Sibling Revelry with Kate Hudson and Oliver HudsonKate's Brothers From Another Mother (Part 1)
Kate Hudson is smothered in brothers! She's hanging with her blood brother, Oliver AND her 'Running Point' siblings, Drew Tarver and Scott MacArthur.
Find out how their on-set chemistry turned into a real-life sibling dynamic.
Plus, the one piece of advice Kurt Russell gave Kate about being famous that she'll never forget!
Hi.
I am Kate Hudson and my name is Oliver Hudson.
We wanted to do something that highlighted our.
Relationship and what it's like to be siblings.
We are sibling rail No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth.
Revelry.
That's good. I am so excited right now.
I feel like I wish why I was here too in Boston so I can have all of.
My brothers in my life in one room.
Wow.
This whole idea that they're your actual brothers is crazy.
She's doing what am I doing?
What was Scott MacArthur and Drew Tarvor who play brothers on this this show?
I guess that they do.
Yeah, this show that just got watch.
Like, this is not for me. No, No, I was being considered. I was being considered.
Yeah, my my one of my great friends, Scott MacArthur. You know, I guess got the job.
That's fine.
Actually, just since the row got the job.
Well that makes more sense because.
You would have been a good not right?
Not right?
After seeing that, No, not right, there were definitely like grips caterers there that looked like you. They were actively throwing off production. I was like, I think that's Oliver, like I think he's here actively putting out lights ruining.
Well, now that there's a season two, I mean, I'm right, this is basical I'm making I'm making in our family the.
Pilot episode again and we find out we also have you perfect.
But I will say, though we don't really watch each other's ship for the most part as a family, we don't, you know. But I started the show immediately hooked into it, fucking loved it.
And I'm not just saying that.
I will say that when the second half of the show it just found its legs, well, you texted me the infusion of heart was sort of bang put in and somehow that's what for me made it kind of sore.
And then now I'm in.
I'm in, you know, but it's fucking so great, and it's I'm not saying I'm envious.
But I'm envious awesome.
That it's weird it is.
I think part of what was so nice about the show is that, like if you you know, in the editing process, because everyone is such a pro at improv and writing jokes, there were so many things to have to like sift through to get the right to use the right joke. There was so much material and and and the hardest thing was actually the balance of like because because you're always giving something, you're always giving something. I'm pointing and True and pointing at Scotty and and and Justin and then we'd bring in all these comedians that were giving so much. It was actually like having to take out the best of it and then balance it with it, not always being like, oh, it's just one joke after another joke after another joke.
After you know, who was given the most freedom, do you think to just say what they wanted and do.
It throw.
Quickly? Question? Definitely him, And.
I'm mad I remember because there's a way he was. It was written as such because he was busy. So he came in and we got a bunch of stuff done with him, like the first three or four days, and then then we dropped into really the three of us and the rest of the cast. But but the row is like kind of in in the beginning, and then a lot of his stuff gets isoed because his character goes to rehab. For those who haven't seen it, Yeah, So I thought after the first three days watching Throw work, I was like, all right, we can jam and and he's you know, he's doing as script that he's hitting it all. I'm like, all right, here's a jam fixed. And then like day five shooting a scene and I think my vine was like, excuse me? Can I talk to everybody? And I like walked in and was like excuse me. It was like and you know, ok, it's like Scotty, it's excuse me. And I was like, oh, so.
Every thing was Scotty is his improvs are just too long.
There's a little bit of like you literally one of them point like is this gonna go?
Yeah?
When does this just a slight ramp up into the scene, Like we don't need a full different scene. I mean, but like one of them was like, I'm going to count these skittles on the desk. A lot of it was involving like what is this thing work with that you know that I can make work? Okay?
It's like, wait, what is I'm gonna cat?
Can I stand on the stand?
We don't need we don't need you to Where can I move in this room?
Hopefully nowhere?
Hopefully nowhere?
You stay right there?
Oh god, it's so true.
So how do we Honestly I think that people who had the most freedom were the day players who came into her. Comedians that would that would just like we let them go, you know, whether it.
Be Nicole right, so funny, Travis Bugs, Bonnie Bug, Yeah, Travis Bugs mom, Yeah, just unbelievable.
You know that that you know, kind of just speak to that because we are talking about sibling ship. This is sibling.
Just try.
I want to take a breath. Revelry, go ahead, you got it, hit it, Revelry, go both words.
Listen as much as were you were supporting Reverie, revel revel.
Put it together, same.
Together, King Leon song, Revelry.
Thank you so much, say thank you so much for having me on sibling revel.
Just so much for having men.
Listen, for anyone out there listening. We are not making fun of Scottie. We're laughing at him.
We love him, we are supporting him.
Right, Yes, you guys still have to do that.
Sure does a trigger warning.
I realized you couldn't say revel and this is actually serious.
I'm sorry, sibling sibling with my hands. Okay, I learned this in grad school. Sibling Rebelry, you're saying rebel Yeah, you just got to get that V first is right, you know, so those are called rebels.
Give me a tinkle laugh. Oh god, we have to write.
Welcome back to sibling rebel.
When you went down, I know now, we know, just just oh god, that was.
Great before we get started, like and I don't know what we did, but I just want to Scotty was on our show years ago, one of the first with his brother Hayes. So I just want to start by asking you the question, what is.
Your family's net worth? His grandfather the network.
I texted these two this morning. Second, I gotcha questions come out on fucking.
You said nothing about pronouncing the podcast name. No, no, no, no, no, no, dude.
What I remember from that day is going over there. I had never I don't think I had met I know I hadn't met Kate. And I had sat next to you at a wedding and the entire time you talked to your wife and my wife, despite the fact that I was in between my wife and you, right right, So I was I was like, I don't know this guy that well. But we had mutual friends, yes, enough obviously to be at a wedding together. Yes, And I never met you. You sat on the couch like a cat. I'm pointing at Kate when I say that, and I was like, what is happening?
Was it my cat movement?
Well?
It was weird that like every time Oliver and Hayes went off on a tangent or something, you looked over at me and kind of moved the mic away went. I was like, that'll do it. Didn't get me to open up.
That'll make you, that'll put your I looked at her. Didn't be another cat. You you were a doll.
Yeah, that's yeah. She did cats. I did dogs. It is getting weird, shut down even more. And then it ended in Hayes and I walked out to the car. He's like, how was I was like, I thought that one great?
That what did you actually think that it went great?
I knew it didn't go great when you never aired it, right, it's like, oh, they must have gone great.
I respect why you didn't want to open up. You come from a family and we won't talk about unless you want to talk about it.
But you're in l A. You're trying to make your I just.
Now want to see the People article that says who is.
You're going to come out? But you wanted you wanted to make it on your own ship. You didn't want people to know who you were, where you came from. You know, I get it.
There's some of that. And and I and I'd like to open this up. I will say this, I get very nervous about talking about others because early on in my career I just had a bummer situation where something was misunderstood and context. And it's always made me be like, you know what, dude, just don't talk.
Yeah, yeah, because it doesn't feel good.
It feels horrible, but it's understandable how things can be taken.
Yeah.
But then but then when it happens enough times like it has in my life, you just kind of get over it.
Just like literally it doesn't matter what you take.
Going on.
Yeah, and and and you know, like it's the same thing with like all this stuff, all this stuff online and tweet and more importantly tech right like now we're getting to see all these legality of text messages. M and like when you have no context, you have no tone, you can't read sarcasm, you can't read wink wink. So whenever when there's no context to anything, I think everything falls apart.
Yeah, but that's the business that we're in, and you had a microphone in front of you.
But you guys seem very comfortable with it because hide but you never had a chance to say no, well no, no, no, you know what it is.
No, no, this is a good question. This is a good question. I think. I think that what happens this is in my experience.
Right.
I was so careful about the things that I would say or reveal about my life because it would always end up being a big headline. And and for me, it wasn't even like a headline. It was like the cover of a tabloid.
Right.
So, like you know, and this is before there was like internet craze, So like anything that was happening in my life, in my circle and my friends, like next thing, you know, would be like an US weekly magazine article and be like what is going on and it would be not what really was happening, but the version that people wanted to sell. And so it makes you feel like you can't trust anybody.
It's incredibly violating.
It's all of these things, right, But then you get to a certain point where you have been with enough people that you haven't been with, You've had babies with enough people that you haven't had babies with, you've have, you have, you know you have, you know, you've been told that you have anorexia and you don't. You've been told, You've gone through every single thing that could possibly happen. So you get to the point where you're like, it doesn't matter what I do or say, because it's gonna They're gonna make it up the way they want to anyway.
So as long as is that growth on your end or just desensitized.
Kurt said the best thing to me, which is, you know, I was really upset about something that's going on and it because it was just all wrong. And I was like, I hate this, and he goes, did this feil your name right? And I was like, I mean Pau And he's like, no, it just doesn't matter. If they're spelling your name right, you're doing something right. So I think it has to do some people want to live private lives and all that, but I think that you're going to be constantly fighting it constantly if.
You choose to be doing a profession where you're in the problem.
That's your recognition factor. After the show's air, has it gone up? I was I was.
Street this weekend and a guy drove by and rolled down the window and said.
Go wave, this is the best.
Because really I had to look up what that meant and realized the name of the basketball specific story.
We put that out of my mind ago. That's so fun My lunch lady reached out on Instagram from high school. That's big for me that I needed her endorsement a time we were not already following each other. Now what does she say? It was just like it's great. You know, used to be so funny in the lunch line. You know, she was genuinely lunchline related. Lunch line is huge, huge, it's very big. But like she was always so encouraging and like, I guess would just laugh at me. So like when early on when you're like, oh, I'm am I funny, Like what do you who.
Love to laugh at you? Who you know you can make laugh?
So like that was big.
When I were in New York, man I remember right when we walked out of the hotel, like some dude was like walking in with like your pods the size of Manhattan itself, just walked by the other two just.
Like oh yeah, yeah, I feel it a lot. Yeah, I think the Netflix bump is is very real. Yeah.
I have to say, literally, like two days after the show, we were just walking aroun in New York and going to lunch, and I couldn't believe how many people had already seen the show. Yeah, just saying saw your show, like you know, and it was so nice too, because it was like I haven't had that kind of Yeah.
I was walking the dog last night and I walked by definitely two I think the third, but I couldn't quite remember that scene two houses on my block where you're just kind of walking and you're looking and I could see a TV from the street. That's cool and the show.
Is really good.
That was pretty well well.
I have to say, there's sometimes when you, you know, do something and you don't know like if it's going to be successful or what it's going to be. You're like, okay, we'll see what happens, right, and like some people see it sometimes it's a big hit whatever, but you don't have This was one of those experiences where we had so much fun shooting it that it was just like the hope that people enjoyed it as much as.
We were enjoying the process of.
Yeah, making the show, and and then so the fact that people are actually enjoying it the way we enjoyed each other, it almost feels like something I've never felt before.
Let me ask you guys the question, meaning, so, at what point you guys met was there a moment where it was this is going to work, the chemistry is there. Did it have to be found or was it sort of immediate for me?
And we haven't told this anecdote on the press junket because I think it does need a little context to it. But there was a kickoff dinner with the Warner brother executives and the Netflix executives and Ike and Dave and uh and the three of us, and I was not It was kind of a when you show up, you sit down situation, or That's what I'd like to tell myself, but.
I was not seated.
It was like at the end of the table, yeah, they put they puts on before I've had Yeah, And I was talking to somebody. I was like, this guy doesn't say a word. And then and then he was like, so I just asked if I could clear your bread plate. I was like, Jesus no. And after so then there was some like milling about after the meal, we were in a room and I got a chance to meet Linda Rambis right because I was.
Is Kurt Rambus is white, but who also is Jennie Buss's right hand at the Lakers.
And just runs the show and has been there Benffer Laker's organization since back in the day of doctor Jerry Buss. So, you know, we start talking and I'm like, I can't what it was an incredible organization. I had so many questions and she was, to their credit throughout this whole process. There she was like, fire away, oh, ask anything, like we want this to be fun. And I said, I got to ask you something because it's such a moment in my brain and I would imagine you guys grew up in La. It's a bigger moment when the moment you found out Magic Johnson was HIV positive? What was that?
Like?
Yeah?
Crazy?
And when she started telling talking about it, I was like, I was like.
Like, where were you going?
Like where exactly were you driving? And finally, you know, I I grilled into it was amazing for twenty five minutes on this thing and finally you kind of look up and no one else is in the room, right it's like it's a whole new presidential administration. At that point, I've been going so but I look up and Drew and Kter left at the table, and Kate looks up and she's like, Scotty, what are you doing? Now? Keep in mind the last time I ever talked to her that the podcast, So maybe I was like nervous or something. But I walk over and she goes, what are you doing? And Drew's like, what were you talking about over there? It looks so intense? I said, well, I asked her about when Magic got HIV and Kate just looked at me and went, are you a fucking idiot?
I said that moment, yeah, I think it was like, so we were having so much fun, you were you really led the charge, like making it feel good and fun, and immediately like, well then we went to a bar, yes, yeah, yeah, yea yeah, and Scotty told a story that was a little was like, Scotty, the story is too long half hour at this point, and so like I was like, oh, this is fun, Like you.
Guys crazy because I'm a long story.
Yeah.
Wait, you can't breathe She takes all the air out of the mard.
You had you guys met. We had met at a baggage claim once. That's right, I remember we walked from the baggage claim. You knew we had a mutual friend, Ken Marino, that you guys had worked together.
Maybe we had worked with people. Okay, we had mutual friends. I was sitting next to an actress, uh huh, and I sat down. She was very nice. She had a little dog, and the dog started like immediately like my hand, And as one, I'm very afraid of conflict, so I just let the dog lick my hand for the entire fight Los Angeles, New York. But everybody got on the plane. Everybody got on the plane, and she was like a big deal. She was immediately recognizable, and you you knew her, You guys knew each other because she got so excited when she saw you.
Oh okay, I think it was Lucy. That was Lucy Lucy Hale Hale, Yes, okay.
Lucy Hale. Super nice, super nice dog.
Great dog.
Were you guys like it was like a sun dance thing or something.
You were going back to do the final season of Other two? Yes, yeah, yeah, and I was going for work.
Yeah.
It doesn't make it sound like yeah.
Always anyway he stole that woman's dog. No, But like I just remember, like I was like, we only had like that, you know, ten minutes together and when you got cast and I was like, oh, Baggs Claim guy, Like it's so fun. I love Baggs Claim guy. So we knew each other a little bit and we'd like had a good time walking from Baggage Claim to car.
But did you have to get on to set and start the rehearsal process at least done to know that there was that synergy was all going to click, you know?
And was I?
Yeah?
I think like I think, you know, I we had had so much fun together, like hanging out like at the Baggage Claim, at the dinner, like after the dinner, I was like, oh, this can be really fun. And I think like with Ike, Dave and Mindy on set like knowing how to be like okay, let the let them go there, or like you know, they fostered an environment to let us all kind of have a have a good time.
Something you do that. So so there, you know, there's a hair makeup trailer situation right where all the actors essentially go into one hair makeup trailer and you sit in your various chairs and and that place kind of becomes this refuge, right because the hair makeup.
It's the best spot. Best spot.
Yeah, it's the best spot.
And generally no one's in there giving you work notes, music playing.
It's a good time you you were in that trailer. Yeah, that makes a difference.
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of people who have their own kind of and.
I understand why they do.
Sometimes, Yeah, I love the hair makeup. Trailer also goes down.
I also love sometimes you walk in there. You would be rolling like a conference call or something.
Show FaceTime up to action.
To action. Sometimes you guys as a family FaceTime because.
Well it kind of she's ripped off on me because Kate would always FaceTime meul I was more of a just an analog phone guy. She does the FaceTime and then you're.
Just sitting there. Sometimes she's off on another tangent with somebody else. Sometimes, are you.
Watch It's Frozen, I'm watching this.
Are you in the movie?
Yeah?
Just watch me, watch this.
Watch watch.
I just like to see everybody. I also think that when you FaceTime someone, it makes that like it changes the way that you connect.
With them because you can't do ship.
Well, no, it's because you can see them while they're talking, like you can see their facial expressions, and you know, like it's like you know, it's just the experience is different, you know, if you're like, for instance, if I'm calling you and I'm like I need to you know, look, there's no pressure, but I just want you to know, like I'd love it if you came to the show, but honestly don't if you can't. I totally get it is a different thing when you're on FaceTime than if you text it or call them.
Then it feels like it.
Doesn't feel yeah, I was talking about it has their own ways of doing things, you know, like the voice note, right, like that's someone goes voice Spade Spade early on voice note. Guy Spade would always just voice note, that's it, and then I text him back something small and then a voice.
But you get voice notes on scripts, which is a very frustrating.
Because we can write write your notes.
Oliver is going to meet with somebody and he's going to get a diagnosis of his severe ADHD, which I'm pretty sure I.
Texted you today yesterday.
Looking into.
Signs of it, I think me.
I okay, so good example is technology helps people with ADHD. Him doing a voice note is what he really should do is do the voice note into his notes and then edit his notes and then send them to I don't.
I don't do notes. I just have ideas thoughts.
So that's the kind of put it into your notes, and then you could probably use chat GBT to say, can you write this in a too much.
Much easier like this, Hey, guys, got an idea?
Act Simmer does this so right, so everyone else is the work for.
Him that there is something like to when you take it and you make it writing and you're writing it out, that does make it so official that it's a little too intense sometimes that I relate to, like I relate to the sort of just kind of like maybe this, maybe this is the dialogue of it too. Yes, I like that.
But there's permanence to putting something down, which is an illusion.
Well everything is an illusion to Scott.
It's so at some.
Point everything turns into To go back to the question of the ADHD thing, it seems like it's hot right now. I need to be diagnosed, I think, to maybe understand why I have creatively.
Most have it? You have it between that right now he has?
Do you yes? And it's probably yeah?
No, I mean I wouldn't.
I would say gets Drew can stay cool?
You can stay I think I for sure do he can?
Well, if you do have it, you are more ill.
How long it takes him to get out of bed?
It feels like you're always in bed every time?
Does it take you a long time to get out of bed in the morning?
Yeah, I mean like yeah, yeah, I mean like oh, and it just depends like if I don't have anything to do, it's like what am I doing about? Like why am I punishing myself on purpose?
But you don't have the anxiety of like I should be doing something and just being in bed. I don't like that feeling like I should be doing something.
Well, I think like I'm much better when I am awake, when I'm fully rested, So like if I'm tired all day, does.
That make sense?
Does that make sense? You're Here's the thing. I can either give you good. I can give you a good four hours if I sleep a long time, or I can give you a trash eight because I'm sleepy the whole time.
Do you mean give it like as a person.
Yeah, just as a person, like like I need to put into the world, like like for the napping thing I did well, like that was New York. Like you call me and I was fully in the.
Bed and it's like you're always either in bed getting out of bed.
Well, I don't. I don't like sitting on my couch. I prefer to sit in my straight up bed, okay, because like I don't have a good like prop up foot situation.
On the.
Yeah, I nap a lot, but I like I recharge. I can like get back out of that nap and return to society. Yes, and be good.
You're very active.
Did we say beaver for you?
Oh?
Yeah we did. Animals. We all have animals.
Beaver.
You're very denning, you like you den.
Yes, yeah said he was a beaver? Right are you again? You're a lying a.
Bumblebee, not even like a he doesn't do anything?
Is bumble.
Animal?
What is oliver?
Maybe like a coyote?
No, terrible terrible animals? Oh god, I would say myself.
I don't know.
I would say probably like a hyena.
I'm gonna go sea otter for you.
I like that.
I like otter for you, I'll like on my back.
On my dog, right, he doesn't.
I can't process.
That's true.
It's true though. I like that for Allie. But what I don't really know much about satters.
I don't know.
I feel like they're playing with their face. I usually see them.
Together like amely talenteds tractable right in voice notes, invoice notes, if they have ever to reach their full potential in the creative space.
They're always pitching a script right, party right exactly?
They sell a lot, but nothing ever gets on the air.
I think the one thing, though, that I throw out there is when they're together, when they're with their their pack. That's not the right word for otters, but we'll call a pack. When they're with their pack, they become uh industrious, and they like to break off on their own, and when they're with their own, they crave the company of another.
How do you know that?
Do you know about?
I know you're everyone's homies now, but was there an actual sibling feeling to it? I know you say yes, blah blah, but was there really like a sibling quality or was it kind of like we just connect and we're playing siblings or was.
I think the comfort of being able to make fun of each other pretty early on and feeling safe right that that that felt, sibling asked to me, I mean, that's why I just spent the weekend with my older brother. And that's what we're doing. You know, We're we're ragging on each other, We're having fun with each other, We're ragging on our cells.
M M.
And that I think that's a trust. I think I think we had that pretty soon.
I feel like, like any I feel like I really can fall into sometimes like I'm the oldest and sometimes I can like I like, you're like a few years older than me, so like I really like to fall into like younger brother energy sometimes like and I really immediately felt that with you, Like I want Scotty to think I'm funny. I want to make him laugh, like same with you, Kate, Like I was just like I want to I want to like do well and have fun. So I think there was like and I do that with my siblings, Like I'm constantly trying to make them laugh. What do they like? What kind of humor do they like? How is it different? That's interesting?
So it's almost the character dynamics, you know, is what sort of is how you're infusing that sibling dynamic is yeah.
Like status, right, it is constantly like in a sibling relationship, you're kind of like trying to figure out who fits where.
And it changes depending on who's in the room. Right, I mean you guys have multiple siblings, like like it changes. Right, I'm a middle brother, right, I have an older brother and a younger brother in real life, like you played different roles or even like I was just with my older brother Saturday night. You know, we go out for some pops. We have a friend in a band he's playing. You know, it's like, oh, he's coming out hot tonight. Yeah, right, Like we're grabbing beer. Okay, he's coming out hot, So I'll kick back for a second. But if he's kicked back, then I'm like, fuck it, he's kicked back. I'm coming out real hot man.
And I think that between the writing, which was so well written, the dynamics were so well written already, and then we fit into those dynamics so well that like it immediately turned into oh, that's that brother for me, and you're that brother for me, and that's that brother and vice versa.
So it's like fluid it was created itself.
It's like it's like the way he behaves in certain moments and it's not dissimilar, Like we were all cast so well for what we're doing. Like yeah, it's not so I mean obvious, we're playing characters, but it's it's like his character that they're writing from, they know him so well, like they're going to lean into the things that they want Scotty to do so well, and like there's an element of that when we're dealing with Scotty and he goes on a tangent where him and I become it's like, okay, here we go. And so it's it's always written and yet there's something kind of like fluid as the world about.
His character has their comedic thing, but they're not too charactery to where they can't straighten another character immediately.
Right, and had trouble with that.
I don't know if.
Ollie this is We're gonna have to We're got to break this one up because we're going on so long.
Because it's like I love talked about but that's the beauty of these idiots.
He's still here, actually here, He's still here.
I'm supposed to cut into a kid at one, I'm already eleven minutes late, so they're going to have to forget how.
You guys are hurt. Anyway, we're going to break this thing up.
Scot hasn't left.
