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Than we are the authority on all things R and B. Ladies, gentlemen, even take the R and B the podcast, the authority on all things R and B. Listen, name in the building. Yeah, yeah, we got a brother. We gotta love one.

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We you know, we gotta start saying to the authority on R and B, money, R and B, everything and everything that comes along with R and B.

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You heard it, he said that I can come from now on because everything come come along with R and B. Listen, man, I'm not gonna make the intro too long. Man.

Okay, okay, the change you might make everybody mad.

Okay, okay, the change you might make everybody mad.

The change is big and the money's long. Yeah, come on, man, come on, man, come on man. First, first, let me say like this, let me say this, let me let me get this off my chest. First of all, O T is the nicest, nicest, funniest guy in the world. When I say, in the world, in the world, always smiling.

The change is big and the money's long. Yeah, come on, man, come on, man, come on man. First, first, let me say like this, let me say this, let me let me get this off my chest. First of all, O T is the nicest, nicest, funniest guy in the world. When I say, in the world, in the world, always smiling.

But don't play with it, don't play with don't play with him, don't play with his people because for the smallest thing, I'm talking the smallest thing, O T will go there.

But don't play with it, don't play with don't play with him, don't play with his people because for the smallest thing, I'm talking the smallest thing, O T will go there.

I'm like, like, big, bro, what's what's going on, Oh, man, he brought me some cold fries. Cold fries. God, who brought to the fries? Oh, it's just fighting. It's the principal. They taking your kind of weakness. God, they trying to say you cold out here, you caught out the street. Up, I'm gonna have a hundred niggas. It's just fright. It's the principal car.

I'm like, like, big, bro, what's what's going on, Oh, man, he brought me some cold fries. Cold fries. God, who brought to the fries? Oh, it's just fighting. It's the principal. They taking your kind of weakness. God, they trying to say you cold out here, you caught out the street. Up, I'm gonna have a hundred niggas. It's just fright. It's the principal car.

He will go, hey, listen, that's movie.

He will go, hey, listen, that's movie.

He can really fight. That's the problem. That's the problem. But I love it because nigga, he's standing on all the business. If he's fucking with you and he got love for your nigga, you're not gonna let nobody play with you. Yeah yeah, it starts there. Yeah yeah. Oh. This is a few incidents I could go into. I'm just like, oh no, stop it, please don't do this.

He can really fight. That's the problem. That's the problem. But I love it because nigga, he's standing on all the business. If he's fucking with you and he got love for your nigga, you're not gonna let nobody play with you. Yeah yeah, it starts there. Yeah yeah. Oh. This is a few incidents I could go into. I'm just like, oh no, stop it, please don't do this.

I let nobody play with my role. Man, it ain't happening. We'll be heavy that switch. I don't be sad. I'll be saying for the other we're just bowling. I'm a bonus nigga. I'll be having to go back to the people and apologize.

I let nobody play with my role. Man, it ain't happening. We'll be heavy that switch. I don't be sad. I'll be saying for the other we're just bowling. I'm a bonus nigga. I'll be having to go back to the people and apologize.

I'm so sorry my little brother. You know, he's laughing, like because I really was like, it's tired. You mean what you mean?

I'm so sorry my little brother. You know, he's laughing, like because I really was like, it's tired. You mean what you mean?

He he just love heart.

He he just love heart.

I'm sorry my life was in it was, but don't worry about it. He's fine. Man, oh man, I just had to get that off of my chest. Man brother, I appreciate you. Oh, you know, we've had many a deep conversation man, and you know, I think that for me and of course I can speak for Jay bringing you here on the R and B Money Podcast. It's like, you know, it's it's one of those things where you know, maybe maybe maybe as an overall title, you consider yourself a rapper. I consider you a songwriter for sure. Yeah, I consider you a hit songwriter. You know what I'm saying. And you've done that, whether it just be rap, or whether it be melodic, or whether you go ahead and just fucking sing, get your remix on it to it. Like you've done all of that. And I think that that conversation is and that information is important for everybody all across the border. So let's go. Let's go back to the beginning. That's what that's what was. What was a little old tie doing the beach?

I'm sorry my life was in it was, but don't worry about it. He's fine. Man, oh man, I just had to get that off of my chest. Man brother, I appreciate you. Oh, you know, we've had many a deep conversation man, and you know, I think that for me and of course I can speak for Jay bringing you here on the R and B Money Podcast. It's like, you know, it's it's one of those things where you know, maybe maybe maybe as an overall title, you consider yourself a rapper. I consider you a songwriter for sure. Yeah, I consider you a hit songwriter. You know what I'm saying. And you've done that, whether it just be rap, or whether it be melodic, or whether you go ahead and just fucking sing, get your remix on it to it. Like you've done all of that. And I think that that conversation is and that information is important for everybody all across the border. So let's go. Let's go back to the beginning. That's what that's what was. What was a little old tie doing the beach?

Yeah, I was, I was, I was in like I was in long Beach, running around, you know, shooting dice at school, you know, selling candy for some money, you know, all that type of stuff. Obviously, Like I'm from Long be so you know we have a certain type of thing over there. I don't know if you say that on this say what you want to say for you. Yeah, so you know we come from like cript culture and everything like that. I wanted to play football, but I was bad as hell, so I was always ineligible. You know, you.

Yeah, I was, I was, I was in like I was in long Beach, running around, you know, shooting dice at school, you know, selling candy for some money, you know, all that type of stuff. Obviously, Like I'm from Long be so you know we have a certain type of thing over there. I don't know if you say that on this say what you want to say for you. Yeah, so you know we come from like cript culture and everything like that. I wanted to play football, but I was bad as hell, so I was always ineligible. You know, you.

Know, look at you right now. I got nigga fast. He ain't got a grade. I know that nigga fastest, low hissy grade, make sure he don't play here.

Know, look at you right now. I got nigga fast. He ain't got a grade. I know that nigga fastest, low hissy grade, make sure he don't play here.

So my grades was bad, but I never I never. I never got to like I'm one of the dudes that like, I always used to get confused. And then I start saying for school only because I like go there and I like, do I do good?

So my grades was bad, but I never I never. I never got to like I'm one of the dudes that like, I always used to get confused. And then I start saying for school only because I like go there and I like, do I do good?

I do?

I do?

I finish all my homework and then fail all the time because I would never like retain I can retain the information. I'll just make sure I complete what I need to complete, you know what I'm saying. And so and so I started doing music. Then like by the time I'm like sixteen, but then I went to like like.

I finish all my homework and then fail all the time because I would never like retain I can retain the information. I'll just make sure I complete what I need to complete, you know what I'm saying. And so and so I started doing music. Then like by the time I'm like sixteen, but then I went to like like.

Seven high schools you went to.

Seven high schools you went to.

I went to like seven, yeah, because I was Yeah, because everybody wanted me to go to their school.

I went to like seven, yeah, because I was Yeah, because everybody wanted me to go to their school.

I'll be over there next week. It's not a party. I'm gonna pull up.

I'll be over there next week. It's not a party. I'm gonna pull up.

No, I got I got kicked out of all of all the schools I was.

No, I got I got kicked out of all of all the schools I was.

I was, I was going to it.

I was, I was going to it.

So I got kicked out at every school I went to, and then I found in high school.

So I got kicked out at every school I went to, and then I found in high school.

Yeah yeah, yeah.

Yeah yeah, yeah.

Because I was getting I was getting kicked out of like districts and so and so I would so I would start like in one and then I go like, I gotta go from gonna be so Serritos.

Because I was getting I was getting kicked out of like districts and so and so I would so I would start like in one and then I go like, I gotta go from gonna be so Serritos.

We don't want you to go to any of these ten schools, right, you can't go to none of it.

We don't want you to go to any of these ten schools, right, you can't go to none of it.

So what you're saying is you've been doing club hosting.

So what you're saying is you've been doing club hosting.

You permitt.

You permitt.

He only had two hour requirements. He come to his hour and a half. I was kidding so like because they were like I was so bad. They were like, now we kick you out of the district, not out of the school. It's not gonna expel you from the school. You're gonna go down there and do the same ship. So we get kick out whatever. But I was doing music and I used to like go online and go, I want to go back to something real quick, go to the music.

He only had two hour requirements. He come to his hour and a half. I was kidding so like because they were like I was so bad. They were like, now we kick you out of the district, not out of the school. It's not gonna expel you from the school. You're gonna go down there and do the same ship. So we get kick out whatever. But I was doing music and I used to like go online and go, I want to go back to something real quick, go to the music.

I want to go to this. I was so bad because I was really bad in school. Yeah, And I don't know why I was really bad at school, Like I was just up for whatever challenge, whatever another nigga wouldn't do right right right before. It was before I got to high school, right before I found the Lord. The Lord changed me, but before that, and the psychologists tried to give me, you know, all these reasons as to why, and your parents and they left you early and went overseas without you. It's just your rebel. I was like, no, I'm not rebeling. The nigga just said you want to fight, and I was with it. Teacher said some bullshit and I called him the asshole. I was That's just what I was on. What was your thing? What was it that made you that way? Was it just you was just like taking all challenges.

I want to go to this. I was so bad because I was really bad in school. Yeah, And I don't know why I was really bad at school, Like I was just up for whatever challenge, whatever another nigga wouldn't do right right right before. It was before I got to high school, right before I found the Lord. The Lord changed me, but before that, and the psychologists tried to give me, you know, all these reasons as to why, and your parents and they left you early and went overseas without you. It's just your rebel. I was like, no, I'm not rebeling. The nigga just said you want to fight, and I was with it. Teacher said some bullshit and I called him the asshole. I was That's just what I was on. What was your thing? What was it that made you that way? Was it just you was just like taking all challenges.

Yeah, I was, especially when I left Long Beach because when you kick me out of school, I'm like it was kind of like I felt that like I was already I was already bad because like like when I had to always to.

Yeah, I was, especially when I left Long Beach because when you kick me out of school, I'm like it was kind of like I felt that like I was already I was already bad because like like when I had to always to.

Catch the bus. So I catch the bus.

Catch the bus. So I catch the bus.

When I get to like the train station, like they're banging on you a train station for those who don't know what's like where are you from?

When I get to like the train station, like they're banging on you a train station for those who don't know what's like where are you from?

So you start to get it, you get in that energy.

So you start to get it, you get in that energy.

I already had that energy before I even get to school, you know what I'm saying. And then we like shoot dice at the McDonald's outside of my school in the morning, like so we'll try to get with that's that that that's what makes us get up early.

I already had that energy before I even get to school, you know what I'm saying. And then we like shoot dice at the McDonald's outside of my school in the morning, like so we'll try to get with that's that that that's what makes us get up early.

You know, you said, we gotta we.

You know, you said, we gotta we.

Gotta shoot dice at McDonald's before we before we across the street. And so but some time, but my, my, my, my, you know, all through my youth, I have to catch the bus and catch the training. That's when you run into niggas and you run into.

Gotta shoot dice at McDonald's before we before we across the street. And so but some time, but my, my, my, my, you know, all through my youth, I have to catch the bus and catch the training. That's when you run into niggas and you run into.

Whoop and where you're from. Oh oh damn.

Whoop and where you're from. Oh oh damn.

We gotta get off on this stop because over there, you know.

We gotta get off on this stop because over there, you know.

What I mean.

What I mean.

And so so then when I when I left Jordan My my my main school, that's like my homeschool across like down street from my.

And so so then when I when I left Jordan My my my main school, that's like my homeschool across like down street from my.

And I left out of Long Beach.

And I left out of Long Beach.

I'm always looking at other niggas different, you know, because they looking at me and I'm like, you know, so I'm instantly it's a it's a defense mechanism, you know. And but I'm like, I'm ripping, and I'm like I always now now I'm I'm I'm always trying to prove myself to somebody, you know what I mean, and prove that I ain't no bitch, I ain't no that I come from here. You know, So when somebody says something to you here, even if it's not even if it's not like really threatening like that, you take it like that because you know, you come from a certain place. So I can't the way I'm trying to collect this information that you're telling me right.

I'm always looking at other niggas different, you know, because they looking at me and I'm like, you know, so I'm instantly it's a it's a defense mechanism, you know. And but I'm like, I'm ripping, and I'm like I always now now I'm I'm I'm always trying to prove myself to somebody, you know what I mean, and prove that I ain't no bitch, I ain't no that I come from here. You know, So when somebody says something to you here, even if it's not even if it's not like really threatening like that, you take it like that because you know, you come from a certain place. So I can't the way I'm trying to collect this information that you're telling me right.

Now, different, it all, it all feels, it all feel the same.

Now, different, it all, it all feels, it all feel the same.

Yeah, yeah, And so you mean by that, yeah, so I would I would do that. I would do that, you know what I mean. I had like I used to have like my you don't have the eye, the I seven thirdys and next tails and all that, you know. I used to do that bring like, yeah, call my homies, you know what I mean, Like bring guns to school. I used to have my little douce fires and my little backpack and everything like that. Like I used to be like I used to be like on bullshit unto you, was really out of control. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but but yeah, but it was like because every time I get on a bus stop and I get on the train, they got this thing called.

Yeah, yeah, And so you mean by that, yeah, so I would I would do that. I would do that, you know what I mean. I had like I used to have like my you don't have the eye, the I seven thirdys and next tails and all that, you know. I used to do that bring like, yeah, call my homies, you know what I mean, Like bring guns to school. I used to have my little douce fires and my little backpack and everything like that. Like I used to be like I used to be like on bullshit unto you, was really out of control. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, but but yeah, but it was like because every time I get on a bus stop and I get on the train, they got this thing called.

The Blue Line, right la, and they go from Long Beach.

The Blue Line, right la, and they go from Long Beach.

You got the Long Beach station, the Artisa station, then you got the Wilmington station, which is Compton. Then you got the one hundred and third station which is Watts you know, and your shit keep going all the way from Long Beach or downtown today somebody. So you're going through every hood and when you get off, you get off the train. You know, it's sometimes Nigga is sitting outside. They just sitting outside the train station tripping, you know what I mean, Like just nobody want no money, no nothing. We just hear trip you know what I'm saying. And so I was always moving that way to protect myself. So I'm like, I'm like overly protective about myself. But at the same time, I'm like I'm like I'm aggressive because I'm overly protected by myself.

You got the Long Beach station, the Artisa station, then you got the Wilmington station, which is Compton. Then you got the one hundred and third station which is Watts you know, and your shit keep going all the way from Long Beach or downtown today somebody. So you're going through every hood and when you get off, you get off the train. You know, it's sometimes Nigga is sitting outside. They just sitting outside the train station tripping, you know what I mean, Like just nobody want no money, no nothing. We just hear trip you know what I'm saying. And so I was always moving that way to protect myself. So I'm like, I'm like overly protective about myself. But at the same time, I'm like I'm like I'm aggressive because I'm overly protected by myself.

And at sixteen, you can't turn that on and off.

And at sixteen, you can't turn that on and off.

Yeah, it's not like, oh, now I'm in a classroom.

Yeah, it's not like, oh, now I'm in a classroom.

Now I'm gonna turn.

Now I'm gonna turn.

I'm gonna turn this this this tripping off.

I'm gonna turn this this this tripping off.

No, I'm tripping on.

No, I'm tripping on.

Everything because I gotta be like this happened to protection, So I gotta be like this for nothing, nothing that happened to me, you know what I'm saying.

Everything because I gotta be like this happened to protection, So I gotta be like this for nothing, nothing that happened to me, you know what I'm saying.

So you got initiated, so motherfuckers. No exactly exactly him alone, exactly. I'm not waiting for a nigga run up on me. And I'm like, as soon as I get off, I'm saying it instantly. I ain't.

So you got initiated, so motherfuckers. No exactly exactly him alone, exactly. I'm not waiting for a nigga run up on me. And I'm like, as soon as I get off, I'm saying it instantly. I ain't.

And I always felt like I had to be that way, you know, and that obviously that's what got me kicked out of all these damn schools. You know, there's others I gotta be. I always feel like I had to be the rest, you know. So he was going into the computer, into the music. Yeah, so so I would I would look on online and I would see certain things where damn, what's that site was back then?

And I always felt like I had to be that way, you know, and that obviously that's what got me kicked out of all these damn schools. You know, there's others I gotta be. I always feel like I had to be the rest, you know. So he was going into the computer, into the music. Yeah, so so I would I would look on online and I would see certain things where damn, what's that site was back then?

No?

No?

No, no, no, no, where they like sell stuff in cars and and craigs, right, and then like people were like you know, and they just like people would put up like shows into where you like artist gotta sell tickets and everything. And back then they had shine heagely they had all this all this stuff right.

No, no, no, no, where they like sell stuff in cars and and craigs, right, and then like people were like you know, and they just like people would put up like shows into where you like artist gotta sell tickets and everything. And back then they had shine heagely they had all this all this stuff right.

Where that's what is that golden voice?

Where that's what is that golden voice?

Yeah, I think it was.

Yeah, I think it was.

And so like they would have like artists perform, but you had to sell like ten tickets, but what get to get on the show. So it's like if I sell team, he sells tea, he sell he sellt We got a packed show and all our people was there. So I would that's what that's what I would do whatever. But every time I performed, it was like, damn, you're a great performer. You da da da We love your music, Blase, but this is me young, you know. And I kept doing that, kept doing that, kept doing that, and you know, you you start to meet people, and you start to grow, and people start to grow, you know, as you guys are going up and and then I start meeting people. That's like they're like, yo, we're gonna put you on this show. And you know, you win this contest, you you do a song with Lil Wayne, you know what I mean, like what and then you know, then they have this and then but the whole time they like they finishing you your bread you know what I'm saying. And so they trying to figure out who can sell the most tickets, so you can sell thirty, you know, thirty tickets at ten ten dollars each or twenty twenty dollars each, you know, and just how the people how they was making money. So so years after that go by and I do a song out here. It was a song called Touchdown that I did, and I met this guy there and this guy so I think it was a Jamaican guy. He was like, yo, you signed and signing anybody. I'm like nah, He's like, all right, cool, I got I got, I got somebody you know for you to talk to. I'm like, okay, cool. So so coming to happen. The guy that he was talking about was his name was Dino's name was Dino Devaye. So he had signed cast Money and he was trying to sign fifty. But when he was trying to sign fifty at University originally before fifty went to in the scope and so he's still but University didn't want to sign fifth because of all the shit. The gun was so like, well now we're not signing him, so I guess, so Fifth still kept a relationship with him because he was trying to make something happen, you know. And then he sent over the music. So Dino sent over the music to Fifth, and then Fifth called me and I'm helping, Like I'm helping my boy move. I got a refrigerator, Like I'm want a dolly helping my homeboy move out of his apartment.

And so like they would have like artists perform, but you had to sell like ten tickets, but what get to get on the show. So it's like if I sell team, he sells tea, he sell he sellt We got a packed show and all our people was there. So I would that's what that's what I would do whatever. But every time I performed, it was like, damn, you're a great performer. You da da da We love your music, Blase, but this is me young, you know. And I kept doing that, kept doing that, kept doing that, and you know, you you start to meet people, and you start to grow, and people start to grow, you know, as you guys are going up and and then I start meeting people. That's like they're like, yo, we're gonna put you on this show. And you know, you win this contest, you you do a song with Lil Wayne, you know what I mean, like what and then you know, then they have this and then but the whole time they like they finishing you your bread you know what I'm saying. And so they trying to figure out who can sell the most tickets, so you can sell thirty, you know, thirty tickets at ten ten dollars each or twenty twenty dollars each, you know, and just how the people how they was making money. So so years after that go by and I do a song out here. It was a song called Touchdown that I did, and I met this guy there and this guy so I think it was a Jamaican guy. He was like, yo, you signed and signing anybody. I'm like nah, He's like, all right, cool, I got I got, I got somebody you know for you to talk to. I'm like, okay, cool. So so coming to happen. The guy that he was talking about was his name was Dino's name was Dino Devaye. So he had signed cast Money and he was trying to sign fifty. But when he was trying to sign fifty at University originally before fifty went to in the scope and so he's still but University didn't want to sign fifth because of all the shit. The gun was so like, well now we're not signing him, so I guess, so Fifth still kept a relationship with him because he was trying to make something happen, you know. And then he sent over the music. So Dino sent over the music to Fifth, and then Fifth called me and I'm helping, Like I'm helping my boy move. I got a refrigerator, Like I'm want a dolly helping my homeboy move out of his apartment.

You know what I'm saying.

You know what I'm saying.

It's like, yeah, they like yo, da da da da da. Some guy get on the phone. I'm on the phone with Dino. Then he goes, yo, yeah, yeah, that guy's fifty. What someone the phone?

It's like, yeah, they like yo, da da da da da. Some guy get on the phone. I'm on the phone with Dino. Then he goes, yo, yeah, yeah, that guy's fifty. What someone the phone?

What's up? Niggah? So now me and Fifth on the phone, we're talking for like an hour. You still have refrigerator. So so look I got the I got I got all of It's like we got all. We got the truck right there.

What's up? Niggah? So now me and Fifth on the phone, we're talking for like an hour. You still have refrigerator. So so look I got the I got I got all of It's like we got all. We got the truck right there.

We're really moving, bro, like I'm really helping him move. And so Fifth it's like, yo, so we chopping up. He's like, look, man, we gonna do something. So listen when we get off this phone. I think he said he was. I remember he was like, we got the phone. Don't go around telling your whole hood you.

We're really moving, bro, like I'm really helping him move. And so Fifth it's like, yo, so we chopping up. He's like, look, man, we gonna do something. So listen when we get off this phone. I think he said he was. I remember he was like, we got the phone. Don't go around telling your whole hood you.

Rich, right.

Rich, right.

He was like the last thing like yeah.

He was like the last thing like yeah.

He said, don't go around telling your whole hood you rich, right, and so he was like, I'm gonna come meet you in l A.

He said, don't go around telling your whole hood you rich, right, and so he was like, I'm gonna come meet you in l A.

All right, cool, So he came meet me in l A.

All right, cool, So he came meet me in l A.

We chopped it up and then that's around the time he was doing like his s K headphones, his his energy dreams, all that stuff. So we was running around, was like me and him and Floyd. That's when him and Floyd was like super tight. And but I didn't know what a single deal was. You know what I'm saying. You just know you got to deal song for the time exactly, and so okay, boom. So now that deal is over and I'm kind of like, yoh, what's going on? What's going on? Is going but I'm not knowing that this is a single diss, this is for one song you've been signed for. And I was okay, cool, But I always say it in contact with him, I always check you know, I mean check in, check in whatever.

We chopped it up and then that's around the time he was doing like his s K headphones, his his energy dreams, all that stuff. So we was running around, was like me and him and Floyd. That's when him and Floyd was like super tight. And but I didn't know what a single deal was. You know what I'm saying. You just know you got to deal song for the time exactly, and so okay, boom. So now that deal is over and I'm kind of like, yoh, what's going on? What's going on? Is going but I'm not knowing that this is a single diss, this is for one song you've been signed for. And I was okay, cool, But I always say it in contact with him, I always check you know, I mean check in, check in whatever.

So maybe I'm not. So I tell Dino who song came out?

So maybe I'm not. So I tell Dino who song came out?

Yeah, it came out, it came out, Yeah, it came out, and it was all right. But then I tell Dino became my manager at that time, I think he made the place. So I'm like, what's going on? So, you know, this is just a single deal, was like, this is how things work or whatever.

Yeah, it came out, it came out, Yeah, it came out, and it was all right. But then I tell Dino became my manager at that time, I think he made the place. So I'm like, what's going on? So, you know, this is just a single deal, was like, this is how things work or whatever.

I'm like, I thought I was fifty forever, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, chef is on that.

I'm like, I thought I was fifty forever, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, chef is on that.

You know.

You know.

Wow, man, you gotta come through, you gotta come through you. So I don't you know, I don't know. You know what I'm saying. I don't know.

Wow, man, you gotta come through, you gotta come through you. So I don't you know, I don't know. You know what I'm saying. I don't know.

I'm so I'm new to this and whatever. So I just buggled down, kept recording.

I'm so I'm new to this and whatever. So I just buggled down, kept recording.

And then.

And then.

Three years later, I mean, playhouse out here and I'm performing, and then I meet Buster and the busts like yo, we're starting to I'm like nobody.

Three years later, I mean, playhouse out here and I'm performing, and then I meet Buster and the busts like yo, we're starting to I'm like nobody.

He's like, oh, let's go talk to the studio. In the studio, let's go talk about cool. And then when I go home, like, what's up all these New York niggas? You know what I mean, I'm right here, you know what I mean? And so.

He's like, oh, let's go talk to the studio. In the studio, let's go talk about cool. And then when I go home, like, what's up all these New York niggas? You know what I mean, I'm right here, you know what I mean? And so.

And so I meet him at the studio. We start chopping it up. We started talking about life and and and principles and you know everything. I was telling him like as a man, like you know what, I go forward. I ain't going for while you know things like and and so be cool. So he goes to Atlantic, gives me a deal at Atlantic. You know when they give him a label deal. They give me a deal, get a label deal.

And so I meet him at the studio. We start chopping it up. We started talking about life and and and principles and you know everything. I was telling him like as a man, like you know what, I go forward. I ain't going for while you know things like and and so be cool. So he goes to Atlantic, gives me a deal at Atlantic. You know when they give him a label deal. They give me a deal, get a label deal.

It was to me.

It was to me.

And so now they gave me some money. Nigga, I ain't recorded for damn near a year.

And so now they gave me some money. Nigga, I ain't recorded for damn near a year.

Right off of your advance.

Right off of your advance.

Yeah, I'm spending the money, right, I'm busy. So I'm spending the money. Now, you got it.

Yeah, I'm spending the money, right, I'm busy. So I'm spending the money. Now, you got it.

Now you have a full record, right right right.

Now you have a full record, right right right.

I have a full record deal.

I have a full record deal.

So now I'm not knowing that. I just know they gave me some money. Nobody's teaching me.

So now I'm not knowing that. I just know they gave me some money. Nobody's teaching me.

And why here is this?

And why here is this?

This is two thousand and fourteen. Wow, okay, wait yeah, no, no, it's twenty thirteen.

This is two thousand and fourteen. Wow, okay, wait yeah, no, no, it's twenty thirteen.

It was thirteen. And then the December of twenty.

It was thirteen. And then the December of twenty.

Thirteen when it's happened, and so it to like August and the A and R comes my A and R riggs. At the time, he came with some verbiage. I don't know what he's talking about.

Thirteen when it's happened, and so it to like August and the A and R comes my A and R riggs. At the time, he came with some verbiage. I don't know what he's talking about.

So I did. I'm like what he's doing.

So I did. I'm like what he's doing.

They're like, oh, they're saying that they're about to drop you. You know, at the end of the year, you haven't put out no music, it's no, no, no nothing. I'm like, oh ship, So I'm panicking right.

They're like, oh, they're saying that they're about to drop you. You know, at the end of the year, you haven't put out no music, it's no, no, no nothing. I'm like, oh ship, So I'm panicking right.

So because you that at this point they just paid you the party.

So because you that at this point they just paid you the party.

Yeah, I was hoping, so look hoping that they gave me some money. I'm thinking, look right now, I'm like, they gave me some money.

Yeah, I was hoping, so look hoping that they gave me some money. I'm thinking, look right now, I'm like, they gave me some money.

I'm like, you know, y'all, ain't you know I had to like hustle for shit like this, like, y'all give me some money, Okay? Cool?

I'm like, you know, y'all, ain't you know I had to like hustle for shit like this, like, y'all give me some money, Okay? Cool?

And so.

And so.

We get into August. They gave me that conversation. We get the September, I dropped, I record Coco right, and I record Coco and I was about to shoot was about to shoot another video for a different song that.

We get into August. They gave me that conversation. We get the September, I dropped, I record Coco right, and I record Coco and I was about to shoot was about to shoot another video for a different song that.

I did, right, so I should this. This is the coldest thing ever.

I did, right, so I should this. This is the coldest thing ever.

So this song was about to put out and we shot a video, everything, big budget video everything. I was like, oh, this shit is about to be lit right. And I saw the video and I was like, I don't like it. And this is when I start going. I started paying attention where I really start to understand videos and understand that editors make the video as well, you know what I mean. So I'm like, what happened that scene? What happened, that scene, what happened and that seen you see? All those dope moments that made you excited about the video is not in the video. You go, oh, man I I don't like it. Then go so what you want to do? And then Bus like, so what you want to do? I'm like, man, I I don't like it. He said, you got another song? Like, I got another song I want to put out. This is exactly how I went. We're supposed to put the video the whole second song after no, No, No, this is this song. It was a song called Yum Yum that I did right, and we're supposed to put it out. I didn't like the video, big budget video, everything. I didn't like it. I don't like it.

So this song was about to put out and we shot a video, everything, big budget video everything. I was like, oh, this shit is about to be lit right. And I saw the video and I was like, I don't like it. And this is when I start going. I started paying attention where I really start to understand videos and understand that editors make the video as well, you know what I mean. So I'm like, what happened that scene? What happened, that scene, what happened and that seen you see? All those dope moments that made you excited about the video is not in the video. You go, oh, man I I don't like it. Then go so what you want to do? And then Bus like, so what you want to do? I'm like, man, I I don't like it. He said, you got another song? Like, I got another song I want to put out. This is exactly how I went. We're supposed to put the video the whole second song after no, No, No, this is this song. It was a song called Yum Yum that I did right, and we're supposed to put it out. I didn't like the video, big budget video, everything. I didn't like it. I don't like it.

I'm not I'm not putting that I don't like it. So Bus looking at me like, so what you want to do?

I'm not I'm not putting that I don't like it. So Bus looking at me like, so what you want to do?

Oh Tam, And he's like stressed out, like what the we just shot a whole spend that money on you. I'm like, I don't want to do. I recorded some ship the other night that I want to do right cool. So he's like, all right, word me here. So that's SOM's Coco. You go shoot the video on the project. It ain't no budget, no more, you know what I mean? But yeah, exactly, shoot that video. Everybody was scared, like, look at all this ship you put in the video or drop that bitch.

Oh Tam, And he's like stressed out, like what the we just shot a whole spend that money on you. I'm like, I don't want to do. I recorded some ship the other night that I want to do right cool. So he's like, all right, word me here. So that's SOM's Coco. You go shoot the video on the project. It ain't no budget, no more, you know what I mean? But yeah, exactly, shoot that video. Everybody was scared, like, look at all this ship you put in the video or drop that bitch.

And motherfucker that listen. I remember the first.

And motherfucker that listen. I remember the first.

Time I heard it.

Time I heard it.

I remember, I want to say, I was in Graystone. Yeah, what year is that? Twenty fourteen? Yes, yeah, around that time. Yeah, and that shit kicked in and I was like, what the fuck is that? And we had no idea you was from California?

I remember, I want to say, I was in Graystone. Yeah, what year is that? Twenty fourteen? Yes, yeah, around that time. Yeah, and that shit kicked in and I was like, what the fuck is that? And we had no idea you was from California?

Yeah? I love that part.

Yeah? I love that part.

We had no idea you was from California.

We had no idea you was from California.

And I kind of want to go back to what when you were saying you were like all these cats from New York had reached out to you. Do you feel like the politic with the culture that y'all have in l A kind of kept people away from reaching out to you to do a deal.

And I kind of want to go back to what when you were saying you were like all these cats from New York had reached out to you. Do you feel like the politic with the culture that y'all have in l A kind of kept people away from reaching out to you to do a deal.

I think that. I think that.

I think that. I think that.

Let me tell you, let me tell you this short story. I used to run around with just dj DJ Amen Yeah, and Amen did everything to try to get me on, but they were like the music that he does, everything, he don't sound like a West Coast artist.

Let me tell you, let me tell you this short story. I used to run around with just dj DJ Amen Yeah, and Amen did everything to try to get me on, but they were like the music that he does, everything, he don't sound like a West Coast artist.

This is what.

This is what.

People DJ's are saying right. And I used to a hustle in Atlanta all the time. I used to hustle, and so everybody was like, he's from Atlanta, He's I never said I wasn't. I never said nothing. I'm like, I'm gonna play the game. And so it's crazy because your own city be like, oh, well, if you don't sound like you're from here, you're from here, then you ain't from here, you know what I mean. But nigga, I'm from here for shelfah. But they're like, oh, if you're gonna sound like you from here, then we can't give you that love like that because we feel like that's that maybe not it's maybe not deemed authentic to our culture, you know, as far as l he is concerned. And so when I understood that, I played the card. And by the time they realized bro from it was too late. So that when it was like, oh, you see walking over here long down the street, right, and anybody who knows here like, oh, he cold.

People DJ's are saying right. And I used to a hustle in Atlanta all the time. I used to hustle, and so everybody was like, he's from Atlanta, He's I never said I wasn't. I never said nothing. I'm like, I'm gonna play the game. And so it's crazy because your own city be like, oh, well, if you don't sound like you're from here, you're from here, then you ain't from here, you know what I mean. But nigga, I'm from here for shelfah. But they're like, oh, if you're gonna sound like you from here, then we can't give you that love like that because we feel like that's that maybe not it's maybe not deemed authentic to our culture, you know, as far as l he is concerned. And so when I understood that, I played the card. And by the time they realized bro from it was too late. So that when it was like, oh, you see walking over here long down the street, right, and anybody who knows here like, oh, he cold.

So I just played the game the system.

So I just played the game the system.

That's how it came That's how it came back.

That's how it came That's how it came back.

Now you had to love me, yeah, yeah, yeah, And it worked out in your favor absolutely because that's how it came back around from Obviously, I'm from the Bay and man's from the Bay, and he had been telling me about right, and I didn't realize it was the same artists.

Now you had to love me, yeah, yeah, yeah, And it worked out in your favor absolutely because that's how it came back around from Obviously, I'm from the Bay and man's from the Bay, and he had been telling me about right, and I didn't realize it was the same artists.

Yeah, I didn't realize the same artist.

Yeah, I didn't realize the same artist.

Crazy because like you said, when you first hear Coco, you can't you really can't say where the.

Crazy because like you said, when you first hear Coco, you can't you really can't say where the.

Artist where's from? Ye? Yeah?

Artist where's from? Ye? Yeah?

Yeah, yeah yeah, because for one, you're always yelling at people.

Yeah, yeah yeah, because for one, you're always yelling at people.

I don't know what that's about. You like to yell. I know, the Spanish got torn.

I don't know what that's about. You like to yell. I know, the Spanish got torn.

So funny, you know what I'm saying.

So funny, you know what I'm saying.

Listen, I'm with Floyd Mayweather and the Strip Club. That's a great place to hear. He like, what's your take? What's your sake? That's so came on. I know he records, I know he records records. Like, who the fuck is what you're doing this? He's doing this? I said, what the fucking side, nigga?

Listen, I'm with Floyd Mayweather and the Strip Club. That's a great place to hear. He like, what's your take? What's your sake? That's so came on. I know he records, I know he records records. Like, who the fuck is what you're doing this? He's doing this? I said, what the fucking side, nigga?

I went to the Strip Club, Floyd, Floyd went to Strict Club. He played that I was in there. Play again, play again. That was his favorite song, play back. You have to walk around with the what's the what's the ship? That not before that, before the iPhone, they had the I what was it?

I went to the Strip Club, Floyd, Floyd went to Strict Club. He played that I was in there. Play again, play again. That was his favorite song, play back. You have to walk around with the what's the what's the ship? That not before that, before the iPhone, they had the I what was it?

I it was like the little the I Pop.

I it was like the little the I Pop.

Yeah, he used to walk around the ipid with the motherfucker headphones off.

Yeah, he used to walk around the ipid with the motherfucker headphones off.

When I say that, Nigga played that song over, no, pretty much. It pretty much by bottles to it one hundred thousand and one to Yeah, yep. I seen him. I've seen him.

When I say that, Nigga played that song over, no, pretty much. It pretty much by bottles to it one hundred thousand and one to Yeah, yep. I seen him. I've seen him.

I seen him in the club go throw like eighty and it was all on Coco, back to back to back to back to back, and I'm in there like and and when when they come in with they coming with boxes.

I seen him in the club go throw like eighty and it was all on Coco, back to back to back to back to back, and I'm in there like and and when when they come in with they coming with boxes.

You know what I'm saying, They can with boxes. They got to put the money in the boxes.

You know what I'm saying, They can with boxes. They got to put the money in the boxes.

So it's too much and it's over and it's my ship though, and I'm like, this ship is crazy.

So it's too much and it's over and it's my ship though, and I'm like, this ship is crazy.

It's crazy. Fact that it's not another song. Now, one other song.

It's crazy. Fact that it's not another song. Now, one other song.

Come on, He's like, if you want me to keep throwing this money, keep playing this song.

Come on, He's like, if you want me to keep throwing this money, keep playing this song.

So so I'm going to I'm going to just guess that Atlantic didn't drop.

So so I'm going to I'm going to just guess that Atlantic didn't drop.

You know, and that And at that point when I started to understand music, I said, damn, I wish they did.

You know, and that And at that point when I started to understand music, I said, damn, I wish they did.

That and dependent.

That and dependent.

Because this whole time I thought that he had Coco Independent before you did that deal you didn't.

Because this whole time I thought that he had Coco Independent before you did that deal you didn't.

You did that record? Because they literally that I dropped.

You did that record? Because they literally that I dropped.

I literally recorded Coco Boom with like September shot, the shot the video late September. Dropped Coco November twenty fourteen, and they say when they were supposed to drop me at the end of the year, So I probably had.

I literally recorded Coco Boom with like September shot, the shot the video late September. Dropped Coco November twenty fourteen, and they say when they were supposed to drop me at the end of the year, So I probably had.

Like one month month now.

Like one month month now.

And mind you, mind you when I dropped it, they didn't service it. It just went got you boom and then they had to catch on lab. But it was it was too it was too big. It was too big.

And mind you, mind you when I dropped it, they didn't service it. It just went got you boom and then they had to catch on lab. But it was it was too it was too big. It was too big.

So how much do you think that cost you? The video would have been independent? How much money you think it cost you being signed to catch it?

So how much do you think that cost you? The video would have been independent? How much money you think it cost you being signed to catch it?

No? No, no, how much money do you think you would have got in your pocket.

No? No, no, how much money do you think you would have got in your pocket.

If you would have been in with that record?

If you would have been in with that record?

What do you think?

What do you think?

I don't mean to make you mad to think about this, but you know, if you drop Coco as an independent artist.

I don't mean to make you mad to think about this, but you know, if you drop Coco as an independent artist.

It takes all the same way.

It takes all the same way.

Label eighty five, fifteen, ninety ten. How many are sold.

Label eighty five, fifteen, ninety ten. How many are sold.

It?

It?

What's the numbers today on Coco? For how much? How much I'm playing?

What's the numbers today on Coco? For how much? How much I'm playing?

Well, but I'm gonna take one thing, I tell you one thing.

Well, but I'm gonna take one thing, I tell you one thing.

Because your performance royalties alone.

Because your performance royalties alone.

My performance royalties is crazy alone. But how much money I made on the road just on just doing shows.

My performance royalties is crazy alone. But how much money I made on the road just on just doing shows.

Off of Coco. Like I'm like somewhere like in like ten, I can believe it. Yeah I'm talking yeah, yeah, just off Coca. Just off the yeah, just off the shows.

Off of Coco. Like I'm like somewhere like in like ten, I can believe it. Yeah I'm talking yeah, yeah, just off Coca. Just off the yeah, just off the shows.

You know what I'm saying. Yeah, just off show. And then I want you to go double back. And everybody's like, oh, he's a one hit winner, He's done it that. And I'm like I'm hearing this the whole time, right, and I'm like, oh, ship, So what I'm gonna do. I'm like, damn, I'm still getting money on the road. And when I'm doing interviews, they asked me, so, what's next? You know what I did after that?

You know what I'm saying. Yeah, just off show. And then I want you to go double back. And everybody's like, oh, he's a one hit winner, He's done it that. And I'm like I'm hearing this the whole time, right, and I'm like, oh, ship, So what I'm gonna do. I'm like, damn, I'm still getting money on the road. And when I'm doing interviews, they asked me, so, what's next? You know what I did after that?

Cut it boom, we're young question. Let me ask your question.

Cut it boom, we're young question. Let me ask your question.

Cut it cut I'm gonna tell you what he used to be doing when we be in the club.

Cut it cut I'm gonna tell you what he used to be doing when we be in the club.

Would come on and that nigga take it. Just look at nig like that. I used to sing like a chirt. I used to sing like a thinking when he comes up and say cut it, cut it, cut cut it, cut it, cut it, cut law, you gotta cut it. Cut it from me long and breaks this way too. You gotta cut it along, cut it cut. Let me ask you a question because because now we're starting to get into Now we're starting to get into songwriting and consistency and understand and understanding and being a professional at this ship being able to dial it up on demand. When you did Coco, did you feel like you had found something that you took from uh just just just from a format standpoint to to do cut it or was cut it just a new build for you? Completely?

Would come on and that nigga take it. Just look at nig like that. I used to sing like a chirt. I used to sing like a thinking when he comes up and say cut it, cut it, cut cut it, cut it, cut it, cut law, you gotta cut it. Cut it from me long and breaks this way too. You gotta cut it along, cut it cut. Let me ask you a question because because now we're starting to get into Now we're starting to get into songwriting and consistency and understand and understanding and being a professional at this ship being able to dial it up on demand. When you did Coco, did you feel like you had found something that you took from uh just just just from a format standpoint to to do cut it or was cut it just a new build for you? Completely?

I'm really I'm not even gonna lie. I was just drinking alcohol, and I'm.

I'm really I'm not even gonna lie. I was just drinking alcohol, and I'm.

You want to write here, record kids, you want to write records.

You want to write here, record kids, you want to write records.

And sometimes it's just open like because like I'm not trying to promote drinking, right, But what I say is like when I'm when I'm drinking, like even with my personality, like the only thing it does is it you know what I'm saying.

And sometimes it's just open like because like I'm not trying to promote drinking, right, But what I say is like when I'm when I'm drinking, like even with my personality, like the only thing it does is it you know what I'm saying.

So, but I can be be really happy, really upset, you know.

So, but I can be be really happy, really upset, you know.

But when I'm in a studio and I'm drinking, I'm in, I'm in I'm at home. You know, it's the vibes. I feel like I'm in the club. I feel like i'm you know, And so I actually recorded, cut it and push it the same night, Go get the money. I record that shit the same night. I recorded them the same night, same night, the same night. Yeah and so and so.

But when I'm in a studio and I'm drinking, I'm in, I'm in I'm at home. You know, it's the vibes. I feel like I'm in the club. I feel like i'm you know, And so I actually recorded, cut it and push it the same night, Go get the money. I record that shit the same night. I recorded them the same night, same night, the same night. Yeah and so and so.

But it's not like you're encouraging like, oh, drink and you're gonna make hit records. I think you're speaking from a place of your just your comfort zone.

But it's not like you're encouraging like, oh, drink and you're gonna make hit records. I think you're speaking from a place of your just your comfort zone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, studio, having a beverage, having.

Yeah, studio, having a beverage, having.

A good having Everybody has the methods.

A good having Everybody has the methods.

Everybody has their their environment.

Everybody has their their environment.

Because because when I was coming up and I was making music, it was always fun for me.

Because because when I was coming up and I was making music, it was always fun for me.

And so.

And so.

Then when I start getting a deal and everything and I watch everybody else, I'm like, damn, everybody's so serious, you know, and I'm like, it ain't it ain't fun. No more so when you when you when you create that that lane to where it's fun again and you like a kid again, that's when you start making all like your best music, you know what I mean, Because it's fun, you know. You know, sometimes we we you know, we're worry about criticism or other people, how other people think, whatever, But so much so much pressure, necessary pressure, But but you never felt that when you were trying to get on, you know what I mean.

Then when I start getting a deal and everything and I watch everybody else, I'm like, damn, everybody's so serious, you know, and I'm like, it ain't it ain't fun. No more so when you when you when you create that that lane to where it's fun again and you like a kid again, that's when you start making all like your best music, you know what I mean, Because it's fun, you know. You know, sometimes we we you know, we're worry about criticism or other people, how other people think, whatever, But so much so much pressure, necessary pressure, But but you never felt that when you were trying to get on, you know what I mean.

We were trying to get on. It was just like, this is who I am just doing that?

We were trying to get on. It was just like, this is who I am just doing that?

You're singing your ass off, you're doing it. Nothing was a bad song. Nothing was that. Nothing was you keep listening to that ship your whole leader studio. You get a copy of that, you listening to the whole way home, like damn. And so I had to you know, with psychological for me. So I had to go, you know what, let's get back in that lane. Let me just have fun. And even if I don't court nothing tonight, that's okay. I bring people to the studio. Everybody, have a drink, y'all have a drink here. We're gonna party. Have whatever come to me, come to me. And if I don't record anything this night, that's what.

You're singing your ass off, you're doing it. Nothing was a bad song. Nothing was that. Nothing was you keep listening to that ship your whole leader studio. You get a copy of that, you listening to the whole way home, like damn. And so I had to you know, with psychological for me. So I had to go, you know what, let's get back in that lane. Let me just have fun. And even if I don't court nothing tonight, that's okay. I bring people to the studio. Everybody, have a drink, y'all have a drink here. We're gonna party. Have whatever come to me, come to me. And if I don't record anything this night, that's what.

That's okay.

That's okay.

I'm okay with that, you know what I mean, because I know what I came. I came to have a good time.

I'm okay with that, you know what I mean, because I know what I came. I came to have a good time.

And listen and within that good time, even if it's not that night, reflecting on that good time. Oh Ship, there's a record, there's a gym in there, there's a there's a moment where we was saying whatever we were saying, we'll put that in it. Like the experience is what makes the record. Yeah yeah, yeah, living this ship is what makes the records. You know. People ask me like, how do you stay current? I was like, I just stay alive. Yeah for real, that's how you say. I write about today. I write about things I actually do. I'm doing these things. I'm putting the ship on. You know what I'm saying, I'm that name in Marcus. I'm surfing through the through the drip. Yeah, you know. You know what I'm saying. I'm you know, I'm at the strip club, you know, so I know where they got the best chicken tenders. I know where the best impossible bird is. A magic city men there. So it's like as you as you live and you're in it and you stay in it. It don't matter if you do it that night or even even that. We don't put don't put that unnecessarily. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, guard ain't like that. Yep.

And listen and within that good time, even if it's not that night, reflecting on that good time. Oh Ship, there's a record, there's a gym in there, there's a there's a moment where we was saying whatever we were saying, we'll put that in it. Like the experience is what makes the record. Yeah yeah, yeah, living this ship is what makes the records. You know. People ask me like, how do you stay current? I was like, I just stay alive. Yeah for real, that's how you say. I write about today. I write about things I actually do. I'm doing these things. I'm putting the ship on. You know what I'm saying, I'm that name in Marcus. I'm surfing through the through the drip. Yeah, you know. You know what I'm saying. I'm you know, I'm at the strip club, you know, so I know where they got the best chicken tenders. I know where the best impossible bird is. A magic city men there. So it's like as you as you live and you're in it and you stay in it. It don't matter if you do it that night or even even that. We don't put don't put that unnecessarily. Yeah yeah, yeah yeah, guard ain't like that. Yep.

You just know at the end of the day, I'm gonna get back to the plate and I'm a bad again.

You just know at the end of the day, I'm gonna get back to the plate and I'm a bad again.

That's it, so Coco. And then the second one is cut it, cut it, and then the third one is push it. And then after that was I didn't think thick with two chains.

That's it, so Coco. And then the second one is cut it, cut it, and then the third one is push it. And then after that was I didn't think thick with two chains.

So did you what did you what did you realize though that you were doing or do you realize that you do motivational music?

So did you what did you what did you realize though that you were doing or do you realize that you do motivational music?

You know what?

You know what?

I feel like I can lift the whole gym when I'm listening.

I feel like I can lift the whole gym when I'm listening.

Now, teacher, okay, throw your whole back out.

Now, teacher, okay, throw your whole back out.

I was at the airport the other day in the air for the day.

I was at the airport the other day in the air for the day.

I was buying I buy some chips, and the.

I was buying I buy some chips, and the.

Lady was like, damn, I just got back from the gym listening to you, you know what I mean? And I and I never knew it like that. I just always because I used to like and still to this day, like like, I party so much and have a good time so much. So when I am like I spent so much time in the club, like girls just like you always in the club, I'm like, yeah, well my music is there too, sweetheart.

Lady was like, damn, I just got back from the gym listening to you, you know what I mean? And I and I never knew it like that. I just always because I used to like and still to this day, like like, I party so much and have a good time so much. So when I am like I spent so much time in the club, like girls just like you always in the club, I'm like, yeah, well my music is there too, sweetheart.

What are you doing here? You do research? Yeah, I'm actually in there.

What are you doing here? You do research? Yeah, I'm actually in there.

Yeah yeah, and so so I So I listened to the vibration, the sounds, I listened to the pockets, listening to other people like and so I start making recordster where it starts becoming like chance.

Yeah yeah, and so so I So I listened to the vibration, the sounds, I listened to the pockets, listening to other people like and so I start making recordster where it starts becoming like chance.

You know, and I'm not knowing it, but I'm knowing it, you.

You know, and I'm not knowing it, but I'm knowing it, you.

Know what I'm saying.

Know what I'm saying.

And so when I spend the.

And so when I spend the.

Time in the club when I'm partying, then I said, I can hear what catches somebody, and I go, okay, I'm.

Time in the club when I'm partying, then I said, I can hear what catches somebody, and I go, okay, I'm.

Not gonna do exactly what that is.

Not gonna do exactly what that is.

But if I do what I do and I get to catch them the way that caught them, then I'm you know, I'm good. So when I am in the studio, I'm in the club, you know, and and and I'm near and I'm like, what if I'm like, no, no, no, that i' sound right. Okay, Now I said too many words right here. It's not gonna be to the to the to the human ear.

But if I do what I do and I get to catch them the way that caught them, then I'm you know, I'm good. So when I am in the studio, I'm in the club, you know, and and and I'm near and I'm like, what if I'm like, no, no, no, that i' sound right. Okay, Now I said too many words right here. It's not gonna be to the to the to the human ear.

So I gotta what's catchy? What to be there?

So I gotta what's catchy? What to be there?

Okay, I say this, Okay, then I play it back. I'm like, alright, cool, I look good.

Okay, I say this, Okay, then I play it back. I'm like, alright, cool, I look good.

I look like back. You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean.

I look like back. You know what I'm saying, Like you know what I mean? Like you know what I mean.

It's so much you giving real information right now, You're giving a masterclass in songwriting. Yeah, because listen, you know your pocket, you know where your music belongs.

It's so much you giving real information right now, You're giving a masterclass in songwriting. Yeah, because listen, you know your pocket, you know where your music belongs.

You make music for the club. You make music for the club.

You make music for the club. You make music for the club.

So okay, what are the elements of the club people are either singing off key.

So okay, what are the elements of the club people are either singing off key.

You know what I'm saying, They really can't remember a whole bunch of shit because they might be drunk.

You know what I'm saying, They really can't remember a whole bunch of shit because they might be drunk.

So they need only a certain amount of words like you said, like okay, maybe I said too much. That is that is songwriting. That is truly songwriting. Somebody could try to you know, you got the purest of the world. That'd be like, oh no, you must do this, No motherfucker, you must take yourself away from your extreme talented self and say, what would these people, the person who hasn't been to Berkeley School of Music, what are they going to dance to? How can I motivate them in their lives? What do they want to ride around in the car?