In this conversation, we look at caregiving that is provided by a family member or friend and how this has an effect on the mental and physical health of caregivers. As part of this discussion, Aldrin speaks to clinical psychologist Thabiso Dinale as well as economist and researcher Busi Sibeko about how care work also entrenches gender inequality in the economy. He also speaks to a father, Dimakatso Mokwena who cares for his daughter who has special needs.