In this episode of Sacred Lessons, host Mike de la Rocha sits with educator, surfer, filmmaker, and founder of Native Like Water Marc Chavez for a conversation about water, grief, and ancestral connection. Through his work and Indigenous surf film Haagua, Marc reflects on how the ocean can become a place of healing, remembrance, and reconnection with those who came before us. Together, Mike and Marc explore what water can teach us about letting go without forgetting, how reconnecting with culture can move communities from surviving to thriving, and why healing is intimately connected to nature.



