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Snaps - SNAPS College Football's Going Away Party

Published Apr 11, 2024, 9:30 PM

Aaron Murray and T-Bob Hebert say goodbye to The Volume, and break down some of their most fun moments from their time here. They'll be discussing everything from the GOAT Nick Saban, Georgia's HC Kirby Smart, the LSU Tigers and everything you want to hear about in the world of college football.

01:30 - Introduction

7:00 - Spring Games

21:00 - OJ Simpson dead at 76

25:00 - Will Reggie Bush ever get his Heisman back?

30:00 - Northwestern

39:00 - Will Saba show up to A Day?

48:00 - Favorite Snaps memories

 

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The Volume. Yo, what's going on y'all? And welcome into a special episode of Snaps. As this is a big one, folks. As I get my windows in order here, I hope you're all having a wonderful day. I am t BA baby Bear. He is Aaron Murray and this is Snaps, a college football podcast, produced and hosted and put together by the Volume Papa Colin Cowherds Podcast Network, which of course you can find great shows like Club Shaysha and All you Know Nightcap and all the other excellent Shannon Charp Cotton everything else they got going on there. Now I say a very special show because in case you missed it, this will be our final Snaps episode under the Volume banner. Now we told you the other day. Okay, it's like the old wolfle Wall Street meme. We ain't going anywhere. Okay, Snaps will continue. In fact, we won't even be taking a break. We will still be going live next Monday, Tuesday and Thursday. And maybe we're even adjustice schedule even more based on how we want to do it. But but we are no longer going to be partnered with the Volume. So today we're gonna look back on the last couple of years, because what a fantastic time. It has been a lot of good memories that met a ton of great people. As I said the other day, literal life changing experience for me personally, certainly being here with the volume. And we'll talk about what comes next and kind of what to expect if you enjoy the show in ways that you can help us out. So what up? Will Ben goat dog? George General lines? What's happened? Everybody? We got? Emerald lines, Let's go STEP's best, most entertaining pono cooegeul But we love you, Emerald, thank you, but share it with your friends. Aaron, what's up man Master's Day for you?

Dude, I'm feeling so good. I wish I was. I wish I was in AUGUSTA. Damn it Georgia for putting your spring game on Master's weekend. But somewhat kidding, but I'm very happy.

To be I mean, no, you're not kidding. So I'm happy to be a little bit again about it.

I know not I'm happy to be coined the game. I'm just not happy that it's on the same weekend.

Are you You know what I mean? You did seem actually very genuinely excited to call the l SHU spring game last year, I.

Did so Mexicans Maravitas.

That was one of the worst pictures I've ever taken in my life. My titties were popping in that white shirt that it took with you and Jake. That that made me, I think. I think Actually, like a day or two after that was when I was like, I should start like fast maybe uh no, not working out, bitch, Okay, I already was working out, but I did that. That picture of my titties did cause me to tighten up the diet a little bit, which is, you know, that's you have to have those low moments to inspire change. Sorry, now, what were you saying about Dusty.

Dusty's gonna be on the call there so for he may be hitting you up. So uh okay, cool fellow shoe. Oh no. I like spring games are fun because it's relaxing. And every spring game that I've called, I've been given access to be on the field. Yeah, like behind the quarterback, so I'm literally you know, because you know, the head coach is usually hovering somewhere around ten yards behind. Yeah, so I get to hang out with the coach do a little bit of interview watch it so it feels the adrenaline's a little bit more spiked up, kind of seeing the view from behind the quarterback, in which I enjoyed doing so. Sure, I like that aspect. If it's a little bit more relaxed, you get to know, you know, get get get to kind of hang out with the guys a little bit more. So I enjoy it once. I just wish it was not on a time when I would be, you know, either in AUGUSTA or sitting on my couch drinking a beer watching the Masters.

Oh this is pretty cool. Look at Maroni laying music in the chat. I was out of town playing music with Emerald allonce at an Eclipse music festival. Had no service back at it, steps, Well, what's up? That's cool dude. So the SAMs community, former relationships within Simeo's music, I'd love to listen. I mean, you think you're pissed, Aaron. We always talk about how just brutally awful it would be to be a college football coach, maybe especially an assistant. Although you're going to make way more money than everybody. It's like, can you enjoy the money being an assistant at Georgia. I would imagine basically guarantees you can get access to the Masters if you want, And so you are quite literally losing one of your biggest perks for a day that, to be honest, you probably don't really give a fuck about, Like the practices of any game have meant way more to you than does the Spring game itself. And now even though you're grinding film twenty four to seven, you're calling eighteen hundred, you're in high school kids a week You just want one weekend where you can take advantage of your status, and it's ruined by having to go between the hedges.

My boy, Bobo, and this is rumors, Boba, do not tell me this, but I did hear from some people that he was going to go to Berkman's on Sunday. And that doesn't seem like it's to be happy because he's gonna be entertaining high school kids. Let me let me pose this. Do any coaches like the spring game or is it just to me? I've always thought of as it is for the fans. This is the opportunity for the fans to get in the stadium, get a peek player. Some of the mid year in row leagues, maybe see a couple, you know, freshmen that red shirt the year before. But from like a coaching standpoint and from a player standpoint, the only thing I was saying about is like, can we just get in, get out, stay healthy. And then Saturday night post spring is like a big party, like we're about to have some fun now.

Yeah. Well, and and it's one of those things where the yeah because ironically it because it is so public, you can't actually do the work that you want to do right, Like it's it's a situation where you don't want to show anything because it's off season preparation. Like maybe you have a player or a package, or you're leaning into a new system that you really like. You're not gonna see any of that come Saturday. You're gonna see very basic formations defensively, very basic calls offensively. Now I will say this, I will see this. You can glean info on an individual standpoint, right, and it's not always the most accurate because some guys will fall off as it gets mentally more complicated. But like if you have a guy and he's just out there and just a base pass or situation and he's dominating the tackle, well, that's a pass rusher. Maybe you can start to get a bit excited about if you're a running back and you take a power like sixty seventy eighty yards, that's going to make you excite your receiver. You're big, one hand to catch in the corner of the end zone. Like these are all still well earned plays, and because there are fans in the stands, players are going hard. It's just that the coaches aren't necessarily trying to manipulate the situation as much to put you in a position to succeed as you would in a true game day. Like I remember, for me trying to become a starter, it would have been my resort sophomore year or no no, sorry, rechard freshman year, spring retro fresh going into retort sophomore. That spring game actually ended up giving me a ton of confidence because we dialed back all the mental stuff. It was easy to make the calls and I played very well, and I carried that forward into fall with me and talking to my coaches after the fact, it actually did help inspire confidence in them as well that I maybe could be a legitimate starter for that team.

Well it's not listen, it's not a game, the atmosphere like, let's let's be real, like it's not you know, for Athens or LSU this weekend, there's not ninety two hundred thousand people in the stadiums for these games. Sometimes you get that, you know, we see in Alabama do that. We've seen Georgia, we've seen Sara in universities really pack out a stadium for a spring game. But it's still more than what you get on an average practice. You're playing in your stadium in front of your fans, and I guess it does give you somewhat of a gauge of who is what I always like to call a BP player a batting practice player. A guy that goes out there and does really well at VP and hits it home run after one, but you put them in a game like situation, he can't hit the curveball. Guys react differently in a game situation than they do practice. My lights are on and there's fans in the stands, and mom and dad are there, and your girlfriend's there, and you're trying to maybe impress or do too much, or your butt gets a little bit puckered up compared to normal practice. Now do you react this is a closer situation than a normal practice to that. So you do get a little bit of a feel like who can truly show out and who are the true performers that do take their game to another level in front of the fans.

And you look at this sweet chest dot com shut I got by the way, dude, and you you also it's the little things too, right, Like you said, you're in the stadium, and I remember for me it was the first time where I had ever played football where I could look up at the jumbo tron and like see the replay of the play and be like, oh shit, look at that, like I just did that, or ooh that could have been better. And so there are little fun quirks, but again it's something kind of world changing. But there is some value there. It's maybe just in light of having to skip the Masters, that value feels a little less than I think Alabama is Alabama gonna put ninety k in? I mean don't they normally? I don't know. I mean under Kaylin de Bor, I would imagine do.

You think bands are excited for the spring game in Alabama?

I mean they already pack out a day generally, don't they like elish fans never win. I've always feel like it was maybe like fifteen to twenty k if that LSU.

Last year, there was only one side of the stadium, lower Bowl that they set people in. Correct.

Yeah, that's what I'm Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's not it's it's not very big. Generally, there's like baseball going on that people want to go to, and just other spring sports that people are into.

Do you think do you think Alabama fans are they excited for the change or are they kind of already mentally preparing themselves for a possible drop this upcoming season, so you may not see the enthusiasm in Tuscaloosa.

For the game. No, I already think that Alabama fans are masturbatory about their spring game attendance, Like they love being like we fucking pack it out because we give a damn right. And so when you combine that with a with a coaching change, I expected to be pretty damp full, if not completely full. I feel like that's something that they kind of hang their hat on, if you will. Fox is televising their house state spring game, and look, you know, the TV partners love getting a little excuse to talk about football and put football on the TV, and it's okay. Where where's this other question I wanted to get to? Do you think spring street ball games are worth it to go to as a fan? I was thinking about driving a Happy Valley on Saturday. But I'm on the fence about an hour and a half drive. Hmm, Well, I gotta be honest, I don't know that I would do an hour and a half drive unless you just want to go to campus and make a day of it, and you have other stuff you want to do. Maybe want to go to the restaurant. Yes, you bring the kids, Like, great for the kids because it's gonna be way more chill, so they can run around and and they're not really always going to discern like what's the real stressful time?

Yeah, you're you're not. I agree, Like I think it's a good family day. So if you do have kids, or you want to go relax or say you went to that university, I mean hill in the South, the weather's gonulda be perfect. It's gonna be seventy eighty degrees sunny. It's like to be on in Athens or in Tuscaloosa, or you know, ban Rouge or any of these other schools in the southeast have their springs. Is we can you get great weather, you get the walk around campus, go downtown, get some food, hang out, and you get to go watch a game where you're not fucking stressed.

Yeah sure, I'm sure.

Like, yeah, just enjoy football without worrying about any sort of consequence.

Yeah, just watch the things fly around a little bit.

Yeah, I think it's great.

See, but the thing is too though to be clear, like Appens is one of the cooler towns to go to, Like that might be worth an hour long drive just because you want to go hang out in Athens. I can't speak to Happy Valley. I can't. I mean, I don't know that I think that Baton Rouge would be worth it. But maybe I've just you know, lived here too long and so it's familiar to me where I they did it. Like I wouldn't drive to New Orleans for a spring game.

Though you're saying from New Orleans to ben Rouge.

I don't think I would do either. Even if the city I was going to was New Orleans, I still wouldn't go if I wasn't having to cover it, uh for work. But yeah, better parking to ben concerts, absolutely, which is why I don't get the A day thing, because fuck me, we are not getting me to deal with ninety thousand people worth the logistics to go watch a spring game, although again this year with Kaalin Depoor. If there ever was a year, this would be it. Okay, there's a few different stories to get to, and then we'll get into some of our favorite moments from the past and what comes next for Snaps. First off, we said it when we talked about a couple days ago. We said it was firmly in the rumored department. We were essentially in the junior high bathroom spreading gossip, and appears the gossip is unfounded, as a USC defensive tackle Bear Alexander came out yesterday and said he is not transferring and that he is looking forward to winning a national championship at USC. So sorry to LSU fans and all those other defensive tackle hungry fan bases out there, Bear Alexander not going to be an option.

Yeah, that's unfortunate, especially for LSU who really really really needed him to hit the mark. There'll be plenty of other guys that do hit the market. I think this was it was an interesting move because I don't think either of us are high on USC this year. I don't think either of us think that US is a true contender in the Big ten. And we saw the win lost total. I think we showed the graphic the other day. They're like, what are I'm at seven to eight market?

Yeah they're right, yeah, like six point seven or six point and they're right under seven.

So, like, you know, I don't know what his true motives are. Is his motives at IL Was there maybe some more dollars that he was trying to get out of USC too, or the collective or whoever there to keep them there? Like was that the main goal? Because if it was to win a championship, I think he kind of knows that that's a long shot there at Southern Cal. But there's also the.

Long shot at LSU. It's a long shot at ten, I mean, but it's a lot.

Closer at LSU than it is that they are. Or you go to manage, you could go somewhere and I know you're just wanting LSU, but you could go somewhere and put yourself up for an opportunity to now make money. But what a championship. But I do think for an overall narrative standpoint, this is a kid that transferred multiple times in high school. I believe that already transferred once in college transfer again, this would have.

Been his left would have been his seventh transfer in seven years had he actually transferred.

I don't open that there. It sits well in the NFL. I'm just gonna throw it out there.

A lot of people saying that this is just a play to in the chier now, that this is just a play to get more money, you know, cynically, I wouldn't doubt that. Also, the rumors were never uber concrete, right, like maybe some displeasure was voiced and then uh, it kind of spun out of control, Like I'm not one thousand percent convinced that he got more money or that he did this just for more money, although I'm not naive enough to say that he didn't. Also, so we don't know. So I guess all that does matter is the actual fact the matter, which is bear Alexander saying he is staying put at USC, which is big for Danton Lynn and that entire USC defensive staff as they look to try to write what was an awful defense last year, better than Elshoes, but an awful defense nonetheless. Okay, he says, rest in peace to usc legend O J. Simpson. It's very dom cleman energy in terms of framing that O. J. Simpson passed away. He died right before, in terms of when it was announced that he passed his family a couple of hours ago, right at the end of My morning show, putting out there that at age seventy six, O J. Simpson has passed away from cancer. It's weird to talk about. I was a kid during all the Murder Trier stuff. I remember exactly where I was when the Bronco chase was going down. I would probably be more willing to be nice to OJ or maybe give him some sort of bit of it. Doubt had he not chosen to later write a book called If I Did It that then went step by step how he would have murdered these two people he's alleged estimers like that's pretty fucked up, Like that's that's that's pretty fucking awful. And uh and so the jokes are indeed popping off right now in regards to uh to O J. Simpson.

But uh, there's there's a handful of events that you will remember if you're kind of ye, I would say, right around our age.

And older and all.

Yeah, especially if you're a sports fan in this uh, this definitely being one the white Bronco.

Uh, it does make me want want to rewatch OJ Made in America. I haven't seen that in many years. Maybe the best thirty for thirty documentary there has ever made. Uh right there with the you though you dealing with much less serious uh top kind of subject see sports.

What did it mostly have to do with that the incident?

No, it's it's it's mainly about uh. I mean, I guess it encapsulates all of it, but it's mainly about the crime. Yeah, you obviously have his his football background as the background of who he was and kind of this being this superstar, But no, it's about It's about the crime. How you kind of lean into racial tensions as well some other interesting strategies to get out of said crime. It's worth a watch if you have never seen it before. Chances well he did a good job and naked gun Yeah, I mean he was like America spokesman for for a bit there. It did give us this though one of the greatest Norm McDonald jokes of all time. This is at the SP's back in I guess it's the late nineties because Charles Woodson hit the tape there and.

There's Charles Woodson. How about that I don't want to season. Yeah, I became the first defensive player to win the Heisman Trophy. Congratulations Charles.

That is something that no one can ever take away from you unless you kill your wife and a waider, in which case, before we can begin heaving.

Out of a word secon oh my god god. Also, the the it's it's it's even a bit funnier in the context of Reggie Bush's Heisman also being taken away, because that, like that joke can be expanded to like, yeah, the only way to get taken away is if you murder your wife, waiter, or you writ a home for your mother. I mean it is look the Heisman, the Heisman Trust has, let you know, and the ins like we're drawing a line in the sand. You cannot murder and you cannot get affordable housing for your mother and help you out your family. Uh, based off of your incredible talent and all the money you're making everybody around you. Those are the two things we just cannot original.

All right, let's let's with with the the the Manzell push coming out with Like you know, when we were talking about if if Manzel gets to keep his for blatantly telling everyone that yes, I was, I received money, why I was that call in college station? Do you think Reggie gets back? Like we'll talk like, does Reggie get the heisman back? Eventually?

Zach says, those are equal crimes in my eyes. Does Regie get it back? Uh? He he, I mean, this is one of those things that it's like.

It's so uh, you can't say, you what would ever admit or atleast go to the effort to do it.

We talked about a couple of weeks ago, and I think I and I stand by this. I said, this is objectively probably the single dumbest thing in all of sports, Like go even beyond like the steroid gatekeeping of the Baseball Hall of Fame pit, all this towards the shit, Like, the single dumbest thing I can fathom is Reggie Bush not having his heisman, not just because nobody is morally or ethically offended by him by what he did, right, just getting maybe some benefits and whatnot. But really, because if you accept Reggie Bush's punishment as just, then you have to believe that every other Heisman winner and history never got any benefits, never got a meal, never got a car, never got any homes, never got any of this shit. And then you have guys like Manziel actively out there talking about everything they did get. So it is so fucking dumb. It's dumber than Pete Rose. It is, it is, it is again, it is, I think, the dumbest thing in all the sports. So I don't know how to answer will he get it back? Because I can't fathom that he already doesn't have it back? Like, like, that's what I can't wrap my head around.

What's more likely to happen then going back and taking Manziel's away or them giving Reggie his back.

Ah.

I mean, Menzel's got on this show and said I was getting paid and this is how I duped. Like he lied, he.

Lied, OJ he didd except he's just saying I did do it, and I did hold this narrative.

I mean I remember talking about like, oh, man tell he comes from money. That's why he's able to go to Vegas and party and do this and that, like it's not the fact that he's getting paid. He comes from like this oil family money, and they're like, no, we created that fucking narrative like that was not true. No, like saying he's like from the other side of the truck. He came from a good family, but like not that kind of money family. So he lied to you. He literally lied to the and created this false life so that he could.

Get Okay, so all this money, and in terms of what's more likely, though I do agree with you or I don't agree, I think it has to be more likely that Reggie gets his heisman back for two reasons. First, the NCAA is feckless right, they can't enforce shit anymore. It doesn't seem like all of this would maybe be one area in which they legally could. But also giving Reggie his heis and back is such a pr win. That's what I don't understand about all this. Nobody is going to be upset if you do it. All people are gonna say is yeah, okayrats, goddamn time exactly. So I have to fad and that he'll get it back eventually. But we will see so O. J. Simpson dead at age seventy six, Bear Alexander not transferring, and uh, another random little bit here, Uh did you see the uh did you see Northwestern football? Maybe the surprise Store. We didn't talk a lot about him last year, but probably the big surprised in all of college football full stop, right, I mean Pat Fitzgerald was supposed to be that school's greatest coach. Ever, he was turning in garbage for the last couple of years, really three the last four years, just absolute garbage. And yet when they lost him, it was still like, oh my god, that's the best you're head. Northwest sucks. A're not gonna be shit. They lose him because a really hilariously weird story where the hazing was out of control. Again, I think it's so funny to think about it. If you remember the stories. One of the things they were doing called the Gauntlet, and the scene put on like screen masks and they would like beat you while you were naked, And I'm just laughing so hard because I'm thinking about, like, well, it's just like like you're so tired from practice and you're like, come on, guys, you know what time it is, and like somebody's handing you the ghost face mask and your number classmen, you're like proba, I just want to go play call dude, no, come on now, beat these freshmen like okay, fine, fuck it, put on my Freddy Network. But they should have been awful. And then they went five and four in the Big Ten. Yeah, yeah to Big Ten. And so what how does Northwestern seek to build off of this height? They announced plans to build an unbelievable new stadium. It's gonna be amazing when it's done. But we learned today that in the interim, Northwestern is going to be playing the next two football seasons, uh in their practice facility, at their outdoor practic facility, in which they will have some sort of temporary seating. And if you look at pictures of the practicality, Aaron, I don't know that you can get like more than like five thousand, I mean like like five thousands, maybe even pushing it like it is legitimately going to be like like a big high school game for the next two years going to home game at Northwestern.

It's gonna be on It's gonna be on Lake Michigan though, So it should be nice, it should great setting, great setting. How many people were they getting to the games in the first place, Like, were they really stress about getting fans in the stands?

Well, it depends, right if you hit let's say ten thousand, that's kind of acceptable to me because then that could be a pretty intimate fun environment. I mean, to your point, that's not nobody or would you play? You know what I'm saying if you eat ten thousand at that field, if you get to the site.

Like, where are you going to find a place even if it wasn't on campus location to get unless you're gonna play at Soldier Stadium?

No, no, no, sorry sorry. What I'm saying is the practice facility, like you said, is located in a beautiful setting right there on the lake. It looks awesome. If you can get ten thousand people on that practice field, that's actually kind of tight. You have to build something though, I mean bleachers, I don't know, temporary bleachers, I don't know.

I mean, I'm sure ten thousand seats for temporary bleachers.

Yeah right, I think you're like fairy.

Tale Land, Like, Okay, in the next four months, we have to build a ten a miniature ten thousand. I guess they do it for hell, they do it for the damn golf ferm and I was just out there in Phoenix, like I thought that was all year long. They build that stadium, that mini stadium leading up to the tournaments.

I believe that Northwestern, the money that they have, they could have smart people that they have know that they can they can put up something temporary that should be able to hit a respectful The thing is, if you hit ten thousand, then it maybe becomes kind of cool because it's a beautiful environment, it's intimate, uh that way, it's full for whatever that's worth. But if you're talking about like five thousand people, then that just becomes a little sad uh in my opinion. But here's to hoping why am I blakeing on the on the head coach's name arguably should have been Coach of the Year last year. Here's so hoping that he can deal with this because this is kind of a bad break as you would want to build off of what was a again a just wildly successful year run compared to what your expectations are going to be. Gonna be hard to recruit to say, hey, come here for two years play in this bullshit, but then after that you will be playing in like a top.

It's like Vanderbilt. I mean, I had a game last year in vander But you go to Vanderbilt Stadium is there's construction, there's a crane holding up the jumbo tron, and then ninety percent of the stadium is a way away fans.

Yeah, it's a.

Worst environment to cover to host a college foot player who's a tougher job Northwestern's coach or clarkli at Vanderbilt of hosting a recruit during this transition period within a stadium. Would you rather have Vanderbilt with which can hold more people but ninety percent of it's away fans still constructions everywhere, or Northwestern where it's five thousand of your own fans in like little mini bleachers.

I actually think that Northwestern is still tighter. I think I mean again, five and four in the Big Ten last year, so already just way more competitive than is Vanderbilt within their conference. And uh, both cities are cool, like Chicago Nashville. I'll call that a wash, although Chicago's kind of one of the great old school American cities, whereas Nashville is kind of like the new kid on the block. But but yeah, I think Northwestern simply because they're more competitive. It's easier, it's going to be easier to recruit there, and your options surrounding you are the Big ten. It's like maybe Chicago has a lot more allure compared to some of these other big ten cities than does Nashville compared to some of these other sec UH settings. So you know, I'm kind of thinking about this. Soldiers live unt Head. Somebody says, why not play it shoulder Field. See, I think that would be a mistake because you play at Soldier Field and you play no, you felt like fifteen k that's gonna feel so fucking sad.

Like ideally soccer stadium like golf stadium, yes, which I think like a school like Vanderbilt, which I've I've said this to like my boy c the Childers who lives there. I was like, why didn't Vanderbilt just do that? Knock it down, go play at the soccer stadium for a year to build a similar soccer stadium on campus twenty five thirty thousand, super intimate on top of you, Like for those who watched like the XFL, the the the team in Washington, DC, they played in the soccer stadium and it's also great. Yeah, they think the credible environment, like, that's what a Northwestern should do. That's what our Vanderbilt should do. Twenty to thirty k on top of you, very fun vibes, but just not doing it.

That's well.

I mean, the way you can get Vanderbilt fans or at least the city of Nashville on board with Vanderbilt football.

But I mean, who knows if the MLS team wants to do it, right, I mean, I'm sure they pack it out already, Like, I'm sure it's a way more successful ticket than is Vandy. Why do you want to let Vandbilt fuck up your field and stuff?

Yeah? Most of those are turf though, do.

They play on turf in the MLS? I'm sorry, guys, I don't watch a ton of MLS. I like, I really like soccer. Yeah, that's because they play in the mercedity has been that's right. Yeah, that makes sense. Now that was crazy. I don't know if the atl United still are, but a few years ago where they were on the championship run and they're packing it out seventy three k they take him yeah, oh yeah, I mean nobody goes to the Falcons get true.

Also left.

Yeah, not since the cannon left. I mean, who can forget that final three and thirteen season? Now who on the start of the majority of that or was it? I don't remember. T Bob always looks like he's up to something, well, because generally I am. I always have something percolating in the background. Zack says Saint Louis had like forty five K for the UFL XFL game. Yeah. To be clear, the battle Hawk fan base in Saint Louis is awesome, and it's because they feel slighted. Also, Saint Louis, despite not having a big population, they're right there with New Orleans. There's not a lot of people. I mean in the actual city itself. I think you're looking at around like and I'm you know again, I could be wrong here. I'm just coming on memory. I think you're looking at around like five hundred thousand. Maybe get into like one to two million if you're talking about this greater.

Saint Louis and area six thousand.

Okay, and then give me like a greater Saint Louis areas two million, okay, two million. There you go. So that is a thing where like those you're not supposed to be able to support that many professional teams with those numbers. But I saw some the other day between like a Blues game, the UFL game, and Cardinals game. They head over two hundred thousand fans go to sporting events in one weekend. I mean, Saint Louis is sports crazy and they have latched on to the BattleHawks and my other QB one I do shows with AJ Mccaerron, you know, I mean, Aaron, where are you at? Dude? Come on, bro, great tea.

BOP's gonna just leave me for AJ.

Shepherd, Ducks, Chip Kelly at Ohio State Urbans at Oregon right now? Wait, hold on, Urbans at Oregon? What'll be talking about?

What? What does that mean?

Belly's at Washington right now? What the fuck is going on? Boys? Legendary coaches? Oh okay, okay, okay, Urban must be busiting, because I did see this. Did you see Bill Belichick at Washington practice the other day? Yeah? You know, full you dockey out here?

Yeah?

Yeah, So he's saying, Kelly Oaho State Urbans at Oregon. Now, Belichick's at Washington, What the fuck's going on? Legendary coaches has some interesting spots yeah, I think, well it's Chip Kelly thing. Obviously, that's like in an actual coach.

Belichick's son's coaching at Washington.

Now, oh that's right. I forgot he's the d C.

Yeah.

Okay, so that that that that makes sense why that's going down. I gotta be pretty cool if your Washington player though up to have Bill Belichick hanging around practice to the goat and all the insight that you could get there. In Texas, Rock says AJ greater Aaron, greater than a j Yeah, that's one boy.

What do you think Saban's going? Obviously he's going, But do you think he's on the field for a day up in the box somewhere staying away? You think he's front center attention.

I think he has to go to the game. I think he has to go to the game. I'm saying, you go to the game.

But do you think he's on the field.

Do you think he's in No? No, no, no, he's in a box. Okay, he's in a swite First.

I would hope you would do that too, just to like get the attention off of him. Let the game happen. He's on the field, all attention.

I was going to say it is a psychopath move and Nick Saban is on the field for the Alabama spring game like that. Yes, no, exactly that one that that is. Do you think that he'll be in the booth? I think for most of that. As Nick Saban joins college game day and looks to transition a bit, he has to be a little careful with how involved he's gonna be with Alabama on the day to day.

Do you think.

What do you think?

I think people at least I do, like I respect saving so much. Like if he wants to be a little bit biased to fucking Alabama, like, I could care.

Less, I think I think, I yeah, you probably look. Let me think about how I would answer this.

I truly could care less. If Nick Saban is on game day every weekend picking Alabama to win every time they go around the.

Horn, Yeah, yeah, I mean it is to be expected. Yeah, it is to be a bit expected. There.

I'm gonna trash the man for that. Dude. Well, the smart probably the smartest coaches ever played, you know, coached the game before.

No, I know. I still think, though, if you're gonna be talking about all of college football as a whole, you can't be like actively consulting Alabama's office in the stadium. Herbie loves Ohio State. He's not actively consulting Ohio State.

But he doesn't have the same was herbtree. I don't know the stats, Like, yeah, he doesn't. Yeh was the greatest coach of all time?

Steven I kind of agree with Texas Rocks. I do think that Saban's personality is such that I could see him being like almost wanting to actively fight against people saying, like, when.

Georgia faces Alabama in week four, is he picking Georgia? Is he picking Alabama?

I mean, he can't pick Georgia, right, There's no way. There's no way if he picked Georgia.

I mean, if you're saying, if you're gonna say it like it is, I think we can all agree.

I mean, I can't we bring air. Do you want to play this game again?

Let me just say this. Let's just say for three weeks of the season, George is kicking everyone's ass. They kick Clempson's ass. They look amazing. Course looks like the first quarterback taking the NFL draft, perfect, flawless. Alabama come out and it's just not really click. In the first three games, is he picking Bam or is he picking Georgia? And that in week four?

I think he's still gotta go Obama there d so how he just says, less he goes pull, he'll turn Yeah. No, to be fair, I mean, but like like okay, like like like like Zach says it says, I think Save will be a little biased. No more than does Howard though, Like yeah, like Des Howard's hard bro. When El she was on that twenty nineteen run, you had Ryan Clark, Marcus Spears. I mean, the entire LSU media conglomerate was constantly like fuck you, Joe Burrow, go Tigers.

When it comes to to to broadcasters not not going, you know, putting the fan hat on too much, there's certain people that have to be kind of create that separation from the university because they have to build that credibility up in the media space, like, hey, I'm not a homewerre in my university. I'm truly am for the whatever. Saban does not have to do that. Saban is different, He's unique. He's a unicorn. Saban can be wearing damn Alabama pin on his suit on college game day.

I don't give a damn.

He's the greatest college coach of all time and he coached Alabama and won six national championships there. He can do what he wants because he's gonna give incredible information for two hours and forty five minutes on that show, and then if you want to pick Alabama at the end of it, so be it. I don't care.

VC Collegas says kind of suspicious he has been to take the LSU guys off college coverage after nineteen. Well they actually did it, right. I mean, Spears got upgraded to the NFL Live, which is a way bigger gig. Ryan Clark became one of the main everything guys for ESPN, and Booger actually got put on college after twenty nineteen, right like that. That's what Booger does now is the college. It doesn't have time now. This would be the true LSU wet dream would be of Elis if Saban would pick LSU Overbama. You want to heal the pain of the past for all the Tiger fans that felt so betrayed when he left for Miami and then said he would not be the coach at Alabama. That would be so deeply Uh well, it'd be it'd be funny a lot of ways.

But I think the first time he doesn't pick Bama, I mean, you can't talk shit about him, right, No, no, no, Royal Pain says I bet he isn't on seve of the picks at all.

Year one. Well, then what are we doing? Saving better be picking these games like otherwise what are we doing? Dude? Uh? Nick says I can't take game day seriously after a bunch of those fucks picked Iowa over Michigan last year, Well didn't I what kind of almost beat Michigan? I mean maybe almost beat is tough because they never really had a chance to sit fifty but the game but the score wasn't crazy, no, but.

They never had an opportunity. They never had any legit chances of score points.

Yeah. I mean, look as somebody who played in a game where we didn't cross the fifty, it's not a good feeling. Uh you don't, Yeah, not quite as close as the final score looked.

Go.

Doug says, if Saving ever picks against Bama and wins, they're tearing that statue down Bama flags at half mast. No way, there's no way they're ever tearing that down. All right, let's get into some of our favorite snaps memories and then oh man, we've been going for forty minutes, alrighty sesh and then see so it's just so much fun, guys, and they'll talk about what's next. Aaron to be to reminisce in the past. I never I don't think you understand how nervous I was for the first show that we did here, not even the first live show, the first test show in which the producers and everybody that put together show is going to be watching. And I get the feeling from you that you have this rational self confidence, this this QB one attitude. I don't get a lot of imposter syndrome from you. I deal with a lot of that. And I was so ner I felt like I was gonna have an anxiety attack. I remember, feel like my heart was gonna pull there. I just I think I drank like two or three beers before the show, just to take the edge off, so I wouldn't it be in my head causing myself to have a panic attack. Did you have any such feelings for our first Uh?

Never, never any never, never any sense of nerves. But I will say this because I've always been very bunted up on shows, and as you know, if you're listening to this, we keep it loose, we keep it fun as possible. The first time where I was like have we gone too far? And I always tell people the story when they ask me like hell it we love you, Bob. I mean when I always get the question like how is it working with tea Bob, Like what's it? Like, I'm like, well, I tell this story. This was post phasectomy when someone came on the chat and was like, you know, like why are you so happy that you're you know, you got your nuts chopped off? And T Bob, you go, well, because he can fucking come and his wife whenever he wants and doesn't have to care anymore.

And I'm just like.

Once that line was kind of cross, I was like, there ain no.

Coming back of like we may be kicked off.

YouTube today, Like I was waiting for like YouTube to ban us, us get some notification or from like calm like hey guys, like I like to lose this, but like we can't be talked about coming in our wives over here some sort of repercussion. So but we never got in trouble. So I was like, all right, here we go.

It is honest. So it is honest. What's what's the only why do you get of a seconmy so you can nun in your wife? I mean, I'm just telling like it is. Ro just says, why don't you be so nervous? Isn't on the radio? Yeah, I mean that's what's crazy, right, Like I'm on the radio to you know, objectively, Well, I don't know once you get into download numbers, but a live audience it's way bigger than what we deal with here. But and and I love y'all. Though, by the way, we're gonna talk about how team to grow. But uh that this was kind of and this is why I'm so thankful to the volume and Logan Swaying and uh and con Cowherd and Brumley PG and Chris Jran and everybody else, the whole team. Is that for me, this is kind of my first big career break. This is the first time in which uh uh local yes, yes, exactly right, Like I've been doing local radio since shit, I've been doing a daily local radio show since I was twenty three years old. Because I got a job that I did not deserve. Thanks to who my dad is, and so I'm a NEPO baby, right uh, And everybody's like wow, you know, they're always been a getting possibles. When people were like, oh man, you're really good, Like one day you're gonna you're gonna make it and you're gonna do this or that, and like, I don't know. I was just like, I like and even now, I don't really care about making it. What I want to do is make money to support my three kids of my family, Like that's all I give a fuck about. But I love this show and I have so much fun doing the show. But I was so nervous because I felt like this was the first time somebody bet on me and I didn't want to blow it. And I've had a lot of different partners at this point. Chemistry is a weird thing and normally takes a very long time to develop. And I didn't know what to expect out of Aaron, Right, is this gonna be like your cool quarterback or your douchey quarterback? Again, Like I've said on the show many times, my one thing I knew about Aaron was that he had fucked one of my best friends girls in college. That my best friend that my good friend was in love with, and this is not a man who fell in love ever, and so I did not know what to expect and I was just so pleasantly happy and surprised at how cool Aaron is. Definitely not one of the douchey quarterbacks and just a just instinct chemistry, instinct chemistry.

No, definitely instant chemistry. And I do remember when we were kind of figuring out the show, the question was brought up, like, oh, who's gonna lead? And I was like, oh, lead, you know, let's go give me one status. I got this and every day I'm very grateful that I am not leading the show because you do such a good job about it.

So look and that and that that was one thing that we were sitting down and talking about the show. That was one thing that I was like, that's one thing I told the volume was that's what I want to do, because I mean, I host. I host a radio show every fucking day, right, So like it's like you, okay, shout out chess dot com, right, I just did that broadcast for them, and and that I was kind of playing color. And then after the fact, in our post show meetings, they were like, maybe next time we're going to have you host because like the chess guys they got hosted. Awesome guys, incredible chess knowledge, way beyond anything I have. But if you need me to get you in and out of breaks, I mean I fucking got you, bam. Now granted it. Will you know you're also going to give me control to having conversations about coming in your wife or the other day on hard facts, yeah, bullshit. I saw a story about a couple whose home was rated. They were supposed to be like a really nice, normal family couple, and then the home was rated because the husband got caught following kids around in a store and jerking off real piece of shit. And then on the dude's phone they found a bunch of videos of his wife fucking the family's great dane. She was filming it, Yeah, he was filming it. And there were multiple videos like they did this a lot, even a dog to fund someone. I know. I that's one of those things of just taken for granted, right, like a.

Horse porn, like like how do you how does the animal get that aroused for something that's not their own.

It's a great question because like I understand the old peanut butter thing from high school, right where you saw something peanut butter and the dog's gonna look it off, right. I don't know, Aaron, I just always took it for granted that, yeah, it's a dog. Of course they're gonna want to have sex with the person. But no, I don't understand. You know what's going on, Great Dan just want to have sex with you? Do we really just want to send this show off on the degenerate top? And I mean I guess we would. I guess you have to. You have to kind of jerk off the dog first, like to warm it up. You have to play flupper the dog. Yeah. Anyway, risky run though, if you're gonna let me, that's risk you run, just running and ship like that.

So I would say it is what is today? Today is April eleventh. Football season is four months away. Yeah, I would love to see us get to like twenty five thirty by in the next season.

I think we can do it. I think so too. I think so too. I think we had incredible momentum as sorry now chats just make me laugh. I think we had incredible momentum at the end of the year. The off season has been a bit of a slog, but shout out to hit the fifteen K number. It's ever I'm even feeling it. I'm feeling all my shows right now. It's giving me down a little bit, but it's all good. It is what it is.

It's harder to get to the first fifteen or the next fifteen, you think.

I think there is an inflection point where you start to grow and it kind of tips over. So I don't know if it's the first fifteen or the next fifteen, but I do think at a certain point you garner a number that when people see it, you're like, oh, that's this is like a legitimate show, and so they're more willing to subscribe. Right Like, if somebody has one hundred thousand subscribers, you're probably going to be more willing to click subscribe with that than if they have two. So we are slowly but surely trying to climb that mountain. But yeah, twenty five to thirty k would be would be would be awesome? Yeah, I think doable. Again. I think we've got some very exciting plans for maybe working in some game streaming. Specifically, I want to run a lot of online two v two s Aaron, Me and you a team up online eeho Sports twenty five which we had some news on. Let me bring that up and we can maybe touch on it. But yeah, so I think that's a good goal. And and uh, as in terms of what's next, we're not going to stop the show.

Kades the next baby let's go.

Yeah, that'd be awesome, but we are not going to Uh, we're not gonna stop the show. I mean, our plans are to go straight into next week. You know, we just got to figure out all the technical stuff and we're in the process of there right now. I think production values may change in the short term, maybe be a bit patient with us on the timing of getting stuff up as we do then again into the off season. So it's kind of the time to do this. And uh, and we are shopping it around to be clear as well, So we may end up under another company or banner at some point, or maybe we don't. Right either ways, we're going to Uh. Either way, we ain't going anywhere. And I'm very excited because I believe in this show and it's the most fun that I have and really the best part about this has been to me, and you see a lot of online creators saying this, and it makes sense though, because it's it's intimate. But the best part about this has been the community. Anytime somebody tells me somewhere random that they love Snaps, I mean, he's so happy. I'll never forget the day after Selection Sunday a few months back, when or the day of Selection Sunday, when is Florida Stake going to make it or they're not. I'm driving to Disney, I'll stop at a BUCkies and the fucking manager of BUCkies comes up to me and he's like, dude, what's up. You know. I was like, yeah, man, what's going He's like, oh, I fucking love Snaps.

He's like, I'm a.

Huge Florida State fan. You think we make it? And I'm like, fuck, yeah, you're all gonna make It'd be a high crime if you don't make it. If this selection committee doesn't choose you, college football is broken. Blah blah blah blah blah, all this other stuff. And then I always think about my guy and I hope you're still listening out there, because I like, not an hour later, it came up on the screen that Alabama had made it and Florida State was left out. But that was just such a cool moment as as fresh brisket was on the board here and the manager stop me as a Florida State fan and be like, dude, I'm a massive SNAPS fan. Like that made me. I'm so happy, No, I do, I agree like that.

The community is awesome. Hell I got that. I remember the one time I was I was out golfing is that where we play golf and and some old guy came up to me. He's like, fuck it, like in his eighties and he's like, dude, I love watching you and that crazy motherfucker every day. Hell yeah, this dude watches and he's like, yeah, my you know that daughter son showed me YouTube and now I watch you guys every single day. I was like, hell yeah, we got like dudes in their eighties out here watching us, and uh just made me crack up. So yes, we will keep it live. I think someone of the chad said Thomas said, whatever y'all do, keep it live like that is to me, that is one of the most special parts is interacting with everyone each and every day, seeing the community grow. So that was the special part about, you know, moving from the Volume channel, which was great. So obviously this was T BOP's doing of really pushing like, we need our own channel, we know channel, Having our own channel to build our own audience, that is our audience, not the Volumes audience. I think has set us up to really continue to run pretty hard.

Yeah, that's maybe only one of my only regrets about the entire situation is if we could have moved on that faster, where could we have been, right, Because and that's just a function of all of us being out here in this new algorithmic age in which we live, not fully understanding how all this works, where it's like, yeah, the Volume has five hundred thousand subscribers, but they're there for NBA, NFL Collinsworth or NFL. They're not necessarily there for for college football, which has been more of a niche type of situation anyway. Uh So, I but but whatever, better late than never, right, I don't care. We're gonna live in the President, But I'm super excited about it. I think about it. Look, we we've we we've had a couple of berths, right, Our original producer Ryan Bumley had a little baby boy in the midst to do in this show. I had a child in just awful timing. We had an LSU Georgia SEC Championship in which you could have done all kinds of live shows in f It's in Atlanta, and yet I was in the hospital when it's seeing the birth of my child. It was great, though, I'll never forget it watching USC get rocked by Utah and being pissed about it because I was a big Utah fan and then and so we're gonna keep you live shows and we'll continue to We're gonna try to continue to put up shorts every day, breakout clips or the individual segments because what the analytics show us are y'all the live watchers are very loyal, very awesome, stick around a very long time. But the growth is actually coming from those those those individual videos and the shorts up. So we're gonna keep uh on everyone.

Like I know, we we've talked about doing the gaming. You know, it's that's something we're gonna do with Nancy. The game comes out is do live gaming two v two all that good stuff. Have some fun playing the games, talking shop, talking, you know, talking college football. But like, what do you guys want from us to like this, what yeah, the community like if there are certain things that we could possibly do or talk about, especially the summer when things are a little bit you know stale. Uh, this is our time to really experiment before football season start. So please please let us know.

Do you have a show? I mean both of us getting vasectomies. Uh yeah, oh yeah you should email email uh snaps cf B. That's gonna be the new name of the show if we can get it. We're gonna change it after today. Snaps uh cfb.

Uh.

For all of your uh and for any thoughts that you have on what the show could be. Where could we go good good ideas that you'd want to see, we'll we'll we'll have access to all of that. Royld Painter's movie, slash, TV show, live chat, et cetera. Now, if we ever did end up going like fully independent like Patreon route, I think that could be some interesting stuff, maybe some outside of football discussion. It gets a little weird again with the algorithm about muddying up the waters going too much outside of college football. Now, maybe once the channel gets bigger, we can start to explore uh some more of that. But we'll see but yeah, did you have a favorite show that stands out to you? Aaron? What do you mean like that we did over these past two years? I got a couple, uh Colorado post Colorado TCU was elect.

When I when I almost missed my game, you know, yeah, I mean I was literally sweating my balls off, like when is this game go to end? Because I actually have to go call a game.

Uh.

And then you know you and I end up having an incredible live stream after that Colorado win? Was it first Nebraska?

Was that the game? No? No, it's TCU or TCU Colorado where I.

Literally showed up to my game, Uh, hopefully ESPN's I'm watching this like an hour before kickoff for Sharon drive me and dropped me off, and then she like got stuck in crazy traffic and was like driving my truck, which she freaking hate driving my truck. So I was stressing about her driving my truck through Athens in traffic. The ball for snaps, Uh Yeah.

Shout out to uh pg's mentioning the live show we didn't walk on a couple of years ago. It was very interestingly timed because it was right at the beginning of the show and so not that many people knew about it. We had some people show up, and then we had a lot of people that were just there hanging out and got to see Snaps live. That was a lot of fun. Del Rice says, to go back and look at TV's rant On, Georgia and Bama fans after the Natty, Uh yeah, you know, sometimes got to put them in their place. I think the Ohio State Michigan shows were always very fun as well. For me personally, the show when we had Calling on after National Championship, so you know, kind of wish Papa would have come on maybe again after this one, but uh but after that first one, that was a big moment, uh for me certainly, just kind of professionally having him on and everything else felt validating in uh in many ways. So it's been a fun couple of years. But again, this is just the beginning. This is just the beginning. We ain't going anywhere. If Snaps will continue, If.

Anyone wants to make a Snaps meme coin, because I think meme season is really about to pop off.

Soon, you know, just yes, yes, please please. Uh. Let's that's that's the actual direction we're taking the show. We're gonna be a crypto show that that's gonna be your bonus.

No one really has like the sports memes, you know, so we could be the first just saying.

My favorite time is a teap I'm talking about. Wow, Well, we'll probably do some more like chill streams. I'm even though I've cooled a bit on my World Warcraft Season Discover. Right now, I can feel my hobbies always interchange. I was talking to my wife last night. I think your boy's about to start building and payton some more miniatures. I can't wait go make some Brittonian Army. I got a big box just waiting to be put together at home. But yeah, man, and look, I really cannot thank Pat Gunther, Chris Tran, Danny Carnez, Ryan Brumley, Adam Grossi, a Christian Hunter. Just the entire team of Volume has been so fantastic over this last couple of years, and like I said, life changing in so many different ways. I mean I got an agent because of this show. I never had an agent before, and now I suddenly have somebody out there who's like advocating for me and helping create me. Opportunity obvious as teabop, we're about starting new D and D campaign. What class should I play? I've been ranger, rogue, and Druid. I said it yesterday. I tend to I tend to lean towards magic users and dungeons and dragons because, especially if you like to play a very narrative version of the game, you could just do so much ship with spells as to really feel unlimited. And thank you for that, Aaron, as if you give a damn about what deity.

Maybe maybe this is the great thing when today, of all days, when Bob goes on his rants, I'm just watching the Masters right now, so yeah, he's fine, and I just throw a couples in here as.

People and ship's who's winning right now?

Who is up right now? I don't know who's up right now. I'm watching like a whole four, five, and six. They've been shown like a whole score on watching Fitzpatrick. Uh.

Maybe where I'm at for the next couple of hours, I'm very healthy sounding my boy off.

Let's good.

But uh but yeah, thank you all so much. We love you. Okay, So ways you can help out the show though in the short term obviously again algorithm right, hit the like button, share it with your friends. Anytime you have a high light to view ratio, that naturally pushes out the shows onto recommended channels. So like a lot of the people who watch PET when they get done with a video, YouTube will put our video in there afterwards because they know they're into college football. So that that certainly helps quite a bit. If you listen on pod rating and reviewing always helps. That helps, it gets pushed out as well. And so there's just a couple of freeways that you can help out the boys here. And yes, one day I will get Aaron to do a Dungeons and Dragons one off. We'll set it up, we'll get it. We'll get a dungeon master. Get somebody else in here with us as well. I know part of my take actually has done the D and D thing, and I listened to the first time my friend the other day, and it's pretty it's it's pretty good. It's just fun. It's just so much fun. Anybody can play D and D as well. All right, I think that's it. I think that's it. Thank you so much. We will see you Monday, and again a massive thank you to the volume by Monday. I believe Snap's CFB is the plan on where you'll find it, but we'll continue to update you on Twitter and everything else. But we love you, thank you for being a part of this, and we look forward to the future. We'll see you on Monday.

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Former Georgia QB Aaron Murray and LSU Center T-Bob Hebert team up for a raucous daily college footb 
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