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Hour 1: The Grammys Flashpoint | Patrick Payton on the Quiet Majority

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Episode 83 tracks how the Grammys became a flashpoint for debates over representation and cultural power. As the country confronts intensifying scrutiny of ICE and its enforcement practices, the hour situates the awards show within a broader national reckoning over who is protected, who is marginalized, and who gets a platform to speak. The hour concludes with an interview featuring Patrick Payton, a civic leader who argues that America’s “quiet majority” still holds the power to mend a fractured nation. In The Middle: How the Quiet Majority Can Mend a Divided Nation, he lays out a grounded, practical roadmap for restoring trust, rebuilding civic unity, and reclaiming common purpose.

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