Now Lana is middle aged… she doesn’t want to do anything! The thought of driving there… finding a park… Ben feels the same about the beach. Is it just us?

Also - hangovers suck with a 3 year old, the little things annoy Ben like how long it took to choose a colour for his website, and hear the advice from the great Jamie Dunn (aka Agro) that Ben still lives by.

Welcome to Episode 12!

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