Ron starts this episode talking about what’s going on with Chrysler : takes a call on a 31 Ford Model A that has been parked for 14 years, and the caller is looking for tips to get it started again : takes a call on a 23 Maverick where the caller is asking how to soften up the suspension as it’s a bit rough : takes a call on an 08 Pilot with transmission problems at 230K miles.
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I want to talk a little bit about, well, what's going on with Chrysler. You know Chrysler's You hear it in the news in and out. If you're in New Jersey, you're kind of hearing it in and out between. There's drones overhead, but that's a whole other conversation not applicable to this radio show.
Or is it.
Maybe we'll be doing drone repair in the next fifty years. Chrysler's in trouble.
You know.
I didn't verify this, but I think I think it was right. The article I read said Chrysler Chrysler as Chrysler, not Ram, not Jeep. But Chrysler only makes one vehicle now, and I think that's true. They only make a minivan. I think they just make a minivan. I don't think they make a car. Tom will check it for me, but I and I was like, wow, that's kind of mind blowing, right, you know, it's funny the car companies, all of them do what they want, but I don't think they listened to the public until after the fact. Ford stopped making sedans. All they did was make trucks, right, Like, the only vehicle you can buy from Ford, the only car you can buy from Ford is a Mustang, all right, But everything else is small SUVs. And you know the whole ev thing. We know where that's going, you know, I think that's sort of seen its day, and you know, now Ford's starting to think, hey, maybe we'll start making cars again. The you know, now, I know why the Simpsons are around, because there's that there's that you know, Homer moment though, like people want cars. Yeah.
Well, I'm looking at their website right now, Chrysler, and I see two twenty twenty four models, the Chrysler Pacifica, the Chrysler Pacifica plug in hybrid one twenty twenty three Chrysler three hundred and a twenty twenty five Chrysler Voyager. There's only four.
Things listed on this website, so that's all it is. So they don't even make the minivan anymore.
Well, the Voyager is of an Evan.
Oh, they consider that a minivan. Okay, so four models, and it sounds like two of those, or at least one of those, is an electric version of one of the other models. Not a whole lot there now that.
Well, they've only got one listed for twenty twenty five.
Wow. Wow, Maybe they're not all out yet. But here's my point. I'm seeing more and more problems with Chrysler, to the point that it's The article I was reading also pointed out that Chrysler has this tremendous backlog of EV's and if you notice, I don't talk about EV's anymore. I haven't for the past six or seven months because I kind of think I said to myself, you know, it's creating too much of a ruckus, and it's upsetting the listenership on some sides of the coin, and I want to be a neutral, you know what. I'm just gonna let nature take its course, and I think it is. And what really kind of got me going on Chrysler was this. We had a twenty eleven Chrysler Town and Country in the shop this week, and I think I talked to you about this two weeks ago that I was waiting for the tip them the totally integrated power module to come in. We had to replace the underhood fuse box or the control module for the vehicle, which is actually a computer in fuse box and relays under the hood. So by some miracle, Chrysler actually found one and sent me one. Now they're remanning it all right, meaning they take the old ones apart, they figure out what's wrong with them, and they re manufacture them and put them together, which okay, great. I'm grateful to get anything I can for this twelve going on thirteen year old vehicle. Here's the crazy part. One of the connectors, the C four connector to be exact because they number them connector one, two, three, four, five, sixty seven so on. The C four connector has up to sixteen wires in it, and you know we spent seven hundred dollars for this replacement. Tip them and you start reading the instructions because I don't know. I'm one of those weird mechanics. I actually read what I'm trying to fix. Instructions. Usually I read them after the fact, but I thought in this case I would read them before because it was taped right to the top of the module. I mean, in all fairness, usually I'm a heye that I put it together right. Look, let's read the instructions and see if I did it. But in this case, I did it beforehand. Why is Chrysler telling me to move four wires out of the sixteen wire connector and swap them, swap the white green with the white orange and the white ten with the white yellow. Well, wait a minute, Pen eleven has a black wire in it. It doesn't have a white yellow, So what wire do I swap. Wait, I have to match wire colors, but yet my pen eleven is a black it's not a white yellow. We had to look through I mean it was like Webster's Dictionary of Bulletins to find the comment where and in the case where you have a black wire swap it Anyway, Now, the scary part is the instructions for putting this tip them in were printed as per Chrysler in twenty fourteen, ten years ago. The part is for a twenty eleven vehicle. The remanufacturing of this part, as per the tag in the box, took place in twenty twenty two. How come we haven't updated the instructions to include that bulletin? And I say, it's because everybody's running around corporate offices worrying about if they have enough pencils and pencil sharpeners and snacks in the executive lounge. Because they're so worried about going out of business they can't worry about everything else. It's ridiculous. You know, there's that moment, it's like spin the magic wheel. God, I hope this works. You know it's Chrysler's in trouble. Take it from me and turning wrenches a long time. You know, when you start to see things where companies can't keep up with and I don't want to say little details, but little details, you know, what does that say for product support? If that was a computer and this was Microsoft Windows, we would roast them. There would be conversation in every forum, and yet we seem to be accepting of it. By the way it did work. We got it together, and it seemed that the paradox or the problem with this vehicle that made it so unique that we had to swap wiring around was this was a fully loaded twenty eleven town in country, and it had fog lights. And evidently they didn't put fog lights into many of these vehicles, and since it was such a rare option, it changed the configuration of the underhood fuse box and you know how it was supposed to work. I'm actually going to do a video about it. The tip and went back because it's a core we had to give it back to Chrysler. But I've got the instruction book at the shop and I think I'm going to lay out a video this week and post it up to the YouTube channel, just to show you and try to explain what was going on, and you know, here's what we did, and here's what we had to do, because I think it's important for you to see it. Plus, I think if anybody else is out there and they're doing a late model Chrysler town in country, they'll know it might be a resource, it might be a reference for somebody to help them, because nobody should have to go through that. It's it's ridiculous, you know. I see a lot of problems with a lot of car companies. People ask me all the time, you know, what should they buy? And I'm getting leery of Chrysler. If Chrysler can't get me correct parts. And this isn't the first time we had We've had more than a few. We've got more than a few. We had a twenty twelve Jeep Grand Cherokee Again, how many how many Jeep Grand Cherokees did did Jeep make in twenty twelve? Parent company Stilantis now right, the one where the CEO resigned this week? How many? How many Jeeps did they make in twenty twelve? A gazillion, two gazillion left front drive axle for this vehicle outer space intergalactic back order doesn't exist. They're still making it or so they're saying they haven't. They haven't ruled it obsolete yet. But you know, it's it's just it's just not to be found. And you know, you kind of got to say to yourself, why what do you buy? I don't know, I'll tell you what. And then I read in the news. Have you seen the story about Nissan. I'm gonna pick on everybody today, Merry Christmas. Have you seen the story in the news about Nissan? There was an article on the Wall Street Journal. They're giving Nissan twelve to fourteen months to survive before they go and Honda, which I hope they don't because Nissan will just pull Honda under. I think they could, even though Honda so gigundis, but Nissan is rumored to be on the chopping block and maybe in the executioner's block because it's not doing well, you know. And it's funny, right you read the comments about Nissan and it was such a such a reliable, solid company, and it's changed hands so many times in terms of ownership. I think in the last couple of ten years that you know, I don't think there are car people running car companies anymore. And it's starting to show. It's starting to crack. Not all car company. I think Toyota is being run by car people. I think Honda's being run by car people, guys that you know, get it, real engineers. I think GM is struggling to come back to being a car company. Ford. There's a lot going on at Ford. I think Ford's lost its quality edge. And I think you read about it all the times that tense speed automatic transmission is driving everybody nuts, you know, and I hope Ford does make it. I like for it. I think Ford. I think Ford had some good products. I'm not convinced of current stuff. Somebody was telling me today that they went out looking at a mid level, mid mid mid option to equipped F one fifty pickup brand new. It was sixty six thousand dollars for a pickup truck, a four wheel drive, you know, F one fifty. Nothing crazy, you know, air conditioning, power, windows, power breaks, the usual, you know, nuts, absolutely nuts. So the future of order repair looks bright, and I can't imagine where it's going to go. Hey, you know, it's Christmas. I don't know if I should do this, but I will. And you know we've got I've got I'm looking at I'm looking at the gift library, the things I was supposed to hand out during the course of the year, and I figured it. Now it's Christmas, and now we'll start to hand them out. I have in front of me the complete book. You know, this might be a collector's item. I don't know if I should give this away. The complete book of Dodge and Plymouth muscle cars, every model from nineteen sixty to today. Let's see what does it go back to. Let me look it up in the table of contents. I'll tell you what. I don't want to beat the clock. Let me pull over, take the pause. When I come back, we'll talk about the book giveaway. And I want to give away this book this weekend. So the complete Book of Dodge and Plymouth muscle Cars, every model from nineteen sixty to today. Tom Ray, my eminent engineer and partner in domicile here is the judge. So be nice to Tom. Don't say anything about the giants, and he might give it to you. I'll be back right after this. I'm ronnin Nanny and the car Doctor. Don't go anywhere.
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Five five five six zero ninety nine zero zero. And now back to Ron. You know, this book goes all the way up. It starts nineteen sixty muscle Cars, Mo Part muscle Cars, and it goes all the way up through the Dodge Challenger twenty twenty three. So there you go. That's we're gonna give that away this weekend. I don't know where. I just posted it up on Facebook if you want to see pictures of it. So I told everybody they have to call it and be nice to Tom, which is easy to do with such a nice guy. Yeah, sure, okay, let's go back to the phones.
Umm.
Oh, by the way, research Kathy wrote me. She looked it up. The Chrysler three hundred is discontinued as of this year. So now how many models do they have?
Tom? What is that?
Leaving with two? One? One right? One? So they're making so all they make is the minivan? Is that crazy? Christ?
There?
Walter p is rolling over in his grave brother, you know, because Walter P wasn't you know, and he was an engineer way back in the day. Said, just just said what they become. Let's let's go over to Pete in Pennsylvania see what this is all about.
Pete.
Welcome to the car doctor, sir, how can I help?
Well? Thank you? First of all, let's not forget it's Pearl Harbor Day. I don't know if you mentioned that earlier.
Thank you. I appreciate that. I was going to it. I wanted to see if anybody did you, sir, are a patriot? Thank you very much. You know, it's It's funny.
I was.
Growing up, so I was listening to the news out of New York City Today and the NBC Today Show their big announcement. They said, hey, you know, today's December the seventh, and I went, okay, here it comes. Yep, today's the day that we're gonna And there was some kakamaimi, some kind of sale thing that goes on every year in the city, and they were highlighting that, and I'm thinking, wait a minute, what I guess because the greatest generation is almost gone now and we don't have to talk about it. You know, it's nonsense, it really is. But you Today's Pearl Harbord Day. Eight oh three Hawaiian time, I think it was in the morning on that Sunday morning.
Thank you. I figure correct if my father was in the Pacific in World War two.
So yeah, just a whole other generation of people. Absolutely. So how can I help you today, Pete?
Well, in your last segment you said Ford had good products quote unquote, so I want to follow up on that. I basically have a nineteen thirty one Ford Model, a Sadan cool all stopped. My parents bought it back in nineteen fifty seven, and I learned to drive in the car in nineteen sixty six, giving my age away, and basically since then it hasn't been driven much. And it was driven up by my dad, given to me, and parked in my barn in twenty ten. So it's been sitting at my barn for fourteen years now, not run at all. And I just wanted to ask you for your reckon as to what do I have to do before starting it or trying it even start it up and running it? It does I put the crank in, It does crank easily, right, That's my question. I don't has compression and everything else, but it just it sat there for fourteen years. What do I need to do?
Number one. Well, I'd drain the oil, right, you know, I would drain the oil. I would pull plugs out of it, shoot a little squirre of oil into each cylinder, put the plugs back in. I'm just funny like that, you know.
I would.
I would give it a little bit of time, let it sit overnight, let the oil sort of you know, move itself around, and make sure that there's some lubrication that way, so when you start it we don't have any issues. And then I would obviously fill it with fresh oil. I would hand crank it and make sure everything is moving freely and not using the fuel from the tank. I would put an alternate fuel supply in this just to see if it fires. And if it fires and runs, we're good. You know. I think that's as far as far as getting the engine running, you know, obviously.
Which is really what I would like to do.
Yeah, you know, obviously changing coolant, and if it's wet, we're gonna change. We're gonna change whatever's wet coolant, transfluid, differential fluid, whatever, you know. Obviously, look at the brakes, look at the tires, all the rubber components, you know, just all the things that it would normally expect to do maintenance on you know, but r my.
Yeah, my big thought was just to get the engine running, so after that I can play it and do what i want. But training you oil, pull the plugs. Uh, you'd squirt some oil in each of the cylinder, crank it.
And hand crank it, and then put and then put the plugs back in. You know, it's gonna smoke a little blue. Who cares? Uh? You know, you could even use the plugs that are in there. You're gonna even if even if you foul them a little bit or they have some carbon on them, Who cares. We just want to get it running. We just want to put a little heat in the cylinders, you know, just to see how it reacts. And then and then once i see that it runs and it's solid that way and I've got good oil pressure, you know, I'm gonna then shut it off fill it with coolant. You know, I'm an even worried about coolant at this point. I just want to hear it fire right, and you know, then I'm gonna then I'm gonna put you know, I'm gonna put coolant in it, bring it up to temp. Let us sit there in idle for a half hour, forty minutes whatever, do a hot oil change, fill it with fresh oil.
You did, you did make a good suggestion of an alternate gas supply, because I don't know if it was put away with any gas in it, or it is put away and the gas has been drained out right, But prior to putting any gas in the gas tank, say I get it running with an alternate gas supply, would you recommend flushing the gas tank or something there might just be rust in it, or just run it through a filter paper or something.
Yeah, I would. I would pull the tank. It's easy enough, and you know, I would either look inside or have the tank boiled out and cleaned up. You know, fourteen years is a long time, and since since there's some unknowns here, and then if there is any rust in the tank, we can have it seal coated. They can seal coat the inside of the tank to keep the rust from circulating around. And then you know, obviously go through the carburetor. Once we know the engine runs, get the car rebuilt, and there's all kinds of parts available for that. So that's that's an easy fix. But get it run and built, Pete. I'm sorry, get it run and Pete and you know, let me know what happens. We can kind of talk from there, all right, kiddo, I gotta go. The clock's gonna take me, but you keep going, and good thoughts about Pearl Harbor. I'm running, Ady, and the car Doctor I'm back right after this seats. Let's see. Oh, by the way, research Kathy once again has the chime in thank God for her and tell us that no, they have two Pacifica and Voyager, So thanks Kath, keep them coming. So but two vehicles. I wonder how many cars? Kathy and she'll do this and we'll talk about it the next break. Kathy, do some research and find out how many cars did Chrysler make in a year at their at their peak, you know, how many different models? Five, seven, eleven. It used to be that you've welcome to a Chrysler showroom. There were cars all over the place. But I guess not so much anymore. But anyway, let's go to Let's go to Daniel in Wisconsin. Daniel, welcome to the Car Doctor, Sir. How can I help hi?
How are you Ron?
I am good? How are you?
I awesome? Talking to you, man, I listened to you every day. I appreciate you podcast and Saturday.
Yeah, hey, you like that? How do you like those classic podcasts from fifteen years ago? Twenty years ago? Isn't that crazy stuff?
Yeah, I've been doing.
Life has changed a lot, you know. I listened to those when I post them up, and I think, and it's funny. I kind of remember the calls, which is bad, but you know, I tend not to forget a lot of things. But it's just, you know, the way we fixed cars in two thousand and seven versus today just just nuts. It's just so very different. The market has changed so radically, so cars are so different now. Anyway, how can I help young man?
Well, I had bought a twenty three Ford Maverick and we like it, but size there's a button here? Yeah, there is it? Man? The ride is I feel every bump yep of Wisconsin romans yep. And what can I change.
Without changing the truck?
Taking all the dufts done on my wallet?
Yeah, you know it's it's I'll be honest with you. I've seen the Maverick, I've ridden in the Maverick. I don't like the Maverick and This is just one of the reasons. It's it's it's got such a wimpy little suspension, you know. It's it's just it's got no guts to it. And I don't know of anything in the aftermarket right now, like as somebody come out with better shocks or a better suspension system for I haven't. I haven't seen anything. It's been a while since I last looked, because I was kind of curious when these first came out, So I I honestly don't know if there is anything you can do, Daniel. I'm not gonna lie to you, as you wouldn't expect me to. Uh sure, hey, listen, you know you can try new seats, you know. I wondered, if it's possible, what what different wheels and tires would do for that truck, because it's got what on it, It's got what size rims are on that.
Do you know?
I don't even know. Yeah, I did not lie.
I wonder if we could put a slightly bigger tire, give it a little bit more, but then I'd have to reprogram, you know, if there was an optional size, which I don't think there was. I think they only came with one sized tire. But if there was a way to put a larger tire on it and then program computers accordingly. So I don't skew numbers and change things, I would, by all means try that just to see, you know, a little more tire.
One, I got the tire. Somebody put a cooper around there, so I think the guy was trying to change that, right. But yeah, I mean even though I talked to a guy that's got a lariat and it's the same with you know, ride quality. Wow, you picked that much more for lariat and it's the same, right, Yeah, Ford, you really screwed up.
Yeah, I tell you Ford has kind of lost their way in a lot of in a lot of things. And I see this on a repeated basis. I was looking at a presentation about the ten speed automatic transmission that are in Fords, and they were pointing out the weak points and they're so obvious you wonder how the engineers missed it. And you know, for all my listeners out there that have the F one, fifty two, fifty series pickup trucks, they know what I'm talking about. They're they're living it, you know. It's it's I kind of thought Ford lost its way. We have a couple of customers with the Ford Transit, the big van which replaced the Econoline van, which made no sense to me because I mean, you know, again, how many how many Econoline vans did they make over the years? Another gazillion. Here's another gazillion numbered model vehicle, right, and they create this transit connect in this transit that is so difficult to work on, and the full size transits, all they do is chew up breaks and tires. Every twenty thousand miles, you're putting one or the other or both on. And I see this all day long, and I'm like, how could they do this? And then to do the breaks on a transit van the more heavy duty versions is horrible. It's it's it's the rear axle has to come apart and just to do breaks, to do rotors, and you wonder, you know why not a well thought out vehicle. Absolutely not a well thought out vehicle by any stretch. So I think Ford's got some growing to do. I think They've got some some thinnan to do, as we like to say, and some things to correct. So but yeah, your Maverick is going to stay the way, it is my friend until somebody in the aftermarket re engineers it. Hey give it a shot. What have you got to lose?
Well, I want to thank you, and you are right about mechanics because I lost mine and I was with them for twenty years and I would take it into the shop and he knew what I wanted. If it was over a certain amount, he would call me. Other than that, he would fix it and then I would pay him.
Right, And I think, I yeah, I listen. I don't think not everybody. I don't want to say everybody, but there are some people out there that think so cock eyed about mechanics. True story. And then I'm going to go. I had a woman called the shop this week. What's your availability for work? And I said, well, we're you know, we've got some time in a week. We're about a week and a half. I think we were this was Monday, so I think this is Wednesday, so we're about a week and a half out. I said, what do you have? She says, I have an O seven Honda honesty okay, And you know what do you need to get done? Well, I need valve cover gaskets in a set of spark plugs and I said, well, listen, your first time to us. You're new to us. I said, you know, we're going to do a seasonal checklist. We do a seasonal checklist. Here's the cost. Yeah, I want to baseline the vehicle. I've never seen the vehicle before. You know, I want to make sure you've got me working on the front of the car. I want to make sure the back half of the car isn't going to fall off. And she flat out didn't want to do that. And I can't understand that. You know, you go to a doctor for the first time, what does he do? They give you a physical right, heart rate, blood pressure, living in your mouth, look in other places. You know, it's it's it's crazy. And I think I think people that are impractical and don't approach mechanics correctly are going to find they're going to constantly go through mechanics. You know, everybody that's come into my shop and said, hey, I can't find a decent mechanic, and they roll through the list and after about the sixth or seventh mechanic in their lifetime time, I keep going. You know, there's one common denominator here. You know, maybe it's not the mechanics. Maybe it's you and people have to start to accept that.
Yeah, because every time I see him, I beg him to open the shop and he says I can, and I wish I would. Yeh.
It's well the cost, well, the cost alone, you know what it is to yeah, I mean, yeah, I know, it's a lot. It's just a lot. You know, you can describe what is it cost to open an order repair shop to words a lot? You know, it's it's just it's just that expensive. She asked me. She said, so what's your labor rate? I said, you know, yeah, it's one hundred and seventy five dollars an hour and she almost fell over.
Yeah, I don't care what the labor rate is because you're good.
Well, she said. Then I said, what do you think it should be? She says, oh, I don't know. Fifty sixty dollars an hour. I said, right, when you get back from nineteen fifty five, let me know how the trip was, and she hung up on me. I can't understand it. People have no sense of humor. I gotta go. I gotta go. Daniel. Listen, you're very welcome. You have a merry Christmas. I'm running any in the car. Doctor. We're back right after this. La la la, la la la. I could sing. My father used to say, go sing far far away. I would always tell him, I don't know that song. Let's go over to eric in Maryland. Run any of the car. Doctor at your service, sir, how can I help?
Hey?
Ron?
How are you good?
Sir? Thank you for having me on.
You're very welcome. What's cooking?
So I've gotta I want to I want to say two things real quick in recon recognizations for Pearl Harvard Day.
Thank you to all service members past and president.
Sure, even America safe and being great to Tom. The Patriots are three and three and ten right now now, and we all know the legacy prior. So just hang on for the Giants, man.
Yeah, it's it's tough, do you know what? The good The good thing about the Giants is the season's over early, so you get's you get to spend a lot of time on Sunday doing other things. Yeah, you know.
It's they got a lot of good things coming up.
Yeah, I gotta you gotta hope. So, yeah, the Giants have great things coming. The season's over in four weeks. I think and then we're done, so thank god. But yeah, it's horrible. So what's cooking? How can I help you and your Honda today?
Yeah?
So I've got a two thousand and eight Honda Pilot. Uh, it's the value packets model with the three point five V six and it's the all will drive. I'm having crazy transmission issues. And I know that Honda had issues in like the three oh four versions. Right now, I've replaced like the selenoid A and B. I replaced selenoids. See, I've replaced the third and fourth transmission position sensor.
You've done all the external switches, is what you're saying?
Most of them? Yeah? Most of them?
Yeah?
Okay, And what kind of problems are you having?
So it started sporadically. Once the transmission fluid heated up for the next amount of time, maybe twenty minutes, maybe fifteen, it would just completely slip, okay, and I would put the car in neutral as I was driving, not recommended, but turn it off and then turn it back on, and then it would pick back up and it would engage and it would go. And now it's to the point where it will drive for maybe two minutes. But it's once that transmission fluid heats up, it's it's toast and it doesn't shift, it doesn't do anything. It just completely just read reps out, check.
In, check engine light codes. Issues I had.
I had a P seven zero four. I think first, I guess my main question is is it worth it? Too? Because I've talked to a couple of different mechanics. Is it worth it to just replace the transmission or to try to replace the torque converter?
First?
You know, I'm pretty handy. I did all the sensors and stuff myself. I just I wanted to get your your take on take on the current issue.
Okay, so this is a matter of economics and budget, all right, more so than vehicle. I will assume that the rest of the vehicles in tip top shape. Just just listening to how you just.
Listen to It's perfect. Yeah, it actually in reference to Pearl Harbor. It actually uh so, I live pretty close to Dover Air Force Base, right, And I bought it from a gentleman that buys vehicles off of service members when they deploy. So he and it had a perfect service record. Nothing really related to the transmission as much, but I did the trans flush and all that stuff two or three times and I'm still just having.
Issues with it.
Yeah, how many how many miles were on it when you bought it?
I want to say probably to.
Ten maybe, because that will look like they had the time.
Cover and everything replaced at like one point fifty, so I know the motor's.
Solid right, Well that because because how long you've owned and maintained the vehicle will affect my answer. And I'll tell you what. Sit tight, let me pull overtake the pause, and when I come back, we'll finish up and we'll talk about it. I'm running any and the car Doctor. We'll return right after this. And Eric, are you're still there? Running? Ending of the car doctor here?
Yeah?
Okay, So you acquired this eight Honda Pilot at about two hundred and ten thousand miles a couple of years back, right, it's got how many miles on it now?
Thirty about?
So you went twenty thousand miles. Let's let's just call it what it is. What'd you pay for the car?
Thirty two hundred I believe, okay.
So you put you paid thirty two hundred dollars for it by New Jersey standards, I can tell you dealer installed transmission in that vehicle is about sixty five hundred bucks, so it's it's double the value of the vehicle. Of course, you know, I can make the argument of car is only worth what it's going to cost you to replace. So you know, my first thought goes to what would you replace it with? You'd have to go out and find another thirty two hundred dollars vehicle, you know, or maybe it's a five, maybe it's a yeah, maybe it's a five thousand dollars vehicle.
Now yeah, yeah, you're not gonna find You're not going to find a vehicle that big, right in this good condition, right.
Yeah.
I don't think it pays. I don't think it pays to do just the converter to address that part of your question, because if the converter's coming apart, it put all that contaminant, where did it go, you know, to go through the labor of pulling the trans I think that's silly. I would just put a unit in it. Now, would I put a unit in it? This is a marriage question. You're about to get married. You're gonna put a trends in this car. You're gonna have to drive it the next three to five years. And what does that look like two thousand and eight, twenty eighteen, twenty twenty eight. That vehicle is going to be twenty years old, twenty one years old, twenty nine, thirty twenty three. Yeah, it's gonna be twenty two to twenty three years old when you're done with it. What sort of parts will be out there? And as solid as you think the engine is, because you probably thought how solid the trans was. If we have an engine problem, if we start to burn oil, you know, this is a great what if car? What if this goes bid? What if that goes bid? Are you ready to stay married or are you going to get a divorce? You know, the sixty five hundred dollars or if you did it yourself, that unit over the counter has got to be every bit of thirty five hundred and four grand. Let's call it four grand. It's a nice round number. The car doesn't anoy you anything. You've driven it a couple of years. You paid thirty two hundred dollars for it to buy that out by the number of months driven except for the services, which is reasonable. The car doesn' annoy you a dome. But I think to put six thousand or four thousand and whatever into this vehicle to keep it going. That's a matter of how bad do you want this vehicle. I'm not saying not to, I'm just saying way the options carefully. And then if you put all this money, you hit the sixty five hundred dollars and whatever and it got totaled in an accident two weeks later, what would your insurance company.
Pay you for it?
And that's a problem, A lot of thinking to do here. Eric, let me know what you decide. I'm not an ending in the car Doctor make aren't expensive, they're priceless. Celia M.