‘Coalition of chaos’, ‘bread and butter’, ‘if I may’ - all politicians have phrases they like to deploy in interviews and media appearances to try and sway the public to their cause, or take control of the interview.

A new series from RNZ has taken a deep dive into the phrases and words used the most by Prime Minister Chris Hipkins, National Party leader Christopher Luxon, and former Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern when they are being grilled by the media.

The Interview journalists Guyon Espiner and Farah Hancock join Thomas to discuss what they learned from the data.