Ridiculous Histories, a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much for tuning in. Let's hear a shout out for the man the myth legend, super producer, mister Max Williams.

Ridiculous Histories, a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome back to the show, fellow Ridiculous Historians. Thank you, as always so much for tuning in. Let's hear a shout out for the man the myth legend, super producer, mister Max Williams.

I get weirder and weirder on the way.

I get weirder and weirder on the way.

We say Williams. At the end, we'll accidentally invent a new name for Max. At some point, you're Noel Brown. I've been bowling. We are continuing our series on accidental inventions throughout history with the help of our research associate Jeff And before we really start, as our pal Dylan would say, dig it up the rudabagas he does he does at the weirdest times. No, You and I decided off air that we were we weren't just uh spinning spinning tails and blowing smoke when we called ourselves an accidental invention. Before we get into proper accidental inventions in today's episode, we thought we would share with you, guys, uh an origin story of Ridiculous History, which is itself an accidental invention.

We say Williams. At the end, we'll accidentally invent a new name for Max. At some point, you're Noel Brown. I've been bowling. We are continuing our series on accidental inventions throughout history with the help of our research associate Jeff And before we really start, as our pal Dylan would say, dig it up the rudabagas he does he does at the weirdest times. No, You and I decided off air that we were we weren't just uh spinning spinning tails and blowing smoke when we called ourselves an accidental invention. Before we get into proper accidental inventions in today's episode, we thought we would share with you, guys, uh an origin story of Ridiculous History, which is itself an accidental invention.

And it is itself, in a way, a very regular source that we use to this day. For this show. You'll recall in the last episode we cited our alma mater How Stuff Works a couple of times, and we're going to do that again in this one. Originally, when Ben and I were working under the House Stuff Works website slash kind of podcast thing, we were asked by our boss to make a quick and dirty podcast that would help satisfy like a momentary ad deal six weeks. Six weeks, you guys, six weeks. Just kill it and use the articles on the house Stuff Works website that were published under the Moniker Ridiculous History. We can't claim credit for that one as your research material, and we're like, cool, we'll take one for the team. We'll do this. Boss talking about our beloved at Major DOMO Admiral Connell Byrne, who has just continued to rise in the world and he's actually it's weird.

And it is itself, in a way, a very regular source that we use to this day. For this show. You'll recall in the last episode we cited our alma mater How Stuff Works a couple of times, and we're going to do that again in this one. Originally, when Ben and I were working under the House Stuff Works website slash kind of podcast thing, we were asked by our boss to make a quick and dirty podcast that would help satisfy like a momentary ad deal six weeks. Six weeks, you guys, six weeks. Just kill it and use the articles on the house Stuff Works website that were published under the Moniker Ridiculous History. We can't claim credit for that one as your research material, and we're like, cool, we'll take one for the team. We'll do this. Boss talking about our beloved at Major DOMO Admiral Connell Byrne, who has just continued to rise in the world and he's actually it's weird.

I used to be so pissed at him, uh, because I thought that a boss at a Jack donnagey level had no right to be as cool as he is.

I used to be so pissed at him, uh, because I thought that a boss at a Jack donnagey level had no right to be as cool as he is.

He is cool. He's yeah and super cool. Like Gate he.

He is cool. He's yeah and super cool. Like Gate he.

Gave you a s or something, gave me a with Juno one oh six from his band that he used to be because of course called Adam.

Gave you a s or something, gave me a with Juno one oh six from his band that he used to be because of course called Adam.

And here's the kicker. He said, this doesn't it doesn't work, but I bet you could like fix it. And I had another one and I was going to use it to scavenge for parts. Turns out I took I took it to my synth guy because I have one, and he was like, oh, it's just wired for a UK power exactly. All he had to do was like do some very quick fix and it was a pristine. It even came in the original case emblazoned with the stencil for his band Atam.

And here's the kicker. He said, this doesn't it doesn't work, but I bet you could like fix it. And I had another one and I was going to use it to scavenge for parts. Turns out I took I took it to my synth guy because I have one, and he was like, oh, it's just wired for a UK power exactly. All he had to do was like do some very quick fix and it was a pristine. It even came in the original case emblazoned with the stencil for his band Atam.

Where Science meets Magic. Uh yes, so also, uh, the I can share one story with Kennel. We have we He and I have long had an ongoing discourse because he's a fantastic writer as well. We've had a long discourse about books, so we will we will chat with each other, non related to work about just different different.

Where Science meets Magic. Uh yes, so also, uh, the I can share one story with Kennel. We have we He and I have long had an ongoing discourse because he's a fantastic writer as well. We've had a long discourse about books, so we will we will chat with each other, non related to work about just different different.

Books we like.

Books we like.

And anyway, the final chapter of the Accidental Invention of Ridiculous History is we, as Noel said, took one for the team and then on maybe week five ran out of articles. So we read out of articles and on the say like the same, we recognize we're running low on research material that morning, and that afternoon we get the We get the marching orders to continue the show forever. And the only reason we're able to do that accidental invention is thanks to.

And anyway, the final chapter of the Accidental Invention of Ridiculous History is we, as Noel said, took one for the team and then on maybe week five ran out of articles. So we read out of articles and on the say like the same, we recognize we're running low on research material that morning, and that afternoon we get the We get the marching orders to continue the show forever. And the only reason we're able to do that accidental invention is thanks to.

You ridiculous historians. You said it, Ben, no question. Thanks for hanging with us for low these many years, and for any new folks out there, welcome, and I don't know. We love doing the show and it is a great example of an accidental invention that ended up working out. It's something that you and I do every single week and we will until the wheels fall off metaphorically to use a car car stuff reference there and Hughes. Thanks to Max and for being such a great producer, super producer and partner and star trek nerd and Skyrim aficionado. We couldn't do it without you, buddy, correspond that's right, that's true. Ccn't mind.

You ridiculous historians. You said it, Ben, no question. Thanks for hanging with us for low these many years, and for any new folks out there, welcome, and I don't know. We love doing the show and it is a great example of an accidental invention that ended up working out. It's something that you and I do every single week and we will until the wheels fall off metaphorically to use a car car stuff reference there and Hughes. Thanks to Max and for being such a great producer, super producer and partner and star trek nerd and Skyrim aficionado. We couldn't do it without you, buddy, correspond that's right, that's true. Ccn't mind.

Can I jump real quick to illustrate how cool Conne is because a couple of years ago at our Christmas party, which we had our Holidays party we had at the Claremont rooftop, I remember Kna and I were just talking about he.

Can I jump real quick to illustrate how cool Conne is because a couple of years ago at our Christmas party, which we had our Holidays party we had at the Claremont rooftop, I remember Kna and I were just talking about he.

Had met me.

Had met me.

I met him in person for the first time, just like a little bit before that, and he was just like saw me watching the Hawks game. He's like, oh your Hawks fand he'd given me like three tickets three of the I heard tickets, like hundred me down, found me, sent me the email.

I met him in person for the first time, just like a little bit before that, and he was just like saw me watching the Hawks game. He's like, oh your Hawks fand he'd given me like three tickets three of the I heard tickets, like hundred me down, found me, sent me the email.

Yeah, he'll do it. Yes, he's a good dude. Everyone's got a good Connell story.

Yeah, he'll do it. Yes, he's a good dude. Everyone's got a good Connell story.

So after this was done, So after this this, a few months later, we're up there and I'm breaking down the difference between a pick and roll and ISO and basketball with him and Sean Titne, who you know, doesn't who's in charge of the sports play So I don't explain this stuff to him. But Connle's like super engaging. He's like really loved the conversation. Like, man, this is actually like to your point, I'm like, I'm supposed to hate I thought I was supposed to.

So after this was done, So after this this, a few months later, we're up there and I'm breaking down the difference between a pick and roll and ISO and basketball with him and Sean Titne, who you know, doesn't who's in charge of the sports play So I don't explain this stuff to him. But Connle's like super engaging. He's like really loved the conversation. Like, man, this is actually like to your point, I'm like, I'm supposed to hate I thought I was supposed to.

Hate corporate overlords.

Hate corporate overlords.

Well, Ben, you quote you've quote him all the time with is uh what is it?

Well, Ben, you quote you've quote him all the time with is uh what is it?

The world is both understandable and worth understanding.

The world is both understandable and worth understanding.

Yeah, and Connell is both interesting and interested, and we.

Yeah, and Connell is both interesting and interested, and we.

Know he probably doesn't listen to the show.

Know he probably doesn't listen to the show.

So now going on, been on. I think he's like the head of the entire IR digital universe. At this point, the guys, we should just text him later, but you should.

So now going on, been on. I think he's like the head of the entire IR digital universe. At this point, the guys, we should just text him later, but you should.

But look at us. We are at accidental invention. We are a little podcast train that could uh post being bitten by radioactive microphones, a jokeer not letting go.

But look at us. We are at accidental invention. We are a little podcast train that could uh post being bitten by radioactive microphones, a jokeer not letting go.

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Uh.

We wanted to, with the help of our pal Jeff, explore some other uh accidental inventions. We we talked about some world changing ones. Maybe we uh dip our toes or start walking up and down the stairs with a favorite toy of yesteryear, the slinky.

We wanted to, with the help of our pal Jeff, explore some other uh accidental inventions. We we talked about some world changing ones. Maybe we uh dip our toes or start walking up and down the stairs with a favorite toy of yesteryear, the slinky.

Ah, yes, the slinky spring a spring, a marvelous thing. Everyone knows it's slinky. Uh. It defined an era, you know, it was like the thing I'm a jig that everyone had to have. I did you have? Honest, I'd certainly have had multiples. You know. Now they're still around and they'll be like plastic ones made with different color gradients. And you know, the original one was literally this kind of industrial metal.

Ah, yes, the slinky spring a spring, a marvelous thing. Everyone knows it's slinky. Uh. It defined an era, you know, it was like the thing I'm a jig that everyone had to have. I did you have? Honest, I'd certainly have had multiples. You know. Now they're still around and they'll be like plastic ones made with different color gradients. And you know, the original one was literally this kind of industrial metal.

Coil fingers smell weird after yeah, like I knowell you know about your your feelings about handling metal.

Coil fingers smell weird after yeah, like I knowell you know about your your feelings about handling metal.

The slinky would not have been a toy for young men.

The slinky would not have been a toy for young men.

And it's originally what's that old line from Egon spangler. Uh, I had a slinky once as a child, but I straightened it.

And it's originally what's that old line from Egon spangler. Uh, I had a slinky once as a child, but I straightened it.

That's that sounds like a far side panel, doesn't It's like, oh my god, it's about linear thinking. Uh. Well, that's interesting that you say that, Ben, because you know you while you might think that the slinky came from the mind of some sort of like Willy Wonka esque figure, you know not not. The truth came from somebody much more square in the best way spring like. Even during World War Two, an engineer by the name of Richard James, which makes some only my second favorite Richard James. Uh one up only by Richard D. James of Aphex twin. That's incredible. Musician technologists out there, weirdos alive.

That's that sounds like a far side panel, doesn't It's like, oh my god, it's about linear thinking. Uh. Well, that's interesting that you say that, Ben, because you know you while you might think that the slinky came from the mind of some sort of like Willy Wonka esque figure, you know not not. The truth came from somebody much more square in the best way spring like. Even during World War Two, an engineer by the name of Richard James, which makes some only my second favorite Richard James. Uh one up only by Richard D. James of Aphex twin. That's incredible. Musician technologists out there, weirdos alive.

He's always do Yeah, he's always like. He's always like please, Ben, Richard was my father's name. Call me Penis.

He's always do Yeah, he's always like. He's always like please, Ben, Richard was my father's name. Call me Penis.

That's also a good joke about Richard versus Dick. Doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense as a nickname is a shortening of Richard. Never understood it. But this Richard James wanted to help the troops by inventing stable springs that could be used to bolster the technology and within naval ships. It would help stabilize I think the you know, the ride on rough waters.

That's also a good joke about Richard versus Dick. Doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense as a nickname is a shortening of Richard. Never understood it. But this Richard James wanted to help the troops by inventing stable springs that could be used to bolster the technology and within naval ships. It would help stabilize I think the you know, the ride on rough waters.

Yeah, because these are very sensitive instruments, right then as now and all right, the story is our non aphex Richard is he's he's working on these springs, and he's saying, okay, look, I need to make sure that if the seas do not favor our boys at war, the royal, right, then we can still save the instruments via the miracle of coils.

Yeah, because these are very sensitive instruments, right then as now and all right, the story is our non aphex Richard is he's he's working on these springs, and he's saying, okay, look, I need to make sure that if the seas do not favor our boys at war, the royal, right, then we can still save the instruments via the miracle of coils.

And while he is.

And while he is.

Working on these springs figuring out you know, uh, correct materials, tensile strength and so on, he knocks one of the springs off the table. This is the accident. And when it is knocked off the table, it doesn't just a plump low and behold this mysterious spring. This coil walks down the floor le boop.

Working on these springs figuring out you know, uh, correct materials, tensile strength and so on, he knocks one of the springs off the table. This is the accident. And when it is knocked off the table, it doesn't just a plump low and behold this mysterious spring. This coil walks down the floor le boop.

I was trying to make a real version of it.

I was trying to make a real version of it.

That's that's what I don't know why my version was French la boop le boo boom.

That's that's what I don't know why my version was French la boop le boo boom.

It does seem like a bit of a French invention, that's right. It's almost like you know the thing that the clown that you knock down and then it just sort of pops right back up. It's a booy, right, But then it's also a toy. This was a spring. I'm sorry, I totally said it wrong. Initially I was saying, like, these were designed to help stabilize a ship. That's not nothing's gonna do that. If you're on rough water. You're on rough water. But you can help safeguard the delicate instruments, right, that are so crucial to your ability to navigate and to like you know, shoot missiles and whatnot.

It does seem like a bit of a French invention, that's right. It's almost like you know the thing that the clown that you knock down and then it just sort of pops right back up. It's a booy, right, But then it's also a toy. This was a spring. I'm sorry, I totally said it wrong. Initially I was saying, like, these were designed to help stabilize a ship. That's not nothing's gonna do that. If you're on rough water. You're on rough water. But you can help safeguard the delicate instruments, right, that are so crucial to your ability to navigate and to like you know, shoot missiles and whatnot.

Super super tough, especially the surveillance instrumentation.

Super super tough, especially the surveillance instrumentation.

Shock absorption would would be what this is going for, right, And it was real good at that, But it was also I think, if I'm remembering the physics of it, it transfers energy like from you know, it basically stores potential energy and sort of moves it from one stage to the next down like a stairstep or whatever.

Shock absorption would would be what this is going for, right, And it was real good at that, But it was also I think, if I'm remembering the physics of it, it transfers energy like from you know, it basically stores potential energy and sort of moves it from one stage to the next down like a stairstep or whatever.

And then that's yeah, yeah, you nailed it. That's what stands out to Richie James because not only does this thing walk its way down to the floor after he knocks it off the table, but then it recoils itself and assumes its original shape. It stands upright, and look, this is another sort of fleming spencer thing.

And then that's yeah, yeah, you nailed it. That's what stands out to Richie James because not only does this thing walk its way down to the floor after he knocks it off the table, but then it recoils itself and assumes its original shape. It stands upright, and look, this is another sort of fleming spencer thing.

This guy.

This guy.

Yeah, yeah, Just so this guy could have said, my job is too tough.

Yeah, yeah, Just so this guy could have said, my job is too tough.

I keep springs walking away from me like a dick.

I keep springs walking away from me like a dick.

But instead, with his optimism which he must have had, or perhaps with simply his feverish curiosity coming to all inventors to he said, hang on, this might be funny.

But instead, with his optimism which he must have had, or perhaps with simply his feverish curiosity coming to all inventors to he said, hang on, this might be funny.

Oh yeah, a what if we could make this little hoppy boy? Uh?

Oh yeah, a what if we could make this little hoppy boy? Uh?

What if we can to make something of him? So he goes back home and he's married. He has a wife named Betty. And you know how it is when you're in a long term relationship and someone is super into their job and they this happened.

What if we can to make something of him? So he goes back home and he's married. He has a wife named Betty. And you know how it is when you're in a long term relationship and someone is super into their job and they this happened.

You're about tired of hearing about it, right, But this happens.

You're about tired of hearing about it, right, But this happens.

Yeah, let's be honest, this happens to you and me all the time when we're dating folks, and you know, we'll especially.

Yeah, let's be honest, this happens to you and me all the time when we're dating folks, and you know, we'll especially.

Strangers on the street, are tired of hearing about it.

Strangers on the street, are tired of hearing about it.

Right. And so he goes and he tells his wife about the idea, and she's probably doing that internet meme of going uh huh, oh wow.

Right. And so he goes and he tells his wife about the idea, and she's probably doing that internet meme of going uh huh, oh wow.

That's crazy. Okay, all right, that's really oh wow wow. Okay, yep, So but you know what, No, she's into it. She's She's supportive of old Dick James, and in nineteen forty four, she decides to help him out by lending a clever name to this accidental invention.

That's crazy. Okay, all right, that's really oh wow wow. Okay, yep, So but you know what, No, she's into it. She's She's supportive of old Dick James, and in nineteen forty four, she decides to help him out by lending a clever name to this accidental invention.

This is the weirdest thing I did not No, you know, we're etymology nerds. I had always assumed that slinky was created specifically for this brand of toy. But slinky is a real word, meaning sneak and sinuous movement.

This is the weirdest thing I did not No, you know, we're etymology nerds. I had always assumed that slinky was created specifically for this brand of toy. But slinky is a real word, meaning sneak and sinuous movement.

All out line people talk about a slinky dress, you know, or like slinking around like an old tomcat. Right. I love the sinulous sleek movement. Okay, how can we make this thing a little less sexualized? Okay, we'll just keep it stark silver and we'll call it the slink. Just don't look it up right, right, wildly inappropriate. No one tell the kids.

All out line people talk about a slinky dress, you know, or like slinking around like an old tomcat. Right. I love the sinulous sleek movement. Okay, how can we make this thing a little less sexualized? Okay, we'll just keep it stark silver and we'll call it the slink. Just don't look it up right, right, wildly inappropriate. No one tell the kids.

So it comes to pass that they take out a loan to get a five hundred dollars loan in nineteen forty four. If we could inflation calculate, boop, dude, well, boom, five hundred dollars in nineteen forty four was only nine eighty five dollars in twenty cents, which is still you know, in the world of big corporations.

So it comes to pass that they take out a loan to get a five hundred dollars loan in nineteen forty four. If we could inflation calculate, boop, dude, well, boom, five hundred dollars in nineteen forty four was only nine eighty five dollars in twenty cents, which is still you know, in the world of big corporations.

Yeah, toy type to me, come on, you know, look out the door for less than ten grand.

Yeah, toy type to me, come on, you know, look out the door for less than ten grand.

So they co found, in a burst of humility, something they call James Industries in nineteen forty five. At that very same year, the slinky hit store shelves. At first, you know, there's what we call a learning curve for the market, like, how is this a value proposition in the world of dolls and you know, little action figures and toy cars. How can we convince people that this extremely nerdy, literal bundle of wire is a toy they should spend money.

So they co found, in a burst of humility, something they call James Industries in nineteen forty five. At that very same year, the slinky hit store shelves. At first, you know, there's what we call a learning curve for the market, like, how is this a value proposition in the world of dolls and you know, little action figures and toy cars. How can we convince people that this extremely nerdy, literal bundle of wire is a toy they should spend money.

On, oh Man exactly. You know, Ben, I actually had a pretty interesting encounter recently where there's some toy stores, specialty toy stores, as toy stores in general are less and less free, you know common, like you don't have KB toys, and I think Toys are Us is completely out of business. They are Fao Schwartz. I think that's what I'm talking about, Ben, Thank you, That's exactly what I'm talking about. In New York City there's still Fao Schwartz. And you might have seen some viral videos of this cute little kind of plush cafe where they're cooking with like plush toys and like like like plushy bacon and cats and it's very Japanese, but they have just a regular part of the toy store and in that I once walked in and they were doing these demonstrations of these like they had this one thing where it could make a coin like levitate and it was probably using some sort of gyroscopic technology. But the thing about it is the guy didn't tell you how it worked. You had to buy it and like see, but it was really cool and I almost bought it. I was really taken by this. So this is exactly what they do. They decide, Okay, people aren't quite wrapping their heads around this spring thing. We need to take this to the people and show them how it works. And what a what a absolute WoT it is.

On, oh Man exactly. You know, Ben, I actually had a pretty interesting encounter recently where there's some toy stores, specialty toy stores, as toy stores in general are less and less free, you know common, like you don't have KB toys, and I think Toys are Us is completely out of business. They are Fao Schwartz. I think that's what I'm talking about, Ben, Thank you, That's exactly what I'm talking about. In New York City there's still Fao Schwartz. And you might have seen some viral videos of this cute little kind of plush cafe where they're cooking with like plush toys and like like like plushy bacon and cats and it's very Japanese, but they have just a regular part of the toy store and in that I once walked in and they were doing these demonstrations of these like they had this one thing where it could make a coin like levitate and it was probably using some sort of gyroscopic technology. But the thing about it is the guy didn't tell you how it worked. You had to buy it and like see, but it was really cool and I almost bought it. I was really taken by this. So this is exactly what they do. They decide, Okay, people aren't quite wrapping their heads around this spring thing. We need to take this to the people and show them how it works. And what a what a absolute WoT it is.

Yeah, yeah, this is where you know, you're like Jesus doing demonstrytion in the street.

Yeah, yeah, this is where you know, you're like Jesus doing demonstrytion in the street.

Right.

Right.

There are four hundred slinky stocked during the Christmas shopping season at Gemble's department store in Philly. It's nineteen forty five and in less than two hours after them essentially saying look at this league, after two hours, all of the slinkies are sold. That's about they were sold for a dollar apiece, and that's about fourteen bucks each in today's value. We want to thank our friends over at the Smithsonian, specifically Rachel Alalensack for writing an excellent article the Accidental Invention of the Slinky.

There are four hundred slinky stocked during the Christmas shopping season at Gemble's department store in Philly. It's nineteen forty five and in less than two hours after them essentially saying look at this league, after two hours, all of the slinkies are sold. That's about they were sold for a dollar apiece, and that's about fourteen bucks each in today's value. We want to thank our friends over at the Smithsonian, specifically Rachel Alalensack for writing an excellent article the Accidental Invention of the Slinky.

Yep, yeah, no, it's true. And Ben, we can't talk about the slinky and it's sort of impact on popular culture without talking about log. Ah. Yeah, it's big, it's heavy. It's wood. It's big, it's heavy, it's wood. What rolls downstairs alone or in rolls over your neighbor's Dog's great for a snack and it fits on your back, it's log log log. Now, Brend and Stimpy was created by a dude who's not good. He did some bad things, but that was part of our childhood. And that was a pretty damn good parody of Slinky because the theme song that it had the spring spring of Marvel's thing. They basically you know Nailer but yeah, John k had some real issues with you know, courting young young women and not good. But sorry, I had to mention it didn't mean to make it out everybody's mind.

Yep, yeah, no, it's true. And Ben, we can't talk about the slinky and it's sort of impact on popular culture without talking about log. Ah. Yeah, it's big, it's heavy. It's wood. It's big, it's heavy, it's wood. What rolls downstairs alone or in rolls over your neighbor's Dog's great for a snack and it fits on your back, it's log log log. Now, Brend and Stimpy was created by a dude who's not good. He did some bad things, but that was part of our childhood. And that was a pretty damn good parody of Slinky because the theme song that it had the spring spring of Marvel's thing. They basically you know Nailer but yeah, John k had some real issues with you know, courting young young women and not good. But sorry, I had to mention it didn't mean to make it out everybody's mind.

The log story, the log parody. We also know that when they were writing the log parody, they may well have had a list of the original slinky lyrics.

The log story, the log parody. We also know that when they were writing the log parody, they may well have had a list of the original slinky lyrics.

That's what I mean. It's like super super Spot on the money down to the cadence.

That's what I mean. It's like super super Spot on the money down to the cadence.

And they may have written those lyrics as reference points in their parody composition. They may have written those on post it notes. Oh bad, another another class monster stuff a genius like man, do you ever use post it notes?

And they may have written those lyrics as reference points in their parody composition. They may have written those on post it notes. Oh bad, another another class monster stuff a genius like man, do you ever use post it notes?

You know, I've said this, but I haven't said on the show, but it does come up from time to time. I so rarely write with my hand anymore, I realize, And I know that's sort of like a statement about technology and whatever, but like everything I do is digital, and so I just but I would, I maybe should, because I think there's something to be said, and scientifically speaking, there's definitely something to be said about writing things down and the connections that it makes with your brain and all of that. So I have there. I will say this. They are cool for there are little ones you can get as dividers for chapter markers or like doing research and like books and books. Can you imagine? Those are super cool? But I couldn't say I've used a proper post it in ages, but people use them to beat out stories and writers rooms all the time, you know, big important thing, very very cool. Then the story's need and the colors. It's just another one of these things like tupperware that starts off as one thing and then becomes this like cultural phenomenon. And we see the digital legacy of post its as well in the notes app right on mac yeah, yeah, yeah, and different collaborative sort of visual representation stickies and sticky mac. Yeah.

You know, I've said this, but I haven't said on the show, but it does come up from time to time. I so rarely write with my hand anymore, I realize, And I know that's sort of like a statement about technology and whatever, but like everything I do is digital, and so I just but I would, I maybe should, because I think there's something to be said, and scientifically speaking, there's definitely something to be said about writing things down and the connections that it makes with your brain and all of that. So I have there. I will say this. They are cool for there are little ones you can get as dividers for chapter markers or like doing research and like books and books. Can you imagine? Those are super cool? But I couldn't say I've used a proper post it in ages, but people use them to beat out stories and writers rooms all the time, you know, big important thing, very very cool. Then the story's need and the colors. It's just another one of these things like tupperware that starts off as one thing and then becomes this like cultural phenomenon. And we see the digital legacy of post its as well in the notes app right on mac yeah, yeah, yeah, and different collaborative sort of visual representation stickies and sticky mac. Yeah.

So look, this is another accidental invention. It's nineteen sixty eight. There's a guy working for a giant company named three M. This guy's name is super cool Spencer Silver. It's his real name, not like his LA band name.

So look, this is another accidental invention. It's nineteen sixty eight. There's a guy working for a giant company named three M. This guy's name is super cool Spencer Silver. It's his real name, not like his LA band name.

It's very very cool. It's almost as good as like polystyrene. That's right. We're talking about Spencer Silver working in the lab slaving away, I believe, as part of the department responsible for creating super strong adhesives, which is you know, kind of three one of three m's Stocks and Trade. They're a chemical company and they make things like that clinic cleaners, you know, solvents and answers. Well, that's the thing exactly. And this is also early days where maybe a lot of that stuff was just running on out into the rivers and the water supply, and it took some doing to make them stop. But that's not Spencer's fault. No, that's not.

It's very very cool. It's almost as good as like polystyrene. That's right. We're talking about Spencer Silver working in the lab slaving away, I believe, as part of the department responsible for creating super strong adhesives, which is you know, kind of three one of three m's Stocks and Trade. They're a chemical company and they make things like that clinic cleaners, you know, solvents and answers. Well, that's the thing exactly. And this is also early days where maybe a lot of that stuff was just running on out into the rivers and the water supply, and it took some doing to make them stop. But that's not Spencer's fault. No, that's not.

No, it's not it's not he's.

No, it's not it's not he's.

He's trying to.

He's trying to.

He is tasked with developing the world's best adhesive.

He is tasked with developing the world's best adhesive.

Yeah, because he makes the world's weakest one. It's too good, it's too good, it's crazy.

Yeah, because he makes the world's weakest one. It's too good, it's too good, it's crazy.

His bosses are saying, essentially, Spencer, we need you to invent a glue so strong that it can hold planes together in the air. Right, And he says, right on, And then what does he do?

His bosses are saying, essentially, Spencer, we need you to invent a glue so strong that it can hold planes together in the air. Right, And he says, right on, And then what does he do?

No, he makes the weakest he's of all time. But it's just like I was saying, Man, I'm sorry, I got excited. Just weak enough, right, yeah, like to hold up a single tiny piece of paper, just pressure sensitive too. So if I'm not sure, yes, yes, yes.

No, he makes the weakest he's of all time. But it's just like I was saying, Man, I'm sorry, I got excited. Just weak enough, right, yeah, like to hold up a single tiny piece of paper, just pressure sensitive too. So if I'm not sure, yes, yes, yes.

If you use this on a plane, then theoretically you could go up to the plane and push two of your fingers on it and the plane would just fall apart.

If you use this on a plane, then theoretically you could go up to the plane and push two of your fingers on it and the plane would just fall apart.

That's exactly right. However, there were implementations, of course, outside of.

That's exactly right. However, there were implementations, of course, outside of.

This, yes, for acrylate co polymer microspheres. His invention and what he noticed is okay, this is weak sauce, as the Internet would call it, but it is reusable weak sauce, and it doesn't trail. Yeah, don't leave messy residue. It's not strong. It's not permanent. It's like you were saying, Noel, strong enough to hold together paper, but weak enough to allow even the most.

This, yes, for acrylate co polymer microspheres. His invention and what he noticed is okay, this is weak sauce, as the Internet would call it, but it is reusable weak sauce, and it doesn't trail. Yeah, don't leave messy residue. It's not strong. It's not permanent. It's like you were saying, Noel, strong enough to hold together paper, but weak enough to allow even the most.

Even the most whimpy of people to pool the montage to the Olympics. Yeah, no, it's great, it's true. But once again, if I'm not mistaken, he doesn't immediately land on post it notes.

Even the most whimpy of people to pool the montage to the Olympics. Yeah, no, it's great, it's true. But once again, if I'm not mistaken, he doesn't immediately land on post it notes.

It's another team effort, right, Oh yeah, A lot of he's got the thing.

It's another team effort, right, Oh yeah, A lot of he's got the thing.

He doesn't know what the hell to do with. This is a weak thing. I gotta be something.

He doesn't know what the hell to do with. This is a weak thing. I gotta be something.

But yeah, yeah, He's like, look, I found these I believe in the weakness of my product. I believe the weakness of a product. I've found these unique traits for this material. And a lot of his colleagues and his bosses in people in other departments at three M are like, Wow, this guy sucks at making adhesive airplace.

But yeah, yeah, He's like, look, I found these I believe in the weakness of my product. I believe the weakness of a product. I've found these unique traits for this material. And a lot of his colleagues and his bosses in people in other departments at three M are like, Wow, this guy sucks at making adhesive airplace.

That's good. It's sort of like talking about like a really bad superpower. And it's like, I you'd be better at thinking of an example, but of like something that like who's isn't squirrel Girl that's like considered one of the weakest sauce superpower superheroes.

That's good. It's sort of like talking about like a really bad superpower. And it's like, I you'd be better at thinking of an example, but of like something that like who's isn't squirrel Girl that's like considered one of the weakest sauce superpower superheroes.

She can speak with squirrels, She's got a couple of powers.

She can speak with squirrels, She's got a couple of powers.

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Wonder Twins also, but it's like, what do I do? Was this, you know, like I've got this gift slash curse, what do I do with it?

Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Wonder Twins also, but it's like, what do I do? Was this, you know, like I've got this gift slash curse, what do I do with it?

Or in Doctor Horrible's blog that came out during COVID or during the writer's strike. Excuse me, there was a guy whose superpower was that he's moist, Yeah, exactly, Or it's like that character in I Know He's Maybe he was just for the Spider Verse movies, that Jason Schwartzman voice.

Or in Doctor Horrible's blog that came out during COVID or during the writer's strike. Excuse me, there was a guy whose superpower was that he's moist, Yeah, exactly, Or it's like that character in I Know He's Maybe he was just for the Spider Verse movies, that Jason Schwartzman voice.

He's just like a Polka Dot man or whatever, like he like just creates random portals, control over it, you know. Yeah, so what do I do? He spends years spinning his wheels about this, right, and finally he needs someone to take a little bit of an outside perspective. Right, that's really important with collaboration, right, yes, yeah, this is great for the story too.

He's just like a Polka Dot man or whatever, like he like just creates random portals, control over it, you know. Yeah, so what do I do? He spends years spinning his wheels about this, right, and finally he needs someone to take a little bit of an outside perspective. Right, that's really important with collaboration, right, yes, yeah, this is great for the story too.

This comes from Silver's own interviews later, Like you were saying Noel for years. He's he's thinking, I've got something here. Okay, it's not going to work to keep planes together.

This comes from Silver's own interviews later, Like you were saying Noel for years. He's he's thinking, I've got something here. Okay, it's not going to work to keep planes together.

It's not good exactly for what.

It's not good exactly for what.

We were looking for, but it's reusable, it's residue free. He is going around to any literally any of his colleagues will listen to him and saying, hey, guys, help me with this. His own line, and he's quoted in posted dot com saying this. He says, I came to be known as mister Persistent Superpower.

We were looking for, but it's reusable, it's residue free. He is going around to any literally any of his colleagues will listen to him and saying, hey, guys, help me with this. His own line, and he's quoted in posted dot com saying this. He says, I came to be known as mister Persistent Superpower.

It's like a superhero name. That's his superpower and persistence. Is he yeah? Is he great? I don't know? Does he have super strength?

It's like a superhero name. That's his superpower and persistence. Is he yeah? Is he great? I don't know? Does he have super strength?

No?

No?

Can he fly?

Can he fly?

No?

No?

What's not talking about? This?

What's not talking about? This?

Persist at some point if we let him into the Avengers. But like you're saying, team power.

Persist at some point if we let him into the Avengers. But like you're saying, team power.

Uh.

Uh.

He hangs out with another three M scientist, a guy named Art Fry again, real name, real name, Yeah, and so Art Fry is in addition to being a scientist, he is a frustrated member of a local church choir.

He hangs out with another three M scientist, a guy named Art Fry again, real name, real name, Yeah, and so Art Fry is in addition to being a scientist, he is a frustrated member of a local church choir.

That's right, he is, and he is really struggling, despite his scientific background and prowess, with a really basic problem to mark the pages of the hymnal that they are using to kind of mark what songs are going to sing that day. They're using little scraps of papers. But the problem is, gosh darn it, every time he comes back the next Sunday, they're all over the floor like so much confetti. Because the spirit moved to you clearly. But I mean, what do I do about? I don't know what page to go to? Sa religious hymns.

That's right, he is, and he is really struggling, despite his scientific background and prowess, with a really basic problem to mark the pages of the hymnal that they are using to kind of mark what songs are going to sing that day. They're using little scraps of papers. But the problem is, gosh darn it, every time he comes back the next Sunday, they're all over the floor like so much confetti. Because the spirit moved to you clearly. But I mean, what do I do about? I don't know what page to go to? Sa religious hymns.

I love the made for TV version of this.

I love the made for TV version of this.

There's gotta be a way. Only I had help putting on my shoes exactly. This salad won't spin itself. Now that being said, Man, a salad spinner is helpful because it's the central usual effect that sucks the water out, and it does a better job than just drying it with a towel or directly. It makes it crisper. I'm just saying, I'm I'm I'm on team salad spinner here.

There's gotta be a way. Only I had help putting on my shoes exactly. This salad won't spin itself. Now that being said, Man, a salad spinner is helpful because it's the central usual effect that sucks the water out, and it does a better job than just drying it with a towel or directly. It makes it crisper. I'm just saying, I'm I'm I'm on team salad spinner here.

I hear you, Man, I'd like it if it were multifunctional. I think we could take the idea of the one is.

I hear you, Man, I'd like it if it were multifunctional. I think we could take the idea of the one is.

The one thing. You could use it as a calender if you wanted to. That's a great part.

The one thing. You could use it as a calender if you wanted to. That's a great part.

Okay, it does two things. It could also just be a container.

Okay, it does two things. It could also just be a container.

It can It does have a lid with a little hand crank on it. You could just use it to store believing in people, believe in, believe in yourself, and then the others and the rest will follow. But what's going on with mister persistent here? All right?

It can It does have a lid with a little hand crank on it. You could just use it to store believing in people, believe in, believe in yourself, and then the others and the rest will follow. But what's going on with mister persistent here? All right?

And how do he and mister Fry sort of join forces? Okay, so this is how persistent Silver is. This is why they call it. Mister Persistent. He holds seminars where he talks about how cool the opportunity of post it notes could be, even though they don't call it post it notes. And so Art Fry frustrated member.

And how do he and mister Fry sort of join forces? Okay, so this is how persistent Silver is. This is why they call it. Mister Persistent. He holds seminars where he talks about how cool the opportunity of post it notes could be, even though they don't call it post it notes. And so Art Fry frustrated member.

Of the local church choir.

Of the local church choir.

Uh, he thinks back and he has a flashback moment where he says, oh, yeah, who's that we call mister p that he loves the microspheres, you know. Uh, And this hits him and he reaches out in Silver and they start working on this and they say, look, we're going to develop something out of this. And they realized all that they're writing messages on these notes that have been laced with this adhesive lace to communicate, you know, around the office. And later you'll see interviews with Art Fry who says, I thought, what we have here isn't just a bookmark. It's a whole new way to communicate, which I way a little ambitious.

Uh, he thinks back and he has a flashback moment where he says, oh, yeah, who's that we call mister p that he loves the microspheres, you know. Uh, And this hits him and he reaches out in Silver and they start working on this and they say, look, we're going to develop something out of this. And they realized all that they're writing messages on these notes that have been laced with this adhesive lace to communicate, you know, around the office. And later you'll see interviews with Art Fry who says, I thought, what we have here isn't just a bookmark. It's a whole new way to communicate, which I way a little ambitious.

A whole new way to be passive, aggressive to your coworkers on the on the company fridge right.

A whole new way to be passive, aggressive to your coworkers on the on the company fridge right.

Right to whoever keeps eating my Philly cheese steak man.

Right to whoever keeps eating my Philly cheese steak man.

That was actually brave of you to bring one of those to work, Ben, I got it. That does mean like people are gonna they're gonna come at your Philly So I think so one it's a popular saying. Well, I mean, I hope that you took care of that a whole new ways. It was Josh Clark, he knows what he did. It's true.

That was actually brave of you to bring one of those to work, Ben, I got it. That does mean like people are gonna they're gonna come at your Philly So I think so one it's a popular saying. Well, I mean, I hope that you took care of that a whole new ways. It was Josh Clark, he knows what he did. It's true.

So now they have to pitch it the post it note to their bosses, which is that's the next stage.

So now they have to pitch it the post it note to their bosses, which is that's the next stage.

By the way, this is just like the idea. It ain't. It doesn't have this brilliant, you know, zeitgeisty name yet, right, which is half of the product. If I'm being if we're being honest, that's a really good point.

By the way, this is just like the idea. It ain't. It doesn't have this brilliant, you know, zeitgeisty name yet, right, which is half of the product. If I'm being if we're being honest, that's a really good point.

I mean, I think it is because if you, I mean, like German companies have struggled with that sometimes if a German company discovered the slinky what they have called it, like kinder metal coil.

I mean, I think it is because if you, I mean, like German companies have struggled with that sometimes if a German company discovered the slinky what they have called it, like kinder metal coil.

Yes, exactly. They probably would have been. And it's not to say that like sticky paper is something that one could hold holy like own, right, right? You know what I mean? Like it's I think it's too general, Like how how is any different from taking a piece of Did they have Scotch tape? At this point? We should talk about that some time. That was the Scotch company, right, that did like another chemical.

Yes, exactly. They probably would have been. And it's not to say that like sticky paper is something that one could hold holy like own, right, right? You know what I mean? Like it's I think it's too general, Like how how is any different from taking a piece of Did they have Scotch tape? At this point? We should talk about that some time. That was the Scotch company, right, that did like another chemical.

Company actually did an upside on that one.

Company actually did an upside on that one.

I thought we did too. I thought we did.

I thought we did too. I thought we did.

Scotch was a.

Scotch was a.

Bizar, it was a dis it was crappy.

Bizar, it was a dis it was crappy.

Tape was considered not very good, like.

Tape was considered not very good, like.

Post I just gotta wonder, though, what came first, the post it or the Scotch tape.

Post I just gotta wonder, though, what came first, the post it or the Scotch tape.

I think Scotch came first.

I think Scotch came first.

I think you would have to because to me, is.

I think you would have to because to me, is.

There scot was the early twentieth this is middle one.

There scot was the early twentieth this is middle one.

I think that's true. But I think the thing about Scotch tape too, is it also has sort of a weak residue.

I think that's true. But I think the thing about Scotch tape too, is it also has sort of a weak residue.

Lists it turns out hold that's a good thing, because so many times you don't want to tape something down that's super glue because then you can't That's exactly right.

Lists it turns out hold that's a good thing, because so many times you don't want to tape something down that's super glue because then you can't That's exactly right.

But what I'm saying is like it they sort of already had something going that could have been, you know, co opted into something like this, but it was a lot of that had to do with the name and the brand in nineteen thirties.

But what I'm saying is like it they sort of already had something going that could have been, you know, co opted into something like this, but it was a lot of that had to do with the name and the brand in nineteen thirties.

Yeah to nineteen thirty by Richard Drew.

Yeah to nineteen thirty by Richard Drew.

Right, And this is something that three M is aware of. They're aware of Scotch tape. They're not going to change the name, just get because they do think Scott's are cheap people.

Right, And this is something that three M is aware of. They're aware of Scotch tape. They're not going to change the name, just get because they do think Scott's are cheap people.

How'd the pitch meeting go with the three M brass? Oh boy, yeah, that's the setup. Thank you know. Uh.

How'd the pitch meeting go with the three M brass? Oh boy, yeah, that's the setup. Thank you know. Uh.

The company execs don't love it until a lab manager named Jeff Nicholson spelled like our dear research associate Jeff.

The company execs don't love it until a lab manager named Jeff Nicholson spelled like our dear research associate Jeff.

Uh.

Uh.

He gets into it, and he is radicalized. He says, we're going to get this out on the market. We are going to first off, we're gonna do something really clever, says Jeff. We're not going to sell this immediately. We're going to make a bunch of it, and then we're going to give it out to businesses and people around Boise, Idaho for free.

He gets into it, and he is radicalized. He says, we're going to get this out on the market. We are going to first off, we're gonna do something really clever, says Jeff. We're not going to sell this immediately. We're going to make a bunch of it, and then we're going to give it out to businesses and people around Boise, Idaho for free.

So just like a drug dealer. But with post it notes, it was just the tiny post it's to start, yeah, and then they graduate, I need more full sized ones.

So just like a drug dealer. But with post it notes, it was just the tiny post it's to start, yeah, and then they graduate, I need more full sized ones.

Now your first post is free, right exactly. And this is actually this is funny. Jeff found this thanks to our alma matter how stuff works. Post its are like orthodox post it notes are yellow. Apparently that's an accident as well, because when they are making these free samples, they just go to the lab literally next door and say, hey, do you guys have any paper, and they say, oh, I get we.

Now your first post is free, right exactly. And this is actually this is funny. Jeff found this thanks to our alma matter how stuff works. Post its are like orthodox post it notes are yellow. Apparently that's an accident as well, because when they are making these free samples, they just go to the lab literally next door and say, hey, do you guys have any paper, and they say, oh, I get we.

Have pea colored stock here.

Have pea colored stock here.

And so after ninety percent of the people in Idaho get the reorder this stuff. They like the taste, right, so now they want more, all fricking cow right, yes, So now they say, okay, well, dang, people are used to the urine colored like the pea papers, so we're just gonna keep with the yellow paper.

And so after ninety percent of the people in Idaho get the reorder this stuff. They like the taste, right, so now they want more, all fricking cow right, yes, So now they say, okay, well, dang, people are used to the urine colored like the pea papers, so we're just gonna keep with the yellow paper.

Let's do it. It seems to be a hit. It was, in fact, an overnight success. As they put it in the History of post it notes on post dot com. It was always a self advertising product because customers would put the notes on documents they sent to others. Built in advertising, arousing the recipient's curiosity a very arousing product. Slinky there, we say. They would look at it, peel it off and play with it, just thick it on different stuff. Oh you know what, I mean, where's this? But yeah it is? And you know what, to this day people still f with posted notes when they're bored at the office. Oh yeah, post the note art is a real thing, It really is. We haven't gotten into the cornucopia of colors that were to follow, you know, that became its own thing right now, we're just with the one, the p yellow. But that in and of itself is an absolute smash. Silver said, like many groundbreaking innovations, theirs was a product nobody thought they needed until they did.

Let's do it. It seems to be a hit. It was, in fact, an overnight success. As they put it in the History of post it notes on post dot com. It was always a self advertising product because customers would put the notes on documents they sent to others. Built in advertising, arousing the recipient's curiosity a very arousing product. Slinky there, we say. They would look at it, peel it off and play with it, just thick it on different stuff. Oh you know what, I mean, where's this? But yeah it is? And you know what, to this day people still f with posted notes when they're bored at the office. Oh yeah, post the note art is a real thing, It really is. We haven't gotten into the cornucopia of colors that were to follow, you know, that became its own thing right now, we're just with the one, the p yellow. But that in and of itself is an absolute smash. Silver said, like many groundbreaking innovations, theirs was a product nobody thought they needed until they did.

And we know what is on your mind? Now this is the story everybody. Everybody right now is uh screening with their post or muttering yeah, they're writing their posting botes. Wiously, why are Furiously? Why aren't the guys talking about Velcrow and George demus Stral.

And we know what is on your mind? Now this is the story everybody. Everybody right now is uh screening with their post or muttering yeah, they're writing their posting botes. Wiously, why are Furiously? Why aren't the guys talking about Velcrow and George demus Stral.

You want to know why because we took a little consultation conciliatory off Mic break and discussed how Velcrow in and of itself is an episode because it is not only an accidental invention, which again we could lump in with tupperware because that was a byproduct. Therefore, one could argue it was like a repurposing of an accidental thing that happened. But it's so incredibly important in manufacturing and military applications. Uh if I'm not mistaken, man, we've talked about Velcrow stuff like on stuff they don't want you to know. Oh yeah, like it's so we decided rather than short change you because we're also running a little uh low on time. We've got some travel coming up, we'd save it and give you a full Velcrow episode coming right up.

You want to know why because we took a little consultation conciliatory off Mic break and discussed how Velcrow in and of itself is an episode because it is not only an accidental invention, which again we could lump in with tupperware because that was a byproduct. Therefore, one could argue it was like a repurposing of an accidental thing that happened. But it's so incredibly important in manufacturing and military applications. Uh if I'm not mistaken, man, we've talked about Velcrow stuff like on stuff they don't want you to know. Oh yeah, like it's so we decided rather than short change you because we're also running a little uh low on time. We've got some travel coming up, we'd save it and give you a full Velcrow episode coming right up.

Yes, and uh with that mind, thank you, as always Ridiculous Historians for joining us. If you have some ideas for future accidental inventions, picture, we won't steal them, we promise, yeah, picture inventions overly want we mean yeah, we legally can't. On our Facebook page, Ridiculous Historians. Big thanks to our super producer mister Max Williams and our research associate for this week series, Jeff.

Yes, and uh with that mind, thank you, as always Ridiculous Historians for joining us. If you have some ideas for future accidental inventions, picture, we won't steal them, we promise, yeah, picture inventions overly want we mean yeah, we legally can't. On our Facebook page, Ridiculous Historians. Big thanks to our super producer mister Max Williams and our research associate for this week series, Jeff.

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Jeff the g e O f F Jeff Bartlett g e O F f G. It's a great spelling of Jeff. It is it is? We asked when you get a Jeff, do you say as a J E F F or G E O F?

I always ask, I ask for what are Oh that's big for that demographic. They care about it. I remember talking to one of your close friends. The first time I met him.

I always ask, I ask for what are Oh that's big for that demographic. They care about it. I remember talking to one of your close friends. The first time I met him.

People ask me with or without them loud, and then I punched them.

People ask me with or without them loud, and then I punched them.

And people ask me, is that you're real name? But by that point I've already ghosted a customs.

And people ask me, is that you're real name? But by that point I've already ghosted a customs.

So you threw down a smoke bomb, and like that threw.

So you threw down a smoke bomb, and like that threw.

It out a smoke bob, we also want to throw it down a smoke bomb of thanks to.

It out a smoke bob, we also want to throw it down a smoke bomb of thanks to.

I love that idea. Yeah to Alex.

I love that idea. Yeah to Alex.

Williams uh our brother in arms who composed this slap and bop?

Williams uh our brother in arms who composed this slap and bop?

Who else who? Just speaking of a smoke bomb of thanks? It just makes me think back to we recorded this morning, uh the Strange news segment of our stuff they Don't Want You to Know podcasts with our buddy Matt. And prior to that, we did a really cool conversation with John Cameron Mitchell of Hedwig and the Angry Inch Fame, who has a great podcast out called Cancelasian Islands, and he introduced us to a concept of like positive conspiracies Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I think that's so cool.

Who else who? Just speaking of a smoke bomb of thanks? It just makes me think back to we recorded this morning, uh the Strange news segment of our stuff they Don't Want You to Know podcasts with our buddy Matt. And prior to that, we did a really cool conversation with John Cameron Mitchell of Hedwig and the Angry Inch Fame, who has a great podcast out called Cancelasian Islands, and he introduced us to a concept of like positive conspiracies Yeah, I'm glad you brought that up. I think that's so cool.

I can't remember the word research on that a few years back, and I didn't want to I didn't want to slow the rule. But it's it's really interesting because it comes from a guy named doctor Goldner back in the early nineteen eighties and it.

I can't remember the word research on that a few years back, and I didn't want to I didn't want to slow the rule. But it's it's really interesting because it comes from a guy named doctor Goldner back in the early nineteen eighties and it.

Can we say what it is real quick case.

Can we say what it is real quick case.

Yeah, Prunoia is This is doctor gold Goldener's words. Prunoia is the positive counterpart of paranoia, the delusion that others may think well of one. And I mentioned that on stuff they're watching.

Yeah, Prunoia is This is doctor gold Goldener's words. Prunoia is the positive counterpart of paranoia, the delusion that others may think well of one. And I mentioned that on stuff they're watching.

Yeah, I was just so we do so many I forget. But the way John put it in the context of our conversations with y'all, y'all should check out really hit me and I just thought it was worth mentioning.

Yeah, I was just so we do so many I forget. But the way John put it in the context of our conversations with y'all, y'all should check out really hit me and I just thought it was worth mentioning.

And also do check out John's newest podcast, Cancelation Island, available wherever you find your favorite shows. While you're doing that, do check out The Puzzler by our one and only Bahamas aj Bahamas Jacobs.

And also do check out John's newest podcast, Cancelation Island, available wherever you find your favorite shows. While you're doing that, do check out The Puzzler by our one and only Bahamas aj Bahamas Jacobs.

Yeah, and if you missed it, we had a great chat with him recently about ridiculous historical fashion fads, very illiterative episode and a lovely man and if.

Yeah, and if you missed it, we had a great chat with him recently about ridiculous historical fashion fads, very illiterative episode and a lovely man and if.

You're ever like the guys on Ridiculous History are just too nice to each other and everybody else, check out our episodes featuring Jonathan Strickland aka the Twister, who has still yet to be prosecuted for as many war.

You're ever like the guys on Ridiculous History are just too nice to each other and everybody else, check out our episodes featuring Jonathan Strickland aka the Twister, who has still yet to be prosecuted for as many war.

Crimes, Yes, against humanity and podcasting dumb. Huge thanks to Alex Williams who composed our theme, super producer Max Williams. We haven't thanks to enough. We had a nice little love then at the top, but we do love you Max, and a huge thanks to you too. Our research associated Jeff Bartlett again and Ben Man to you. It's been a fun little series and I think it's going to be an ongoing one.

Crimes, Yes, against humanity and podcasting dumb. Huge thanks to Alex Williams who composed our theme, super producer Max Williams. We haven't thanks to enough. We had a nice little love then at the top, but we do love you Max, and a huge thanks to you too. Our research associated Jeff Bartlett again and Ben Man to you. It's been a fun little series and I think it's going to be an ongoing one.

Yeah, let's make it so again.

Yeah, let's make it so again.

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Accidentally, we'll see you next time, folks. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.