As Ben and Noel continue their conversation with novelist and art historian David Adams Cleveland, the group finds themselves going far beyond the world of Alger Hiss. In the second part of this two-part series, the guys learn more about David's award-winning work as an art historian, the ways in which history, research and fiction converge -- and a little about the oft-ignored effects of history on geopolitics.

CLASSIC: The War of the Stray Dog: How Far Would You Go For Your Pet?
37:09

Ancient Wonders of the Modern World: the Lighthouse of Alexandria
27:55

People Knew the Earth Was Round Way Earlier Than You Think
41:31