We’re joined by Phil Journeaux from AgFirst, in the Waikato…  Phil’s been working on agricultural greenhouse gases for eight years - consulting with both MPI and He Waka eke Noa. He was the man behind the study into calculating greenhouse gases, and farm sequestration for He Waka Eke Noa. With a couple of master's degrees..  Phil specialises in economic analysis, especially of whatever policy the government is sending down the line…  And he has a herd of finishing cattle which he runs on his lifestyle block, just to keep his eye in.