Grammy Award–winning artist Kelly Rowland and educator Jessica McKay join the podcast to talk about motherhood and share their children's book Always with You, Always with Me. They discuss:
The inspiration behind the book and the struggles of being a working mom.
Why representation in books and media is so important (and what happens when there is a lack of it). 
Mom guilt and how they work through it. 
How writing this book impacted how they think about their own mothers.
Jessica's inspiring views on flipping the narrative around motherhood + career
How Kelly was able to forgive her mom after she passed away.
How motherhood changed them. 
Why Kelly thinks girl groups are necessary. 
The most fun Kelly's ever had in the entertainment industry (Coachella with Beyonce). 
The biggest misconceptions about fame. 
Kelly's breast augmentation and how she would talk to her own kids/nieces about it.
How they knew their husbands were the one. 

Order their children's book Always with You, Always with Me: https://www.amazon.com/Always-You-Me-Kelly-Rowland/dp/0593465512

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Grammy Award–winning artist Kelly Rowland and educator Jessica McKay join the podcast to talk about motherhood and share their children's book Always with You, Always with Me. They discuss: <ul class="ul1"> <li class="li2">The inspiration behind the book and the struggles of being a working mom.</li> <li class="li2">Why representation in books and media is so important (and what happens when there is a lack of it). </li> <li class="li2">Mom guilt and how they work through it. </li> <li class="li2">How writing this book impacted how they think about their own mothers.</li> <li class="li2">Jessica's inspiring views on flipping the narrative around motherhood + career</li> <li class="li2">How Kelly was able to forgive her mom after she passed away.</li> <li class="li2">How motherhood changed them. </li> <li class="li2">Why Kelly thinks girl groups are necessary. </li> <li class="li2">The most fun Kelly's ever had in the entertainment industry (Coachella with Beyonce). </li> <li class="li2">The biggest misconceptions about fame. </li> <li class="li2">Kelly's breast augmentation and how she would talk to her own kids/nieces about it.</li> <li class="li2">How they knew their husbands were the one. </li> </ul> Order their children's book Always with You, Always with Me: <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Always-You-Me-Kelly-Rowland/dp/0593465512">https://www.amazon.com/Always-You-Me-Kelly-Rowland/dp/0593465512</a> Thank you to today's podcast partner: OUAI: 15% off site wide when you use the code: PRETTYSMART Vaulted affiliate program for you to sign up through: <a href="https://vaulted.com/gold-affiliate-program/">https://vaulted.com/gold-affiliate-program/</a>

There are celebrity interviews, and there are life-changing conversations. On Question Everything, you get both. Journalist Danielle Robay has a rare gift: she makes people feel safe + seen enough to tell the truth. Every week, she draws out the stories the world's most fascinating people rarely get to tell– the heartbreaks, the risks, the controversies, the beliefs they had to unlearn to become who they are and every now and then, their thoughts on the Bravoverse. You'll come for their story. You'll leave rethinking your own.

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Danielle is also the creator of the bestselling QUESTION EVERYTHING card game series, which has sparked connection in thousands of living rooms around the world, and the co-executive producer and host of Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, alongside Reese Witherspoon. Dubbed "The Queen of Questions," she brings both heart and rigor to every conversation — a background in political science, a Gloria Steinem Fellowship, and a mentorship under Larry King, whose legacy of curiosity and connection she's carried forward across more than 8,000 hours of interviews with icons from Taylor Swift to Malala Yousafzai.

There are celebrity interviews, and there are life-changing conversations. On Question Everything, you get both. Journalist Danielle Robay has a rare gift: she makes people feel safe + seen enough to tell the truth. Every week, she draws out the stories the world's most fascinating people rarely get to tell&ndash; the heartbreaks, the risks, the controversies, the beliefs they had to unlearn to become who they are and every now and then, their thoughts on the Bravoverse. You'll come for their story. You'll leave rethinking your own.
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Danielle is also the creator of the bestselling QUESTION EVERYTHING card game series, which has sparked connection in thousands of living rooms around the world, and the co-executive producer and host of&nbsp;Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club, alongside Reese Witherspoon. Dubbed "The Queen of Questions," she brings both heart and rigor to every conversation &mdash; a background in political science, a Gloria Steinem Fellowship, and a mentorship under Larry King, whose legacy of curiosity and connection she's carried forward across more than 8,000 hours of interviews with icons from Taylor Swift to Malala Yousafzai.

QUESTION EVERYTHING

Behind every headline is a person + a deeper story. Question Everything with journalist Danielle Robay cuts through social media buzz to uncover the voices, ideas, and cultural moments that shape how we see the world. Each week, she asks bold questions that challenge assumptions and reveal the nuance behind the narratives, inviting you to look closer at the world, and at yourself. Because there's always more to the story.
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Danielle is also the creator of the bestselling QUESTION EVERYTHING card game series, which has sparked connection and conversation in thousands of living rooms around the world. She's also the co-executive producer (alongside Reese Witherspoon) and host of Bookmarked by Reese's Book Club. With her signature curiosity—dubbed "The Queen of Questions"—and a background in political science, Danielle brings both heart and rigor to every conversation. A Gloria Steinem Fellow and mentee of Larry King, she's carried forward a legacy of curiosity and connection, interviewing icons from Taylor Swift to Malala Yousafzai in more than 8,000 hours of elevated conversation.

Kelly Rowland + Jessica McKay: Modern Motherhood + Why Girl Groups Are Necessary

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What does it mean to raise confident, emotionally healthy kids in a world of AI, social media, beauty standards and the manosphere? Dr. Shefali Tsabary, clinical psychologist and author of the 2010 bestseller The Conscious Parent, joins Danielle to unpack her new books, Raising Conscious Daughters and Raising Conscious Sons. Dr. Shefali lays out a new reality of childhood, including the ways girls are excelling while struggling internally, why boys are searching for new models of masculinity and how algorithms are competing with parents for our children’s attention. She shares insight into everything from “good girl” conditioning and the male gaze to screen time, self-worth, curfews and whether 30 minutes of truly present parenting can actually be enough. Plus, Dr. Shefali challenges us to rethink what it means to be a “good” parent in our world today and shares why raising secure kids may have less to do with controlling them and more to do with trusting, listening and showing up. In this episode you’ll learn: 
How watching Netflix’s Adolescence gave Dr. Shefali a new sense of urgency around raising boys and ultimately inspired her book Raising Conscious Sons 
How AI and social media are competing with parents for kids’ attention, attachment and connection
Why boys are increasingly drawn to the manosphere and what parents can do to model a healthier version of masculinity.
How parents can teach boys to process rejection, vulnerability and difficult emotions instead of suppressing them.
Why children and teens may turn to AI chatbots for validation and emotional support.
How parental phone use can impact a child’s self-worth and sense of being seen.
Why lowering expectations in early childhood can actually help kids build confidence.
How giving kids age-appropriate choices can develop independence, resilience and self-trust.
Why raising a “good girl” can unintentionally teach daughters people-pleasing, obedience and silence.
Why girls can appear successful on the outside while struggling with anxiety, perfectionism and pressure within.
What the Kardashians can teach us about beauty standards, female empowerment, the male gaze and the messages young girls absorb from culture.
Why Dr. Shefali challenges the idea that women dress entirely “for themselves”—and why understanding our desire for external validation matters.
Why strict rules and too much parental control can sometimes create more rebellion in kids
How algorithms influence what we see, want and believe, and why Dr. Shefali believes our social media feeds are increasingly leading us to being “brainwashed.”
Why Dr. Shefali says Emma Grede’s viral “three-hour mom” comment may have a point: quality time with kids can matter more than quantity.

Dr. Shefali’s Book Recommendation: The Power of Nowby Eckhart Tolle 

Grab a copy of Dr. Shefali’s books, Raising Conscious Daughtershere and Raising Conscious Sonshere.

Follow Dr. Shefali on Instagram.

What does it mean to raise confident, emotionally healthy kids in a world of AI, social media, beauty standards and the manosphere? Dr. Shefali Tsabary, clinical psychologist and author of the 2010 bestseller The Conscious Parent, joins Danielle to unpack her new books, Raising Conscious Daughters and Raising Conscious Sons. Dr. Shefali lays out a new reality of childhood, including the ways girls are excelling while struggling internally, why boys are searching for new models of masculinity and how algorithms are competing with parents for our children&rsquo;s attention. She shares insight into everything from &ldquo;good girl&rdquo; conditioning and the male gaze to screen time, self-worth, curfews and whether 30 minutes of truly present parenting can actually be enough. Plus, Dr. Shefali challenges us to rethink what it means to be a &ldquo;good&rdquo; parent in our world today and shares why raising secure kids may have less to do with controlling them and more to do with trusting, listening and showing up. In this episode you&rsquo;ll learn:&nbsp;
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">How watching Netflix&rsquo;s Adolescence gave Dr. Shefali a new sense of urgency around raising boys and ultimately inspired her book Raising Conscious Sons&nbsp;</li>
<li aria-level="1">How AI and social media are competing with parents for kids&rsquo; attention, attachment and connection</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why boys are increasingly drawn to the manosphere and what parents can do to model a healthier version of masculinity.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How parents can teach boys to process rejection, vulnerability and difficult emotions instead of suppressing them.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why children and teens may turn to AI chatbots for validation and emotional support.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How parental phone use can impact a child&rsquo;s self-worth and sense of being seen.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why lowering expectations in early childhood can actually help kids build confidence.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How giving kids age-appropriate choices can develop independence, resilience and self-trust.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why raising a &ldquo;good girl&rdquo; can unintentionally teach daughters people-pleasing, obedience and silence.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why girls can appear successful on the outside while struggling with anxiety, perfectionism and pressure within.</li>
<li aria-level="1">What the Kardashians can teach us about beauty standards, female empowerment, the male gaze and the messages young girls absorb from culture.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why Dr. Shefali challenges the idea that women dress entirely &ldquo;for themselves&rdquo;&mdash;and why understanding our desire for external validation matters.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why strict rules and too much parental control can sometimes create more rebellion in kids</li>
<li aria-level="1">How algorithms influence what we see, want and believe, and why Dr. Shefali believes our social media feeds are increasingly leading us to being &ldquo;brainwashed.&rdquo;</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why Dr. Shefali says Emma Grede&rsquo;s viral &ldquo;three-hour mom&rdquo; comment may have a point: quality time with kids can matter more than quantity.</li>
</ul>
Dr. Shefali&rsquo;s Book Recommendation: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-power-of-now-a-guide-to-spiritual-enlightenment-eckhart-tolle/0b0083fb4fd451ab?ean=9781577314806&amp;utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=%7Bcampaignname%7D&amp;utm_content=6443417794&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=16235479093&amp;gbraid=0AAAAACfld41rcglhS9GDOFLrfageCagOG&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjwnvTUBhBoEiwAZNDxZ8J_XKzoV9hs80zuRlagHJ7qAnbpLcucGpEuNJ0Vu2gymdIqNffYbhoCzXkQAvD_BwE">The Power of Now</a> by Eckhart Tolle&nbsp;
Grab a copy of Dr. Shefali&rsquo;s books, Raising Conscious Daughters <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/raising-conscious-daughters-building-confidence-courage-and-inner-power-in-an-anxious-world-dr-shefali-tsabary/30c522bc4f0a025f?ean=9780063499560&amp;affiliate=397">here</a> and Raising Conscious Sons <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/raising-conscious-sons-cultivating-purpose-connection-and-inner-power-in-a-chaotic-world-dr-shefali-tsabary/4b6cdad871c44a69?ean=9780063499515&amp;affiliate=397">here</a>.
Follow Dr. Shefali on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/doctorshefali/?hl=en">Instagram</a>.

The Internet is Messing Up Our Kids with Dr. Shefali

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What happens when you start earning more than your partner, friends or even your parents?  What does it actually mean to be rich? New York Times bestselling author, Financial Feminist host and Her First $100K founder Tori Dunlap challenges the different financial lessons taught to women and men, reveals the investing mistake she sees constantly and explains why building wealth requires us to think beyond cutting expenses. Danielle and Tori also talk candidly about buying versus renting, out-earning a partner, separating net worth from self-worth—and why talking openly about money can deepen our relationships.

In this episode:
The financial audit that reveals whether you have an earning problem or a spending problem.
Why women are taught to save while men are taught to invest—and how that difference can shape a lifetime of wealth.
The overlooked second step that keeps money in many Roth IRAs, 401(k)s and brokerage accounts from actually being invested.
Why your earning potential may matter more than finding another expense to cut.
How multiple income streams helped Tori reach her first $100,000—and what she would do differently today.
Why renting isn’t “throwing money away” and buying a home may be an emotional decision rather than a financial one.
The hidden complications of out-earning your partner, parents or friends.
Why women can feel shame both when they’re struggling financially and when they’re succeeding.
How talking openly about money can create greater honesty and intimacy in your relationships.
Why having a high income means little if you don’t know how to protect, invest and sustain it.
The difference between a $10 purchase and a “$10,000 decision”—and which one deserves more of your attention.
Why automating your savings is one of the simplest financial habits with the greatest return.
How Tori learned to separate her net worth from her self-worth.
Why money management is a learned skill, not a trait you either possess or don’t.
How financial freedom can help you become “unfuckwithable”—able to leave any room, job or relationship that doesn’t respect you.

Tori’s Book Recommendation: Life of Pi by Yann Martel.

Grab a copy of Tori’s book, Financial Feminist, here.

Follow Tori on Instagram.

What happens when you start earning more than your partner, friends or even your parents?&nbsp; What does it actually mean to be rich? New York Times bestselling author, Financial Feminist host and Her First $100K founder Tori Dunlap challenges the different financial lessons taught to women and men, reveals the investing mistake she sees constantly and explains why building wealth requires us to think beyond cutting expenses. Danielle and Tori also talk candidly about buying versus renting, out-earning a partner, separating net worth from self-worth&mdash;and why talking openly about money can deepen our relationships.
In this episode:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">The financial audit that reveals whether you have an earning problem or a spending problem.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why women are taught to save while men are taught to invest&mdash;and how that difference can shape a lifetime of wealth.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The overlooked second step that keeps money in many Roth IRAs, 401(k)s and brokerage accounts from actually being invested.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why your earning potential may matter more than finding another expense to cut.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How multiple income streams helped Tori reach her first $100,000&mdash;and what she would do differently today.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why renting isn&rsquo;t &ldquo;throwing money away&rdquo; and buying a home may be an emotional decision rather than a financial one.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The hidden complications of out-earning your partner, parents or friends.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why women can feel shame both when they&rsquo;re struggling financially and when they&rsquo;re succeeding.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How talking openly about money can create greater honesty and intimacy in your relationships.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why having a high income means little if you don&rsquo;t know how to protect, invest and sustain it.</li>
<li aria-level="1">The difference between a $10 purchase and a &ldquo;$10,000 decision&rdquo;&mdash;and which one deserves more of your attention.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why automating your savings is one of the simplest financial habits with the greatest return.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How Tori learned to separate her net worth from her self-worth.</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why money management is a learned skill, not a trait you either possess or don&rsquo;t.</li>
<li aria-level="1">How financial freedom can help you become &ldquo;unfuckwithable&rdquo;&mdash;able to leave any room, job or relationship that doesn&rsquo;t respect you.</li>
</ul>
Tori&rsquo;s Book Recommendation: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/life-of-pi-yann-martel/2901a508488c9a78?ean=9780156027328&amp;bkshp-astro=t">Life of Pi </a>by Yann Martel.
Grab a copy of Tori&rsquo;s book, Financial Feminist, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/financial-feminist-overcome-the-patriarchy-s-bullsh-t-to-master-your-money-and-build-a-life-you-love-tori-dunlap/159d33bd0036cf83?ean=9780063260269&amp;bkshp-astro=t">here</a>.
Follow Tori on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/herfirst100k">Instagram</a>.

What Happens When You Out-Earn Your Partner? with Tori Dunlap

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Priya Parker wants us all to stop running from conflict and she says there is actually an art to fighting! The bestselling author of The Art of Gathering is back with her new book The Art of Fighting, a guide to having the hard conversations that can actually bring us closer together. Priya joins Danielle to unpack why avoiding conflict may be making us lonelier, how to figure out which relationships are worth fighting for, and why every fight may be revealing something deeper that we want. Plus, Priya looks at some of pop culture’s most memorable conflicts: from Issa and Molly’s friendship rupture on Insecure and Ross and Rachel’s infamous fight on Friends to the real conflict hiding inside The Devil Wears Prada. If you’ve ever avoided a difficult conversation, struggled to speak up, or wondered whether it’s time to repair a relationship or walk away, this episode will change the way you think about fighting. Priya shares:
Why avoiding conflict might actually be making us lonelier
How healthy conflict can bring us closer together
Why the fights we avoid can reveal what we really want
How to figure out what you’re actually fighting about
Why conflict can be an unexpected form of intimacy
How to know when a relationship is worth fighting for — and when it’s time to walk away
What to do when a friendship starts to feel different
Why some friendships need to evolve as we change
What Insecure gets right about friendship breakups and “the dangerous truth”
What the Ross and Rachel fight on Friends teaches us about group dynamics
Why Priya thinks we’ve misunderstood the real conflict in The Devil Wears Prada
A new way to look at Miranda Priestly’s iconic cerulean sweater speech
How to ask better questions during difficult conversations
Why you don’t have to resolve every fight in the moment
The surprising reason some of our hardest fights can become a doorway to deeper connection

Priya’s Book Recommendation: The Soul of Moneyby Lynne Twist

Grab a copy of Priya’s book, The Art of Fighting, here.

Follow Priya on Instagram.

Priya Parker wants us all to stop running from conflict and she says there is actually an art to fighting! The bestselling author of The Art of Gathering is back with her new book The Art of Fighting, a guide to having the hard conversations that can actually bring us closer together. Priya joins Danielle to unpack why avoiding conflict may be making us lonelier, how to figure out which relationships are worth fighting for, and why every fight may be revealing something deeper that we want. Plus, Priya looks at some of pop culture&rsquo;s most memorable conflicts: from Issa and Molly&rsquo;s friendship rupture on Insecure and Ross and Rachel&rsquo;s infamous fight on Friends to the real conflict hiding inside The Devil Wears Prada. If you&rsquo;ve ever avoided a difficult conversation, struggled to speak up, or wondered whether it&rsquo;s time to repair a relationship or walk away, this episode will change the way you think about fighting. Priya shares:
<ul>
<li aria-level="1">Why avoiding conflict might actually be making us lonelier</li>
<li aria-level="1">How healthy conflict can bring us closer together</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why the fights we avoid can reveal what we really want</li>
<li aria-level="1">How to figure out what you&rsquo;re actually fighting about</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why conflict can be an unexpected form of intimacy</li>
<li aria-level="1">How to know when a relationship is worth fighting for &mdash; and when it&rsquo;s time to walk away</li>
<li aria-level="1">What to do when a friendship starts to feel different</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why some friendships need to evolve as we change</li>
<li aria-level="1">What Insecure gets right about friendship breakups and &ldquo;the dangerous truth&rdquo;</li>
<li aria-level="1">What the Ross and Rachel fight on Friends teaches us about group dynamics</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why Priya thinks we&rsquo;ve misunderstood the real conflict in The Devil Wears Prada</li>
<li aria-level="1">A new way to look at Miranda Priestly&rsquo;s iconic cerulean sweater speech</li>
<li aria-level="1">How to ask better questions during difficult conversations</li>
<li aria-level="1">Why you don&rsquo;t have to resolve every fight in the moment</li>
<li aria-level="1">The surprising reason some of our hardest fights can become a doorway to deeper connection</li>
</ul>
Priya&rsquo;s Book Recommendation: <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-soul-of-money-transforming-your-relationship-with-money-and-life-lynne-twist/7bc8ed9428d0d499?utm_source=google&amp;utm_medium=cpc&amp;utm_campaign=dsa_nonbrand&amp;utm_content=%7Badgroupname%7D&amp;utm_term=aud-2151538068632:dsa-19959388920&amp;gad_source=1&amp;gad_campaignid=12440232635&amp;gbraid=0AAAAACfld42x7Uk6-YAf6-HAidz5951p8&amp;gclid=CjwKCAjw1bvTBhBbEiwAzbP8L3m-HuNBYEEuyCY6F63I4m25ZfzVM5APYotf6IRug9axzYSZUBrvGRoCzNEQAvD_BwE">The Soul of Money</a> by Lynne Twist
Grab a copy of Priya&rsquo;s book, The Art of Fighting, <a href="https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-art-of-fighting-the-transformative-power-of-conflict-priya-n-parker/4a99cb4fb9ddf088?ean=9780593420225&amp;bkshp-astro=t">here</a>.
Follow Priya on <a href="https://www.instagram.com/priyaparker/?hl=en">Instagram</a>.

Do You Know How to Fight...Well? With Priya Parker

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Kelly Rowland + Jessica McKay: Modern Motherhood + Why Girl Groups Are Necessary

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