In this episode, we speak with David Grandy, FACHE, CMPE, who leads Kaiser Permanente’s Delivery System Design and Innovation practice. Join David and host Jeff Gourdji as they discuss the benefits – and complexities – of expanding an integrated model of care, growing care outside the four walls of the hospital, and…roller coasters!

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