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Thank you, New York. Today we're reminded of the power of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on your mark.

Thank you, New York. Today we're reminded of the power of community and the power of coming together. Athletes, on your mark.

The first woman to finish for the second straight year here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling Miki Gorman, and why not? 2: 29:30, the time for (inaudible) .

The first woman to finish for the second straight year here in the New York City Marathon is Miki Gorman, a smiling Miki Gorman, and why not? 2: 29:30, the time for (inaudible) .

Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to the line.

Look at the emotion of Shalane Flanagan as she comes to the line.

Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA he so proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Matt Jablonski.

Pointing to his chest, pointing to the USA he so proudly wears across his chest. A great day for Matt Jablonski.

Hey everybody, welcome to the Set the Pace Podcast. I'm Olympian, Carrie Tollefson, and a member of the broadcast team here again in the city for the United Airlines NYC Half. And I am really excited to bring you our race day champions. I'm bringing on four of our champions, Sharon Lokedi, Abel Kipchumba, Manuela Schär, and Geert Schipper. I know I didn't say that right. It's GB, he told me I could say GB. So here we go. Let's get it underway. All right, I'm here with the winner of the men's wheelchair for the second year in a row.

Hey everybody, welcome to the Set the Pace Podcast. I'm Olympian, Carrie Tollefson, and a member of the broadcast team here again in the city for the United Airlines NYC Half. And I am really excited to bring you our race day champions. I'm bringing on four of our champions, Sharon Lokedi, Abel Kipchumba, Manuela Schär, and Geert Schipper. I know I didn't say that right. It's GB, he told me I could say GB. So here we go. Let's get it underway. All right, I'm here with the winner of the men's wheelchair for the second year in a row.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Geert.

Geert.

Geert.

Geert.

Geert Schippert. We were saying it Gert.

Geert Schippert. We were saying it Gert.

Gert (inaudible) .

Gert (inaudible) .

I want to say Schippert because of Geert. So Geert Schipper.

I want to say Schippert because of Geert. So Geert Schipper.

Geert Schipper, but whatever the way you pronounce it, I think it's okay.

Geert Schipper, but whatever the way you pronounce it, I think it's okay.

Do you know what you said though today in the post- race interview was people can just call you GB.

Do you know what you said though today in the post- race interview was people can just call you GB.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So where does GB come from?

So where does GB come from?

Gerard Bastiaan, that's my (foreign language) . What is it?

Gerard Bastiaan, that's my (foreign language) . What is it?

Your middle name?

Your middle name?

Middle name, yeah.

Middle name, yeah.

So in America here where most of our listeners are, well, we have them international, but most here, do you want to become GB? Because you are winning all these major races over here? Would you rather have us figure out how to say your name right or call you GB

So in America here where most of our listeners are, well, we have them international, but most here, do you want to become GB? Because you are winning all these major races over here? Would you rather have us figure out how to say your name right or call you GB

GB is fine to me, but don't see me as a big winner or just leave me in the shadow. I don't like media stuff. I just do what I do, what I like to do, and that's sport moving from one place to the other one and improve myself every race or every training. That's the reason I try to compete in competitions. And the last couple of years I had to compete with all the best guys of the world to make sure that I can still improve myself a little bit. So that's the reason I race, not especially for winning. Winning of course gives a way better feeling than become second, third, or fourth, like the Paralympics in Tokyo. But improving myself, that's for me more important.

GB is fine to me, but don't see me as a big winner or just leave me in the shadow. I don't like media stuff. I just do what I do, what I like to do, and that's sport moving from one place to the other one and improve myself every race or every training. That's the reason I try to compete in competitions. And the last couple of years I had to compete with all the best guys of the world to make sure that I can still improve myself a little bit. So that's the reason I race, not especially for winning. Winning of course gives a way better feeling than become second, third, or fourth, like the Paralympics in Tokyo. But improving myself, that's for me more important.

Yeah. Today you said you didn't think you were going to be the one to break the tape.

Yeah. Today you said you didn't think you were going to be the one to break the tape.

No, no. Actually, yesterday I was doing a training ride with Evan Correll and somewhere in the park, you've got some hills and he was pushing up the hill like I was standing still and I was like, " Damn." And I don't know tomorrow, you've got quite a lot of hills, or at least up and downs. So, I was pretty afraid. And also the first of the 300 meters from the start, you start going up already and he was pushing away. I was like, " Uh- oh. Oh boy." And then in the downhill I was slightly faster, and then the second uphill, he was still on my tail, but I was still afraid. And he's a young guy and what I really hope that he will pass me, hopefully I can start next year, but that he will pass me next year or at least the year thereafter. And not only him, but also way more younger guys.

No, no. Actually, yesterday I was doing a training ride with Evan Correll and somewhere in the park, you've got some hills and he was pushing up the hill like I was standing still and I was like, " Damn." And I don't know tomorrow, you've got quite a lot of hills, or at least up and downs. So, I was pretty afraid. And also the first of the 300 meters from the start, you start going up already and he was pushing away. I was like, " Uh- oh. Oh boy." And then in the downhill I was slightly faster, and then the second uphill, he was still on my tail, but I was still afraid. And he's a young guy and what I really hope that he will pass me, hopefully I can start next year, but that he will pass me next year or at least the year thereafter. And not only him, but also way more younger guys.

Yeah, you want.

Yeah, you want.

That's what I want.

That's what I want.

And you want more people pushing you to the line.

And you want more people pushing you to the line.

The more competitive everybody is, the more fun the competition is. But those guys are young and they have to learn, or maybe not learn but need a bit-

The more competitive everybody is, the more fun the competition is. But those guys are young and they have to learn, or maybe not learn but need a bit-

More experience.

More experience.

... race-

... race-

And race, yeah.

And race, yeah.

... endurance. And I think the next coming years I can do a step back or maybe quit in total and hopefully they take over what I am doing at the moment.

... endurance. And I think the next coming years I can do a step back or maybe quit in total and hopefully they take over what I am doing at the moment.

So, okay, today you won and you're talking about Evan who is 21?

So, okay, today you won and you're talking about Evan who is 21?

I have no clue, but he's young-

I have no clue, but he's young-

He's one of the youngest, I think he's 21. I think we had a 19- year- old in the wheelchair division. But Evan Correll is 21. You're fairly new. I mean we know... Well, a lot of us know your background in triathlon. So you are obviously on the roads doing some racing, but you're fairly new to this half- marathon, marathon distance, correct?

He's one of the youngest, I think he's 21. I think we had a 19- year- old in the wheelchair division. But Evan Correll is 21. You're fairly new. I mean we know... Well, a lot of us know your background in triathlon. So you are obviously on the roads doing some racing, but you're fairly new to this half- marathon, marathon distance, correct?

Yep, that's correct.

Yep, that's correct.

Yeah. So when you speak to a runner like me, when you come to the sport later, you're a little bit more fresh, you don't have as much wear and tear. Is that the same for you? I mean why are you giving it, not giving it to Evan, but you're saying like, you want him to catch you, you're still pretty new in here.

Yeah. So when you speak to a runner like me, when you come to the sport later, you're a little bit more fresh, you don't have as much wear and tear. Is that the same for you? I mean why are you giving it, not giving it to Evan, but you're saying like, you want him to catch you, you're still pretty new in here.

Yeah, maybe in my heart, maybe the biggest winner, I just do what I like to do as fast as I can. And yeah, I'm new in the sport, but when you look through my history before I had my accident and then shortly after my accident, the way I can perform in sport, we did some tests, and my genes are already really good to do endurance competitions and trainings like this. And further, the way how you train is important and maybe the variation in the three disciplines I do in triathlon gives me also a bit more endurance for doing wheelchair racing. But it is still painful in my back, in my legs, in my... It seems that I race like pain- free or that it's really easy, it isn't. Not for me, not for (inaudible) , not for even Evan. It's always painful.

Yeah, maybe in my heart, maybe the biggest winner, I just do what I like to do as fast as I can. And yeah, I'm new in the sport, but when you look through my history before I had my accident and then shortly after my accident, the way I can perform in sport, we did some tests, and my genes are already really good to do endurance competitions and trainings like this. And further, the way how you train is important and maybe the variation in the three disciplines I do in triathlon gives me also a bit more endurance for doing wheelchair racing. But it is still painful in my back, in my legs, in my... It seems that I race like pain- free or that it's really easy, it isn't. Not for me, not for (inaudible) , not for even Evan. It's always painful.

Yeah, there's always something, right? If it's not, for the runners, their feet, their back, their glutes, whatever, it's your guys' shoulders or your abs like you said, or your back-

Yeah, there's always something, right? If it's not, for the runners, their feet, their back, their glutes, whatever, it's your guys' shoulders or your abs like you said, or your back-

Most of the times, it's not your shoulders or your arm, it's most of the time the pain in your back or your legs or it sounds crazy, but not the joints you used as much you think during the run, but maybe the joints and the muscles, you won't use that much.

Most of the times, it's not your shoulders or your arm, it's most of the time the pain in your back or your legs or it sounds crazy, but not the joints you used as much you think during the run, but maybe the joints and the muscles, you won't use that much.

Sure.

Sure.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sure. Tell me a little bit, just walk us back to your injury. Tell me how you got injured again.

Sure. Tell me a little bit, just walk us back to your injury. Tell me how you got injured again.

In 2004, I was flying my own single engine airplane for the first time, that typical airplane. And I was approaching and I didn't have enough attention on my approaching speed, so I flew slightly slow already, and then a particular moment too slow, I stalled, made a little dive and then right turn, and instead of making my landing straight ahead in front of me due to the turn, I made a crash landing into the field just beside the little airfield in France, broke my back and yeah, that's pretty much it. Then you think, okay, I've got a lot of pain in my back, just help me out the rest of my airplane. There was nothing left actually. And then I walk away, but I noticed my foot was kind of in a rear position and my knee was not pointing to my face, but pointing to my other knee. I was like, " Oh, that's not good. Maybe it's broken." But I didn't have pain in my legs. I only had an awful pain in my back. So after one hour, the first ambulance was there, they had some troubles to find it, and I was in a field which not easy to reach. And they told me, " Okay, just lay still and wait for another ambulance." And finally they put me on a stretcher, drove me out of the field to the hospital, and flew me to another hospital. And then they told me the next morning after my operation, " Okay, you never can walk again, you broke your back. And you've got some movement back in your legs in the nearby future, you'll be lucky, but walking and standing and biking, the stuff you've done before, you will sit in a wheelchair for the rest of your life." And that came in pretty hard. But after six days in France and a few days in the Netherlands, all the drugs I get for making the pain kind of doable, I didn't need it so much. So my girlfriend told me, " There will be a good life with you with a chair as well." And we found a good life.

In 2004, I was flying my own single engine airplane for the first time, that typical airplane. And I was approaching and I didn't have enough attention on my approaching speed, so I flew slightly slow already, and then a particular moment too slow, I stalled, made a little dive and then right turn, and instead of making my landing straight ahead in front of me due to the turn, I made a crash landing into the field just beside the little airfield in France, broke my back and yeah, that's pretty much it. Then you think, okay, I've got a lot of pain in my back, just help me out the rest of my airplane. There was nothing left actually. And then I walk away, but I noticed my foot was kind of in a rear position and my knee was not pointing to my face, but pointing to my other knee. I was like, " Oh, that's not good. Maybe it's broken." But I didn't have pain in my legs. I only had an awful pain in my back. So after one hour, the first ambulance was there, they had some troubles to find it, and I was in a field which not easy to reach. And they told me, " Okay, just lay still and wait for another ambulance." And finally they put me on a stretcher, drove me out of the field to the hospital, and flew me to another hospital. And then they told me the next morning after my operation, " Okay, you never can walk again, you broke your back. And you've got some movement back in your legs in the nearby future, you'll be lucky, but walking and standing and biking, the stuff you've done before, you will sit in a wheelchair for the rest of your life." And that came in pretty hard. But after six days in France and a few days in the Netherlands, all the drugs I get for making the pain kind of doable, I didn't need it so much. So my girlfriend told me, " There will be a good life with you with a chair as well." And we found a good life.

I guess so.

I guess so.

We found an awesome life. There were doors closed due to my accident, but there were so many doors get open again. And one of the doors is I found in sport.

We found an awesome life. There were doors closed due to my accident, but there were so many doors get open again. And one of the doors is I found in sport.

Yeah. Sport before the accident looked like what?

Yeah. Sport before the accident looked like what?

It was just regular, whatever, you know what I mean?

It was just regular, whatever, you know what I mean?

Yeah.

Yeah.

On a bike, I was ice skating, I did some swimming, I did some running-

On a bike, I was ice skating, I did some swimming, I did some running-

Okay. Okay. Just everything.

Okay. Okay. Just everything.

... inline skating. Just after my job as a carpenter at that time, just do some sportive things, but never ever with the idea to do it in bigger or bigger competitions.

... inline skating. Just after my job as a carpenter at that time, just do some sportive things, but never ever with the idea to do it in bigger or bigger competitions.

So life has changed in so many different ways.

So life has changed in so many different ways.

Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Yeah.

And-

And-

And there is always light.

And there is always light.

Yeah, there is always light. And it's really good for you to remind us because you've been through a lot, but we're so thankful that you have used that athletic background and now have become one of the world's best wheelchair athletes and triathletes.

Yeah, there is always light. And it's really good for you to remind us because you've been through a lot, but we're so thankful that you have used that athletic background and now have become one of the world's best wheelchair athletes and triathletes.

For you, it's maybe that I'm one of the best, but I don't feel like one.

For you, it's maybe that I'm one of the best, but I don't feel like one.

Well you are.

Well you are.

I'm just a guy. Believe me.

I'm just a guy. Believe me.

Well, you're just a guy, but I think what's really cool is that you brought one of your three girls, one of your three daughters.

Well, you're just a guy, but I think what's really cool is that you brought one of your three girls, one of your three daughters.

Yes.

Yes.

Was your girlfriend at the time when you had your accident-

Was your girlfriend at the time when you had your accident-

Yes.

Yes.

... is she now your wife?

... is she now your wife?

Yep.

Yep.

Oh my goodness. You guys, what a love story. So you have one daughter here who's 12, you said in quotation marks, she's " sick" from school.

Oh my goodness. You guys, what a love story. So you have one daughter here who's 12, you said in quotation marks, she's " sick" from school.

Yes.

Yes.

She took a couple of days off from school. So tell us a little bit about bringing her over.

She took a couple of days off from school. So tell us a little bit about bringing her over.

She's 12. You've got a girl from 12, they already a woman, she is kind of in between. Moments, she's still a kid and the other moments, she's kind of a young adult and she act like it, but it is fun to walk with her here. Yesterday, we went into the park and we were feeding the squirrels. And she's sitting on her knees and hold her hand with some peanuts and the squirrels come there and it's so adorable to watch, see my girl doing that in her pink jacket. And we walk over the Times Square and then she's just-

She's 12. You've got a girl from 12, they already a woman, she is kind of in between. Moments, she's still a kid and the other moments, she's kind of a young adult and she act like it, but it is fun to walk with her here. Yesterday, we went into the park and we were feeding the squirrels. And she's sitting on her knees and hold her hand with some peanuts and the squirrels come there and it's so adorable to watch, see my girl doing that in her pink jacket. And we walk over the Times Square and then she's just-

In awe.

In awe.

... watching and seeing and noticed everything what I usually see as well. It is fun. It is so much fun.

... watching and seeing and noticed everything what I usually see as well. It is fun. It is so much fun.

She came in here. Can I ask her a question?

She came in here. Can I ask her a question?

Oh, hi. Yeah, of course you can ask a question.

Oh, hi. Yeah, of course you can ask a question.

What was it like to see Dad win today? Was it pretty cool? Did you get to see him in Central Park?

What was it like to see Dad win today? Was it pretty cool? Did you get to see him in Central Park?

Yeah.

Yeah.

What is-

What is-

You're a little shot.

You're a little shot.

That's okay. What was New York, what is the big city like?

That's okay. What was New York, what is the big city like?

(foreign language) . Is it nice?

(foreign language) . Is it nice?

It was good.

It was good.

yeah,

yeah,

It was fun, isn't it?

It was fun, isn't it?

And are you the oldest of the three girls?

And are you the oldest of the three girls?

No, I'm the middle.

No, I'm the middle.

You're the middle child. Oh. So are you the first one to come to New York City with your dad?

You're the middle child. Oh. So are you the first one to come to New York City with your dad?

No, here's my mother and then my older sister and now me.

No, here's my mother and then my older sister and now me.

Oh, okay. Well congratulations and thanks for letting dad do his thing. Now, you guys get to go out and have some fun.

Oh, okay. Well congratulations and thanks for letting dad do his thing. Now, you guys get to go out and have some fun.

Thanks.

Thanks.

Well, tell me a little bit more about your spring. What do you have going on now after this?

Well, tell me a little bit more about your spring. What do you have going on now after this?

I've got a few days off. This afternoon, we fly back to the Netherlands. So tomorrow early in the morning we arrive, I make a short sleep. Maybe in the afternoon, I go to the pool to get myself-

I've got a few days off. This afternoon, we fly back to the Netherlands. So tomorrow early in the morning we arrive, I make a short sleep. Maybe in the afternoon, I go to the pool to get myself-

Loosened up a little bit.

Loosened up a little bit.

Yes. Not only for loosen up, just make sure you won't do nothing.

Yes. Not only for loosen up, just make sure you won't do nothing.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And when you do nothing, you get really tired. Just take a little exercise to make sure you've done something on a day. So I probably go to the pool and maybe go on my bike for an hour or two, but only an easy spin and an easy swim, no rush. Then in three weeks, I go to Paris for the Paris Marathon. Thereafter, I go home for a few days, then I fly to Boston for the Boston Marathon, go home for two days, then back to London for the London marathon, two weeks off. Training as fast and as good as I can for the first triathlon competition in Japan. And then there's a few more triathlon competitions, one in Italy and one in France. And in the meantime, I'm also moving from one place to another place. So-

And when you do nothing, you get really tired. Just take a little exercise to make sure you've done something on a day. So I probably go to the pool and maybe go on my bike for an hour or two, but only an easy spin and an easy swim, no rush. Then in three weeks, I go to Paris for the Paris Marathon. Thereafter, I go home for a few days, then I fly to Boston for the Boston Marathon, go home for two days, then back to London for the London marathon, two weeks off. Training as fast and as good as I can for the first triathlon competition in Japan. And then there's a few more triathlon competitions, one in Italy and one in France. And in the meantime, I'm also moving from one place to another place. So-

Like one house to another house? Oh, man.

Like one house to another house? Oh, man.

No, it's not a house. It's more like a farm.

No, it's not a house. It's more like a farm.

Okay. Oh, you've got a lot going on.

Okay. Oh, you've got a lot going on.

I've got too much equipment to move. It won't fit in one truck. I think I need five.

I've got too much equipment to move. It won't fit in one truck. I think I need five.

Well, I'm glad that you won some money today. Maybe you can hire some help.

Well, I'm glad that you won some money today. Maybe you can hire some help.

That definitely helps.

That definitely helps.

Yeah. Well congratulations-

Yeah. Well congratulations-

Thank you so much.

Thank you so much.

... on such an awesome race. 49:53 is what you ran today and two- time winner of the United Airlines NYC Half.

... on such an awesome race. 49:53 is what you ran today and two- time winner of the United Airlines NYC Half.

Yes. Maybe it comes a third time then.

Yes. Maybe it comes a third time then.

There you go.

There you go.

And then it'll be time to quit.

And then it'll be time to quit.

No, I don't think so. We don't want you to do that yet.

No, I don't think so. We don't want you to do that yet.

After three times it's time.

After three times it's time.

Well, we'll see you in Boston for sure. Congratulations.

Well, we'll see you in Boston for sure. Congratulations.

Yes, thank you very much.

Yes, thank you very much.

Sitting across the table from Manuela Schär, our four- time United NYC Half Marathon champion. I mean that's pretty crazy. Four times you've won this race before.

Sitting across the table from Manuela Schär, our four- time United NYC Half Marathon champion. I mean that's pretty crazy. Four times you've won this race before.

Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean it's always great to race in New York and then to even win in New York, it's even better. So I'm really happy. Yeah.

Yeah, it's unbelievable. I mean it's always great to race in New York and then to even win in New York, it's even better. So I'm really happy. Yeah.

So today was different. I want to talk about that, because you got off the line, and we've seen you get off the line really fast in other races, but today you got off the line and really you were on your own for most of the race.

So today was different. I want to talk about that, because you got off the line, and we've seen you get off the line really fast in other races, but today you got off the line and really you were on your own for most of the race.

Yeah, it was not easy conditions for us because usually we race with different settings when it's dry or when it's raining. And today, it was so foggy, so we had to decide if you want to go with the dry setup or if you want to go with the rain setup. And I decided to go with my gloves I would use in rain. So I think that made the difference.

Yeah, it was not easy conditions for us because usually we race with different settings when it's dry or when it's raining. And today, it was so foggy, so we had to decide if you want to go with the dry setup or if you want to go with the rain setup. And I decided to go with my gloves I would use in rain. So I think that made the difference.

So remind me, when you wear gloves, the wheelchair athletes, I was stumbling on the word in the broadcast too, is sandpaper that you have or some kind of grit on the glove?

So remind me, when you wear gloves, the wheelchair athletes, I was stumbling on the word in the broadcast too, is sandpaper that you have or some kind of grit on the glove?

Yeah. So usually, in dry conditions we use gloves with like a rubber and then our push rim has a rubber too. So rubber on rubber works really well when it's dry, but then when it's wet, it's slippery and so you have to find something that gives you back that grip. And some people use sandpaper on their gloves, some people use some kind of like...

Yeah. So usually, in dry conditions we use gloves with like a rubber and then our push rim has a rubber too. So rubber on rubber works really well when it's dry, but then when it's wet, it's slippery and so you have to find something that gives you back that grip. And some people use sandpaper on their gloves, some people use some kind of like...

Like a sticky?

Like a sticky?

Yeah. And then some people use like a handball cluster. So they're all different options you have. So you have to find the right thing for you.

Yeah. And then some people use like a handball cluster. So they're all different options you have. So you have to find the right thing for you.

It was really interesting though, because when we were walking there was a little bit of a slip. So I love that you mentioned that in the post- race interview that you really went with the wet weather. And as a runner, we think about that with our shoes, but for us that don't know what it's like to be a wheelchair athlete, I love that you give that insight.

It was really interesting though, because when we were walking there was a little bit of a slip. So I love that you mentioned that in the post- race interview that you really went with the wet weather. And as a runner, we think about that with our shoes, but for us that don't know what it's like to be a wheelchair athlete, I love that you give that insight.

Yeah. That's always the biggest challenge because sometimes you don't have enough time to make the decision and then you don't know what to bring to the start line. And if you still have enough time to change if it doesn't work and sometimes you just realize it a few miles into the race if you made the right call or not.

Yeah. That's always the biggest challenge because sometimes you don't have enough time to make the decision and then you don't know what to bring to the start line. And if you still have enough time to change if it doesn't work and sometimes you just realize it a few miles into the race if you made the right call or not.

Yeah, because there's no changing mid- race.

Yeah, because there's no changing mid- race.

Yes. No. I mean I brought my other gloves, but that would mean I would have to stop and then sit out my racing chair and then change my gloves. I would rather not do that, but I mean if it wouldn't work, I would still have this option to change.

Yes. No. I mean I brought my other gloves, but that would mean I would have to stop and then sit out my racing chair and then change my gloves. I would rather not do that, but I mean if it wouldn't work, I would still have this option to change.

Yeah. Well today, you won big. You ran 54: 09. I want to talk a little bit, you're getting ready for not just Boston, but London, the wheelchair athletes do back to back to back to back. You're amazing that way. And even like, I get it, it's different, right? There's not as much pounding, but there's still wear and tear on your body in different ways, but also the travel-

Yeah. Well today, you won big. You ran 54: 09. I want to talk a little bit, you're getting ready for not just Boston, but London, the wheelchair athletes do back to back to back to back. You're amazing that way. And even like, I get it, it's different, right? There's not as much pounding, but there's still wear and tear on your body in different ways, but also the travel-

Exactly.

Exactly.

... is wild with you guys.

... is wild with you guys.

Yeah. And to be honest, the older I get, the more I realize it's not easy to do all this time difference and different food and then other hotel and the traveling with all your, that big box with the racing chair and then you have a separate box for your wheels and then maybe you bring a spare wheel and then you have your luggage. So it's always-

Yeah. And to be honest, the older I get, the more I realize it's not easy to do all this time difference and different food and then other hotel and the traveling with all your, that big box with the racing chair and then you have a separate box for your wheels and then maybe you bring a spare wheel and then you have your luggage. So it's always-

It's challenging.

It's challenging.

It's challenging. Yeah.

It's challenging. Yeah.

Yeah. So last year seemed like there were some challenges and maybe that's just me being the broadcaster that I am and looking on paper that Manuela didn't win the road races that we've seen in the past. And as an athlete to athlete, like I get it, we have ups and down years, but can you explain that to me? Was it a down year? Was it a great year? You won the Paralympic 800, you got silver in the 400. I mean it's an amazing year, but yet some of your longer distances, we didn't see a number one next to. Tell me a little bit about that. And maybe I am totally wrong.

Yeah. So last year seemed like there were some challenges and maybe that's just me being the broadcaster that I am and looking on paper that Manuela didn't win the road races that we've seen in the past. And as an athlete to athlete, like I get it, we have ups and down years, but can you explain that to me? Was it a down year? Was it a great year? You won the Paralympic 800, you got silver in the 400. I mean it's an amazing year, but yet some of your longer distances, we didn't see a number one next to. Tell me a little bit about that. And maybe I am totally wrong.

No, you're not. I mean I'm so happy that I was able to win these two medals because if not, I would have been so frustrated with my Paralympic Games. For sure, the marathon did not go well. I'm still struggling a little bit with that because, yeah, the marathon was supposed to be my distance, it's my favorite race. But yeah, I had some really up and downs last year and I had some big changes also. So, yeah, it's hard to put it all in one, it's hard to find one reason why this happened.

No, you're not. I mean I'm so happy that I was able to win these two medals because if not, I would have been so frustrated with my Paralympic Games. For sure, the marathon did not go well. I'm still struggling a little bit with that because, yeah, the marathon was supposed to be my distance, it's my favorite race. But yeah, I had some really up and downs last year and I had some big changes also. So, yeah, it's hard to put it all in one, it's hard to find one reason why this happened.

And that's why we do it, right?

And that's why we do it, right?

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

We have to figure out how to be better each time we toe the line.

We have to figure out how to be better each time we toe the line.

Yeah. And then also some athletes just improved so much. Like, Catherine, she's insane, it's crazy-

Yeah. And then also some athletes just improved so much. Like, Catherine, she's insane, it's crazy-

Catherine Debrunner.

Catherine Debrunner.

Yeah. And then Susannah is doing really, really well and I think it's a really exciting time for the women's field and I'm so excited to see that and to still be part of it and to... I don't know, it's like we're all in this together and it's always fun to watch everybody race and break records and yeah, still being part of it is amazing.

Yeah. And then Susannah is doing really, really well and I think it's a really exciting time for the women's field and I'm so excited to see that and to still be part of it and to... I don't know, it's like we're all in this together and it's always fun to watch everybody race and break records and yeah, still being part of it is amazing.

I love that, the camaraderie that, well the runners, but also the wheelers have, it's just something really special. Getting ready now for some fall or some spring marathons. We're not trying to look too far out to the New York City Marathon, but so spring races, how does this win now and maybe more so mentally get you fired up for Boston, London, all the other races?

I love that, the camaraderie that, well the runners, but also the wheelers have, it's just something really special. Getting ready now for some fall or some spring marathons. We're not trying to look too far out to the New York City Marathon, but so spring races, how does this win now and maybe more so mentally get you fired up for Boston, London, all the other races?

I think I came here to use this as a bit of a warmup for the marathons, for Boston and London, and I think it was a good decision because it gives me a good feeling obviously to go into Boston and, yeah, I mean it's going to be exciting. It's going to be a really strong field, really strong women's field, and as always, Boston is a challenging course, so I'm very excited to see how it goes.

I think I came here to use this as a bit of a warmup for the marathons, for Boston and London, and I think it was a good decision because it gives me a good feeling obviously to go into Boston and, yeah, I mean it's going to be exciting. It's going to be a really strong field, really strong women's field, and as always, Boston is a challenging course, so I'm very excited to see how it goes.

Oh, we are too. Now, what do you do here in New York for fun after the race? Like Susannah likes to try to go to a show, Susannah Scaroni we're talking about, do you get to do anything fun or are you going to get home right away?

Oh, we are too. Now, what do you do here in New York for fun after the race? Like Susannah likes to try to go to a show, Susannah Scaroni we're talking about, do you get to do anything fun or are you going to get home right away?

Yeah, I made this a short one. I'm leaving tonight and I got here on Friday night, so, yeah, there was not a lot of time. I just went to a few stores and went a little shopping-

Yeah, I made this a short one. I'm leaving tonight and I got here on Friday night, so, yeah, there was not a lot of time. I just went to a few stores and went a little shopping-

(inaudible) . Yeah. Oh, well good luck to you. Thank you for just such an awesome intense race today. It was fun to see that fire. I mean we always see it in you, but when you broke the tape today, I think I even said it, " She's back."

(inaudible) . Yeah. Oh, well good luck to you. Thank you for just such an awesome intense race today. It was fun to see that fire. I mean we always see it in you, but when you broke the tape today, I think I even said it, " She's back."

Thank you.

Thank you.

So, congratulations.

So, congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And now we get to talk to our new winner, Sharon Lokedi. Sharon, okay, you have cracked the tape for the TCS New York City Marathon in your very first marathon ever.

And now we get to talk to our new winner, Sharon Lokedi. Sharon, okay, you have cracked the tape for the TCS New York City Marathon in your very first marathon ever.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

And now you cracked the tape today at NYC Half.

And now you cracked the tape today at NYC Half.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Tell me now it's about an hour past the race, so how are you feeling?

Tell me now it's about an hour past the race, so how are you feeling?

I feel good. I'm very happy about the race today. I honestly, I don't know if we would have gone any other way. I just wanted to come out here and compete and just get the race going and see how aware I am with my training and everything. And I'm so glad to have come with a win in a very magical race, in a very magical place, and yeah, the course was awesome.

I feel good. I'm very happy about the race today. I honestly, I don't know if we would have gone any other way. I just wanted to come out here and compete and just get the race going and see how aware I am with my training and everything. And I'm so glad to have come with a win in a very magical race, in a very magical place, and yeah, the course was awesome.

So magical. That's what you've said now twice.

So magical. That's what you've said now twice.

Yes.

Yes.

What was so magical? Why was it so awesome?

What was so magical? Why was it so awesome?

Honestly, I feel like every time I'm out here, it just brings something out of me. I just get so excited and I just want to go out there and run fast and compete so well. And there's strength, as you go out there, the New York Roadrunners, they're just so cool and so awesome and they're always so nice. So I mean they provide everything for you and it just feels, from the time you get here, it just feels so relaxing. And I think that helps with, as an athlete, just settling in and feeling very loved and very welcomed and I think that support fuels you and I think for me, it just makes me want to do well. And yeah, every time I'm out there and the people on the course, that is another thing, is so cool. They just cheer you on and they're wanting you to run so fast. And I think that helps me, just gives me more support and confidence and I just want to keep going and keep fighting.

Honestly, I feel like every time I'm out here, it just brings something out of me. I just get so excited and I just want to go out there and run fast and compete so well. And there's strength, as you go out there, the New York Roadrunners, they're just so cool and so awesome and they're always so nice. So I mean they provide everything for you and it just feels, from the time you get here, it just feels so relaxing. And I think that helps with, as an athlete, just settling in and feeling very loved and very welcomed and I think that support fuels you and I think for me, it just makes me want to do well. And yeah, every time I'm out there and the people on the course, that is another thing, is so cool. They just cheer you on and they're wanting you to run so fast. And I think that helps me, just gives me more support and confidence and I just want to keep going and keep fighting.

Well, let's break the race down just a little bit. So off the line, you weren't right up there pushing the pace, it was Calli Hauger- Thackery, there was a number of other athletes, Fiona O'Keeffe, but you were kind of in this big pack for, I don't know, about five miles?

Well, let's break the race down just a little bit. So off the line, you weren't right up there pushing the pace, it was Calli Hauger- Thackery, there was a number of other athletes, Fiona O'Keeffe, but you were kind of in this big pack for, I don't know, about five miles?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So walk us through that. Why did you do that? Was that intentional?

So walk us through that. Why did you do that? Was that intentional?

Not really. Just most of the time for me is I just get to the race and just pay attention to whatever happens, if there's a move made, just make sure I'm staying with it. And yeah, we did start today and everyone was in there and I just wanted to just be in... It was a bit chilly when we started, but it wasn't that bad so I just wanted to stay in it and just stay as relaxed and controlled as long as I could. And then just maybe the last few miles just kept making moves and yeah.

Not really. Just most of the time for me is I just get to the race and just pay attention to whatever happens, if there's a move made, just make sure I'm staying with it. And yeah, we did start today and everyone was in there and I just wanted to just be in... It was a bit chilly when we started, but it wasn't that bad so I just wanted to stay in it and just stay as relaxed and controlled as long as I could. And then just maybe the last few miles just kept making moves and yeah.

You were on the FDR for quite some time. Was there a little bit of a tailwind there, did I hear?

You were on the FDR for quite some time. Was there a little bit of a tailwind there, did I hear?

Yes.

Yes.

Did you let that take you? Were you trying not to let it take you? How do you run with that big of a tailwind?

Did you let that take you? Were you trying not to let it take you? How do you run with that big of a tailwind?

Honestly, I don't know if you can even feel it because you're just so focused.

Honestly, I don't know if you can even feel it because you're just so focused.

So focused.

So focused.

So most of the time it's like, I feel like once you're set your head in that, you're just thinking about that moment. And I think, yeah, yes, it did definitely help us because I mean it's almost helping you get faster or go faster, and there was a few miles in there that we were running and I'm like, " Oh, jeez."

So most of the time it's like, I feel like once you're set your head in that, you're just thinking about that moment. And I think, yeah, yes, it did definitely help us because I mean it's almost helping you get faster or go faster, and there was a few miles in there that we were running and I'm like, " Oh, jeez."

Yeah, it was pushing you.

Yeah, it was pushing you.

Yes, yes. So yeah, I think it did play a big part of getting us going, so, yeah.

Yes, yes. So yeah, I think it did play a big part of getting us going, so, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Okay, then you go through Times Square?

Yeah, yeah. Okay, then you go through Times Square?

Yes.

Yes.

How cool was that?

How cool was that?

Yes, oh, that was... We got up through this hill and it was a little bit over nine miles and then there was a hill and then a downhill and then once we got to the city, you could tell when you get to the city-

Yes, oh, that was... We got up through this hill and it was a little bit over nine miles and then there was a hill and then a downhill and then once we got to the city, you could tell when you get to the city-

You can feel the energy coming.

You can feel the energy coming.

Yes. And all of a sudden it's starting to get so loud and everything. And I think that's when I just got the cadence and the rhythm going and I just took it.

Yes. And all of a sudden it's starting to get so loud and everything. And I think that's when I just got the cadence and the rhythm going and I just took it.

You did. At 10 miles, it was almost like a light switch.

You did. At 10 miles, it was almost like a light switch.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Did you have that strategy coming in? Did you and coach say, " At 10 miles I want to make a move?"

Did you have that strategy coming in? Did you and coach say, " At 10 miles I want to make a move?"

No, actually we had a tempo last week where we did like a six- mile progressive run. So, he texted me last night and he was like, " Just do it like you did last time. Just keep getting faster, go marathon pace and then half- marathon pace," just like that. But I thought about it but then I was like, six miles is a long way to go, you know? And so, yeah, I just wanted to... At 10 miles, I just wanted to maybe slowly just keep improving and see how that goes.

No, actually we had a tempo last week where we did like a six- mile progressive run. So, he texted me last night and he was like, " Just do it like you did last time. Just keep getting faster, go marathon pace and then half- marathon pace," just like that. But I thought about it but then I was like, six miles is a long way to go, you know? And so, yeah, I just wanted to... At 10 miles, I just wanted to maybe slowly just keep improving and see how that goes.

No looking back after 10 miles though really, you really were like... Did you feel the sense that you were really gaining on them? Or?

No looking back after 10 miles though really, you really were like... Did you feel the sense that you were really gaining on them? Or?

I did, but I also, there's something that's always like, oh, you need to look back, maybe see how far they... And I feel like I always do that and I'm trying to get better at it and just trust myself, just trust once I get going, I just trust that I can just take it all the way to the end and yeah, it was just that was a new thing for me.

I did, but I also, there's something that's always like, oh, you need to look back, maybe see how far they... And I feel like I always do that and I'm trying to get better at it and just trust myself, just trust once I get going, I just trust that I can just take it all the way to the end and yeah, it was just that was a new thing for me.

I love that you say that, because in many interviews that I've either done or I've listened to of yours, you trust. You have a lot of trust in your training, in your coach, in your community around you.

I love that you say that, because in many interviews that I've either done or I've listened to of yours, you trust. You have a lot of trust in your training, in your coach, in your community around you.

Yes, yes. Because-

Yes, yes. Because-

How do you get that? How do these runners, I mean we can hear the crowds going crazy still and we're 46 floors up, right?

How do you get that? How do these runners, I mean we can hear the crowds going crazy still and we're 46 floors up, right?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

But I mean how do you learn to trust your instinct and what you've been doing?

But I mean how do you learn to trust your instinct and what you've been doing?

I think for me it starts with training. Every time I'm training it's like we start doing these workouts and sometimes they get so hard and then I'm just like, " Okay, you can just do it. You can just hold it a little bit longer and it gets better." So just like I said, I work on that during my training and then I come to races and even I think when I was in college, I used to be like, every time I go for a run or a race, my coach would tell me, " Just make sure you're using the person in front of you to get you going, to pull you." So even in training, even when I have a pacemaker or I don't, I just try to use something that's ahead of me just to get me going.

I think for me it starts with training. Every time I'm training it's like we start doing these workouts and sometimes they get so hard and then I'm just like, " Okay, you can just do it. You can just hold it a little bit longer and it gets better." So just like I said, I work on that during my training and then I come to races and even I think when I was in college, I used to be like, every time I go for a run or a race, my coach would tell me, " Just make sure you're using the person in front of you to get you going, to pull you." So even in training, even when I have a pacemaker or I don't, I just try to use something that's ahead of me just to get me going.

Well today you had no one in front of you the last three miles, but you did have that finish tape and then did you see the time when you crossed?

Well today you had no one in front of you the last three miles, but you did have that finish tape and then did you see the time when you crossed?

Actually-

Actually-

1:07:04?

1:07:04?

I actually saw, I think it was 1K to go and it was like 62 and I'm like, " Oh my god," I think it was 63, sorry, I don't remember-

I actually saw, I think it was 1K to go and it was like 62 and I'm like, " Oh my god," I think it was 63, sorry, I don't remember-

Something like that. Yeah.

Something like that. Yeah.

Somewhere around there. And in my head I'm like, " If I'm running 3: 10 pace, I'm on 66," and I'm like, " Okay, just hold it. Just run." But then I got the hill and I was like, " Dang it." And then the course turned and then I had to go and I could see... I know it was so cold, so I tried to fight as hard as I could, but I didn't get 66, but 67 is still so much better. So I'm really glad with that time and I think if anything, it just made me so confident going forward.

Somewhere around there. And in my head I'm like, " If I'm running 3: 10 pace, I'm on 66," and I'm like, " Okay, just hold it. Just run." But then I got the hill and I was like, " Dang it." And then the course turned and then I had to go and I could see... I know it was so cold, so I tried to fight as hard as I could, but I didn't get 66, but 67 is still so much better. So I'm really glad with that time and I think if anything, it just made me so confident going forward.

Yeah. New event record today. How does this set you up for Boston? Because Boston now is what? Five weeks away?

Yeah. New event record today. How does this set you up for Boston? Because Boston now is what? Five weeks away?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So tell me, I mean this race in itself is huge, now you have another big one coming up. So how does this help you?

So tell me, I mean this race in itself is huge, now you have another big one coming up. So how does this help you?

Honestly, I think it was just... It is really like, I've done so many workouts in running that I'm like, " Okay, yes, I might be fit, but I didn't know where I was." So I think this going forward is just going to be a step in the right direction of knowing, okay, I can do this or I'm here and I have to do this. So I think, if anything, it's just going to help me fuel me more and get more excited for Boston.

Honestly, I think it was just... It is really like, I've done so many workouts in running that I'm like, " Okay, yes, I might be fit, but I didn't know where I was." So I think this going forward is just going to be a step in the right direction of knowing, okay, I can do this or I'm here and I have to do this. So I think, if anything, it's just going to help me fuel me more and get more excited for Boston.

Oh my goodness. Okay. So you told me beforehand that you spend too much money in the city. So we got to know, I mean I think you probably just came home and you got showered. Did you eat something? What did you eat? What was your first thing that you ate after the race?

Oh my goodness. Okay. So you told me beforehand that you spend too much money in the city. So we got to know, I mean I think you probably just came home and you got showered. Did you eat something? What did you eat? What was your first thing that you ate after the race?

Actually we went to the Tavern on the Green and I had tea and they had this quiche.

Actually we went to the Tavern on the Green and I had tea and they had this quiche.

Ooh, yum.

Ooh, yum.

Yeah, it was good. It was really good. And then this green bagel.

Yeah, it was good. It was really good. And then this green bagel.

Because it's St Paddy's Day on Monday.

Because it's St Paddy's Day on Monday.

Yes.

Yes.

Oh my gosh, so fun.

Oh my gosh, so fun.

So I had that and yeah, we have that big lunch coming, so I need to like... I think that's enough for now, but I am really looking forward to that because they always have really good food.

So I had that and yeah, we have that big lunch coming, so I need to like... I think that's enough for now, but I am really looking forward to that because they always have really good food.

Yeah, they do it up here.

Yeah, they do it up here.

I'm very excited. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm very excited. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh my goodness. Well, congratulations. Thank you for putting on such a great show. It's always fun to watch you race.

Oh my goodness. Well, congratulations. Thank you for putting on such a great show. It's always fun to watch you race.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.

Oh, thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it.

All right, everybody sitting across the table here from Abel Kipchumba, who is the two- time United Airlines NYC Half Marathon champion. Listen, 59:09 today and Conner Mantz ran you basically to that finish line. So I got to hear about your race. Let's talk about it. Coming back here as the defending champion, how excited were you to toe the line again this year?

All right, everybody sitting across the table here from Abel Kipchumba, who is the two- time United Airlines NYC Half Marathon champion. Listen, 59:09 today and Conner Mantz ran you basically to that finish line. So I got to hear about your race. Let's talk about it. Coming back here as the defending champion, how excited were you to toe the line again this year?

First of all, today when I was coming for this second Half Marathon for New York, I was training for Marathon, but I was well- prepared for myself because you must prepare your psychology. And when I reached here, the course was changed, not like for the last year and today the field was so strong, that helped me to push more and then I ran that 59: 09. But when I compare for last year and this year, this last year was cold, so cold. But this year is cold, but it has a lot of mist. But that cannot affect the race. The race, when somebody is ready, you are ready. So, that made me today run well.

First of all, today when I was coming for this second Half Marathon for New York, I was training for Marathon, but I was well- prepared for myself because you must prepare your psychology. And when I reached here, the course was changed, not like for the last year and today the field was so strong, that helped me to push more and then I ran that 59: 09. But when I compare for last year and this year, this last year was cold, so cold. But this year is cold, but it has a lot of mist. But that cannot affect the race. The race, when somebody is ready, you are ready. So, that made me today run well.

Let's hear about your strategy coming in. Did you have a strategy to sit and push at a certain moment? Last year you made a move around 15K, this year it was pretty close to that as well. Were you thinking, I'm going to go once we get closer to Times Square?

Let's hear about your strategy coming in. Did you have a strategy to sit and push at a certain moment? Last year you made a move around 15K, this year it was pretty close to that as well. Were you thinking, I'm going to go once we get closer to Times Square?

Today I see the guy who we were running together, I see he was strong, but when I reached around 17 kilometer, I decided that when we continue going like this, it will be tough for me to win this race. So in race, you must calculate yourself first. Yeah, and then I change. And when I was trying to move to go away, I do several zigzag and then I move.

Today I see the guy who we were running together, I see he was strong, but when I reached around 17 kilometer, I decided that when we continue going like this, it will be tough for me to win this race. So in race, you must calculate yourself first. Yeah, and then I change. And when I was trying to move to go away, I do several zigzag and then I move.

That was really interesting, Abel, you were running and you guys were kind of running next to each other, you were one step in front of him, but then you started to zigzag, right? You started to go to one side and then to the other. Do you remember doing that?

That was really interesting, Abel, you were running and you guys were kind of running next to each other, you were one step in front of him, but then you started to zigzag, right? You started to go to one side and then to the other. Do you remember doing that?

Yeah, I remember because that guy was noticing, so you must have planned yourself out to drop him and then you will be safe.

Yeah, I remember because that guy was noticing, so you must have planned yourself out to drop him and then you will be safe.

You were trying to drop Conner Mantz? I said that on the broadcast. I said, " He's either going to drop Conner Mantz or he's going to use too much energy." So I was wondering what way it was going to go, because that is a risk that you took, right? I mean that could have worked for you by doing the zigzag and putting surges in, or it could have backfired, meaning it could have caused you to run too much or too hard at that stage.

You were trying to drop Conner Mantz? I said that on the broadcast. I said, " He's either going to drop Conner Mantz or he's going to use too much energy." So I was wondering what way it was going to go, because that is a risk that you took, right? I mean that could have worked for you by doing the zigzag and putting surges in, or it could have backfired, meaning it could have caused you to run too much or too hard at that stage.

When you're running to doing zigzag, you use a lot of energy, but you must work for it that you feel your body, if you'll survive in front when you are going for a finishing line. So I decided, when I look back, I see the guy still is strong, he is following me, but I try to inject the best to be higher. And then when I look, I says, that guy, he will be constant. The guy will run constant and I will be running constant. So that guy will not be close. So it will be hard.

When you're running to doing zigzag, you use a lot of energy, but you must work for it that you feel your body, if you'll survive in front when you are going for a finishing line. So I decided, when I look back, I see the guy still is strong, he is following me, but I try to inject the best to be higher. And then when I look, I says, that guy, he will be constant. The guy will run constant and I will be running constant. So that guy will not be close. So it will be hard.

Yeah, Conner Mantz is a tough competitor and has run very well, just set the American record and he doesn't like getting beat. Nobody does, right?

Yeah, Conner Mantz is a tough competitor and has run very well, just set the American record and he doesn't like getting beat. Nobody does, right?

I understand because I watched him in Houston-

I understand because I watched him in Houston-

You watched him run?

You watched him run?

... even before I ran this race yesterday, I review back to follow him, to watch how he was running. So, I see this guy is tough.

... even before I ran this race yesterday, I review back to follow him, to watch how he was running. So, I see this guy is tough.

But so are you. I mean you've run the 10th fastest half- marathon ever.

But so are you. I mean you've run the 10th fastest half- marathon ever.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean that's pretty amazing. You walk around this big city, the Big Apple, and you know that you are the 10th fastest man on the planet in this half- marathon. Does that give you confidence?

I mean that's pretty amazing. You walk around this big city, the Big Apple, and you know that you are the 10th fastest man on the planet in this half- marathon. Does that give you confidence?

Yes, I am confident because I have run several 59 and 58. Yeah.

Yes, I am confident because I have run several 59 and 58. Yeah.

Okay. Tell me about how this race sets you up for the Boston Marathon. You were eighth at the TCS New York City Marathon last fall. Now you're heading into Boston.

Okay. Tell me about how this race sets you up for the Boston Marathon. You were eighth at the TCS New York City Marathon last fall. Now you're heading into Boston.

But if I compare for last year when I was coming to New York Marathon, I didn't many long runs. I did only a few long runs. But if I compare for this year with Boston, I did a lot of long runs.

But if I compare for last year when I was coming to New York Marathon, I didn't many long runs. I did only a few long runs. But if I compare for this year with Boston, I did a lot of long runs.

So you've done a lot of long runs heading in?

So you've done a lot of long runs heading in?

I think even for Boston, I have a lot of confidence. We will go out there and we see what next they will be.

I think even for Boston, I have a lot of confidence. We will go out there and we see what next they will be.

I mean I can see this glimmer in your eye, the smile is huge, I wish everyone could see it. When you talk to me about Boston, what do you think? I want to win it?

I mean I can see this glimmer in your eye, the smile is huge, I wish everyone could see it. When you talk to me about Boston, what do you think? I want to win it?

No, no. You know Boston is a tactical game and Boston is hard. It is for every time, weather can change. When we say Boston is for anybody race, anybody can win.

No, no. You know Boston is a tactical game and Boston is hard. It is for every time, weather can change. When we say Boston is for anybody race, anybody can win.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah. The survival of the fittest there, that's a tough course, but much like this, you get to see some hills, you have some flats and things like that. Today you tackled those later stages in Central Park really well, it almost looked like you attacked the hills. Did you feel really strong over the hills today?

Yeah. The survival of the fittest there, that's a tough course, but much like this, you get to see some hills, you have some flats and things like that. Today you tackled those later stages in Central Park really well, it almost looked like you attacked the hills. Did you feel really strong over the hills today?

Yes, I feel very strong.

Yes, I feel very strong.

Oh, what are you going to do to celebrate? I mean you have to celebrate today's win. So are you doing anything in the city? You going to have some ice cream today? What do you do to celebrate? I mean I know you do. Your agent is sitting next to you, I wonder if I can ask Stavor what do you do to celebrate?

Oh, what are you going to do to celebrate? I mean you have to celebrate today's win. So are you doing anything in the city? You going to have some ice cream today? What do you do to celebrate? I mean I know you do. Your agent is sitting next to you, I wonder if I can ask Stavor what do you do to celebrate?

Maybe he know himself.

Maybe he know himself.

Oh, well, congratulations on everything. This has been really fun. You don't get to see a two- time winner of the United Airlines NYC Half very often. So we're sitting in rare company. Congratulations.

Oh, well, congratulations on everything. This has been really fun. You don't get to see a two- time winner of the United Airlines NYC Half very often. So we're sitting in rare company. Congratulations.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thanks everybody for joining us today at the Set the Pace Podcast. Wow. These athletes are amazing on the course, but they're also amazing off the course and I'm so thankful I had the opportunity to interview them all. I hope you enjoyed it and we'll see you next time.

Thanks everybody for joining us today at the Set the Pace Podcast. Wow. These athletes are amazing on the course, but they're also amazing off the course and I'm so thankful I had the opportunity to interview them all. I hope you enjoyed it and we'll see you next time.

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