SNAPS With Aaron and T-BobSnaps - Texas looks poised to make it back to the CFB playoffs
Huh oh, okay, interesting, I didn't do I should talk into my mic. What's up, y'all? What's going on? T Bob? Here, we'll be to a brand get in here that Aaron is out today. Aaron's going to charity golf tournament, which we love to see. And I forgot to start with our countdown video. So here we are. We're live. As you can see. I am at home. The office that I normally do my work out of the internet was down. It's been a weird ass day, y'all. I've had a bit of a migraine. I don't normally get headaches like this. I don't know what happened. Something went down though, I don't know. I don't know. It's been a weird day. But I'm excited for today's show. Maybe a little bit of a quicker show today. A lot of craziness here going on in the home front. But we got Peter Burns stopping by in a couple of minutes and peeb uh Will. We're gonna break down a lot of the Texas spring game with Peter, which if you haven't seen it, well, I mean, look the spring games out with the watch. But I would say go hunt down. Go if you're into this, and if you're listening to snaps you likely are, Uh, go hunt down the God. I told you all my brain's how working today? What's going on? Oh? Go hunt down the arch Man in highlights of every throw that he made. He did, he did, he did fantastic. My Theoreum offer still stands. Team offs is college footle for I don't remember the Ethereum offer. Uh the popas tep you need help the backgrounds? No, really let me know. I I absolutely will, and I know Ben you've offered as well. Look into that. I I normally have a picture of the gold Shire in or lines pried End from Wow in the background, but I would not. It would not let me. Uh for some reason, it would not let me do it. Uh wait, wait, wait, okay, hold on, hold on though, hold on, hold on as I wait a little bit for Peb to get here. Let's try this. And I figured it out. It's not the Lions pried in, but maybe so coming up we'll see arch leaders shoot arch haters losing their shit, says Texas Rocks. Yeah yeah, I mean if you were on the arch manning's not actually that good. Uh, Bandwagon Yeah, you're you're having a bad day today after Saturday m bokinny. Isn't Peter Birds went until you show up on your own show. Yeah, I believe that was true as well one time. But hey, you know what, forgive and forget. Uh But yeah, look, here's what I'll say about Arch. I watched every thrilly major in spring. I did not watch the entire spring game, but I thought Arch Manning looked objectively really damn good. The number was a great It's it's like nineteen to twenty four so long, and I've adds like three fifty three touchdowns. Numbers are what they are, though they could have been even more impressive. He had a four touchdown. There was an absolute beautiful dart to Isaiah Bond that Bond ended up dropping. That would have increased it across the port. But the numbers are five. But I've seen people get up put up good numbers in spring games. It's how he looked putting up the numbers. I saw a young quarterback who was going through all of his progressions right, who was very comfortable in the pocket. His footwork was excellent as he navigated the pocket, as he would influence the rush I saw a quarterback that was taking what the defense was giving him. And that's a bit interesting to speak on because normally when we think about taking what the defense is giving them, like it could be code speak, right, We have a lot of code speak when it comes to college football. I a guy's sneaky athletic. He's probably a white guy that has a little bit of speed to him and his workout word all. That's kind of the very cliche ones that you go to. Taking what the defense giving you is generally code speak for a quarterback that is just going to check down and be conservative at all costs. I am not saying that when I say about an arch Manning, I mean it legitimately. When he had to check down, he did. But when the defense would offer him chunks, he was able to consistently find those. And then when the defense well for him massive deep balls seventy five yard touchdowns, he pretty consistently found those. He looked really comfortable to screen game, very good on all of his quick throws to arm angles that he was able to get it out from. Again, I told you really like the positive pocket presses of footwork, and when you're talking about great quarterback play. It ultimately comes down to two things decision making and accuracy. Do you know where to put the ball and then can you put like like you know the correct person to throw too, and then can you throw it to the correct area once you're throwing to that person. And I saw that in spades out of Arch Maanning in that spring game on Saturday. See I think Texas. I don't want to be clear about this. I almost feel a bit like I almost feel a bit cheesy and doing a take like this because I feel like everybody's rushing to get out of take like this, and to me, I feel like you'd have to be It's it's just a conversation I don't think has a lot of legitimacy. Legitimacy, so it's almost like I don't want to bring it up, but it's it's the it's the quarterback controversy thing, right, is there a controversy? Is our quarterback controversy at Texas? After this great spring game performance from Archmanning and no, no, very clearly Quinn yours is the guy and will be the guy this upcoming season. Your biggest takeaway have nothing to do with the controversy. If you're a Texas fan listening the right now, your biggest takeaway should be that, well, A, it seems like you have a really solid insurance plan for this season. Should Quinn Suvern injury as he did last year at some point during the year. Also, you have a guy who had that You're very excited about his potential now, even more so than you were before, and every rep that he's able to get this year will only make it better for the future. Probably your biggest taway though, is that you look like you should be really good at quarterback now for years to come. Right this year with viewers, who will probably be the top quarterback picked, then maybe two more years with Arch after that. And I would also say this about Arch, what a difference from last year's spring game to this year's spring game. And again this is something obvious. Well, yeah, duh, of course, right, Like last year's spring game, he'd been there a couple of weeks. He should have still been in high school, Like, it's very tough to go out there and perform, and he was like five or thirteen. But a lot of people watching every Arch there last year used that as a launch of bad to be like, oh, he's overrated. He's not that guy, He's not this or that. Well, look at him this year because if you just compare the two games, the growth is massive, which I also think is a big win for Steve Sarkisian. As you know, he is thought to be one of the premier offensive minds in college football today, and watching Arch's growth from last year to this year is well, it speaks to Sarkisian being able to train not just one guy to be really good like a Quinn youwers, but to be able to train guys for years to come. Here the only question I have, and this one I really want to chop it up with PB about who oh there he is right here? Oh there we go, Peter. What's up, dude? What's going on? Man? Can you hear me? Yeah?
I'm just trying to figure out get all the tech to where Quinn is transferring to now that Arch is won the Heisman right right?
It's it's funny. I mean I just talked about it. It's like I feel a little I almost don't want to engage with it because it's like, ah, like there because there is no controversy, right, like we all know if I'm a Texas fan, I should just be really happy because I feel like I should be excited for the next like four years now.
In theory, right, I mean, I'm there, you know.
I did the I did the spring game with Brian Robinson, and we were doing the pregame and postgame for Longhorn Network, and we look at each other kind of like, oh, you know, kind of joking around. After he throws the first pass for seventy five yards just on an absolute dime, We're like.
Here it is controversy, ha ha ha.
And then we kind of look at each other like the next you know, like two prizes later, we're like okay, And then like he keeps going and going and throwing dome at your dime, and we're like, this is is a thing?
Right? Is this not a thing? Is it a thing?
Like I you know, and and ultimately it is going to be a thing right one way or another. Like I understand, I'm interested in the fact of, Hey, do we want to talk about it? Do we not want to talk about it? You have to talk about it if for no other reason there's there's you know, history behind it. Look at Jalen hurts into a tongue of Ailoa like, both of those guys are successful NFL quarterbacks, they are successful collegiate quarterbacks, and they were in the same room and at some point Nick had to make a decision to go with Tua, went with the second half the Georgia game. He won a national championship. It may never come down to that, and I think the most but they have that option. And I also think it's a credit to not just Sarka developing because I I love what you said about you know how he developed Arch. But it's also a credit to Arch in his support system of going, hey, let's go old school. Not to start day one, I need to make a X amount of money in nil. It is hey, get your feet wet on campus, learn what it takes to live in Austin, which is a whole different ball of wax. I don't care where you're from Austin and being the big man on campus like he is, it's a different world. And get bigger, get stronger, get faster, and make it comfortable. That happened with Eli, it happened with Peyton, and now I think we're gonna see it with Arch. It's almost like the throwback how you see quarterbacks and develop t Bob back back in the day when we love college football rather than the new world that we have now.
Well, it's it's kind of funny because we had this discussion on the show the other day. It's like, I feel like kids nowadays just to go full old man sounding like it's it's just increasingly rare that anybody shows up and knows like, Okay, I'm not gonna play. And I was just using my own experience as kind of launching point for the conversation, because like, I grew up a hard corel Shoe fan, so it's really cool to get to go to LSU. But that first year, like, yeah, I knew, like no, no, no, I'm gonna go, I'm in a red shirt GONNW scout team, gonna get bigger, stronger, like learn the game. And so it's kind of awesome for me because I just felt like a fan that got front row tickets to every game, Like I would put sunflower seeds in my gloves and put my helmet behind the bitch and I'd be chilling there like I had front row seats, just loving it. And Arch, yeah, it kind of a throwback. He did that as well, and so Bo Katty the Chad says, if the last name wasn't Manning, we wouldn't be talking about this right now. He looked good. There's no controversy in the hype around his last name. So this is where I disagree. I mean, obviously, obviously the name is unavoidable, and yes it does push this to the four. But if you just looked at the film, like I said, it was elite level quarterback play. It was good decision making, It was checking down when he had to, It was clearly working through his progressions. It was chunk plays. It was accuracy either it was some dropballs it could have made it better, it was different arm angles like. It was just objectively a really damn good performance. And here here's here's what I wanted to ask you against.
It was also against a secondary that was ranked one hundredth last year and they're still trying to figure out who the hell that they have as well too.
You know that was gonna be the next question, the eternal camp paradox, Right, is this more about the offense being good or the defense being bad? For Texas?
It's a little bit of both. It's whatever you want to take out of it. But I you know, if I'm sark, I want to make sure that I'm ripping what am I known for it. I'm known for having good quarterback play and explosive offense. Right, And with the amount of wide receiver churn and turnover that they had with Xavier Worthy in others going to the league, is that, Hey, what was it going to look like with Isaiah Bond there, with Ny Black there, with with you know, Ryan Wingo, the five star recruit who was damn very impressive off the bat. What's this going to look like? And it looked good. I would rather have that tape much like LSU's tape last year, the secondary being horrendously bad and you had an explosive offense. All right, this is what we need to work on in the rest of the fall or of the transfer portal. Maybe we don't have the guys like I left the spring game thinking, not only does the Texas have the best quarterback room in the country, but they might have one of the deepest wide receiver corps as well, And that's impressive. You can fix the secondary to a certain extent, and you don't need to be the damn eighty five Bears. You need to have a top sixty defense to be able to win a national championships as explosive as that offense could be.
That's funny because those are the same internal conversations we had with like okay, if if LSU is going to break through, like what's the level? And like top fifty I think is to cut off that I attached that, but I think Texas offen is gonna be slightly better. So top sixty would I think, I think be accurate there. Let me ask you an SEC wide question here PB that I find to be pretty fascinating. Let's say there are three playoff spots. And I've been asking this of all our guests pretty much, but let's say there's three playoff spots for the SEC that there absolutely could be four. We're gonna go ahead and get Georgia one automatically, right in my own book, I'll give all a go ahead.
I don't know, I mean, I mean, Georgia is now what the fact that it's the gold standard, right, I mean, and especially you know, with Michigan losing as much as they've lost, you sit there and go all right, it's gonna be Georgian.
Who else?
Much like for a long time we talked about, you know, Alabama being the hey this is and then who else is going to get that?
So you're gonna say Georgia's one.
So Georgia immediately takes up a slot. I kind of been leaving towards giving Alabama automatic one, but let's do this or this, So then you got Alabama, Texas, Ole, Miss Miszoo lsu in a Seed thinks they're in that crew for sure as well am I missing anyone? The point is there's like a lot of very legitimate candidates and just like not a lot of oxygen in the room. So if you're scoring your top three going into the season, who are you giving the.
Benefit of it out to Georgia one, Texas two, and Ole Miss three. I mean, I feel like Old Miss in the way that they've brought to this thing together, is in better shape than Alabama is right now, especially at the quarterback, and that's not a you know, I would think Jaylen Milroe can get a little bit better. But there's also a reason why Isaiah Bond had an opportunity to be the stud I mean, Isaiah Bond had one of the greatest catches in SEC history, right the Grave Keeger route against Auburn. He could have stayed at Alabama. He could have waited and saw that Calen de Bor has had the explosive offenses and look at what he did with Roma Dunsay and all that guy and be the legend. Like he could have retired even if he never played NFL football and just sold Iron Bowl T shirts on that for his life and done insurance and you have been fine. And he was like, no, I want to make a business decision. I want to go to Texas. No, I Black did the same exact thing. So to me, Texas is coming in at number two, and you've got old Missus sitting at number three. I think Alabama, LSU, Tennessee, all those other cats are going to be behind him right now. Doesn't mean that even Missouri doesn't mean they can't catch lightning in a bottle. But those are the top three right now.
Yeah, I guess the only thing about Alabama is man, I just cannot escape the Kailin de Bor factor. I mean, the guy's resumes as untouchable as yell are fine anywhere. He's obviously got more talent you've ever seen anywhere. I thought coming out of the spring game, I thought it looked like a hard hitting spring game. I mean paths pop and physical, and that looks like a team to me that is going to be built through running the ball and do great o' line play and then kind of trying to put Jalen Milroe in positions to take advantage of that supreme memtholeticism. I may maybe maybe I'm just too I don't know, if you called Stockholm syndrome, like, I don't know, maybe it just runs too yes, maybe maybe my trauma runs too deep, pebe. But I just it's so hard to pre put even Texas over Alabama for me. And that's after they go into just schose last year and when.
I mean, listen, I understand that I'm gonna get bent over by the irs every single year, right, and so like like you just prepare for certain things, and Alabama being a college football playoff team, especially when there's twelve teams in the College Football Playoff is the same way, like you just it's death taxes in Alabama. That's traditionally what it is right now, but I have to see it and because everybody else has gotten better, right, everybody else has, I would say, if you're talking about the net increases of Ole Miss versus the net decreases of what Alabama lost starting with Nick Saban. It's more of a deficiency of what Alabama loss is a game changer, and again they could they could still have a hell of a season. I mean, we didn't even talk about if Connor Wegman is healthy at A and M and Mike Elcho squad. I think they're a little bit more in that kind of B tier of the SEC. But I thought about it today. Can you imagine a scenario where it's nine and two Texas nine and two Texas A and M in Kyle Field for the first time that they've played in over a decade with a college football playoff? But my nipples are hard just thinking about it. I'm excited to think that's a possibility of it. And then Brent Vinnibles is like, bro, remember me, I'm over here as well too, Like it's it's gonna remind me.
Yeah, and like we didn't even mention Oklahoma. And then and then no one even feels that compelled to be like, but what about Oklahoma because there's just kind of doubt there right now? Yeah, I agree, college football fool. Peter gets the show. There we go mentioning hard Knips absolutely gets it. Hey, TB, how about this quick little sojourn look at me and you dude, just a couple of gymnastics Natty champs chopping it up.
Yeah about Paul Skins and Livy Dunn living the best like life of it. I had Jake Clark, the LSU gymnastics coach, on the on My Serious XM show this morning, and he was awesome and he was just talked about like, hey, man, like when I rolled to Baton Rouge, I came from Georgia. I didn't know if I'd like this place, and he's like, d d bro was basically almost quit and yeah, was like the hell you're quitting. And so it's a it's a good time, man, good time down there.
We we talked to Jay this morning as well, and it was pretty uh, pretty fantastic. But yeah, for those that don't know LSU Gymnastics winning the Natty over the weekend, and yes you all know Livy done, her and Pulse schemes are together, but now have Natty rings and skiings. Is we looked it up today. He has thrown six times is the amount of one hundred mile per hour pitches that has any other starter in all of baseball. So LSU's power couple continues to only get more powerful. Peter, let's talk about other spring games around the country. I think Ohio State is a pretty interesting one. Actually, Hold before we do that, let's talk about spring games conceptually, because you see'll miss and they do more of like a Pro Bowl type fun and you know just just fun games.
Is a glass spring game? Yeah, that's what it was, right, And I don't.
Is that the future of spring games? Should it be?
No, because the future of spring games is no longer going to be spring games. Sooner or later, when they do revenue sharing with the college athletes, I think what they'll end up doing is actually playing damn games. I think that they'll play a LSU might play, you know, Louisiana Tech, WHOA, you might play Georgia Southern or something like that and go put it on television.
Right.
I mean again, if you're going to say, if you're going to have a game, why not actually have a game? Some teams can do it, some teams can't. But all of a sudden, if you came up there and you had a spring jamboreo, showcase and we got to watch those games. That's what you'll see.
And I, you know, I there's I was surprised.
Like with Sark, we talked to him earlier in the week and Sark's like, listen, I got enough depth. I'm gonna play a regular football game.
I need that.
And if transfer out, guys transfer out, but then we'll transfer guys back in. Like it's no big deal. But for Lane and those guys, I don't knock their version of the Spring game as well conceptually, because hey, you don't want to put on tape anything for anybody right now, and you don't want to sit there and go all right, well, hey, I got brought in here to transfer to Ole Miss and I was the fourth guy to catch a ball in the second half, and all of a sudden, I got eight voicemails from collectives and agencies going, hey, man, just let you know we saw you or we didn't see you in the spring game. You could come start with us from the fall. Let me let me collect you know, connect you with my collective guys. So I see both sides of the equation right now. That's why I say screw it. Just start playing other teams. And let it and do a revenue share and with the players.
Yeah, I mean it is interesting, like you said, like it's it's it is. It's so situational that getting into oh this is gonna be everywhere. It's just it's just hard to say either way. Like, of course you look at LSU and defensively, they don't want to show anything. They got Blake Baker and everybody like, no, they're just gonna run base the whole time. Because what's going to be a great advantage going into USC, and USC has the same advantage completely we're working their defense, right, Both these super similar squads are going to be squaring off Week one in Vegas, and neither want did you give up any information to the other? Uh okay, so.
Let's cluster f by the way that we end up having the transfer portal the way that it did, I mean even even even the transfer portal for college basketball as well, right, I mean like literally there could have been there could have been a player that made the Sweet sixteen, and at some point says, listen, if you don't collect hook me up at the collective right now, I'm not going to go play in the Elite eight game. I mean and the and they literally could have put their name in the transfer portal.
So so so it's it. I mean, the calendar is crazy. Right. That said, there are kind of no easy solutions in any of this because what we have clearly realized and this would be the last one, Peter, I know you busy, then we'll let you go. But like, what we clearly realized is the friction to me comes into play because we had accepted a system that the courts are now telling us should have been flatly illegal for about one hundred years. But the whole time we just accept there's being correct. Right, So now you have this governing body that no longer has any power to govern, right, And so it's like, so is the is the only is the only way to solve this just straight up some sort I don't know if it's you know, an actual union, but some sort of representative group of the players, uh, a new power structure for some of like college or college football collective bargaining. Like that's the only way out of this, right, But that's gonna take a long time to come about.
You say that because there's still all of these court cases are going to go for a while. The question is do you want to get sued into it like they've been, or do you want to be proactive? Like if I'm if I'm one of these conferences that's not the SEC or the Big Ten, what I would probably do? And you know, I mean the Big twelve? Why am I blanking on his name? Thet you Ormark Brett or Mark's at outside the box thinker. If I'm one of these guys, I'm I'm gonna be the first person to say, you know what, as a conference, we've we've bargained with our players or you know, and try to figure it out, like, give me a reason why I'm not going to go.
To the SEC or I'm interested in Actually I'm not going to go to the Big Ten? All right?
You know why because guess what those conferences they haven't collected bargain with their players right now, or they haven't set up a structure. And again I speak that because you know, I don't know the legal eese behind that. But if you're the Big Twelve, you're the ACC, or you're one of these other conferences, you're either gonna get eventually eaten up to Bob or you're gonna have to create so much of a dynamic thought leading process to shift gears and say, all right, I know the television money is over there, great, but guess what, here's what we do over here. And that's that's really the only truly way you're going to be kind of a leader in my mind going forward.
Yeah, It's the great disappointment of Charlie Baker to me is that he had such an opportunity to try to take this thing and be transformative, and instead he just kind of tried to hold onto a sinking ship.
But I don't don't I don't even know Tibob if if he had that opportunity to do that, like, I mean, that's some fair I think he wanted to, like like Immert and those guys had that opportunity and they thought, hey, listen, the courts will save them. And I think everybody thinks Congress will eventually settle something after this election is done, because nobody wants to tip their hand right now. But after the election, I think people are going to go back and look at it and go, Okay, we got four years of whoever. Now let's let's let's get this in and figure out and and kind of save them. The model or not save it.
Whatever they do.
Well, it's to me it's weird because like, I've never seen anything more bipartisan on a smaller level than making it easier to pay kids through an IL like it is the only thing LA legislature is a joke. And yet if they hear that Florida passed the law that you have to match for recruiting, like, it gets done immediately. So I just I find it tough to think that that federally like federal representatives would want to go against that. But but we'll see. I think we lost PB.
I'm here, huh, I'm here. Oh okay, tell me.
Start getting into to the government talk and and legal and like nil stuff.
I just zone out.
So that was on PC. I know. I know that's bad on me for letting get here. Hey look, Peter, thank you so much. Man. Give me your most impressive spring game that you saw this entire spring season.
I mean again, which team got juiced up the most from from what you saw? Yeah, I actually this is going to be shocking. But Mississippi State and Jeff Levy, the Blake shaping kid from Gaylor, and he put up some good numbers. And you know, I just I don't, you know, I don't know how good that they'll be because I don't think they have the death t Bob.
But also they're going to have some fun. I mean that egg bowl between him and Lane Kiffin is going to be a boatload of points. So that's gonna be another thorn in people's side right now. Defensively, I thatt A and M looked a little bit better. Of course, that that's no shock because you have Elko Connor Wegman still not one hundred percent you know, he's not one hundred percent YLF, but you know, and to me, Dusty Vorcheck said, listen, he called the LSU game, and he's like, dude, they can get any semblance of defense.
This offense is going to be explosive. But I mean again, I mean, hell, we've heard that before. But I'm fired up. Man, I just live in Levy.
When he got the jobs, like, I mean, we'll score some fucking points. He need to promise wins. He's like, I mean, I can guarantee you.
Think about lanes.
First season college football fools in here. He goes, did you just say Mississippi stated, I'm like, yeah, because the reason why I said it is like, who has juice? Was there juice when Zach Garnett was there? Not not necessarily that he was put in a really tough spot after after coach Leech. And so it's like, all right, does the fan base believe like that's all of a spring game? It's four is hey, you want to make sure everybody stays healthy, you want to learn a little bit about those guys, But also did you fire up a fan base? And I can say Mississippi State fans are sitting there going all right, well, we might actually have a little offense right now. But again, the Texas thing is going to be monumental to watch. And my last thing I'll leave with is I watched Quinn's body language in the second half of that game and after this because I just kind of was like, man, this is awkward. You got archs and you got nine thousand people looking for his autograph. He just threw for three hundred yards three touchdowns, and my guy might as well have just been smoking a cigarette, like yeah, we're good.
This He was chill.
You could just tell he was a leader, and he was like, yeah, man, I went two for three today, it's fine. Yeah, arts was great, Like it it was fine. So it's not the as we come full circle. It's not the chaos that everybody wants it to be in the storyline.
So no. I mean again, if you're a Longhorn fan, that was a great day for you.
Right.
You've got great insurance this season, and it looks like you should be strong for years to come. Peb thank you so much. You are the man. Thank you for joining us here today. I hope you have a wonderful day. My friend.
I'm just so glad I had to do it and Aaron wasn't here like this.
Man.
Yeah, I had to look at his face and.
Went the fuck out of here. Dude, h all right, man, hit him straight. Whenever you play golf next, that's you know, I'm trying to be a golf guy. All right. Later it do all right, Look, guys, that's good in pretty much via for today. I apologize A lot of people are like. Somebody had one of my favorite quotes and comments ever early he said, it looks like t Bomps living through a Tarantino movie right now, but was forced to the show. I don't know what the fuck is going on me today. I never get migraines I've had like a awful headache all day. I said, I don't know what's going on. I partied pretty hard all week and long, so likely it has something to do with that Ben's college, did say Archman and has those Sith looking iebags going on? Uh? Yeah, I did not. I didn't really notice that til you point out he's got maor Anakin in Revenge of the Sith vibes going down. But look if you have been no so some some show production notes here, uh YouTube dot com, slash at Snap's CFP on his corp snaps yp. We'll get it there. The the podcast my fault. Last couple of episodes have not been I have not been put up yet. We are, I am I should fingers crossed have that done by tomorrow. If I guess it's just a little it's a little wild right now. It doesn't matter. I don't need to get into it, but just be able to cover that. That will get fixed. Do not worry about that. And uh fifteen point two case subscribers, guys, freaking love y'all. Thank you so much. Okay, please continue to sub Please continue to help the show, especially now that we're independent. Anything and everything helps more if you hit the like button, sub to the channel. Those are great ways that you can help. And yeah, just share with your friends. Man. So we love you, Me and Aaron both back tomorrow. Back and see you back on schedule and we'll see you tomorrow for a brand new episode of Snaps. All right, guys, Leta
