If On Purpose inspires you, Jay’s exclusive Genius workshops and meditations will take your life to the next level. Go to https://shetty.cc/OnPurposeGenius to learn more. 

The world has been forever changed by the simple question: What if? What if Leonardo Da Vinci never painted the Mona Lisa? What if Steve Jobs never started Apple? What if Jennifer Doudna never pursued gene editing? 

On this episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty, Jay speaks with acclaimed author and journalist, Walter Isaacson, about his new book, Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and the Future of the Human Race.

If On Purpose inspires you, Jay’s exclusive Genius workshops and meditations will take your life to the next level. Go to <a href="https://shetty.cc/OnPurposeGenius">https://shetty.cc/OnPurposeGenius</a> to learn more. 
The world has been forever changed by the simple question: What if? What if Leonardo Da Vinci never painted the Mona Lisa? What if Steve Jobs never started Apple? What if Jennifer Doudna never pursued gene editing? 
On this episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty, Jay speaks with acclaimed author and journalist, Walter Isaacson, about his new book, <a href="https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Code-Breaker/Walter-Isaacson/9781982115852">Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and the Future of the Human Race</a>.

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

If On Purpose inspires you, Jay’s exclusive Genius workshops and meditations will take your life to the next level. Go to https://shetty.cc/OnPurposeGenius to learn more. 

The world has been forever changed by the simple question: What if? What if Leonardo Da Vinci never painted the Mona Lisa? What if Steve Jobs never started Apple? What if Jennifer Doudna never pursued gene editing? 

On this episode of On Purpose with Jay Shetty, Jay speaks with acclaimed author and journalist, Walter Isaacson, about his new book, Code Breaker: Jennifer Doudna, Gene Editing, and the Future of the Human Race.

Walter Isaacson ON: The Importance of Living a Curiosity-Driven Life & How To Develop It

Today, Jay explores a truth most of us instinctively avoid: we no longer know how to be alone with our own thoughts. He reflects on how our constant need for stimulation, scrolling, watching, filling every empty second, is not just a habit, but a quiet escape from ourselves. What we often dismiss as “boredom” isn’t something to fix, but a signal, quietly guiding us toward clarity, deeper self-awareness, and inner peace.

Jay brings in modern neuroscience to explain why boredom is not empty at all. He introduces the concept of the Default Mode Network, the part of the brain responsible for self-reflection, creativity, empathy, and imagining the future. This system only activates when we stop consuming and allow our minds to wander. In a world engineered to keep us constantly distracted, we are gradually disconnecting from the very mechanism that helps us understand ourselves and generate our best ideas.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Stop Reaching for Your Phone Automatically

How to Turn Idle Moments Into Creative Breakthroughs

How to Activate Your Brain’s Default Mode Network

How to Build a Daily Practice of Doing Nothing

How to Break the Habit of Constant Stimulation

How to Create Space for Deep Thinking and Clarity

You don’t need to fill every moment to live a meaningful life. The pauses you’ve been avoiding may be the very spaces where clarity, peace, and creativity begin.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe 

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

00:33 Can Anybody Just Sit Still Anymore?

03:01 What is the Scientific Definition of Boredom?

12:33 The Persuasion Machines

16:09 The Ancient Art of Doing Nothing

18:07 #1: Understand What You're Doing

18:49 #2: The 3-Minute Hold

20:13 #3: Do One Boring Thing

21:14 #4: Get Bored on Purpose

Today, Jay explores a truth most of us instinctively avoid: we no longer know how to be alone with our own thoughts. He reflects on how our constant need for stimulation, scrolling, watching, filling every empty second, is not just a habit, but a quiet escape from ourselves. What we often dismiss as &ldquo;boredom&rdquo; isn&rsquo;t something to fix, but a signal, quietly guiding us toward clarity, deeper self-awareness, and inner peace.
Jay brings in modern neuroscience to explain why boredom is not empty at all. He introduces the concept of the Default Mode Network, the part of the brain responsible for self-reflection, creativity, empathy, and imagining the future. This system only activates when we stop consuming and allow our minds to wander. In a world engineered to keep us constantly distracted, we are gradually disconnecting from the very mechanism that helps us understand ourselves and generate our best ideas.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Stop Reaching for Your Phone Automatically
How to Turn Idle Moments Into Creative Breakthroughs
How to Activate Your Brain&rsquo;s Default Mode Network
How to Build a Daily Practice of Doing Nothing
How to Break the Habit of Constant Stimulation
How to Create Space for Deep Thinking and Clarity
You don&rsquo;t need to fill every moment to live a meaningful life. The pauses you&rsquo;ve been avoiding may be the very spaces where clarity, peace, and creativity begin.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a>&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
00:33 Can Anybody Just Sit Still Anymore?
03:01 What is the Scientific Definition of Boredom?
12:33 The Persuasion Machines
16:09 The Ancient Art of Doing Nothing
18:07 #1: Understand What You're Doing
18:49 #2: The 3-Minute Hold
20:13 #3: Do One Boring Thing
21:14 #4: Get Bored on Purpose

Can’t Sit Still Without Distraction? (Train Your Brain With THIS Daily Practice & Embrace Boredom!)

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Jay sits down with Bridget Bahl, entrepreneur and founder of the fashion brand The Bar, who has built a powerful community through her honesty about life, faith, and relationships. What begins as a conversation about success and ambition evolves into something far more personal, a journey through fear, uncertainty, and the quiet strength it takes to keep going when life feels out of your control. Bridget shares what it looks like to move from constantly striving for more to being forced to slow down, reflect, and rediscover what truly matters, not in theory, but in real time.

Jay and Bridget open up about the emotional layers we rarely talk about, the grief that can exist alongside gratitude, the pressure to stay strong, and the reality that healing is not always linear. After being diagnosed with breast cancer, Bridget began sharing her journey with honesty and resilience, using her platform to bring awareness, hope, and purpose to others. Her story reflects something deeply familiar, that we often do not realize how much we take for granted until life demands our full attention. Through her vulnerability, Bridget reminds us that even in the hardest moments, meaning can still be found in the people who show up, the perspective we gain, and the small shifts that change how we live each day.

In this episode, you'll learn:

How to Stay Strong in Uncertainty

How to Let Go of Control

How to Support Someone Through Difficult Times

How to Listen to Your Body Early

How to Hold Grief and Gratitude At the Same Time

How to Keep Faith in Life’s Hardest Moments

Whatever season you’re in right now, whether life feels overwhelming, uncertain, or just not how you imagined, this is your reminder that you’re stronger than you think. Even in the moments that feel heavy or unclear, there is still meaning being formed and growth happening beneath the surface. 

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

02:22 Where Her Journey Began

06:33 The Moment Everything Changed 

10:12 Why Early Detection Matters

17:15 The Reality of Living with Cancer 

22:16 “Why Is This Happening to Me?” 

24:14 Facing the First Chemotherapy Appointment

26:34 Learning to Be Softer with Yourself

28:24 Redefining Strength Through Pain

34:54 What Not to Say to Someone with Cancer

38:24 Choosing a Partner Who Shows Up In Sickness & Health

41:03 The Husband List

45:30 How Their Love Story Began

46:06 You’re Not Behind in Love

47:55 Choosing Joy, Even When It’s Hard

51:38 Rebuilding Confidence After Struggle

53:36 How to Keep Going When It’s Tough

57:25 Honest Conversations with Faith

58:14 Learning to Hold Grief and Gratitude

01:03:24 This Too Shall Pass

01:04:20 What’s the Best That Could Happen?

Episode Resources:

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/bridget/  

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@bridgezilla

Jay sits down with Bridget Bahl, entrepreneur and founder of the fashion brand The Bar, who has built a powerful community through her honesty about life, faith, and relationships. What begins as a conversation about success and ambition evolves into something far more personal, a journey through fear, uncertainty, and the quiet strength it takes to keep going when life feels out of your control. Bridget shares what it looks like to move from constantly striving for more to being forced to slow down, reflect, and rediscover what truly matters, not in theory, but in real time.
Jay and Bridget open up about the emotional layers we rarely talk about, the grief that can exist alongside gratitude, the pressure to stay strong, and the reality that healing is not always linear. After being diagnosed with breast cancer, Bridget began sharing her journey with honesty and resilience, using her platform to bring awareness, hope, and purpose to others. Her story reflects something deeply familiar, that we often do not realize how much we take for granted until life demands our full attention. Through her vulnerability, Bridget reminds us that even in the hardest moments, meaning can still be found in the people who show up, the perspective we gain, and the small shifts that change how we live each day.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Stay Strong in Uncertainty
How to Let Go of Control
How to Support Someone Through Difficult Times
How to Listen to Your Body Early
How to Hold Grief and Gratitude At the Same Time
How to Keep Faith in Life&rsquo;s Hardest Moments
Whatever season you&rsquo;re in right now, whether life feels overwhelming, uncertain, or just not how you imagined, this is your reminder that you&rsquo;re stronger than you think. Even in the moments that feel heavy or unclear, there is still meaning being formed and growth happening beneath the surface.&nbsp;
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
02:22 Where Her Journey Began
06:33 The Moment Everything Changed&nbsp;
10:12 Why Early Detection Matters
17:15 The Reality of Living with Cancer&nbsp;
22:16 &ldquo;Why Is This Happening to Me?&rdquo;&nbsp;
24:14 Facing the First Chemotherapy Appointment
26:34 Learning to Be Softer with Yourself
28:24 Redefining Strength Through Pain
34:54 What Not to Say to Someone with Cancer
38:24 Choosing a Partner Who Shows Up In Sickness &amp; Health
41:03 The Husband List
45:30 How Their Love Story Began
46:06 You&rsquo;re Not Behind in Love
47:55 Choosing Joy, Even When It&rsquo;s Hard
51:38 Rebuilding Confidence After Struggle
53:36 How to Keep Going When It&rsquo;s Tough
57:25 Honest Conversations with Faith
58:14 Learning to Hold Grief and Gratitude
01:03:24 This Too Shall Pass
01:04:20 What&rsquo;s the Best That Could Happen?
Episode Resources:
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/bridget/">https://www.instagram.com/bridget/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@bridgezilla">https://www.tiktok.com/@bridgezilla</a>

Bridget Bahl: The Diagnosis That Changed Everything (The Reality She Wasn’t Prepared For and the Perspective It Gave Her)

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We spend so much time waiting to feel ready, not realizing that confidence only comes after we begin.

Today, Jay sits down with Leila Hormozi to explore what truly drives success, not just in business but in becoming the person who can sustain it. What emerges is a powerful shift in perspective. Confidence is not something you chase, it is something you earn through competence. Leila shares candid stories from her early struggles with insecurity, rejection, and self-doubt, revealing that real growth begins the moment you stop waiting to feel ready and start taking action anyway. Together, they unpack a hard truth. The path to confidence is built through failure, humility, and the willingness to be seen as “bad” before becoming great.

The conversation moves beyond mindset into the mechanics of success, including discipline, leadership, and emotional resilience. Leila reframes discipline not as a personality trait, but as a system you design within your environment, making the right actions easier and the wrong ones harder. Leila also challenges the belief that strategy or market conditions determine success. Instead, she emphasizes that the real differentiator is your ability to manage your mind and emotions under pressure. Through stories of entrepreneurs who lost everything, not because of poor tactics, but because they could not stay grounded, she highlights that inner stability is the true foundation of long-term success.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Build Confidence Through Competence

How to Take Action Before You Feel Ready

How to Turn Rejection Into Growth

How to Stay Disciplined Using Simple Systems

How to Manage Your Emotions Under Pressure

How to Lean Into Discomfort

How to Create Consistency That Drives Results

How to Lead People Without Losing Trust

How to Build a Successful Business Without Losing Your Values

How to Focus on What Truly Moves You Forward

You don’t need to have everything figured out to move forward, you just need to be willing to start where you are. Growth isn’t about feeling confident every step of the way; it’s about showing up even when you’re unsure, uncomfortable, or afraid.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe 

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

05:00 What Actually Builds Confidence?

06:40 Stop Waiting to Feel Ready To Take Action

11:28 You Have to Be Bad Before You Get Good

14:41 Lean Into Fear and Discomfort

20:25 What’s Actually Blocking Your Success

26:00 Can You Handle the Pressure of Success?

35:00 Discipline Isn’t Willpower

43:20 Is Work-Life Balance Possible?

49:41 How to Find Purpose in Any Job

53:00 What It Really Means to Be a CEO

57:24 The Hiring Mistake Most People Make

01:04:00 What Makes You Stand Out Instantly

01:12:00 The Most Overrated Leadership Traits

01:14:13 Should People Fear or Respect You?

01:18:00 The Secret to Building High-Trust Teams

01:19:00 Carrot or Stick: What Actually Works?

01:24:00 How to Give Productive Feedback 

01:30:24 The Truth About Women and Independence

01:36:20 When Life Doesn’t Match Your Expectations

01:39:14 How to Handle Criticism Without Breaking

01:46:06 The Hidden Cost of Chasing Success

01:51:00 How to Rethink Your Relationship With Money

01:54:43 Leila on Final Five

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.acquisition.com/ 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@leilahormozi 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/leilahormozi/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/leilahormozi/ 

LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/leilahormozi 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@leilahormozi 

X | https://x.com/LeilaHormozi

We spend so much time waiting to feel ready, not realizing that confidence only comes after we begin.
Today, Jay sits down with Leila Hormozi to explore what truly drives success, not just in business but in becoming the person who can sustain it. What emerges is a powerful shift in perspective. Confidence is not something you chase, it is something you earn through competence. Leila shares candid stories from her early struggles with insecurity, rejection, and self-doubt, revealing that real growth begins the moment you stop waiting to feel ready and start taking action anyway. Together, they unpack a hard truth. The path to confidence is built through failure, humility, and the willingness to be seen as &ldquo;bad&rdquo; before becoming great.
The conversation moves beyond mindset into the mechanics of success, including discipline, leadership, and emotional resilience. Leila reframes discipline not as a personality trait, but as a system you design within your environment, making the right actions easier and the wrong ones harder. Leila also challenges the belief that strategy or market conditions determine success. Instead, she emphasizes that the real differentiator is your ability to manage your mind and emotions under pressure. Through stories of entrepreneurs who lost everything, not because of poor tactics, but because they could not stay grounded, she highlights that inner stability is the true foundation of long-term success.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Build Confidence Through Competence
How to Take Action Before You Feel Ready
How to Turn Rejection Into Growth
How to Stay Disciplined Using Simple Systems
How to Manage Your Emotions Under Pressure
How to Lean Into Discomfort
How to Create Consistency That Drives Results
How to Lead People Without Losing Trust
How to Build a Successful Business Without Losing Your Values
How to Focus on What Truly Moves You Forward
You don&rsquo;t need to have everything figured out to move forward, you just need to be willing to start where you are. Growth isn&rsquo;t about feeling confident every step of the way; it&rsquo;s about showing up even when you&rsquo;re unsure, uncomfortable, or afraid.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a>&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
05:00 What Actually Builds Confidence?
06:40 Stop Waiting to Feel Ready To Take Action
11:28 You Have to Be Bad Before You Get Good
14:41 Lean Into Fear and Discomfort
20:25 What&rsquo;s Actually Blocking Your Success
26:00 Can You Handle the Pressure of Success?
35:00 Discipline Isn&rsquo;t Willpower
43:20 Is Work-Life Balance Possible?
49:41 How to Find Purpose in Any Job
53:00 What It Really Means to Be a CEO
57:24 The Hiring Mistake Most People Make
01:04:00 What Makes You Stand Out Instantly
01:12:00 The Most Overrated Leadership Traits
01:14:13 Should People Fear or Respect You?
01:18:00 The Secret to Building High-Trust Teams
01:19:00 Carrot or Stick: What Actually Works?
01:24:00 How to Give Productive Feedback&nbsp;
01:30:24 The Truth About Women and Independence
01:36:20 When Life Doesn&rsquo;t Match Your Expectations
01:39:14 How to Handle Criticism Without Breaking
01:46:06 The Hidden Cost of Chasing Success
01:51:00 How to Rethink Your Relationship With Money
01:54:43 Leila on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.acquisition.com/">https://www.acquisition.com/</a>&nbsp;
YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@leilahormozi">https://www.youtube.com/@leilahormozi</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/leilahormozi/">https://www.facebook.com/leilahormozi/</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/leilahormozi/">https://www.instagram.com/leilahormozi/</a>&nbsp;
LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/leilahormozi">https://www.linkedin.com/in/leilahormozi</a>&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@leilahormozi">https://www.tiktok.com/@leilahormozi</a>&nbsp;
X | <a href="https://x.com/LeilaHormozi">https://x.com/LeilaHormozi</a>

Leila Hormozi: Feel Like You’re Working Hard but Not Getting Ahead? (Use THIS Simple Filter to Focus on What ACTUALLY Makes You Money)

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Walter Isaacson ON: The Importance of Living a Curiosity-Driven Life & How To Develop It

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