Given Rudy Giuliani’s dramatic rise from tough-on-crime New York City mayor to revered 9/11 leader—and his subsequent fall into legal and political controversy—the hosts examine the complexities of his legacy. With President Trump’s recent announcement to award Giuliani the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the hosts explore whether the former mayor’s career still reflects the honor’s ideals. The show concludes with an interview featuring Brad Wyman, producer of Monster and other cult classics, alongside Robert Boris, acclaimed screenwriter of Electra Glide in Blue. Boris discusses his new sci-fi novel Black Sun: Day of the Humanoid, which is being developed into a feature film—adding author and futurist to his storied Hollywood résumé.