“Outlaws” is starting 2026 out strong, with TS Madison’s dear friends, superstar power couple Da Brat-tat-tat and Kaleidoscope Hair Products CEO Jesseca “Judy” Dupart!

In the spirit of Capricorn season, we get marketing 101 from Judy and what she taught TS Madison about personal branding. It was a brand deal that brought this couple together– the pair tell us how a rapper and a beauty mogul fell in love out of the public eye, from a business meeting turned date to a “Coming to America” style proposal to launching a reality TV series together.

Next, Da Brat gets into her decision to keep her sexuality private during her early fame, why she felt it was an act of protection rather than hiding, and how Judy inspired her to come out publicly. And we’re rewinding even further back, as Judy breaks down her 2007 arrest and what she learned in prison. 

Also: Unlearning stereotypes; why Da Brat doesn’t consider herself a Stud; fire sign/air sign romance; how “Brat Loves Judy” came to be; and navigating pregnancy on TV.

Plus a sneak peak and Da Brat and Judy’s upcoming memoir, “The Way Love Goes: A Guide to Building a ‘Beaurtiful’ and Everlasting Relationship”, out next month! Pre-order now! 

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

&ldquo;Outlaws&rdquo; is starting 2026 out strong, with TS Madison&rsquo;s dear friends, superstar power couple Da Brat-tat-tat and Kaleidoscope Hair Products CEO Jesseca &ldquo;Judy&rdquo; Dupart!
In the spirit of Capricorn season, we get marketing 101 from Judy and what she taught TS Madison about personal branding. It was a brand deal that brought this couple together&ndash; the pair tell us how a rapper and a beauty mogul fell in love out of the public eye, from a business meeting turned date to a &ldquo;Coming to America&rdquo; style proposal to launching a reality TV series together.
Next, Da Brat gets into her decision to keep her sexuality private during her early fame, why she felt it was an act of protection rather than hiding, and how Judy inspired her to come out publicly. And we&rsquo;re rewinding even further back, as Judy breaks down her 2007 arrest and what she learned in prison.&nbsp;
Also: Unlearning stereotypes; why Da Brat doesn&rsquo;t consider herself a Stud; fire sign/air sign romance; how &ldquo;Brat Loves Judy&rdquo; came to be; and navigating pregnancy on TV.
Plus a sneak peak and Da Brat and Judy&rsquo;s upcoming memoir, &ldquo;The Way Love Goes: A Guide to Building a &lsquo;Beaurtiful&rsquo; and Everlasting Relationship&rdquo;, out next month! <a href="https://www.harpercollins.com/products/the-way-love-goes-da-brat-judy?variant=43823023620130">Pre-order now!</a>&nbsp;
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by<a href="https://turtlerunent.com/"> Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Da Brat & Judy: Love and Happiness Are Not the Same

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TS Madison is joined by actor, model, songwriter, music producer, trans icon, (and Miss Mary’s celebrity crush), Laith Ashley!

On “Outlaws,” we want to open up a space for guests to break their identity and discuss the big issues in the LGBTQ+ community. With a background in social work for queer youth and too many “first trans man to–” labels to count (not to mention, a Taylor Swift music video appearance), Laith is the perfect guest to get into the trans experience.

Laith opens up about his early experiences with gender nonconformity, messaging around not being “feminine” enough, and eventually growing into his identity as a trans man. He and Maddie discuss their respective experiences being trans entertainers in the spotlight– including the lessons they’ve learned both from within and outside of the community. 

Also: The fluidity of labels; why Laith identifies as “Afro-Caribbean” rather than “Latino”; T4T relationships; how anti-intellectualism and transphobia feed off of each other; the importance of sexual health education; and a brief interlude on the US’s imperial history.

And Maddie says this discussion is not over… maybe a part 2 in the New Year?

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

TS Madison is joined by actor, model, songwriter, music producer, trans icon, (and Miss Mary&rsquo;s celebrity crush), Laith Ashley!
On &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; we want to open up a space for guests to break their identity and discuss the big issues in the LGBTQ+ community. With a background in social work for queer youth and too many &ldquo;first trans man to&ndash;&rdquo; labels to count (not to mention, a Taylor Swift music video appearance), Laith is the perfect guest to get into the trans experience.
Laith opens up about his early experiences with gender nonconformity, messaging around not being &ldquo;feminine&rdquo; enough, and eventually growing into his identity as a trans man. He and Maddie discuss their respective experiences being trans entertainers in the spotlight&ndash; including the lessons they&rsquo;ve learned both from within and outside of the community.&nbsp;
Also: The fluidity of labels; why Laith identifies as &ldquo;Afro-Caribbean&rdquo; rather than &ldquo;Latino&rdquo;; T4T relationships; how anti-intellectualism and transphobia feed off of each other; the importance of sexual health education; and a brief interlude on the US&rsquo;s imperial history.
And Maddie says this discussion is not over&hellip; maybe a part 2 in the New Year?
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by<a href="https://turtlerunent.com/"> Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.

Laith Ashley: PC is Doing Us a Disservice

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It's the season of GIVING! And so, in the spirit of the holidays, we’re giving you not just one but TWO episodes this week. This special bonus episode is with TS Madison’s longtime manager, the incredible Leggra Colón—and it's available exclusively on our audio platforms. 

Leggra is a KEY member of the TS Madison multiverse, the Capricorn energy to Maddie’s Libra brilliance, but today we’re digging into Leggra’s origin story. She’s been a high achiever since childhood. In this episode, Leggra talks the pivotal moments, mistakes, and learning opportunities that led her to where she is today. She also opens up about her cancer diagnosis and recovery, the decision to keep her diagnosis private, and how hearing the “C" Word changed her perspective.

We also get a behind the scenes look at Leggra and Maddie’s relationship– both professionally and as close friends– including some insight into what “The TS Madison Experience” had left on the cutting room floor. We’re getting the full story of how Maddie and Leggra met– sometimes you think you need a new car but what you really need is a new manager. 

Plus: Lessons Maddie and Leggra learned from their mamas; unconventional career paths; marriage and divorce; the Kama Sutra; fighting the hate between cis and trans Black women; societal disregard for aging women; and fighting back against bigotry coming from the White House.

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

It's the season of GIVING! And so, in the spirit of the holidays, we&rsquo;re giving you not just one but TWO episodes this week. This special bonus episode is with TS Madison&rsquo;s longtime manager, the incredible Leggra Col&oacute;n&mdash;and it's available exclusively on our audio platforms.&nbsp;
Leggra is a KEY member of the TS Madison multiverse, the Capricorn energy to Maddie&rsquo;s Libra brilliance, but today we&rsquo;re digging into Leggra&rsquo;s origin story. She&rsquo;s been a high achiever since childhood. In this episode, Leggra talks the pivotal moments, mistakes, and learning opportunities that led her to where she is today. She also opens up about her cancer diagnosis and recovery, the decision to keep her diagnosis private, and how hearing the &ldquo;C" Word changed her perspective.
We also get a behind the scenes look at Leggra and Maddie&rsquo;s relationship&ndash; both professionally and as close friends&ndash; including some insight into what &ldquo;The TS Madison Experience&rdquo; had left on the cutting room floor. We&rsquo;re getting the full story of how Maddie and Leggra met&ndash; sometimes you think you need a new car but what you really need is a new manager.&nbsp;
Plus: Lessons Maddie and Leggra learned from their mamas; unconventional career paths; marriage and divorce; the Kama Sutra; fighting the hate between cis and trans Black women; societal disregard for aging women; and fighting back against bigotry coming from the White House.
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by<a href="https://turtlerunent.com/"> Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.

Bonus Episode! Leggra Colón: We Were Meant to Meet

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Today, TS Madison sits down with restaurateur, author, and "Real Housewives of Atlanta" star Kelli Ferrell for one of the funniest, realest, and most triumphant conversations of the season. From running Nana’s Chicken & Waffles to rebuilding her life after a divorce that nearly cost her half a million dollars, Kelli keeps it all the way real about what it takes to lose everything — and build it back better.

What starts as a kiki about grits and mimosa mixes turns into a masterclass in faith, business, and self-worth. Madison and Kelli swap stories about men who steal (literally and spiritually), the art of leaving with nothing but your kids and your peace, and why every woman deserves a “narcissist moment” to brag on herself without apology.

Also: divorce as divine intervention, stolen money and spiritual payback, co-parenting, being a “thick queen” in a skinny world, shared experiences between cis and trans women, "competition" in relationships, what it means to "build the table," the Atlanta dating scene, the stigma around sex on the first date, bad lace-front wigs, and the long road from Nana’s kitchen to "Real Housewives of Atlanta" peach-holding glory.

Today, TS Madison sits down with restaurateur, author, and "Real Housewives of Atlanta"&nbsp;star&nbsp;Kelli Ferrell for one of the funniest, realest, and most triumphant conversations of the season. From running Nana&rsquo;s Chicken &amp; Waffles to rebuilding her life after a divorce that nearly cost her half a million dollars, Kelli keeps it all the way real about what it takes to lose everything &mdash; and build it back better.
What starts as a kiki about grits and mimosa mixes turns into a masterclass in faith, business, and self-worth. Madison and Kelli swap stories about men who steal (literally and spiritually), the art of leaving with nothing but your kids and your peace, and why every woman deserves a &ldquo;narcissist moment&rdquo; to brag on herself without apology.
Also: divorce as divine intervention, stolen money and spiritual payback, co-parenting, being a &ldquo;thick queen&rdquo; in a skinny world, shared experiences between cis and trans women, "competition" in relationships, what it means to "build the table," the Atlanta dating scene, the stigma around sex on the first date, bad lace-front wigs, and the long road from Nana&rsquo;s kitchen to "Real Housewives of Atlanta"&nbsp;peach-holding glory.

Kelli Ferrell: A Gaggle of Peaches

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Trailblazing filmmaker, writer, and creator Patrik-Ian Polk — yes, THE Patrik-Ian Polk, the mind behind the groundbreaking series "Noah’s Arc" — joins TS Madison for an inspiring, no-holds-barred conversation about Black queer legacy, representation, and refusing to be erased. For nearly three decades, Patrik has brought authentic Black queer stories to screens large and small. In this episode, he embraces his title as the “Father of Black Gay Cinema,” reflecting on everything from his Sundance-premiering directorial debut "Punks," to building "Noah’s Arc" on his own terms — and how betting on himself proved Black gay stories were never “niche,” just historically denied the space to exist on screen.

But Madison and Patrik don’t just retrace credits — they get into the real stuff: how "Punks"made waves but was still ignored by distributors, the exact moment that sparked "Noah’s Arc," the hard deadline Patrik set to make it happen by any means necessary, his decision to skip pitching it to Hollywood altogether, and the industry’s ongoing discomfort with fully romantic Black queer love stories. Patrik even reveals the worst creative experience of his career!

Also: Madison goes OFF on pearl-clutching over queer visibility, Patrik calls for transphobia to be banned, a reflection on the success of "Noah’s Arc: The Movie," whether or not Patrik is ready for a full series reboot, his dream of working with Tyler Perry, and why “I don’t know when, I don’t know how… but I KNOW” might as well be the Outlaws mission statement.

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Trailblazing filmmaker, writer, and creator Patrik-Ian Polk &mdash; yes, THE Patrik-Ian Polk, the mind behind the groundbreaking series "Noah&rsquo;s Arc" &mdash; joins TS Madison for an inspiring, no-holds-barred conversation about Black queer legacy, representation, and refusing to be erased. For nearly three decades, Patrik has brought authentic Black queer stories to screens large and small. In this episode, he embraces his title as the &ldquo;Father of Black Gay Cinema,&rdquo; reflecting on everything from his Sundance-premiering directorial debut&nbsp;"Punks,"&nbsp;to building "Noah&rsquo;s Arc" on his own terms &mdash; and how betting on himself proved Black gay stories were never &ldquo;niche,&rdquo; just historically denied the space to exist on screen.
But Madison and Patrik don&rsquo;t just retrace credits &mdash; they get into the real stuff: how "Punks" made waves but was still ignored by distributors, the exact moment that sparked "Noah&rsquo;s Arc," the hard deadline Patrik set to make it happen by any means necessary, his decision to skip pitching it to Hollywood altogether, and the industry&rsquo;s ongoing discomfort with fully romantic Black queer love stories. Patrik even reveals the worst creative experience of his career!
Also: Madison goes OFF on pearl-clutching over queer visibility, Patrik calls for transphobia to be banned, a reflection on the success of "Noah&rsquo;s Arc: The Movie," whether or not Patrik is ready for a full series reboot, his dream of working with Tyler Perry, and why &ldquo;I don&rsquo;t know when, I don&rsquo;t know how&hellip; but I KNOW&rdquo; might as well be the Outlaws mission statement.
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Patrik-Ian Polk: The Father of Black Gay Cinema

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Stylist-to-the-stars, creative visionary, and an inspiration in every way — Ty Hunter joins TS Madison for a can’t-miss conversation about faith, fashion, and the career pivot that changed everything. You may know Ty as Beyoncé’s longtime stylist, but years ago his life looked drastically different. He was making heart valves for a medical supply company in Austin, until a tragic wake up call had him reevaluating the trajectory of his life. Driven by a dream that he couldn’t ignore, Ty opens up about the moment God told him to “get down there to Houston.” What followed wasn’t just a whole new career... it was DESTINY.

Ty takes Maddie for a strut down the memory RUNWAY: working at Bebe (c’mon rhinestone T-shirts!), meeting and learning from Ms. Tina Knowles (our first-ever “Outlaws” guest), styling Destiny’s Child as they skyrocketed to superstardom, and ultimately joining Beyoncé when she went solo, life on tour, the Barack Obama question he’ll never forget, stepping away from styling at the height of his career, writing a memoir, dealing with industry rumors, and the full-circle return for Beyoncé’s “Cowboy Carter” tour.

Also: Ms. Tina’s motherly mentorship, finding answers through solitude, trying to date while chasing your dreams, the energy transfer that exists in relationships, entrepreneurship beyond glam, creative rebirth, intuition and spiritual guidance, the way Ty protects Beyoncé, and his take on what makes a truly exceptional stylist. 

Loving this episode? Read Ty Hunter's memoir, "Makeover from Within: Lessons in Hardship, Acceptance, and Self-Discovery." Also, revisit Madison's conversation with Ms. Tina Knowles here – or wherever you get your podcasts!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Stylist-to-the-stars, creative visionary, and an inspiration in every way &mdash; Ty Hunter joins TS Madison for a can&rsquo;t-miss conversation about faith, fashion, and the career pivot that changed everything. You may know Ty as Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s longtime stylist, but years ago his life looked drastically different. He was making heart valves for a medical supply company in Austin, until a tragic wake up call had him reevaluating the trajectory of his life. Driven by a dream that he couldn&rsquo;t ignore, Ty opens up about the moment God told him to &ldquo;get down there to Houston.&rdquo; What followed wasn&rsquo;t just a whole new career... it was DESTINY.
Ty takes Maddie for a strut down the memory RUNWAY: working at Bebe (c&rsquo;mon rhinestone T-shirts!), meeting and learning from Ms. Tina Knowles (our first-ever &ldquo;Outlaws&rdquo; guest), styling Destiny&rsquo;s Child as they skyrocketed to superstardom, and ultimately joining Beyonc&eacute; when she went solo, life on tour, the Barack Obama question he&rsquo;ll never forget, stepping away from styling at the height of his career, writing a memoir, dealing with industry rumors, and the full-circle return for Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Cowboy Carter&rdquo; tour.
Also: Ms. Tina&rsquo;s motherly mentorship, finding answers through solitude, trying to date while chasing your dreams, the energy transfer that exists in relationships, entrepreneurship beyond glam, creative rebirth, intuition and spiritual guidance, the way Ty protects Beyonc&eacute;, and his take on what makes a truly exceptional stylist.&nbsp;
Loving this episode? Read Ty Hunter's memoir, "Makeover from Within: Lessons in Hardship, Acceptance, and Self-Discovery." Also, revisit Madison's conversation with Ms. Tina Knowles <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/tt/podcast/tina-knowles-interview-your-mama-while-shes-here/id1812599204?i=1000708287629">here</a>&nbsp;&ndash; or wherever you get your podcasts!
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Ty Hunter: God Said, "Get Down There to Houston!"

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Drag Race legend, American Idol alum, singer-songwriter, TV starlet, future movie star, and f*cking Libra Adore Delano joins TS Madison for a conversation that’s raw, spiritual, and punk-rock real. From early fame and addiction to sobriety and self-discovery, Adore opens up about the moment she realized that Adore wasn’t just a drag persona — it was who she truly was and always had been.

They go deep on gender, drag, and identity; what it means to come out twice; and why belief — not beauty — is the real power. Madison and Adore talk therapy, manifestation, and the divine art of the vision board, transforming self-doubt into superstardom and pain into purpose.

Also: how American Idol happened, what TS Madison told Adore when they first met, RuPaul’s life-changing advice, healing from alcoholism, manifesting A24 roles, acting dreams, horror movies, trans visibility, dating a trans man, learning to fight back (literally), protecting your peace, and why visibility itself is activism.

Catch Adore's feature film acting debut in the queer horror film "HAG," premiering on Tubi on December 12th, 2025!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Drag Race legend, American Idol alum, singer-songwriter, TV starlet, future movie star, and f*cking Libra Adore Delano joins TS Madison for a conversation that&rsquo;s raw, spiritual, and punk-rock real. From early fame and addiction to sobriety and self-discovery, Adore opens up about the moment she realized that Adore wasn&rsquo;t just a drag persona &mdash; it was who she truly was and always had been.
They go deep on gender, drag, and identity; what it means to come out twice; and why belief &mdash; not beauty &mdash; is the real power. Madison and Adore talk therapy, manifestation, and the divine art of the vision board, transforming self-doubt into superstardom and pain into purpose.
Also:&nbsp;how American Idol happened, what TS Madison told Adore when they first met, RuPaul&rsquo;s life-changing advice, healing from alcoholism, manifesting A24 roles, acting dreams, horror movies, trans visibility, dating a trans man, learning to fight back (literally), protecting your peace, and why visibility itself is activism.
Catch Adore's feature film acting debut in the queer horror film "HAG," premiering on Tubi&nbsp;on December 12th, 2025!
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Adore Delano: Libras Unite!

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Thanksgiving’s all about family, so this week TS Madison is joined by an EXTRA special guest: her mother, Miss Mary!

To start off, Miss Mary delves into her spiritual journey, how she found Christ and continues to grow as a Christian even today. A lot of people call themselves Christians these days, but Miss Mary takes issue with those who preach with hate rather than love. She shares her own beliefs that God will meet you where you’re at, and that the bible is a tool not a weapon. And she credits not just God but also her daughter TS Madison in teaching her how to love unconditionally.

We’re getting an intimate look at Maddie and Miss Mary’s relationship– TS Madison might be an icon to the world, but to Miss Mary, that’s her baby! Miss Mary talks about what it was like raising her daughter and two sons, watching her daughter achieve stardom and what she learned in the process. Maddie reflects on her upbringing as well, and gets into her decision to leave home, what motivated that decision, and how she came back to her mama. 

Before you sit down for your turkey dinner, tune into “Outlaws” with TS Madison to remember what matters most.

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Thanksgiving&rsquo;s all about family, so this week TS Madison is joined by an EXTRA special guest: her mother, Miss Mary!
To start off, Miss Mary delves into her spiritual journey, how she found Christ and continues to grow as a Christian even today. A lot of people call themselves Christians these days, but Miss Mary takes issue with those who preach with hate rather than love. She shares her own beliefs that God will meet you where you&rsquo;re at, and that the bible is a tool not a weapon. And she credits not just God but also her daughter TS Madison in teaching her how to love unconditionally.
We&rsquo;re getting an intimate look at Maddie and Miss Mary&rsquo;s relationship&ndash; TS Madison might be an icon to the world, but to Miss Mary, that&rsquo;s her baby! Miss Mary talks about what it was like raising her daughter and two sons, watching her daughter achieve stardom and what she learned in the process. Maddie reflects on her upbringing as well, and gets into her decision to leave home, what motivated that decision, and how she came back to her mama.&nbsp;
Before you sit down for your turkey dinner, tune into &ldquo;Outlaws&rdquo; with TS Madison to remember what matters most.
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Miss Mary: Dingaling is Good... But It Ain't Better Than God!

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From BravoCon to the iHeart studio, supermodel, entrepreneur, and "Real Housewives of Atlanta" royalty Cynthia Bailey joins TS Madison for a hilarious, heartfelt conversation about beauty, aging, and the power of knowing your worth — finally.

Cynthia opens up about menopause, body changes, and her age-gap relationship with a European musician who keeps her heart young (and her passport stamped). She reflects on two marriages, countless reinventions, and the confidence that comes not from looks but from surviving everything life throws your way.

Also: body image after 50, why she didn’t marry Leon, becoming the first Black homecoming queen at her high school, getting discovered by Wilhelmina, GLP-1s and Weight Watchers real talk, boundaries, Miss Mary keeping TS grounded, matching energies, tequila fights and wild nights, long-distance love, Cynthia’s eras as model, TV personality, actress, and humanitarian, the gift and curse of being a Housewife, her old-school hustle and daily grind, two Essence covers, RuPaul’s unforgettable presence, brand deals, growing up Alabama-shy and becoming globally confident, writing a memoir, and why “soft-girl era” doesn’t mean soft-minded.

If you love our show, show your support by downloading, subscribing, and reviewing on audio-platforms, and liking, subscribing, hyping, and commenting on our YouTube channel!

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

From BravoCon to the iHeart studio, supermodel, entrepreneur, and "Real Housewives of Atlanta" royalty Cynthia Bailey&nbsp;joins TS Madison for a hilarious, heartfelt conversation about beauty, aging, and the power of knowing your worth &mdash; finally.
Cynthia opens up about menopause, body changes, and her age-gap relationship with a European musician who keeps her heart young (and her passport stamped). She reflects on two marriages, countless reinventions, and the confidence that comes not from looks but from surviving everything life throws your way.
Also:&nbsp;body image after 50, why she didn&rsquo;t marry Leon, becoming the first Black homecoming queen at her high school, getting discovered by Wilhelmina, GLP-1s and Weight Watchers real talk, boundaries, Miss Mary keeping TS grounded, matching energies, tequila fights and wild nights, long-distance love, Cynthia&rsquo;s eras as model, TV personality, actress, and humanitarian, the gift and curse of being a Housewife, her old-school hustle and daily grind, two&nbsp;Essence&nbsp;covers, RuPaul&rsquo;s unforgettable presence, brand deals, growing up Alabama-shy and becoming globally confident, writing a memoir, and why &ldquo;soft-girl era&rdquo; doesn&rsquo;t mean soft-minded.
If you love our show, show your support by downloading, subscribing, and reviewing on audio-platforms, and liking, subscribing, hyping, and commenting on our YouTube channel!
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Cynthia Bailey: I Didn't Know I Was Her

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Vegan icon, actress, and sunshine personified Tabitha Brown joins TS Madison for a conversation that’s part sermon, part business school, part family reunion. From praying for Wendy Williams to praying for her own peace, Tabitha shares the lessons that built an empire rooted in love, partnership, and purpose. In this episode, TS and Tab move from laughs to hallelujahs—swapping stories about hustle, healing, and how faith and fight can coexist in the same woman.

In this episode: that time Tab prayed for Wendy Williams, why (and how) to give ignorance grace, Tab’s five-year evolution from making Un-Tuna on Facebook Live to creating first vegan cooking competition on Food Network, recognizing misalignment even as your dreams come true, how Donna’s Recipe and her McCormick seasonings were born, social-media copycats, Maddie’s Facebook demonetization, future plans, and knowing when to log off and let God handle it. Also, Tab coaches Maddie on how to launch a proper merch store. Is there going to be "Outlaws" merch in our future?! 

Remember, if you love our show, be sure to subscribe and review on audio-platforms, and like, subscribe, hype, and comment on our YouTube channel! 

🎬 Loving this episode? Head to the cinema this week and catch Tabitha on the big screen in "Unexpected Christmas" — now playing in theatres! 

"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by Turtle Run Entertainment.

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from “RuPaul's Drag Race” to Beyoncé’s “Renaissance.” Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. 

Each week on “Outlaws,” Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Vegan icon, actress, and sunshine personified Tabitha Brown joins TS Madison for a conversation that&rsquo;s part sermon, part business school, part family reunion. From praying for Wendy Williams to praying for her own peace, Tabitha shares the lessons that built an empire rooted in love, partnership, and purpose. In this episode, TS and Tab move from laughs to hallelujahs&mdash;swapping stories about hustle, healing, and how faith and fight can coexist in the same woman.
In this episode: that time Tab prayed for Wendy Williams, why (and how) to give ignorance grace, Tab&rsquo;s five-year evolution from making Un-Tuna on Facebook Live to creating first vegan cooking competition on Food Network, recognizing misalignment even as your dreams come true, how Donna&rsquo;s Recipe and her McCormick seasonings were born, social-media copycats, Maddie&rsquo;s Facebook demonetization, future plans, and knowing when to log off and let God handle it. Also, Tab coaches Maddie on how to launch a proper merch store.&nbsp;Is there going to be "Outlaws" merch in our future?!&nbsp;
Remember, if you love our show, be sure to subscribe and review on audio-platforms, and like, subscribe, hype, and comment on our YouTube channel!&nbsp;
🎬 Loving this episode? Head to the cinema this week and catch Tabitha on the big screen in "Unexpected Christmas" &mdash; now playing in theatres!&nbsp;
"Outlaws" is hosted by TS Madison, and is part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, co-produced by&nbsp;<a href="https://www.turtlerunent.com">Turtle Run Entertainment</a>.
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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from &ldquo;RuPaul's Drag Race&rdquo; to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s &ldquo;Renaissance.&rdquo; Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming.&nbsp;
Each week on &ldquo;Outlaws,&rdquo; Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal.

Tabitha Brown: Find Your Way Back to Grace

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Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?! TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn’t just go viral — she became part of the culture, from "RuPaul's Drag Race" to Beyoncé’s "Renaissance." Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn’t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. Each week on "Outlaws," Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories — turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal. Some episodes will crack you up. Others may crack you open. Keep the tissues nearby, just in case. "Outlaws" is proud to be part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, in partnership with Turtle Run Entertainment.

Is it on? Is it on?? Honey, is this thing recording?!&nbsp;TS Madison broke the Internet with six seconds and a 22-inch weave. And she didn&rsquo;t just go viral &mdash; she became part of the culture, from "RuPaul's Drag Race" to Beyonc&eacute;&rsquo;s "Renaissance." Her superpower? Her voice. Her kryptonite? Doesn&rsquo;t exist. Her podcast? The one they never saw coming. Each week on "Outlaws," Madison sits down with living legends and rising stars who shed their armor and own their stories &mdash; turning side-eyes into sermons, pain into punchlines, and grief into galaxies. They speak when silence is safer. They dream when told to disappear. And they know what so many are taught to fear: that when you speak your truth, you open a portal. Some episodes will crack you up. Others may crack you open. Keep the tissues nearby, just in case. "Outlaws"&nbsp;is proud to be part of the Outspoken Network from iHeartPodcasts, in partnership with Turtle Run Entertainment.

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