Neil Treacy is joined by Bernard Jackman and Gareth Steenson on this week's RTÉ Rugby podcast to discuss a mixed week of results for the Irish provinces in the Investec Champions Cup and the Challenge Cup.

We start this week's pod with a long conversation about the impact the kicking game currently has in rugby, sparked by recent criticism of how rugby has become kick and stoppage-heavy as a result of World Rugby's clampdown on 'escorting'.

We then look back on the weekend's opening block of games in Europe, starting with how Munster capitulated in the opening quarter against Bath at The Rec (25:45).

Attention then turns to Leinster, who Gareth believes are steadily building their season, after a 45-28 win against Harlequins (36:05).

We pick out some of the Ulster players who impressed in their 61-7 hammering of Racing 92 in the Challenge Cup (43:55), while we also look over a deeply frustrating afternoon at the office for Connacht, who lost 24-21 away to Ospreys, despite leading the game 21-0 (49:00).