Now that the “And Then There Was Shawn” recap is in the rear view, it’s time to get a different perspective - from behind the camera.

The episode’s director, and reoccurring podcast guest, Jeff McCracken, reveals his unique approach for the spooky script, and how no audience and a single camera created some new challenges for the cast and crew.

Plus…the gang asks McCracken about the “Yell Heard ‘Round the World,” and we hear the real reason for why they found out how long his fuse actually was. It’s an all-new, deep dive, Pod Meets World!