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Hour 2: Bishop Alfred L. Phillips on Community & Faith | Beth Heller Gelles on the College Admissions Crunch

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The second hour opens with Bishop Alfred L. Phillips, pastor of Sheepshead Bay United Methodist Church and founder of the Sheepshead Bay Community Development Center, reflecting on faith, community, and decades of hands‑on work supporting youth and neighborhood stability.  The show closes with Beth Heller Gelles, author of Crazy for College, who unpacks the pressures, myths, and modern realities shaping today’s college admissions landscape.

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