Who are we when an old version of ourselves no longer fits, but the next chapter has yet to reveal itself?

In this episode, Keryn and Vicki explore the often uncomfortable, yet deeply transformative, space between stories. The seasons of life where identities shift, roles change, and certainty gives way to possibility.

Together they reflect on the endings that shape us, the grief that can accompany change, and the wisdom that emerges when we stop trying to rush toward answers. Through personal stories and heartfelt conversation, they explore how presence, self-compassion, and trust can help us navigate life's transitions with greater ease.

Through the lenses of Salt, Sage, and Stardust, they discuss:
Why the space between stories can feel so disorienting
• The grief of letting go of familiar identities and ways of being
• The difference between seeking certainty and finding presence
• How the body carries wisdom through times of transition
• Heart-mind harmony and the role of self-compassion
• Trusting life's unfolding, one step at a time
• Viewing change as a process rather than a single event
• Finding wonder, curiosity, and possibility in the unknown

The conversation reminds us that endings and beginnings are rarely separate events. One story may be dissolving while another is quietly emerging. The invitation is not to figure everything out, but to remain in relationship with yourself as life unfolds.

As always, the episode concludes with a Tarot reflection, where the Wheel of Fortune offers a timely reminder that life is always moving, changing, and inviting us forward.

Whether you're navigating a career change, the end of a relationship, retirement, a personal awakening, or simply finding yourself between versions of who you've been, this episode is an invitation to trust the space between stories.

Maybe the unknown is not empty.

Perhaps it is preparing you for what comes next.

We’d love for you to join our growing Salt, Sage & Stardust community over on Substack, where we continue the conversations beyond the podcast with reflections, stories, insights, and soul-led exploration.

Who are we when an old version of ourselves no longer fits, but the next chapter has yet to reveal itself?
In this episode, Keryn and Vicki explore the often uncomfortable, yet deeply transformative, space between stories. The seasons of life where identities shift, roles change, and certainty gives way to possibility.
Together they reflect on the endings that shape us, the grief that can accompany change, and the wisdom that emerges when we stop trying to rush toward answers. Through personal stories and heartfelt conversation, they explore how presence, self-compassion, and trust can help us navigate life's transitions with greater ease.
Through the lenses of Salt, Sage, and Stardust, they discuss:
<ul>
<li>Why the space between stories can feel so disorienting &bull; The grief of letting go of familiar identities and ways of being &bull; The difference between seeking certainty and finding presence &bull; How the body carries wisdom through times of transition &bull; Heart-mind harmony and the role of self-compassion &bull; Trusting life's unfolding, one step at a time &bull; Viewing change as a process rather than a single event &bull; Finding wonder, curiosity, and possibility in the unknown</li>
</ul>
The conversation reminds us that endings and beginnings are rarely separate events. One story may be dissolving while another is quietly emerging. The invitation is not to figure everything out, but to remain in relationship with yourself as life unfolds.
As always, the episode concludes with a Tarot reflection, where the Wheel of Fortune offers a timely reminder that life is always moving, changing, and inviting us forward.
Whether you're navigating a career change, the end of a relationship, retirement, a personal awakening, or simply finding yourself between versions of who you've been, this episode is an invitation to trust the space between stories.
Maybe the unknown is not empty.
Perhaps it is preparing you for what comes next.
We&rsquo;d love for you to join our growing Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust community over on Substack, where we continue the conversations beyond the podcast with reflections, stories, insights, and soul-led exploration.

Welcome to Salt, Sage & Stardust—a weekly conversation between Keryn Rose, an intuitive energy healer, and Dr Vicki Haspels, a Tarot Coach. This is a space to pause, reflect, and reconnect with the deeper threads beneath everyday life. Each episode, Keryn & Vicki explore the energy of what’s been, what’s shifting, and what’s quietly guiding us forward. With a touch of insight, a little humour, and a whole lot of heart—they’re here to remind you that there’s magic in the ordinary, wisdom in your own rhythm, and healing in simply showing up

 

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Email: enquiries@vickihaspels.com

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Website: https://kerynrose.com.au/

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Email: enquires@kerynrose.com.au

Welcome to Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust&mdash;a weekly conversation between Keryn Rose, an intuitive energy healer, and Dr Vicki Haspels, a Tarot Coach. This is a space to pause, reflect, and reconnect with the deeper threads beneath everyday life. Each episode, Keryn &amp; Vicki explore the energy of what&rsquo;s been, what&rsquo;s shifting, and what&rsquo;s quietly guiding us forward. With a touch of insight, a little humour, and a whole lot of heart&mdash;they&rsquo;re here to remind you that there&rsquo;s magic in the ordinary, wisdom in your own rhythm, and healing in simply showing up
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CONTACT DETAILS
Connect with the Hosts:
Dr Vicki Haspels
Website: <a href="https://www.vickihaspels.com/">https://www.vickihaspels.com/</a>
Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/vickihaspels8">www.facebook.com/vickihaspels8</a>
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Episode 48 - The Space Between Stories

What happens when the labels we’ve carried for years begin to fall away?

In this deeply reflective episode of Salt, Sage & Stardust, Keryn Rose and Dr Vicki Haspels explore the question: Who are you beyond the roles you perform?

Together, they unravel the identities we so often attach ourselves to — mother, wife, healer, professional, caregiver, “the strong one,” “the sensible one” — and explore what happens when life changes, relationships shift, children grow up, careers evolve, or old versions of ourselves no longer fit.

Through the three perspectives of Salt, Sage & Stardust, this conversation gently examines:
How identity is shaped through family, culture, roles, and responsibility
• Why the nervous system can struggle when familiar identities dissolve
• The difference between a role you play and the essence of who you are
• How grief, freedom, growth, and remembrance often arrive together
• Why identities can become armour — and what happens when we loosen the grip
• The invitation to reconnect with the part of yourself that existed before any label did

Keryn and Vicki also reflect on:
– motherhood and changing family dynamics
– ageing and evolving life stages
– self-worth and self-protection
– soul remembrance and authentic expression
– the fear of change and the beauty of becoming

The episode closes with a powerful Seven of Cups tarot reflection — reminding us that identity is not a prison, but a vehicle through which we experience life.

This is a conversation for anyone navigating transition, reinvention, grief, freedom, or the quiet question: “If I’m no longer who I used to be… who am I now?”

You are not your labels.
You are the presence beneath them.

We’d love for you to join our growing Salt, Sage & Stardust community over on Substack, where we continue the conversations beyond the podcast with reflections, stories, insights, and soul-led exploration.

Thank you for walking this path with us.

What happens when the labels we&rsquo;ve carried for years begin to fall away?
In this deeply reflective episode of Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust, Keryn Rose and Dr Vicki Haspels explore the question: Who are you beyond the roles you perform?
Together, they unravel the identities we so often attach ourselves to &mdash; mother, wife, healer, professional, caregiver, &ldquo;the strong one,&rdquo; &ldquo;the sensible one&rdquo; &mdash; and explore what happens when life changes, relationships shift, children grow up, careers evolve, or old versions of ourselves no longer fit.
Through the three perspectives of Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust, this conversation gently examines:
<ul>
<li>How identity is shaped through family, culture, roles, and responsibility &bull; Why the nervous system can struggle when familiar identities dissolve &bull; The difference between a role you play and the essence of who you are &bull; How grief, freedom, growth, and remembrance often arrive together &bull; Why identities can become armour &mdash; and what happens when we loosen the grip &bull; The invitation to reconnect with the part of yourself that existed before any label did</li>
</ul>
Keryn and Vicki also reflect on: &ndash; motherhood and changing family dynamics &ndash; ageing and evolving life stages &ndash; self-worth and self-protection &ndash; soul remembrance and authentic expression &ndash; the fear of change and the beauty of becoming
The episode closes with a powerful Seven of Cups tarot reflection &mdash; reminding us that identity is not a prison, but a vehicle through which we experience life.
This is a conversation for anyone navigating transition, reinvention, grief, freedom, or the quiet question: &ldquo;If I&rsquo;m no longer who I used to be&hellip; who am I now?&rdquo;
You are not your labels. You are the presence beneath them.
We&rsquo;d love for you to join our growing Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust community over on Substack, where we continue the conversations beyond the podcast with reflections, stories, insights, and soul-led exploration.
Thank you for walking this path with us.

Episode 47 - Who Would You Be Without Your Identity?

There comes a moment in life when we realise the routines we created to “fix” ourselves are often the very things exhausting us.

In this deeply honest and soul-stirring episode of Salt, Sage & Stardust, Keryn Rose and Dr Vicki Haspels explore the powerful difference between discipline that is rooted in shame and structure that is born from self-devotion.

Together, they unpack the hidden ways many of us learned to associate discipline with punishment, productivity, performance, and worthiness — especially through generational expectations, rigid routines, and the pressure to constantly prove ourselves.

But what if discipline was never meant to feel like a prison?

What if true structure was actually an act of self-care?

Through the three pillars of Salt, Sage & Stardust, Keryn and Vicki explore:
• the nervous system’s response to pressure and control
• the body’s wisdom in recognising what no longer fits
• the difference between guidance and self-surveillance
• the “psychic prisons” we unknowingly create through rigid routines
• why shame keeps us disconnected from ourselves
• the importance of flexibility, compassion, and self-trust
• returning to joy, wholeness, and the freedom to be fully ourselves

This conversation is a gentle but powerful reminder that healing is not about becoming someone else.

It is about remembering who you already are.

And perhaps true discipline is not punishment at all…
Perhaps it is devotion to the life you came here to live.

This episode also includes a beautiful Tarot reflection on The Chariot card, a symbol of emotional balance, self-awareness, direction, and learning to move through life guided by inner truth rather than external pressure.

If you have ever struggled with routine, burnout, perfectionism, guilt, procrastination, or the feeling that you must earn your worth through productivity, this episode is for you.

You are not broken.
You are simply being invited to create a life that fits your soul.

If this conversation resonated with you, we would love to invite you into our Salt, Sage & Stardust Substack community - a space for deeper conversations, shared wisdom, and gentle reminders that you are never walking this path alone.

Come sit with us awhile.
We’d love to have you there. ✨

There comes a moment in life when we realise the routines we created to &ldquo;fix&rdquo; ourselves are often the very things exhausting us.
In this deeply honest and soul-stirring episode of Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust, Keryn Rose and Dr Vicki Haspels explore the powerful difference between discipline that is rooted in shame and structure that is born from self-devotion.
Together, they unpack the hidden ways many of us learned to associate discipline with punishment, productivity, performance, and worthiness &mdash; especially through generational expectations, rigid routines, and the pressure to constantly prove ourselves.
But what if discipline was never meant to feel like a prison?
What if true structure was actually an act of self-care?
Through the three pillars of Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust, Keryn and Vicki explore: &bull; the nervous system&rsquo;s response to pressure and control &bull; the body&rsquo;s wisdom in recognising what no longer fits &bull; the difference between guidance and self-surveillance &bull; the &ldquo;psychic prisons&rdquo; we unknowingly create through rigid routines &bull; why shame keeps us disconnected from ourselves &bull; the importance of flexibility, compassion, and self-trust &bull; returning to joy, wholeness, and the freedom to be fully ourselves
This conversation is a gentle but powerful reminder that healing is not about becoming someone else.
It is about remembering who you already are.
And perhaps true discipline is not punishment at all&hellip; Perhaps it is devotion to the life you came here to live.
This episode also includes a beautiful Tarot reflection on The Chariot card, a symbol of emotional balance, self-awareness, direction, and learning to move through life guided by inner truth rather than external pressure.
If you have ever struggled with routine, burnout, perfectionism, guilt, procrastination, or the feeling that you must earn your worth through productivity, this episode is for you.
You are not broken. You are simply being invited to create a life that fits your soul.
If this conversation resonated with you, we would love to invite you into our Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust Substack community - a space for deeper conversations, shared wisdom, and gentle reminders that you are never walking this path alone.
Come sit with us awhile. We&rsquo;d love to have you there. ✨

Episode 46 - Devotion, Not Discipline: Healing the Relationship Between Structure, Shame & Self-Trust

Growth is beautiful, and necessary, but it is rarely loud.

Sometimes becoming asks us to step away from what was familiar. Relationships shift. Old identities fall away. The life that once felt comfortable no longer fits and in that in-between space, loneliness can arrive.

In this heartfelt episode, Keryn Rose and Dr. Vicki Haspels explore the sacred discomfort of personal growth. The quiet grief that comes when life asks us to evolve.

Together they unpack the difference between loneliness and aloneness, why the nervous system often interprets growth as anxiety, and how solitude can become one of the most powerful spaces for self-remembrance.

This conversation is an invitation to stop seeing loneliness as something broken and begin recognising it as part of becoming. Sometimes the space between who you were and who you are becoming is not emptiness. It is preparation.

In this episode, we explore:

– the difference between loneliness and aloneness
– why growth often feels like grief before it feels like freedom
– how the body signals change before the mind understands it
– nervous system activation during periods of transformation
– learning to trust yourself in seasons of uncertainty

This is a conversation about self-trust, inner safety, and learning how to stand fully in your own company. Because sometimes the person you’ve been waiting for is you. 

Tarot Card Wisdom

The Four of Pentacles beautifully reflected the heart of this conversation. It speaks of holding on tightly whether to old identities, familiar relationships, past versions of ourselves, or the comfort of what once felt safe. This card reminds us that growth often asks us to loosen our grip. When we cling too tightly to what has already served its purpose, we create more fear, resistance, and suffering. The Four invites us to build inner stability rather than external control, to trust that change is not here to take something from us, but to make space for something new. In the loneliness of becoming, this card asks us to soften, release, and remember that what is truly meant for us does not require fear to hold it in place.

A gentle invitation

If this conversation speaks to you, we’d love to welcome you to our Substack community where we share deeper reflections, extended conversations, and behind-the-scenes wisdom from Salt, Sage & Stardust.

You can find us on Substack at saltsageandstardust.substack.com 

Come sit with us there.

A little more depth.
A little more remembering.
A little more magic.

Growth is beautiful, and necessary, but it is rarely loud.
Sometimes becoming asks us to step away from what was familiar. Relationships shift. Old identities fall away. The life that once felt comfortable no longer fits and in that in-between space, loneliness can arrive.
In this heartfelt episode, Keryn Rose and Dr. Vicki Haspels explore the sacred discomfort of personal growth. The quiet grief that comes when life asks us to evolve.
Together they unpack the difference between loneliness and aloneness, why the nervous system often interprets growth as anxiety, and how solitude can become one of the most powerful spaces for self-remembrance.
This conversation is an invitation to stop seeing loneliness as something broken and begin recognising it as part of becoming. Sometimes the space between who you were and who you are becoming is not emptiness. It is preparation.
In this episode, we explore:
&ndash; the difference between loneliness and aloneness &ndash; why growth often feels like grief before it feels like freedom &ndash; how the body signals change before the mind understands it &ndash; nervous system activation during periods of transformation &ndash; learning to trust yourself in seasons of uncertainty
This is a conversation about self-trust, inner safety, and learning how to stand fully in your own company. Because sometimes the person you&rsquo;ve been waiting for is you.&nbsp;
Tarot Card Wisdom
The Four of Pentacles beautifully reflected the heart of this conversation. It speaks of holding on tightly whether to old identities, familiar relationships, past versions of ourselves, or the comfort of what once felt safe. This card reminds us that growth often asks us to loosen our grip. When we cling too tightly to what has already served its purpose, we create more fear, resistance, and suffering. The Four invites us to build inner stability rather than external control, to trust that change is not here to take something from us, but to make space for something new. In the loneliness of becoming, this card asks us to soften, release, and remember that what is truly meant for us does not require fear to hold it in place.
A gentle invitation
If this conversation speaks to you, we&rsquo;d love to welcome you to our Substack community where we share deeper reflections, extended conversations, and behind-the-scenes wisdom from Salt, Sage &amp; Stardust.
You can find us on Substack at saltsageandstardust.substack.com&nbsp;
Come sit with us there.
A little more depth. A little more remembering. A little more magic.

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