And what about the men who don’t fit neatly into the boxes we create?  

Beaming in from iHeart Studios in New York is documentary filmmaker Eric Leven, who has spent the last several years interviewing married men who secretly have sex with other men. Naturally, we had a few questions…

Join us as we explore the complexity of bisexuality, masculinity, secrecy, male intimacy, and the blurred lines between identity and behavior. Along the way, we share a few of our own stories about meeting married men over the decades. 

From bear chasers and bathhouses to steam rooms, small towns, and the Kinsey Scale, this conversation ventures into some territory that is rarely discussed. Do labels help or hurt? What’s the cost of living honestly? And what about the women caught in the middle of it all? 

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