know, we do you you serve XM and volume.

Well I guess, actually no, I guess you can't actually.

But.

But yeah, they're so that that's who's doing it.

The proposal is a new system that would replace the NCAA and the College Football Playoff Committee.

Uh, it would be and and the proposal.

And this is why or this is the first step I think when they give you the elevator pitch as to how they are trying to get.

People to gree to it.

The proposal actually includes all one hundred and thirty just can use round numbers. It includes all one hundred and thirty current FBS teams. And within it, they'll have seventy programs, so your current Power five plus like Notre D, SMU, a couple others. You'll have seventy programs that would be permanent members of a super league. Essentially, they would be broken into seven ten team divisions. There would then be an additional eighth division of ten teams that would be made up of the rest of the fifty. Right, so the rest of the fifty would play for those ten spots to then play in the super League. So in that eighth division, you would get your relegation, your promotion, some of the stuff that we talked about, and then the playoffs would be there would be no selection committee. It would simply be the eight division winners and then eight wildcards, which would be decided by tiebreakers and whatnot. We can get into Barry's vent you will it work or whatnot? But Aaron, in terms of the setup, how do you feel about the seven permanent not going anywhere, ten team divisions and then the eight kind of epl relegation promotion thing.

Let me first say this, like I am all for blowing up college football and just hit the restart, are you?

I really am?

I've hinted at this for a year now, Like I am. I know there's the you know, poor old college football and we all want to go back to the BCS era and things were so much simpler back in the seventies, eighties, nineties, early two thousands, Like it doesn't work anymore. College football has evolved, it's different. We're not going backwards, So how do we go forwards? I think you blow the entire thing up. I think we do start from scratch and figure out what does college football look like starting in whenever, if it has to go through the length of the new deals with ESPN and Fox and you know, twenty thirty and whatever, just blow it up and start over. So I do like the idea that they're trying to move in that direction. I think there's too many teams. I think there's too many I would like more levels. You know me, I've said this before, like, I wouldn't mind even more like the Premier League of just two levels. So your A group and your B group here essentially what they're proposing. I think top forty eight teams, top forty eight teams makes Tier one, then you make it Tier two, you make it Tier three, make it Tier four, and you kind of work it from that. I know it gets a little bit more complicated. I know there's more moving parts and say, you know, the Premier League and all that stuff. But to me, I don't think there's seventy eighty teams worthy enough to be fighting for a playoff spot when it's all said and done. Like that would be the hard part for me to kind of swallow.

Well, I mean, look, at least though you have your seventy eight Okay, So the only thing that I kind of push back on a little bit with that is, at least this maintains some semblance of college football if we still have all of these teams, even though I don't know, once you break up conferences, then have we really lost.

The identity anyway? But then again, I don't know.

We live there.

We see conferences shattered left and right already.

So I don't know that I want quality. I want quality football.

Well, still a system that would produce quality football though, Yeah, now.

I I've been over this. How many you you have? You yourself and multiple times brought up the graphic of who truly matters to college football? And what There's twenty teams they get the most watches? Who watches? Yeah, it generates the revenue. It's twenty teams that generate the majority even less. But yeah, yeah, whatever, it's a small number. Yeah, so why do why do you want to add sixty more teams to it? That really we don't the nation has told us we don't care about those teams.

I mean, I guess, like it's not a completely unfair point, and I guess it gets weird in that if you have seven different divisions, like how many great teams are there?

Really the problem is.

If you have seven different divisions and then you have like seven dominant teams spread out in those divisions, well then you're just going to have like a lord, each ruling their little fiefdom, right like this, So like Alabama will always dominate their division, and Georgia will always dominate theirs, and you'll have Ohio State and there's and you can say, oh, we'll just put them together. Then okay, well then we're going to run in the old complaints of like wait a second, so this division has Alabama and Georgia and this one it's Ohio State Michigan.

But you're telling me fucking Oregon has like no one in theirs or something like that.

So like there's so I the divisions probably feel like there's a been too many of you want to do a true kind of mericratic, like eight division winners, eight wild cards. I don't think this is terribly realistic to begin with, Okay, I think that some of the barriers of entry here are they have some very powerful vested interests and voices that they're going to have to go toe to toe with, right like why would the CFP like the NCAA. They might be fucked regardless, Like apparently I didn't even know about this. One thing in the athletic article that's kind of born at the end or kind of bear at the end of it is that there is currently a class action lawsuit in Northern California right now, House fors in C double A in which the ncnaas ensued for nil revenue denied to athletes previous to twenty twenty one rule changes. Now, I don't know what you know.

I'm not a lawyer.

I don't know if that's gonna get passed or not. But it does mean that the NCAA could potentially be on the hook for billions. And even if it's not that they have a ton of lawsuits that they're staring down the barrel on. So there is this idea out there that the NCAA could be at risk of going bankrupt. And look if like so the nc DOUBLA its demise could happen with anything happened, without that much happening, But like, what about the college Football Playoff? They just organized a one billion dollar deal with ESPN one point three, Like you think they're just going to roll over and let this league happen and apparently that's why there's like already been leagues that have canceled meems with CST College Force Tomorrow as to not piss off their current broadcast partners like ESPN and like Fox. So I think I don't think this is it. I think the actual take on, but.

I think, but I think the discussion can be had with the College Football Playoff Committee. So I think that there is it has been discussed before, like okay, what what is best for college football? And I think what is best for college football is truly getting away from the NCAA and let the NCAA either just die off and be done, or the NCAA focus on the other sports. Where we do have an entity that does focus solely in college football. Well, what would that or who would that n entity be? Would it be this new group or would it just be the College Football Playoff Committee? And would they take a bigger, more full time role and while they expand too, like it's like there's nothing saying that like, Okay, this committee, this Playoff Committee that broker this deal with ESPN, that that that already has a a I would say pop positive possible men with the college football fan base could take this idea still and make it their own and kind of tweak it in a way they view best. So like, No, I don't want to say like, oh, just because this group made this idea and this group has no legs to stand on, that this idea is never going to happen.

No, that's no, no exactly.

So I think we're saying the same thing, and that I don't think CST is going to be it, because why would the CFP allow themselves to go away?

Why would the SEC and Big.

Ten allow these new power players to come in from the outside and essentially take over. No, I think it would be like the the I think it would be the big players getting together and doing something similar.

So I think the biggest point about this is simply that.

It is a proposal that represents everything that we've talked about, but there hasn't been anything really put out publicly on paper as to say here's potentially what it could look like. And look, when asked why they're doing it, it's exactly what you said the entire time. It's the only way to create rules, say quote, it's the only way to solve the problem, the only way to solve problem. Talking about that the problem that the NCAA is having with anti trust laws and it completed ability to enforce city rules.

This is quote the only way to solve the problem is to have a solution that is.

Legally defensible, politically acceptable, commercially prudent, and is able to strike a partnership with student athletes in a way that is really good for them. And that that quote is interesting to me because right now the n CUBA is not legally defensible if you look at local legislators and federal courts and what they've decided, uh well, and just how people talk about the NCAA, I would say they're not politically acceptable.

And in terms of.

Commercial prudence, I mean, look, the CFP has taken away like they don't even control football zone postseason. So yeah, it's it's it's trying to be everything that the NCAA currently is not. I don't think it's going to be CST. But again, this just kind of feels more and more like the Super League is inevitable rather than just some far off thing.

No, I think it is. I think we just we just saw the chat pop up something along the lines of the more money gets involved, the less it becomes about football, and I just want to disagree with that a little bit, because the NFL is all about money. I mean, the NFL generates absurds amounts of money. I mean we just saw the salary cup increase significantly for each team this year. For the players, I mean, we're seeing contracts through the roof every you know, start. It feels feels like almost every starting NFL quarterbacks making north of forty million dollars. The top guys are making north of fifty million dollars. It's like the money is a lot in the NFL. I don't think anyone's not watching football on Sunday.

It is different, though, Man, it is different.

It's like the NFL is so good as to be homogeneous, right, Like it's so good and incredible, and the football is such a high level and the margins are so razor thin that sometimes it can feel a bit antiseptic.

But once again, like if you cut the fat in college football, and if we do get to like I think.

Forty, yeah, but then you move to more, then you kind of move to more of that, which leads to more higher.

Quality football, quality football.

Yeah, but you do lose a little bit of the quirky nastiness.

I think there will always still be quirky nastiness because the fact that these are eighteen to twenty two year old individuals and not grown men playing, I think there always will be that. I think traditions, well maybe not the rivalries won't always be there, but I think traditions at each university will continue to be there. I think what makes college game day on campus successful will continue to remain. I just think the quality of football that you'll be able to consume and watch has the chance to get better. And that, to me, that's what I care about. A fan of football and someone who covers the game and wants to watch the football game. I don't want to watch blowouts. I don't want to watch Georgia versus Vanderbilt, you know, I want to watch Georgia versus Texas. I want to watch Alabama versus I don't know, Michigan, Like, I want to see the big boys playing like that's what drives the money, that's what drives the viewerships. Why are we so scared to move in that direction? Yeah?

I think it.

I think it, and and and no, and I get you right, because I'm someone who's been hardcore, like no cupcake games.

But I don't know.

Maybe it's the fact that you just have so many games on a Saturday that like, yeah, there may be Georgia being the fuck out of Andy, but then I can like hop over and like Maryland and Rutgers are randomly in some insane battle that you would.

You could still get that at a lower tier league, and that game would mean more than just two teams fighting to you know, to to to be seven and five or six and six to make some bowl game like that could be a game where two teams are actually tried to win their division to move up to another tier. That game means even more, which to me would bring even more eyeballs to the situation.

I got pg says, the alert lies within the possibility of nap stateum cety Michigan never really happens, but when it does, we're like, this is worth it again now.

Even that.

I kind of agree, because when it does happen, it's amazing. It happened so little and so much less and less that I don't think that we can make any like big decisions based off of that. It's kind of like how it felt about like when the NFL came out with the new kickoff rules the other day, and it's objectively an awesome rule. It creates action and plays where there was none. And some people were like, but what about surprise on sides And it's like, bro, there were fucking too surprise on sides. Like I don't care about surprise on sides, So like, yeah, when those upsts happened, they're amazing, but it's like whatever, I don't Yeah, I don't want to make a decision off of that. I like this roll paint to the NFL is Starbucks College Fable is a quirky coffee shop down the road with a peg goat. That is odd, but it has the best day and issue you've ever had. I mean, yeah, that's that's a pretty good metaphor there, And that's it's a little more bespoke, it's a little more local.

It' a little more nasty.

Granted, some days, maybe you're gonna walk in there and like they're gonna be out of something, or some machine's gonna be broken, you're not gonna be able to get what you want.

But someone just brought on the chat too.

It feels more personal. It feels more personal and the bottom of this is true.

This is true way that still won't go away because there will be some of it may but there will always be that connection, especially for those who went to the university that I'm I'm still going to support and cheer on my university. Like I still think game day feels very different and will always feel very different on a campus compared to an NFL site.

Well, but I mean, I don't know though, because we just don't live in the region in which the NFL sites are your college campus, Like, go to a Bills game about you that feels as crazy, if not crazier than any than anything you'll see in college. It's it's just like, I don't know. In Kansas City. Kansas City has like one of the craziest things in.

The entire unders and they're something different than a lot of these teams. Being on campus in the field, you get someone else in the chat that that, you know, why don't you just make college football the minor leagues essentially? And I do think the fact that we are getting these essentially right now before any of this craziness could potentially happen. The SEC and Big Ten kind of where they are, you can't tell me, like, those two leagues aren't essentially semi professional leagues.

They've been they've been minor leagues.

That's that's where the NFL right now, though even more now they are sure, But that's why the NFL. That's where the NFL. That's like one of the not that they did anything. So it's not genius, but it's one of the great benefits that the NFL's had working in their favor forever is they have a free minor league that they don't have to pay for, but there's a ton of money in it that naturally produces the best athletes. So yeah, like the secret of college football is that it's been a free minor league for the NFL forever.

But right now you have to deep where nfls. Where's the NFL going to continue to get their top tier talent because players are going to continue to funnel to the SEC and the Big Ten. They are like, why weren't you? That's where all the money is, That's where the nil opportunities are going to be, that's where most of the prime time games are. The top talent in college football and it's been going in this direction is going to continue to work its way to the SEC in the Big ten, which is essentially where the NFL is going to come to to take their players into the NFL Draft.

Again, I so okay on this proposal. I don't think it's going to happen. Like I'm with Aaron. I think the powers that already are in place will just do their own thing and and try to make that the deal. But looking at this proposal also, I hate that seventy teams. I don't mind the overall number. I'm done with you. Realistically, it probably has to land somewhere lower. But I hate this idea that seventy teams would be always in it and only ten teams of face relegation if they're gonna actually do the relegation promotioning. You can't have your cake, you need it too. You got a fucking nut up and the big names have to be willing to put the risk of relegation on the line. And I don't know exactly how you do that. Maybe the financial incentives are just so high that teams would be willing to accept it, or there's enough pressure from up top down to those lower teams that the lower teams can't help but get railroaded. In like in a voting situation. But yeah, look, Super League more than ever looking like it's gonna happen, even if it's maybe not. Brian Rolapp and David Blutzer and Lynn Perna that do it.

I love it. Blow it up, baby, blow up college football. Let's it restart.

I'm not so gung ho as you are, But then again, I'm also not as offended by the insanity of the transfer portal and everything right now. I find it all to be very funny and entertaining. That's what this is coming down to, Premier League, says William Anthony. Yeah, bro, yeah, sure, which which I mean again, I do like that. I think the I just don't think that people have ever agree to the risk like this is pussy shit. Like but if you could tell me, let's say you're Georgia post Kirby, you have a down year and all of a sudden you have to fucking beat Kentucky, uh to try to stay in the big leagues, Like you tell me that wouldn't have your balls and your throat from the eight like from the I'm the sun Rose and the Night Before the pit in your stomach. It actually gives so much juice to these lower level games that don't matter. And then you also get the feeling of okay, now you're a fan base where maybe you do get relegated, and then you got to re enter the climb and you get a new coach and he's got new juice, and all of a sudden you fight your way back up and it's like yeah, then you get to experience.

The the the fun of the climb.

Again.

For those who have not kind of experienced this whole relegation thing, go watch the Welcome to Wrexham series on FX with with Ryan Reynolds and them and really cool, just like the the because to me, I've had this conversation with your boy Hester, and I've had it with Chris Childers a bunch too, obviously they both love soccer. But does does European soccer not feel a little bit like college football and and and and kind of the the towns in which a lot of these teams are in and how it surrounds like like you talk about they all surround the university like Athens is all about, you know, Uga, and the same thing with Tuscaloosa and Auburn, like the university is it the football is it like that is what you live and die by and that's what European soccer is about too, So it is you do take ownership if your team gets regulated, like it's all about getting to that next level, and it's all about staying at the next level, and we're your way up the tears. So it's it's it's really fascinating. So I do I do recommend. Welcome to Wrexham is a good little insight to what those feelings are like in a town that is very similar to a college football town.

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Okay, it's a other college football dudes. Dion Sanders, So the pretty splashy hire there over there at Colorado.

Bringing in Warren Sap to be a ga, pretty big ga get you know, normally, normally your gas are just a player who just got done, is obsessive football and wants to get into coaching and is too willing to work for nothing. It's not often that they are thirteen years Super Bowl champion, Hall of famers, who have over ninety sacks to their name, who have been AP Defensive Player of the Year. How much you an impact do you think Sap has on this Errand as we get into kind of Colorado and expectations.

Well, I mean, we're the big issues last year for Colorado in the trenches, offense line, defensive line. I mean, I'm not like a personnel issue, or is that a personnel issue, But if you have one of the greatest defensi attacks of all time giving you little tidbits and how to be better to take your game to another level, I think it helps. It obviously helps recruiting, It helps keep Colorado in the news. It helps We talked about this last year when Dion got when he got up got the job at Colorado, who was going to be more excited to go on a visit to Boulder. The kids are the parents, and there was definitely gonna be a lot of excitement from a parent who grew up watching Dion Sanders play football to be able to go meet Dion with their kid. Well, guess what if I had a kid that was was you know, I'm from Tampa and I grew up watching Warren Sap. If if Maddox was old enough to go take a visit, I think it would be pretty damn cool to go to Colorado and go meet Warren Sap and go meet Dion Sanders. Would you not like so?

Like?

This is?

I mean?

I sorry, sorry, I loved him growing up. I feel like there's some I don't know what he's done post football. I think there's been some controversies at a time. I'm not speaking to any of that. When I was a little kid, I loved my golf Stott whichman's that. I fell in love with those Bucks teams, which led to me buying a Warren step Jersey Ida. Warren Sapp really nice like McFarlane toy like as a player, Yes, I'll never forget Warren Sap catching a touchdown and then doing the Beyonce booty jiggle in the end zone like he was one of the most fearsome, one of the most bad, as he was an incredible player.

Yes, I would. I would be starstruck if I met warrensapp to your.

Point, Yes, yes, remember the first time I met him as a kid being like, holy crap, why the hell am I playing football when there's human beings that look like this that want to kill me? So I think it continues to put Colorado Dion knows how to play the game man like he knows how to play the game well, doesn't headline?

Will they be good this year?

Your definition of good?

Will they make a Bowl?

Yes? I think they will, and I think I would. I would say that would be a good season. If Colorado can make a bowl game card and get the six and six seven and five seven six whatever with the bowl game, I would say that's a good year.

I mean in the Big Twelve, they with North Dakota State, which won't be easy.

Uh, then at Nebraska at Colorado State, great rematch from last year's insanity at home versus Balor at UCF home against Kansasity. That's a lot of losses so far. I mean, tell me where they're winning. Okay, let's give him North Kota State. Are they beating Nebraska?

Maybe? I mean, who knows what rail was gonna look like as a freshman. You're putting on your back eggs in a basket on a freshman.

Quarterback, which dumbass the answers now, actually actually sorry to be really fair to your point, like Shooter Santras Cursurola will be a massive advantage for colage passive advantage. It's in Nebraska, though, it's Nebraska.

I'm just saying, like, that's that's three. You can they can go three and o to start the season.

Okay, so let's even give the Nebraska wa in Colorado State? Okay, yeah, but then Bay Okay, yeah, Baylor kind of sucks too. Actually now yeah, maybe maybe right, But I don't I don't think they beat UCF. I don't think they beat Kansas State. I don't think they beat Arizona.

Arizona New Staff. They could beat Arizona. Why can't they beat Arizona?

They he beat Cincinnata, FA Fafita and U Tteroroe McMillan state at Arizona. If they had lost no Fafida McMillan, I would say yes, but with them in Arizona, I think that's gonna be a better team. Cincinnati at home, maybe Texas Tech.

Hmmm, a little tougher on the road.

No, Colorado ain't going to Lubbock in November winning. They're gonna be Then they got Utah. Utah beat that ass, Kansas will beat him, Oklahoma State will beat him. So yeah, six and six seems like that'd be a successful season, which is interesting because I believe Dean's a good coach. I believe Shuldar Sanders really good. If Shuldar Sanders.

Really is going to be maybe the number one quarterback taken next year, is six and six good enough?

I think? Is it good enough? I anticipate I see. I personally think they could be better than They have two of the best players in the conference. They have two potential top ten picks in the NFL Draft next year.

So they should be better than that.

They should be better than that. I think you're just you're you're giving them a lot of losses.

And they got approved no because last year, why they thought they were better and then they and then they cratered.

They like I man or go, I mean, they really got you know, the Colorado State game. They they unfortunate.

The hope is that Dion fixed a lot of the problems, especially on the offensive line. They went out there, that was emphasis. They got a bunch of big guys there to start up the portal season. If those guys are improvement and you give Shador more time where he's not on his back every other play, I think that's that's that's that's spills for a pretty damn good season. On the offense side of the football. Defense it's a whole other story. We'll see what happens on that side. But if you can protect Chadur and actually run the football you're talking about when the premier offenses in that conference.

I'm gonna I'm gonna do a deeper dive on that O line because everything I've I mean, they haven't recruited of high school at all.

Did they actually get impressive O line.

They did get impressive old line to the portal? Did they they did?

Huh?

I mean, if bra if Colorado could hit eight wins, I think that would be a massive success. If you can go from four and eight to eight and four and in the new Big twelve, that's more possible than I believe it was in last year's.

Package at the eight wigs deal.

I was not the coach of Colorado come next season. The following season, you still don't think that there's going to be any talk of like, well, he had Schader and he was awesome, Like what's he gonna do post Sad?

You can get you can get superstars at other schools.

In the well, so there will be an open Florida job.

So yes, anybody who does well next year immediately becomes a big Florida candidate. Emil says, do you do you actually expect that Colorado offense to be better without Sean Lewis?

I don't know.

I mean, did Shermer? Like did it wasn't Shermer the play caller by the end anyway, and the offense is still putting up number I.

Think as long as you haven't improved five guys up front, it's going to be an improved offense. I'm I'm a fan of Shader. I don't I don't know if I would say he's the number one quarterback right now in the draft next year, but I think he's top three. He's a top three quarterback in the NFL draft next year. He's a top fifteen pick. You should be able to win a lot of games with a tough fifteen pick if you can protect them.

Brodo Baggin says Carson Beck over Sanders one hundred mm hmm. Bo Mulliner says, four wins and Dion quits. I mean, let's be fair to Dion here. First off, all he's done is win as a coach, So four wins again would be uh surprising and the exception not the rule. Also, I don't know that he's given any reason to think that he would quit, right, I mean, especially because like he says, and I think him at face value here, I don't think he's in it for the money. I literally legitimately think he's in as a competitor because he wants to win. But I think he's in it for these young for these young cats. F says, what if Billy Napier wins the SEC? I will I will get castrated. If Billy Napier wins.

The SEC, you just can go like full ball, like just cut the hair off the beard. But you know you'd rather just.

I will, I will get castrated. I will I will live I will live stream, I will live stream. A doctor removing my nuts without anesthesia.

If Florida wins the SEC championship. Uh, that's how I am that that is not going to happen. Actually, that's.

Make it happen.

It's so scary to think about that, Like it's even hard to say out loud, but like, for being honest, like, that's how little of a chance Florida has. Uh this season, nobody clips this. Nobody clips that's every everybody. Everybody relaxed. Well, we'll look, we'll continue to talk Colorado and and in the offseason. All right, look, let's do this. We got to get into some news here because some chances. Now every Florida game, I'm gonna be like so terrified on the edge of what if Graham Merch just has like a Joe Burrow year and all of a sudden, the Gators are just rolling in every day.

My nuts.

Wilson's pretty damn good in the outside. They got some talent. Yeah, he has a boof See that's that's a little aggressive to put out there in the universe. But I'll not.

Travis Ntien just left and went to Georgia, which classic the Athens PD got him to Heathens Pod. Don't funk around. You're to talk about the most undefeated force in college football, it's the fucking Athens PD.

Oh you know what else? Is pretty because I'm currently in Athens and I'm going to yeah today for me before I show up on there? You know what else?

You know, it's pretty funny when Oh, by the way, dude, how about this? So We're all supposed to leave for Mexico and I'm like, okay, we got all our passports and asked them. I like the X ration Date's good. This is the night before we're supposed to leave, thirty minutes where I'm supposed to go to the church to play Thaddeus, one of the twelve Disciples in the Crucifixion play. And my fucking passport is expired and the family is leaving for Mexico in the morning. Immediately start just having a panic attack, basically freaking out. I'm so depressed. Everything I'm looking up online is like it's impossible. You cannot get a password of that past. You're screwed. Still went to the church, fulfilled my duty as Daddius. Turns out, fucking Judas never would have guessed it, got himself with a fat sack and desided to betray our boy.

But still it actually made me feel better doing that, that being around people.

But whatever, I was like, cause I'm sitting there and I'm like all sad, depress, and I'm like, well, it could be worse. I could have been crucified for doing nothing like that. That's that's a way shittier hand. But I was still pretty sad, right. But my wife, being the badass that she is, she got on it and she made me an appointment at the New Orleans Passport Office at seven thirty am Friday morning. So my family had to leave me. My family had to leave me. I dropped them all the airport. At five am Friday morning, I head over the passport office bringing all my documentation. You have to have proof that you're flying out within like forty eight hours.

You have to have proof.

Your passport has to be within a year of being expired. It can't be like five or six years e bro. I got there at seven thirty. I dropped my stuff off with some for a couple hours. I had a passport by noon. Passport in five fucking hours. So if you ever find yourself in a similar situation again, if your trips within like forty hours.

If you have a passport office by you, there is hope.

Just look, I had the same thing happened. This was right in the middle of the height of COVID. This is twenty twenty one. Sharon, I about like our first trip minus Mattox, who is less than a year old. So the night before I go to check in and it's my past won't let me check in because my passport's expired. So I go upstairs. She's trying on our bikinis. We're going to Turks and Canco. She's feeling good. I'm like love inspired. And this is like when like everything's closed, Like you have to make appointments way in advance. You can't just show up. So luckily I called some people, but like I showed up the next morning trying to get in. They won't let you in without an appointment, and the appointments are booked up for months in advance. Damn, we had to cancel our flight. Oh finally I got in same thing. Was able to get it a few hours later. But then the problem was you had to show roof of a COVID test within forty eight hours. Well, we took our COVID test four hours before, so that had expired it at that point. So then we had to pay five hundred bucks each to do a rapid you know why, one COVID test to be able to get that back in time to then submit that, to be able to get on the plane. It was a nightmamber. We made it.

We made a certain point. Just drive to Orange Beach or like Saint Simon's or something. Oh my god, dude, that is unreal. Emil says. The password office in the mall and Canal Street save me for when search and last year, that's what it was. That's the one.

And then somebody else said the password office in New Orleans is the final ring of hell, and again I would have thought that too, But it was actually a super pleasant experience. The security guy before it opened up was so kind. He basically did a stand up routine to put everybody at ease. The women can tell because everybody's so nervous in there because they all got such high stakes. Everybody just thinks they're gonna be fucked because we've all had like bad DMV experiences and everything, and everybody was super sweet and super awesome.

So I have nothing but positive things say by the passport office. You know what else?

I didn't vacation an entire suckling pig, little baby pig, which is funny to me because like I was thinking, like what if the roles were reversed and there were a bunch of pigs sitting at the table, and then it was just like my son Bobby just came out on the platter with I get.

It with like an apple in his mouth.

You know what I'm saying, Like, since if you're eating a suckling pig, you're eating a little baby, a little piglet, and you know it sucked.

It's like veal a little bit, yeah, but you know it sucked.

I didn't think the suckling pig tasted that good. It was okay, and I'm like, fuck man, I just hate this child. And it wasn't even that good. Like if I'm going to debase myself and eat a puppy or eat like a cute little baby piglet, and at least better knock my fucking socks off.

And it didn't.

So that's if you ever again next time you want to get a suckling pig. Just and it was expensive too, but once I saw it on the menu.

I had to have it. But just be careful, guys, Okay, just be careful. It's all I'm saying.

Isn't real Like when they put the it's like they keep a little baby deer like in the I'm sorry, baby cap sorry they keep, But don't they keep the baby calf like?

Also like in a cage, so like it's muscles don't develop, just go like reels.

You gotta be able to taste the torture, you know, otherwise it was my veal parm gonna hit. I need to know that this thing was truly abused and fed delicious grains while it was caged and unable to move.

Said, it's a little meat, stay tender.

Really riding for me?

Thank you?

Uh No, I I did not suckle a pig. J. D.

Mckelson climpses the chick Filay of college football. There's everything right, but refuses to do what's necessary.

You know, nil transfer portal, et cetera.

What obscure fast food restaurants remind you of college football teams? Oh yeah, I'll try to riff on this off the top of head. I almost would have put a pin in this maybe save for a bit later, so this could be an entire pit.

Also, I don't know if you're calling Chick fil A obscure.

I doubt it because you're probably from Georgia or Louisiana, Alabama. McDonald's just big brand the og og, I mean, like Ray Kroc is Bear Bryant. Yeah, in many ways kind of started it all. I would say that's accurate. Is Dairy Queen Texas A and M. I feel like they have their people that really fucking love Dairy Queen, but it's not that big at the end of the day. But they, you know, they try to get in those conversations of being the big dog. Is Zaxby's Auburn, you know, kind of that obviously below Chick fil A doesn't have the same kind of brand recognition, doesn't have the same love.

But yeah, good little brother, yeah, little brother energy. What would Kines be?

Something hip and cool? Ole Miss Lane Kiffin with Lane Kiffin's an ole Miss.

Bro Kaine's is way bigger than Ole Miss Kines has to be.

I mean, Todd Grave is the owner of Canes, is a billionaire time seven. He's worth seven billion dollars off of fucking chicken fingers. Now Ole Miss might be like Popeyes, just like Cocaine and hide speed, you know, and it might go off the rails a bit. It's it's not going to be a seamless experience, but you're gonna have some funnel I need.

But it needs to be like new new money type feel, not like the old school big brand. It's not it's not a blue blood. Kane's not a blue blood.

Yeah, you're right, You're right right, it is k Yeah, maybe Kanees is like Oregon. If Oregon ends up being as good as I like Oregon, Kanes could maybe be a little Oregon.

Would what would what would a Burger King equivalent be?

Ohio state kind of second to Alabama but basically like McDonald's in every way, but just can't quite ever catch McDonald's. Maybe every Now, Georgia what a burger I don't know. Now that seems to Texas based. I mean, George is not I think Piqual's metaphor is stronger. But in terms of timing and success, George is not unlike Chick fil A. Not only that they came together, but it's like they kind of you know, they both came late to the game faster game. But now they've they kind of ascended to the top.

No, I think I think I think the kail's right with Clemson. And but is it a Clemson thing or is it more of a dabbo thing? Like I don't think Clemson's the one saying that we don't.

It doesn't matter.

They are the coaches, they are the same. Who who?

The real question is who's Jack in the box? Who just is in you know, open twenty fourth?

Who is.

Menu is way too big? Yeah? Who's who's serving up?

Uh?

A little talk fried tacos that are cheaper than water. That that That's what I want to figure out. Who woul Jack in the box be?

This would be a fun segment that let's punder on this yeah, later on?

All right, So, uh, here is the news, guys. Next week will be snaps last week with the Volume, and there are no hard feelings whatsoever. But the Volume has chosen not to renew our contracts with them, and it's all but but again, I want to be clear about a couple of things here up front. I will forever remain grateful to concow Herd, Logan Swam, the Volume team and everybody who gave us uh this opportunity.

This opportunity changed my life and introduced me to.

A lot of.

New people.

I mean, me and Aaron had never met. Now consider Aaron a close friend. All you that we hang out in the audience with, everybody that tells me they like Snaps like it's it. It even got me like business opportunity that's never existed before. So I am nothing but thankful to everything. The Volume is done for us, but next week will be it for Snaps at the Volume. But I ain't go anywhere like Leo DiCaprio. Okay, uh, I'm not fucking leaving. Okay, Snaps ain't going anywhere. Thank you to the Volume. They're nice enough to give us the YouTube channel, give us the RSS feed.

We fucking in this bitch still, okay, and we're taking over.

So the reason why I bring this up is because there may be some production value slippage, right me.

Unless there's someone in the unless there's some Snappers out there that want to join the team to help out with some of the editing.

Well, first off, don't let Aaron don't do this help out bullshit.

We will pay any no, yeah, of course we'll pay Okay, Okay, I'm making sure I didn't know. I wanted to make sure that didn't sound like we're doing like who wants to be a free intern thing? Now?

If you want to be a no, no, I will pay you.

I kind of even though I did it, you know, I've done something that myself, I'm kind of like a bit like, I don't I don't love the.

Concept of free internships, right, but whatever.

The thing is, Uh yeah, so just I guess the only reason I'm saying this is because during the transition, me and Aaron got to figure out a lot of stuff technologically, of which I'm already so like, I feel pretty good about it, but there may be some awkwardness therein.

But show's going to continue.

As to plans, will we end up at another company, will it be completely independent? Only time will tell. But just no, Snaps ain't going anywhere. And uh, we can't wait for this football season and it's gonna be fucking awesome. And we're still going to stream EA College Sports twenty six and it comes out here in a few months, and we're still going to bring you all their favorite just generate conversations during the fall, and and you know, and now we're we can kind of just do whatever we want, so maybe we get even weirder at times.

Not that I do want to be clear by this, not like the Volume ever held us back from anything. If anything, they told us just lean into the weirdness and do whatever the hell we want. They were awesome.

No, and I want to echo you, like I I appreciate everything the Volume did. It's been an awesome two years. Really have helped us grow the Channel to where we are now. And like T said, the fact that we get to keep channel on the socials and everything that we've built is super awesome of them. And and I do feel like we've we've gained a lot of momentum, and we appreciate everyone who has joined us, you know, every day and built a really cool community. And listen, I'm bullish. I think next year, this football season coming up is gonna be absolutely incredible, and I think we have a chance, with our core community, the fifteen k that we've already built in less than a year, to really grow this thing. So I want to appreciate, you know, thanks to the Volume, and thanks everyone who has been with us. And we liked he said, we ain't going anywhere it's gonna be awesome twenty twenty four for snaps.

So yeah, and we do. We love you like the volume. Yes, y'all change my life for better.

And a huge thank you to Ryan Bromley who started as our executive producer. Pat Gunther ended up taking over and he pg's been nothing but incredible. Danny Cardinz and doing a lot of social media. The back end, our guy Chris Tran producing the show doing thumbnails every day.

Adam Gracia, it's I mean, especially especially.

Though really, I mean like.

Chris PG, Danny, it has been a lot and it was a lot of fun working together. So next week, still in the volume. After that your boys are solo, but there will still be shows, uninterrupted shows, so uh do not worry about that.

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