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You have one of the most symmetrical faces I've ever seen. I think it's probably one of the reasons why you're so good looking. Did you ever know that how human beings are our brains are, like I think, I don't know, I mean it, Lets be clear, I am like pulling from early Internet stuff that I feel like I read about Elizabeth Hurley maybe on like crack dot com around like two thousand and I mean it could have been, but I feel like I remember hearing that human beings like we naturally love symmetry and and that's like a person's face is kind of beautiful. So I feel like yours is pretty on point with everything going on. It's a lot. That's like that was like the least convincing everything everything going on. Squeeze it. Look, that's how a quarterback. That's how you know a quarterback loves his a lineman. He knows, he knows how to just appeal them. Just just treat him like a big cuddly, cuddly teddy bear. But you call him like hot and sexy and you make him feel good. Uh, just juice him up a little bit, dad, and then then you know you protect you. You know, my on line stories of how I took care of my boys back in the day. I know, I know, yes, no, you are allowed to do that is true. Um, Now it kind of sounds like you were jerking them all off a little bit. Maybe I don't know, Okay, let's dive in today's staffs this Thursday, guys, tell us a weekend we're all feeling very happy for Disney and a couple of days. Real quick schedule next week, No show Monday, as it is President's Day. I we will record something with me uh early morning to release on Tuesday, and then I'm driving on Wednesday, so we may have to wait till Thursday of be back. But uh so we will have a couple of shows out next week's next week for sure. Today's show, we got a couple thing talk about. We gotta talk about the pactwal TV news or kind of lack thereof in many ways. And then we're going to draft the top ten s EC rivalries. And it's a fun ex size because well, not only you can talk about games that you really like, but um, you also get to maybe get an idea of like okay, why is like do you need the three permanent opponent? Things like do you enough of these rivalries matters? So we'll we'll we'll see what we end up thinking by the end of the show. Um, Aaron, So, the PAC twelve reportedly is in a bit of dire straits, at least when it comes to courting a television partner. Word on the street is that ESPN and Fox are not in a buying move anymore. Right, And look, I listened to a lot of something like video game industries, like other industries, like it seems like a lot of stuff is shrinking right now. Right. You see people being laid off, Cots meet hell at Disney, right, seven thousand people whatever just got uh laid off. And so you have a situation where reportedly Fox and ESPN aren't really in a buying mood for any major rights deals right now. Amazon is looking at the Pac twelve and they're saying, you know, we like some of your games, but we don't want the whole Pack twelve network. And then there's kind of Apple sitting there like, okay, we may be interested, but then you know, Apple is not as much reach as these those places. And the bottom line, it looks like the Pack twelve may have overplayed their hand a bit. Aaron is, I don't know how they find a m a suitor that can help them keep up with the other Power five conferences, like maybe maybe not even the Big twelve after this is all said done, much less trying to keep up, which is possible, like the SEC in the Big Tent. Yeah, I mean they're they're they're not a good position right now. And and not surprised at all by this. Just when you see the deals at the Big ten got you see the big deal that the SEC got, the Big twelve kind of scooped in there and got their deal done before the pack Tel. That was the race like which which one of those two conferences after the two big boys was gonna get the next big deal. The Big twelve kind of you know, took charge of that. And then the addition of four more teams with the loss of Texas in Oklahoma, a lot more ju use and and an ability to go out there and get a deal from from ESPN and etcetera, etcetera. So, uh, pack Tols in trouble man. I said it last summer, you know not I have talked about this before. It's when you lose USC and U C. L A and I know l A is unique and do they little football do they not? And that's the big money driver. It's still a major market. It's the biggest market out there. Uh. In the Pac twelve, you lose both those teams to the Big Ten, there's just not a lot of excitement. And also the big problem with the Pack twelve for these TV networks, I mean, the the late night game is is interesting because if you're a network, say ESPN, and you can do it New three, thirty seven, and ten, you kind of hit all of them, but it's still like everything so far pushed back that it's kind of you know, is it worth it for the PAC twelve? Is it worth it for the TV networks to try to scoop that up? So? Um? I think the interesting point now comes to be teams like Oregon, Washington, Stanford, do you want to stick around the path to success and the paths of the playoffs? Is there like, if you win the PAC twelve, you're in with it. With expanded plaoffs, you're in, but you're also going to be losing significant money compared to your opponents at these other conferences. Is it worth it to stay in the pack twelve when you may be getting half the TV revenue that the Big ten's getting, that the SEC is getting. That's a big deal when it comes to buying facilities or building facilities and and all the other things that go into building a winning program. Is it enough just to make the playoffs if you're just gonna lose every year in the first round, Like if I'm a Pack twelve team that's not getting the same resources as the Big ten, Big twelve sec is it just good enough to just be invited to the playoff every year? Like is that worth it to you for Oregon or Washington? Or do you want to actually make the playoffs and then also have the resources to go further in the playoffs. That's that's the question that they're gonna have to ask. No, I think you hit spot on, and it's something that I've been kind of wrestling with all day, and we're gonna get some of those comming to the chat in a second here, But uh, if something I've been wrestling with all day, and even now when you were just talking, I feel like it was almost like the scales fell from my eyes, and like I almost hate to say this, but the obvious path feels like needing to join one of the bigger conferences right now. Now. Now, maybe there are actual logistical issues here that I'm not appreciating that would stop this from happening, and with new TV deals in the way, like like like I get that there could be factors that play. But if we were to just take okay, uh, in this perfect little experiment world, Uh, if Oregon wants to leave right now, they can just leave and join the conference, right, I think they would absolutely leave. And even Oregon's interesting because you may say, oh, they got piled Knight they don't need, but Phil Knight can't keep past though with that TV revenue which is going to continue to grow and grow and grows. Maybe they have some sort of built in buffer zone, but even that would dissipate. And when you ask the question, Okay, what's worth it? No, I think Look, money, money is it's it's unstoppable, right, um not? Now you can you can use it to varying degrees of efficiency and so some people do more or less or less and more like. But if you pour enough money and something, generally you're going to be able to create that gap and you're gonna see that over time, and yeah, you'll have the automatic bid from the PAC twelve. But again your point out, what what what? What? What? Football? Are you playing every weekend? Or are you playing in a conference where people are even watching and if people aren't watching the game as much and you're not making as much as you would in the other conference, and you're not winning the playoff every year because only one team is gonna be guaranteed that spot maybe to get into the entire pack. Like no, it becomes one of those where if I'm Oregon and Washing and I'm like this is this kind of feels a little bit like join up or get left behind sort of momentum right now now maybe clear of cough, the the commissioner pulls some sort of rabbit from a hat hail merry deal with Apple or something which I can't really see. I can't really fathom me And I think that like insiders and people that actually know about this stuff would already be maybe intimating and that was gonna have in But um no, like if this TV deal comes in, I guess that's what we actually need. What are the numbers going into being if it comes in like much lower than the Big twelve than Yes, Oregon in Washington and maybe even some most schools you have started having some conversations about, you know, behind closed doors, about maybe what those pathways look like and listen, adding Sinew State is not going to make that conference sexier to to anyone for these TV deals just to be honest, and I love Sandeo State. They got a brand new stadium, you know, makes sense from from Geograhy. Everybody else everyway says they love San Diego State, and I realized I just nod and I'm like, yeah, me too, But like why I actually don't know anything about San Diego State because it's beautiful. I covered a lot of Sanego State. Okay, rules, rand new stadium, great colors, great colors, awesome munistrooms. They actually play some pretty good ball they have. They've been one of the better seems in the Mountain West for the past five or so years. So like they could compete in the Pack twelve. I think they would be fine. But it mean, it's the PAC twelve. It's not like it's a super competitive conference anyway. So, uh, I want to go back to the streaming services deal because even if you do get a lifeline thrown out to you, of hey, Apple throws out some big deal or maybe Netflix once again into live action. Maybe that's that's the one piece that they're missing, because Netflix is missing that. Netflix is missing live action compared to its competitors. You know, maybe they want to get their tones to the water, whatever it may be, is that still enough to still compete long term with with the big boys? You're gonna be live every weekend on ESPN, Fox and CBS. I mean because those deals, because cutting chords is making saying more and more people are cutting chords. But is that enough still to help you grow your program? Yeah? No, I mean it's it's a major risk. I I I agree. Um, well, and there just might not be enough demand to drive the price of all right, so we'll see what happens with the Pact against. Fascinating part of all this to me is a couple of years ago. Remember they had the Alliance and the Big Tin straight up Brutus Julius Caesar like stabbed the Big twelve in the back. But then the thing is, the Pack twelve was stabbing too, Like I know, we only talked about Brutus. Remember, like, the Big Twelve is reaching out in the pac Twelve was looking at poach teams. And now it's so funny that the Big Twelve kind of got galvanized by the situation. They just had a team played for a national championship. Uh, they secured their big deal. They moved fast, replacing team said, see you Texas and Oklahoma, you can't win the conference anyway. And then they um and and now they're looking at a bleeding and dyeing pack twelve and kind of saying, oh, how it's all turned around. Um, it's fascinating stuff. Man. Uh, let's get some of the comments. Uh Cody dances. The crazier part is that Aaron teeth or wider than the AirPods. I know. I mean, it is insane. I'm flaw sing, I'm using mouth wash, I'm brushing with charcoal, Like what do I gotta do? It's all about the tooth. Toothbrush. You have to have the right toothbrush like a sonic care. Okay, then you should be good. Then your teeth are white. Shut up. No, I know, but dude, not like you. Okay, other other what do you have here? I actually really like this idea about dressing up as presidents and doing the President show. Uh War Eagle from Rogers. We'll talk about Auburn a little bit, Anthony. Hell yeah, um, I think we'll go to four super conferences soon. Uh maybe not sooth, but it will. It just it just feel look, I don't know, I feel like it's moving that direction. It takes if if Oregon to Washington just dart what what is the pact holes at that point? I mean, who who can who would want to who would want to stick around? At that point, they would have to dissolve. I mean the rest of the teams would have to leave. I mean if you go below ten and eight, I mean, once you hit that, I think it's just it's it's it's it's to that point everyone looks around and saying, we gotta get the hell out. So I mean, yeah, but you had a pack eight with bigger brands. Like, if you lose you're bigger brands. You've already lost the two l A teams. If you lose Washington and Oregon, what's uf utah? Stanford? Stanford's weird because I mean Stanford Fields is pretty big though, and they are in a lot of sorts. I don't know. We'll see, well, we'll see what ends up happening with them. Um Cody who what was Cody? Brunei says the SEC gonna rework the deal before next year. Right now, the SEC is trying to have good faith negotiations with Disney about yes upping the TV deal as they would add a ninth game and create some really exciting matchups. And so that perfectly segues into our draft today because these are the very games that Greg st you will be pointing to and say, see, look at this, look at this here in my hand. This is why you have to pay me more money, even though we're already have a deal agreed to and we'll see. Man, I I wonder how much of a negotiating mood uh Disney is in brom. You probably have some insight there, like how realistic is it right before we start the draft? How realistic is it though that um the Disney will significantly, like will adequately bump up the contract to reflect the added value. I think there has never been a time where these big conferences get less money than they ask for. So if you're a premium TV sport, which is now at this point, the NFL, the NBA and and SEC football, SEC and Big ten football, you're probably getting what you want. So okay, so there you go. So maybe they will negotiate a good all right, Aaron, Top ten s E C rivalries. It's Thursday a circle. Oh we are, even though as we're gonna see, dude, not a lot of sec and and this is probably me being like like this is like college football xenophobia. Right, I'm too I'm too involved in my own L s U world. But I don't know that. I saw a ton of sexy sec East rivalries. It kept feeling like I kept coming back to West. So I'm looking for you to filling me in if I'm wrong on that. If I'm wrong on that, I mean, but okay, okay, okay, okay, I'm not crazy. All right, let's dis You said it right. You said it right to Bob. I'm proud of you. I finally you. She said you. Yeah, thank you. We appreciate that. Thank you. I haven't written. Okay, well, my first pick of the draft top ten Aaron, Um, I think you're gonna clown me. But I arrived here because I did an exercise that I was kind of shocked by my first pick of the draft. Give me the egg bowl, all miss Mississippi State, and you baby, say, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here? There's there was value to be had, right, there's Texas in Oklahoma on there, and in Florida, Georgia, and you know all the old South rivalry do Albera what no, no, no, no no. But I sat here today are and I said, Okay, I'm gonna think back. What game do I actually have real memories from on this little list that I thought up here. I'm like, okay, well, you know, I don't really have any uj all, we don't really have too much. Texas. I remember the hell out of egg Balls, dude. They're fascinating there there. They're this true like all out war that takes place where like kind of in the shadows of Mississippi and the swamps and the Deltas, when you know some people are watching, but not everybody, but for the people in it, it's like life and death, dude. And they're always you know, neither team is ever like threatening for national championship, right, so it becomes their own national championship, which kind of adds to the mystique and the entreat It makes it such a big deal. It's very competitive. It's like fifty fifty basically over the last twenty years, and constant goes back and forth, gives you crazy moments like Elijah Moore pissing in the end zone that it ends up with Lane Kiffin being the head coach at Old Miss. Remember Matt Luke. We had Matt Luke in this series going It's like Dan Mullen, right, I think, Or maybe it was Joe moorehead. Either way, it doesn't matter. I love the whole comporting crew. I love all the characters. I love every season like if this, if the egg Bowl was a TV show, I would want to watch it like always son in Phildelpha, I want to watch for the rest of my life. So give me the egg Bowl. Number one in my sec rivalry draft, definitely top five. A little aggressive going number one, uh just yeah, good for you though, stepping out of your comfort zone, going a little bit different there, all right? My number one is I would say, the obvious choice and probably one of the best rivalries and all of college. What do we have? This is the worst taking the history of the show. Yes, this is the worst tak This is the worst taking the history of the show. It's just because you know, it's just because you and your lizard producer brain. All you care about is heat. Okay, A long time ago you left behind somebody called heart. Okay, you like heat. I like heart. There's not more heart on display than the egg Bow. Well, you're gonna see the iron Ball. The only thing, the only thing that it has is the fact that it's not on Saturday. It's on a Thursday, Frinday adds a little bit more juice to it. I like that. That's that's the word, dude. It's awesome. And it's called the egg Bowl, which is absurd ab certainty for a big football game that everybody cares about. Did you win the egg Bowl? You picked a hipster band to be the number one song of all time. That's what you did, dude, A little bit actually, Okay, that's actually now, brom, I will say that is a fair assessment. I did not agree. I still think that your brain is corrupt, but I guess yeah. I never I never pushed back on my producer Lizard Brad comments. I never pushed back even slightly. But my cake still stands. Oh man, okay, yeah. Chat also is just roasting me right now. So they should as they should. Please please stay. I promise, I promise it will get better and bad not rand people out of the show or people turn on the pod. Actually people are the numbers that's going up. But it does not make your take any better. Has directed reinforcement, baby, correlation does equal causation. Egg Bowl number one, But you got there, all right? All right here we h the real number one rivalry in the SEC has to be the Iron Bowl Alabama verse all burn about memories. I got some great memories watching this football game. It's a state where there's no professional sports. All they care about is hating on each other seven three six five. That's all they talk about. And now both teams actually pretty damn good and basketball, which makes it even more exciting because those games are pretty soon as well. But where where we are mostly football here, so we will focus on football. It is not only the best rivalry in the SEC, it is the best rivalry in all of college football. It's better than Ohio State Er Dame. It's better than Michigan. It's definitely better than House than Michigan. Make sure we edited that gives make a clip, uh the fact that that you. I would just love to be a part of this, like in another life, because I do love being a Georgia Bulldog. To know that these fan bases hate each other so much all year long and they look forward to this one day to then be able to brag for three hundred sixty four more days about who's the better football team, who's the better university? Uh, there's nothing better than it. Like I said that, the fact that there's no professional sports makes the focus on these two teams the talk of the entire state. And uh yeah number one baby, number yeah. So okay. Also, by the way, no pro sports plus the egg bow as well, just saying but no, look, I get it, yes, And honestly, I think I agree with Cody Brunett. The kick six probably makes it one alone. Like I will never forget where I was when the kick six happened. I was and my mom's in California. I was making a root beer ham actually had in the oven, had an apron on and everything. When I started laughing like a madman as I watched Alabama's hopes crumble before them after little NICKI beg to get one more second left on the clock. All right, My second choice number three for top rivalries in the SEC goes to the world's largest cocktail party, Georgia, Florida. The only neutral site game and as you see right now, O Glooma, Texas will be also a neutral site game when they do come, but they're not in it just yet. Um, But being a Herbs, I know not if Kirby wants to get rid of it, but I will continue to petition why it needs to be in Jacksonville. To me, it's a major selling point, honestly, like playing in the Iron Bowl as a selling point for those kids when they get recruited. For me, knowing that I got to play in a stadium that was gonna be neutral site energy the entire game. I mean, as soon as you drive over the bridge, so we're coming into the stadium, remember my first time driving over the bridge. As soon as you get the bridge and you see the stadium, and then bam, all of a sudden, you see all these flags everywhere, Georgia flags, Florida flags. It is a ship show. So much drinking, so many people eating gators. It is a beautiful sight to see. And then you get in the stadium and it's bam, right down the middle, red and black, blue and orange, and really the best part of the entire rivalry, and lucky for me I was on this side three or four times. Is when your team is winning in the fourth quarter, in the game's pretty much over, and half the stadium disappears and then all of a sudden, you see all the people in the second level, like the red and black people, they go down the stairs and they start taking over the other side of the stadium. So then the whole bottom pole turns of the red and black. Uh. There's no better feeling than knowing that you essentially kicked half the stadium out of the building and then you're you know, your fans as weird. That's something I can't even pretty. Something I've never even like. That's a that's a concept of affecting the crowded a game that I that I've never even considered because you never playing in a neutral side game. It really is just split down the middle, So I never, like, I know the feeling of going like an opponent stadium and shutting that down, and that is great, but to literally almost like it's almost like you did some sort of like arcane spell and you just transformed all of their fans in your own your football skill. Wow, that's really cool. All right, Well, hey, look I feel great about my strategy. You kidding me? I just have to egg Bowl number one and how I get how I get Oklahoma Texas? What? Yeah, I pick four, Let's go dude, okay, man, I thought you were going Iron Bowl. Oh you texts, but I forgot. You know, I'm gonna let you take Georgia. I wasn't gonna let you take Georgia Florida and butcher the name on this show and say Florida to Anna wouldn't have nothing interesting to say on it. No, I fine, it'd be verterfied. I keep from my voice. Turn every Thursday into pay Day with T and T Thursdays on FanDuel's Sports Book, where that's pretty cool. 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So Texas leads a series sixty three to fifty with five ties, so it's only been played a hundred twenty gain times, first game taking place in nineteen hundred on the dot. That's pretty sick. I would say, my only the only thing that's maybe knocking a bit. Oklahoma has kind of been dominating it as of late. Do They have been some closest sciding games the most part, but Texas going forty nine nil last year did maybe spice things back up a bit. So I'm actually aaron like I've always just um from afar, I am actually very excited for this. So now be in the SEC right, and this is a prime example of why I mean, there's gonna be a new kickoff that will do primetime night numbers. And uh, it's it's why does he is going to renegotiate, and it's why you brought them here in the first place. So I can't wait to start seeing this more firsthand. Okay, so give me ogleman Texas. There anything to add on the I always want to say Red River shootout, but it's it's the Red River rivalry, Yes, rivalry, which is a bit of a tongue twister. When why will we who my Yosemite? Sam? Aaron? What do you think about little Texas Oklahoma? Do I think that's? If I wasn't if I didn't go to Georgie, I probably would have picked that at three, So I'm with you. Actually that should have been probably two, because you're stupid egg ball at one. You know, the is is the largest art cocktail apart. I think we can both agree Iron bowls should be one. Soclohoma should be too. No get if I got I don't don't at all. Um, I do not coas hunt it. Okay, So my next pick after that? Wait, big news was the was the sub toasted? Was it toasted? It was toasted? Oh my god. For those that don't know, Aaron, under penalty of domestic abuse, has told his wife if she does not toast his subs that it will be bad for her. Uh so we're all very happy Aaron that that chair and like the angel that she has has brought you a toasted pup sub. Oh dude, I'm not gonna do that. Crow gay dude, I'm not gonna lie. That crunch sold me like that was That was a fully movie esque level of crunch. When you just pit that sub right now, I am so freaking hungry all of a sudden, Wow, where do I go next? Okay, I'm not going to go I'm gonna go with something that I know then, and I don't even know if it's actually gonna make it through, which is a bit of a bummer. It's not necessarily the most historic rival, and it's definitely not been the most competitive, but at least not over time. But I'll take l s U Alabama, man. Since about two thousand seven, rights, I think they even showed back up at Alabama, there was you know, there was a solid five six year stretcher. They were kind of vying for power right Like a lot of times out of the West, at least Els, she was the only one that could challenge out of it, and a lot of times it was kind of split fifty. Then you went through the bad years, but now you punched back. There was the epic Joe Burrow to get to a game that had like a million NFL players in it um this last year, the West is decided on a two point conversion last play in Tiger Stadium. It's a game that I mean, CBS, it took like Alabama winning like eight times in a row before CBS was fine, like, Okay, we're not gonna use our loan primetime night slot on that game anymore because we just got accept that. Maybe times moved on and then it immediately kind of reversed, right, So yeah, I would love to see L s U Alabama continue, even though I think there's a better pick here. But I left it for you, Aaron, because you can speak to it more. But as far as my memories, thats you Alabama go. I mean, that's just that was like the team my whole college, right where if you won, you were going to win the West and do what you wanted to do. If they did, they were on every plane in the game the Century Inn, which is like so hyped up. It felt just so freaking massive to win that game in Tuscaloose is probably one of the greatest memories I have in playing football. And to hear that stadium goes silent and that night, it gives you goose bumps. Did they missed so many field goals? But then yeah, I would say this, this is going to be the most competitive game in the SEC for the next five years until Saving retires. This will be the best game on the schedule until Saving retires. Two of the best coaches, I would say, to the top three coaches in America duking it out, so the best talent on the football field. This game is gonna be badass for the next next until sabd whatever say, decides to hang it up. So enjoy it. I don't know, well, I mean, I don't know that it's gonna last. There's a lot of talk that it's not gonna be one of them because like ironically L, s U and M is going to happen. And I love L, S U, A and M. But I really had a moment just now as I'm looking at it, and obviously, look, I want you to talk about I guess I could have picked it had you talk about it, But like you, J Auburn, I would say it's actually above these but um, but yeah, I think ls you Albama making left by the way, So I do, because Alabama has to play Auburn and they have to play Tennessee and I don't know, We'll see, we'll see, we'll see the TV gods. Mickey's probably like, oh, I think you're gonna avoid it. I don't think so too. I mean, it's it's it is hard not to want to put Brian Kelly first. Nick Savid, I mean, like, I mean, you know, Steve first, go the first goal was an overtime game that you got to go for two to win it. Yeah, d year, I went, Okay, I went red River and Algabama yea, Uh you know where I'm going on this one. I'm going to the South oldest, deepest, biggest, juiciest, uh enormousness rivalry Georgia verse Alburn. Baby. I had no ill will towards Auburn, and I hate to make this about me, but I'm gonna make this about me. I had no ill will towards Opera and I knew nothing about this riferee when I got to Georgia. But the first game I played at albur my freshman year, I learned real fast about how much each of these fan bases hate each other, about how much each of these teams hate each other. And after that game, I had no love towards the Auberan Tigers. Still to this day, I've called two games in Auburn as an announcer, and every time I still get like Buddha the state of me as an announce why our game? And then I look at the JumboTron and every like third down, it's like, you know, get loud, getting noisy, and it's me getting decleted. I'm like, are you having PTSD flashbacks in the In the too of my biggest losses in my career were we're dealt by Auburn. So I just don't have a lot of love towards the Tigers there. Man, It's it's a special game that I will say that, like, there is so much energy whether you're in Athens or you're there in Auburn. Um. I said, there's just so much anger for both teams. It's always someone's piste off, someone's trying to kill someone, um. And I got to experience it like four times, and I got eight stitches a broken stern um uh neck Whiplash, spray need to uh to to to show for for what this vivel he really is all about wave what from That's not just one game though, that's all the games. But still no, no, that was one game. That was one game. That was all that was my freshman year. Freshman year, bro. If you pull up at the pictures of there's I had, there's literally so much Aaron Murray and Georgia Auburn content. I don't know where to go, so I I tried. So you have the Nick Ferlie video. You obviously have the reacts after the Prayer of Jordan Hair, which a brutal I'm currently reading an article about people fans being mad about you calling the Auburn Georgia game, which is hilarious. I had the bloody jersey picture is awesome. Yeah, that's great too. The referee looked at me and he goes, Aaron, I need you to change your jersey. I'm like why, he said, because it's covered with blood. I'm like, oh, the first this is the first series of the game, and um, I'm bleeding everywhere. Everyone in the huddles like stirrupment, like oh God, and so that's stop. He fall is so stupid. You just everywhere you have a crack stirred um. Like I told you, I told you the bet, the bet. The bend of the Ben Jones story is still the best out the Ben Jones story is still the best. When Ben came in the huddle and I my stern room is broken. I can't feel the left side of my body. It's numb. Everything the left side is numb. I can barely call play. It's in the first quarter. Can Bury call play and Ben Jones hands me. Ben Jones hands me three dreadlocks that he ripped off the middle linebacker's head, and he goes here you go. I'm like, Ben, what do you want me? I have twenty seconds to call up. I'm like, what do you want me to do with these? And he sticks him in his pants, plays the rest of the game with the dreads in his pants, and then he attaches it to his ceiling fan after the game back in athens Um. That's when you know your offensive line loves you, when they're ripping dreadlocks out of people's head. Shut out. Oh, there's so much good to unpack there. I'm crying, laughing the idea that you got that fucked up. In the first quarter. There was like I have never contemplated quitting football so much of my life in that first quarter, like this ship sucks. It's such a barbarian sport too. That you're alignment. You're protecting your honor guards like I got you in the chair the stern room protects your heart, like they told me after the game, Like that's a that's an injury usually seeing car accidents, not football games really rare. I just sleep sitting up for three weeks. I couldn't lay down because I felt like my chest was going to rip open. Oh man, I'm going to find the picture. There's a picture of me. The next day. I had a neck brace on, had a neck brace on, I had uh something like covering my stitches outside an arm sling, and um, I was limping because I had have sprained left knee. So you basically got shot. Do make a medieval battle, right? You got shot with like multiple arrows. You got cuts all over you, and Ben brings you like a string of ears cut off, like yeah, he brings your head and he's like plops it on your laptock. Better. I love you, dude, Oh my god. Wow. Okay, j U g A Auburn. Well, well that's that's just how long did you play that game? Did you play the whole game? I played. I played the whole game until Nick fairly hit me in the knee and that kind of knocked me out, you know, the late knee. It sucked me up. That was Thank God. It's like putting the which then turned into a full out fight on the field. And then my dumbass brother who plays played baseball was on the team. Everyone's running on the field to fight with helmets on. And then you see my brother running on the field without a helmet on. I'm like, Josh, you do. Then it's also like, yeah, that's class football mistake number one. Never started firing that helmet on. It's so stupid. No, never, never. Alright, my next pick, who I'm gonna go to Tennessee Alabama? How to give one more and how to give some East love. There's just not, like he said, not a lot of great East rivalries, or at least East is involved in some way or the other. Besides, like George, obviously, uh, Tennessee versus Alabama has been very lopsided for for what the past two decades. So good to see them back on top and shout out to the basketball team. That was a big win last night for the number one team, Alabama. Say right now, Alabama owns our Tennessee owns Alabama sports Alabama? Hey, how about this? Could it be my number one? Nineteen turnovers only led once first gaming right, number one in twenty years? I mean, absolute choke job by Nato, So more like Nate chokes okay, because he's I love the fact that Tennessee got Alabama not once but twice. Uh net ninety two. We are we are drafting the best SEC rivalries right now? Um all right, yeah, okay, So look that's a weird pick. Aeron a little bit because it's actually been awful, like since the uh since since the block who was the big guy? Yeah yeah, yeah played when I was like and he kept talking about how big he was the whole time, and I was kind of like, well, yeah, I mean that's cool. It's kind of tell my girlfriend. Yeah, dude, I'm like, okay, I mean, obviously you're way bigger than I am. Dude, congrats, um but no, but yeah, when Cody blocked that field goal. Until this year, that series kind of sucked. So I hope that you end up being proven right with this, and I think they're going to I think I think they're gonna I think they're gonna keep it, so we'll see, all right, So, Brom, how many do I have now I have to finish? You have eight? Nine, Aeron has ten. Okay, Um, you know you start to do this, you start to realize, like, yeah, some of these games, you know, it's like you can start to reach a little bit. I'm gonna go with one that y'all I don't really care about, but I think or not that should that you all don't care about, um that I don't think people care about, Like I don't think Chad or Brom's from probably gonna hate as well. Uh, but I'm gonna go Arkansas and Texas A and m uh this is another neutral site game, Aaron, Right, you're right. I mean they've they've been playing in Jerry World, right, has it always been a neutral site game? So okay, So if you're hearing the hesitants in my voice, it's because I know this series has a way deeper history than I'm getting him credit for. And they used to play all the time back in the Southwest days. And it was kind of sparingly um until now. I feel like it's been every year the last few years, but it's always been fantastic games, very close games. UM. And these are two fan bases that you don't think about as often. I guess this is probably just a product of my sec westness caring about this game, but it's another one of those fifty fifties. Give me, give me Argenta and M. I'm just rambling. I don't have that much interesting ship to say about this game, but I do like it. For my final pick, give me Texas, Texas A and M, a rivalry that has been played in a long time and one that needs to be played. I know that Texas A and M especially is going to try to avoid playing this game, but as we said, right, the TV gods dictate what gets played, right, we have to put together the best matchups. As Andy Staple said, why in the world would you make this current SEC and not schedule Texas Texas A and M. So I I think they need to make that needs to be one of their permanent's uh in this new schedule. I'm I'm a little bit more on this last one. Uh. Did you you didn't do L s U floridat all? Did you? Oh? No, I love L s U. Florida, and actually, oh man, I have way more. I didn't want to go like multiple L s us because I do have because I appreciate that people don't really care about L s U. Florida like L s U and Florida care about FID Like that's very near and dear to my heart. I was just drafting from heart. I would have done I would have done that over Arkansas, A and M easily. But I am trying to spread the wealth a little bit, all right, So I'm not gonna pick that one. I'm torn between Arkansas verst Missouri because there's a trophy involved and I always like that for the for the battle line rivalry. Uh. And then Florida versus Tennessee. I kind of really like that because I always like I I because that's to me, that's always like a three thirty game and the checkered it's usually a checkered stadium in Tennessee. And I don't know where's something about that game that's exciting, but uh, there's a trophy, there's a trophy. There's a trophy involved. Isn't isn't it kind isn't it kind of like a manufactured trophy? A little bit? The I mean, I like, wasn't it just made like, not to quote thor but all trophies are manufactured? Okay, Yeah, I was about to say that too. I feel like, Okay, if we're just being honest, I feel like we kind of lost their way at the end of this list a little bit. Are you feeling that, Yeah, it's just not great after six or seven, like, because then it just boils down to what you personally love, right because I love L s U Florida, I love L s U. Texas, A and M. The seven overtime game with Joe Burrow Jimbo Fisher's nephew getting punched Kevin Folk what a sentence. Um. I think the top seven in some order have to be the top seven just to recap Eggball, iron Ball Georgia, Florida, Oklahoma, Texas, L s Obama, U J Auburn, Tennessee, Alabama as your number seven, and then the last three is kind of dealer's choice. So yeah, the question, now that we're at the end of this, do you feel like there's enough rivalries because me and Jacobin have an debate when you do the nine games, to go one permanent and rotate everybody or three permanents, And he's been kind of doing Devil's advocate for the one permanent thing, but like, are there enough rivalries to what is the argument for one permanent? There's enough, there's enough for there's enough for the top teams. It's just like the mean is the one like you and Auburn are the schools because they both have too that you feel like me, Alabama has, Alabama has to. I think I think we're kind of overrating Alabama Tennessee a little bit, like I like it on this list and I feel you I maybe not, maybe not if it gets excited. But I'm talking about like I'm talking about like half to have you have to have the irable, you have to have the south Olds rivalry, and you have to have the cocktail party. So really, like Georgia and Auburn, there seven you have to do? Is there is there is there a way to do two and stead it gets real you need the even number for the rotating Yeah, okay, I think from so so, the only argument it gets to three permanents to be that somebody's gonna get screwed right, and that if you do like one in eight and rotate everybody, then that there's no bitch about competitive balance. I like to be honest, I would be honestly if Georgia Auburn, If Georgia Auburn didn't happen, I don't think either fan base would lose their ship about it. I don't. All right, we now have the second worst take in the history of the show. What I think I just could not just scree more. No. I think in like four or five years, people like, okay, whatever, like it has not been not exciting of a rivalry for the past decade plus. I mean it has to do a little Okay, let's do a little Winzipedia here. By the way, win Zipedia, y'all if you all like to look up rivalry stuff. Um, I been your rivalry and time in win Zipedia, and it's just like a really great website for this kind of stuff. You have to remember, Aaron, like the average age of the college football consumers like fifty six, Bro, Aaron, I can't. I can't sport this. The game was first played in eight two. Okay, plastic was invented in en five. This game existed, but enough to keep? Is it enough to keep a three six because of just one rivalry? Because I'm the same, right, So I think so because I love the idea. Maybe just have been trained like this in the NFL or something like you know, watching all football growing up or the the West. Like I like the idea of knowing, Okay, these three teams I'm gonna square up with every year, right, So like I have added uh blood like narrative like I have, I have more juice there, Whereas if it's just this constant rotation, It's great, you get to play right and you're still going to play everyone in the three six, right, But I'm like, like, I don't I don't care. I think you can achieve close enough competitive balance. Um, and still gave its team three kind of other fan bases to learn to hate and to latch onto. I mean, bro, the World's right old driverry now or this household river? How many George won a row six? The series is sixty three to fifty six, So previous to this wind streak, the series was literally fifty seven to fifty after like a hundred and twelve of these things or thirteen of these things? Are you sorry, yeah, six, So you can't get rid of this. I just can't get there. I just can't support it. And again, I have no real memories of even watching the games that much. I just can't. I can't now, And I feel you George's wax in that ass lately. So it's gotta that's gotta change very much. An Alabama Tennessee feel going on right now is the problem. Yeah, it's true. Um, that is true. Uh what we are? We are? We done? Like I don't I don't really know. We just got done. I think we're doing. We're going okay, Yeah, yeah, I guess we have time to eat my nice crunchy glorious. Oh no way, dude, oh way? Boys? Do we just rank? Do you do a quick ranking the best sub places? I go? First? Publics is one. Um, I don't have any real sub allegiance anymore. I mean, I really don't like Subway anymore. H No, I love Jimmy, jim You're you're a big toasty boy. There's no quiz does here anymore. We got the subs Christs commercial, the commercial brom you broke you broke me the last time we do it, So we can't do the commercial anymore. It's well you didn't wait too funny? Up? Is this true? Andy Jay says Kentucky fans killed Smoky in the nineties with meth. If that's true, Tennessee, Kentucky probably deserves a spot on this list. Maybe just go ahead and um all right, Hey, I love y'all everybody in the chat. Um again. We are out on Monday as it is President's Day. Oh maybe I'll go to the Hall of Presidents on President's Day. I'd be kind of fun. I'll be at Disney, but we will record something on Tuesday. Wednesday, I'm driving, so I don't know about that. And then Thursday I'll be back and we'll be snapping back. Um. I really do love everybody who hangs out with us every day in the show. If you like subscribe to channel, thank you so much. 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