Dr. Khalil Gibran Muhammad is a professor of History, Race and Public Policy at Harvard Kennedy School and the Suzanne Young Murray Professor at the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Studies. He also wrote "The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime, and the Making of Modern Urban America." He joins Kate and Oliver this week to share what he teaches in his courses, the history of systemic racism in America, slavery, how literature and statistics were used to push narratives, where we go from here and much more.  

Executive Producers: Kate Hudson, Oliver Hudson, and Sim Sarna

Produced by Allison Bresnick

Editor: Josh Windisch

Music by Mark Hudson

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