Are you an entrepreneur or have dreams of being one? Do you crave mental discipline that will set you apart from others? In this ON Purpose episode, Jay Shetty sits down with Patrick Bet David to share how you can take your life from the ordinary to extraordinary by practicing mental discipline and big-picture thinking.



Tune in to hear how to overcome the fear of the unknown and apply Bet David’s “Next Five Moves” strategy to launch you toward success. -

Text Jay Shetty: 310-997-4177



Train your mind for peace and purpose everyday. Grab a copy of Think Like A Monk, or listen to the audiobook now!  

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Are you an entrepreneur or have dreams of being one? Do you crave mental discipline that will set you apart from others? In this ON Purpose episode, Jay Shetty sits down with Patrick Bet David to share how you can take your life from the ordinary to extraordinary by practicing mental discipline and big-picture thinking.
 
Tune in to hear how to overcome the fear of the unknown and apply Bet David’s “Next Five Moves” strategy to launch you toward success. -
Text Jay Shetty: 310-997-4177
 
Train your mind for peace and purpose everyday. Grab a copy of Think Like A Monk, or listen to the audiobook now! 
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

Are you an entrepreneur or have dreams of being one? Do you crave mental discipline that will set you apart from others? In this ON Purpose episode, Jay Shetty sits down with Patrick Bet David to share how you can take your life from the ordinary to extraordinary by practicing mental discipline and big-picture thinking.

 

Tune in to hear how to overcome the fear of the unknown and apply Bet David’s “Next Five Moves” strategy to launch you toward success. -

Text Jay Shetty: 310-997-4177

 

Train your mind for peace and purpose everyday. Grab a copy of Think Like A Monk, or listen to the audiobook now!  

Book: https://books.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewFeature?id=1532264534&mt=11&ls=1&itscg=80048&itsct=js_httlam_book

Audiobook: https://books.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewFeature?id=1532264062&mt=3&ls=1&itscg=80048&itsct=js_httlam_audiobook

Patrick Bet David ON: Mental Discipline, Entrepreneurship & Big Picture Thinking

Why can it sometimes feel easier to connect with the outside world than with the person we love most?

Jay explores why love can feel stressful instead of safe, even when both people care deeply. Drawing from his Audible Original Messy Love: Difficult Conversations for Deeper Connection, he breaks down the everyday habits that quietly create distance: subtle disrespect, scorekeeping, unspoken resentment, mismatched conflict styles, and the fear of saying what we really feel. Through real sessions with three couples, he shows that what we often label as incompatibility is rarely about love itself, it’s about unresolved hurt, inherited fight patterns, and the deep need to feel respected, recognized, and taken seriously by the person we care about most.

Jay introduces five transformative principles that can help couples turn conflict into connection. From understanding how respect, not chemistry, is the true foundation of lasting love, to breaking the silent resentment of scorekeeping, he invites listeners to reflect on where imbalance, miscommunication, and unexpressed needs may be shaping their connection. He explains how our conflict styles, whether we vent, hide, or explode, are protective patterns learned over time, and why repair, not perfection, is the true marker of a healthy relationship.

In this episode, you'll learn:

How to Build Love on Respect, Not Just Chemistry

How to Stop Scorekeeping Before It Turns Into Resentment

How to Express Needs Without Blame

How to Identify and Improve Your Conflict Style

How to Repair After an Argument Instead of Withdrawing

How to Communicate Feelings Instead of Accusations

Healthy love isn’t built in grand gestures or perfect moments. It’s built when two people choose understanding over ego, consistency over intensity, and respect over being right. And knowing those choices are available to you at any moment.

Listen to Jay’s Messy Love: Difficult Conversations for Deeper Connection on Audible. Visit https://www.audible.com/pd/Messy-Love-Audiobook/B0G16Z76ZD

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:17 Difficult Conversations for Deeper Connection

02:24 Principle #1: Influence, Respect, and Recognition

14:50 Principle #2: Scorekeeping

20:15 Principle #3: Conflict Styles

25:50 Principle #4: The X, Y, Z Communication Method

33:14 Principle #5: Create a 30-Day Agreement

Why can it sometimes feel easier to connect with the outside world than with the person we love most?
Jay explores why love can feel stressful instead of safe, even when both people care deeply. Drawing from his Audible Original Messy Love: Difficult Conversations for Deeper Connection, he breaks down the everyday habits that quietly create distance: subtle disrespect, scorekeeping, unspoken resentment, mismatched conflict styles, and the fear of saying what we really feel. Through real sessions with three couples, he shows that what we often label as incompatibility is rarely about love itself, it&rsquo;s about unresolved hurt, inherited fight patterns, and the deep need to feel respected, recognized, and taken seriously by the person we care about most.
Jay introduces five transformative principles that can help couples turn conflict into connection. From understanding how respect, not chemistry, is the true foundation of lasting love, to breaking the silent resentment of scorekeeping, he invites listeners to reflect on where imbalance, miscommunication, and unexpressed needs may be shaping their connection. He explains how our conflict styles, whether we vent, hide, or explode, are protective patterns learned over time, and why repair, not perfection, is the true marker of a healthy relationship.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Build Love on Respect, Not Just Chemistry
How to Stop Scorekeeping Before It Turns Into Resentment
How to Express Needs Without Blame
How to Identify and Improve Your Conflict Style
How to Repair After an Argument Instead of Withdrawing
How to Communicate Feelings Instead of Accusations
Healthy love isn&rsquo;t built in grand gestures or perfect moments. It&rsquo;s built when two people choose understanding over ego, consistency over intensity, and respect over being right. And knowing those choices are available to you at any moment.
Listen to Jay&rsquo;s Messy Love: Difficult Conversations for Deeper Connection on Audible. Visit <a href="https://www.audible.com/pd/Messy-Love-Audiobook/B0G16Z76ZD">https://www.audible.com/pd/Messy-Love-Audiobook/B0G16Z76ZD</a>
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">here</a>.
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:17 Difficult Conversations for Deeper Connection
02:24 Principle #1: Influence, Respect, and Recognition
14:50 Principle #2: Scorekeeping
20:15 Principle #3: Conflict Styles
25:50 Principle #4: The X, Y, Z Communication Method
33:14 Principle #5: Create a 30-Day Agreement

Stop Trying to “Win” An Argument With Your Partner! (THIS Shift Will Turn Conflict into Communication)

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Have you ever pushed away the love you wanted most or clung to it so tightly that you lost yourself in the process?

Jay sits down with Attachment Style expert and creator of the Integrated Attachment Theory Thais Gibson to unpack one of the most powerful forces shaping our relationships. Together, they explore how our earliest emotional experiences quietly shape the way we love, communicate, and respond to conflict later in adulthood. Thais explains how anxious, avoidant, and fearful-avoidant patterns aren’t flaws or labels that define us, but protective mechanisms we once needed to feel safe.

Jay and Thais dive into the subtle ways attachment wounds show up in dating and long-term relationships, from overthinking a delayed text, to fearing commitment when things start to get too serious. Thais shares practical tools for recognizing your subconscious needs, reprogramming limiting beliefs, and communicating in ways that build security instead of sabotaging connection. Jay highlights how healing isn’t about changing who you are, it’s about understanding why you are the way you are, and consciously choosing new patterns that align with the love you truly desire. They emphasize that compatibility alone isn’t enough; emotional safety, self-awareness, and the willingness to grow are what sustain meaningful connection.

This is a reminder that love is not just about finding the right person, it’s about becoming the safest, most secure version of yourself. When we learn to meet our own unmet needs, we stop outsourcing our worth and start building relationships rooted in clarity, compassion, and conscious choice.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Identify Your Attachment Style

How to Stop Overthinking in Relationships

How to Communicate Your Emotional Needs Clearly

How to Reprogram Limiting Love Beliefs

How to Build Emotional Safety with a Partner

How to Respond Instead of React to Triggers

How to Set Boundaries Without Fear of Abandonment

Awareness is the turning point. The moment you begin to notice your triggers without judging them, communicate your needs without apologizing for them, and choose growth over fear, that’s the moment your relationships begin to change.

Interested in learning more about your own Attachment style, take the Attachment Style Quiz here: https://attachment.personaldevelopmentschool.com/quiz?utm_source=pr-js&utm_medium=public_relations&utm_campaign=attachment-quiz&utm_content=new-attachment-theory 

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:25 Understanding Your Attachment Style

17:13 How to Date with Self-Awareness

20:26 Healing Your Core Wounds

28:50 Can Insecure Attachment Build a Healthy Relationship?

30:05 The Five Pillars of Emotional Healing

32:10 Pillar One: Reprogramming Core Beliefs

34:29 Pillar Two: Practicing Self-Validation

38:37 Pillar Three: Regulating the Nervous System

43:50 Pillar Four: Conscious Communication

53:08 Pillar Five: Creating Healthy Boundaries

50:09 Are Your Needs Realistic or Trauma-Driven?

57:16 The 90-Day Reprogramming Process

59:09 When One Partner Resists Self-Work

01:02:18 How Do You Move Forward With an Unwilling Partner?

01:04:10 The Psychology of Love Bombing

01:05:12 How Do You Set Boundaries With a Narcissist?

01:09:04 Why Anxious and Secure Dynamics Can Struggle

01:10:52 When Power Struggles Begin

01:17:53 Are You Just Scared or Is It a True Mismatch?

01:20:58 When is it Time to Break Up?

01:25:27 Do You Ever Truly Move On?

01:27:17 No One Is Ever 100% Ready

01:31:27 The Invaluable Lessons Hidden in Hard Times

01:34:51 This or That: Relationship Edition

01:39:44 Thais on Final Five

Episode Resources:

Website | http://offer.personaldevelopmentschool.com/podcast/all-access-pass 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHQ4lSaKRap5HyrpitrTOhQ 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/thepersonaldevelopmentschool/ 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@thaisgibson 

The Thais Gibson Podcast

Have you ever pushed away the love you wanted most or clung to it so tightly that you lost yourself in the process?
Jay sits down with Attachment Style expert and creator of the Integrated Attachment Theory Thais Gibson to unpack one of the most powerful forces shaping our relationships. Together, they explore how our earliest emotional experiences quietly shape the way we love, communicate, and respond to conflict later in adulthood. Thais explains how anxious, avoidant, and fearful-avoidant patterns aren&rsquo;t flaws or labels that define us, but protective mechanisms we once needed to feel safe.
Jay and Thais dive into the subtle ways attachment wounds show up in dating and long-term relationships, from overthinking a delayed text, to fearing commitment when things start to get too serious. Thais shares practical tools for recognizing your subconscious needs, reprogramming limiting beliefs, and communicating in ways that build security instead of sabotaging connection. Jay highlights how healing isn&rsquo;t about changing who you are, it&rsquo;s about understanding why you are the way you are, and consciously choosing new patterns that align with the love you truly desire. They emphasize that compatibility alone isn&rsquo;t enough; emotional safety, self-awareness, and the willingness to grow are what sustain meaningful connection.
This is a reminder that love is not just about finding the right person, it&rsquo;s about becoming the safest, most secure version of yourself. When we learn to meet our own unmet needs, we stop outsourcing our worth and start building relationships rooted in clarity, compassion, and conscious choice.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Identify Your Attachment Style
How to Stop Overthinking in Relationships
How to Communicate Your Emotional Needs Clearly
How to Reprogram Limiting Love Beliefs
How to Build Emotional Safety with a Partner
How to Respond Instead of React to Triggers
How to Set Boundaries Without Fear of Abandonment
Awareness is the turning point. The moment you begin to notice your triggers without judging them, communicate your needs without apologizing for them, and choose growth over fear, that&rsquo;s the moment your relationships begin to change.
Interested in learning more about your own Attachment style, take the Attachment Style Quiz here: <a href="https://attachment.personaldevelopmentschool.com/quiz?utm_source=pr-js&amp;utm_medium=public_relations&amp;utm_campaign=attachment-quiz&amp;utm_content=new-attachment-theory">https://attachment.personaldevelopmentschool.com/quiz?utm_source=pr-js&amp;utm_medium=public_relations&amp;utm_campaign=attachment-quiz&amp;utm_content=new-attachment-theory</a>&nbsp;
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:25 Understanding Your Attachment Style
17:13 How to Date with Self-Awareness
20:26 Healing Your Core Wounds
28:50 Can Insecure Attachment Build a Healthy Relationship?
30:05 The Five Pillars of Emotional Healing
32:10 Pillar One: Reprogramming Core Beliefs
34:29 Pillar Two: Practicing Self-Validation
38:37 Pillar Three: Regulating the Nervous System
43:50 Pillar Four: Conscious Communication
53:08 Pillar Five: Creating Healthy Boundaries
50:09 Are Your Needs Realistic or Trauma-Driven?
57:16 The 90-Day Reprogramming Process
59:09 When One Partner Resists Self-Work
01:02:18 How Do You Move Forward With an Unwilling Partner?
01:04:10 The Psychology of Love Bombing
01:05:12 How Do You Set Boundaries With a Narcissist?
01:09:04 Why Anxious and Secure Dynamics Can Struggle
01:10:52 When Power Struggles Begin
01:17:53 Are You Just Scared or Is It a True Mismatch?
01:20:58 When is it Time to Break Up?
01:25:27 Do You Ever Truly Move On?
01:27:17 No One Is Ever 100% Ready
01:31:27 The Invaluable Lessons Hidden in Hard Times
01:34:51 This or That: Relationship Edition
01:39:44 Thais on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="http://offer.personaldevelopmentschool.com/podcast/all-access-pass">http://offer.personaldevelopmentschool.com/podcast/all-access-pass</a>&nbsp;
YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHQ4lSaKRap5HyrpitrTOhQ">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHQ4lSaKRap5HyrpitrTOhQ</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool/">https://www.facebook.com/ThePersonalDevelopmentSchool/</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/thepersonaldevelopmentschool/">https://www.instagram.com/thepersonaldevelopmentschool/</a>&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@thaisgibson">https://www.tiktok.com/@thaisgibson</a>&nbsp;
<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-thais-gibson-podcast/id1478580185">The Thais Gibson Podcast</a>

Relationship Expert Thais Gibson: Do You Keep Attracting The Same Emotionally Unavailable Partner? (Use THIS Attachment Reset To Break The Cycle And Choose Better Partners)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/8a84c00d-8aff-425f-bf5b-b3f50066638b/transcript

The real hardship of our time isn’t only the challenges we face, it’s that we rarely slow down enough to fully experience and process them.

Jay is joined by bestselling author and journalist Michael Pollan for a deeply thoughtful exploration of consciousness, attention, and what it truly means to be present. Known for reshaping how we think about food, nature, and the human mind, Michael shares why his work always begins with curiosity rather than certainty. Together, they unpack how perception shapes reality and why the most important questions in life aren’t meant to be solved quickly, but held with patience.

Jay and Michael dive into how modern life pulls us away from awareness, leaving many of us distracted, overstimulated, and disconnected from ourselves. Drawing from research on meditation, neuroscience, and psychedelic therapy, Michael explains how rigid thought patterns, rumination, and ego-driven narratives can keep us stuck. They discuss how practices that quiet the mind don’t erase our identity, but soften it, creating space for clarity, creativity, and deeper connection with the world around us.

In this invterview, you'll learn:

How to Stop Living on Autopilot

How to Train Your Attention in a Distracted World

How to Use Curiosity Instead of Certainty

How to Break Free from Mental Rumination

How to Quiet the Ego Without Losing Yourself

How to Interrupt Stuck Thought Patterns

Awareness isn’t something you have to earn or master, it’s something you already possess. Small moments of attention, pausing before reacting, listening more deeply, and learning to sit with your thoughts, can quietly reshape how you experience life.

Michael Pollan’s A World Appears is a sweeping exploration of consciousness, what it is, who has it, and what it reveals about the essence of being human. Get your copy here: https://michaelpollan.com/books/a-world-appears/

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. 

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:32 Why Great Thinkers Start With Questions

02:32 Is There Such a Thing as a Bad Question?

05:53 What is Consciousness?

07:55 Why Consciousness Matters in Daily Life

12:54 What Happens When You Put Your Phone Down

14:05 Building a Daily Meditation Practice

16:05 When Consciousness Transcends the Self

19:47 Is Everything Conscious?

25:46 What’s the Difference between the Mind and Consciousness?

31:16 Meditation and Psychedelics: The Overlap

33:36 Using Psychedelics With Intention

35:30 Is the Brain Creating Reality?

41:09 Breaking OCD Thought Loops

44:24 The Real Risks of Psychedelics

49:04 Why Psychedelics Can Help Break Addiction

51:23 How Altered States Change Our Fear of Death

53:54 Do Near-Death Experiences Change Science?

57:21 Redefining Consciousness in the AI Age

01:02:41 What Our Need for Constant Validation Says About Society 

01:05:06 What Makes Humans Different From Machines

01:10:38 Why Asking Better Questions Matters

01:12:17 Michael on Final Five

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/  

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher/ 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXjnpu6lK0HoUyOMh2ZBwhQ 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson  

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/justaskjefferson/  

X | https://x.com/jefferson_fishr 

LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffersonfisher/

The real hardship of our time isn&rsquo;t only the challenges we face, it&rsquo;s that we rarely slow down enough to fully experience and process them.
Jay is joined by bestselling author and journalist Michael Pollan for a deeply thoughtful exploration of consciousness, attention, and what it truly means to be present. Known for reshaping how we think about food, nature, and the human mind, Michael shares why his work always begins with curiosity rather than certainty. Together, they unpack how perception shapes reality and why the most important questions in life aren&rsquo;t meant to be solved quickly, but held with patience.
Jay and Michael dive into how modern life pulls us away from awareness, leaving many of us distracted, overstimulated, and disconnected from ourselves. Drawing from research on meditation, neuroscience, and psychedelic therapy, Michael explains how rigid thought patterns, rumination, and ego-driven narratives can keep us stuck. They discuss how practices that quiet the mind don&rsquo;t erase our identity, but soften it, creating space for clarity, creativity, and deeper connection with the world around us.
In this invterview, you'll learn:
How to Stop Living on Autopilot
How to Train Your Attention in a Distracted World
How to Use Curiosity Instead of Certainty
How to Break Free from Mental Rumination
How to Quiet the Ego Without Losing Yourself
How to Interrupt Stuck Thought Patterns
Awareness isn&rsquo;t something you have to earn or master, it&rsquo;s something you already possess. Small moments of attention, pausing before reacting, listening more deeply, and learning to sit with your thoughts, can quietly reshape how you experience life.
Michael Pollan&rsquo;s A World Appears is a sweeping exploration of consciousness, what it is, who has it, and what it reveals about the essence of being human. Get your copy here: <a href="https://michaelpollan.com/books/a-world-appears/">https://michaelpollan.com/books/a-world-appears/</a>
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">here</a>.&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:32 Why Great Thinkers Start With Questions
02:32 Is There Such a Thing as a Bad Question?
05:53 What is Consciousness?
07:55 Why Consciousness Matters in Daily Life
12:54 What Happens When You Put Your Phone Down
14:05 Building a Daily Meditation Practice
16:05 When Consciousness Transcends the Self
19:47 Is Everything Conscious?
25:46 What&rsquo;s the Difference between the Mind and Consciousness?
31:16 Meditation and Psychedelics: The Overlap
33:36 Using Psychedelics With Intention
35:30 Is the Brain Creating Reality?
41:09 Breaking OCD Thought Loops
44:24 The Real Risks of Psychedelics
49:04 Why Psychedelics Can Help Break Addiction
51:23 How Altered States Change Our Fear of Death
53:54 Do Near-Death Experiences Change Science?
57:21 Redefining Consciousness in the AI Age
01:02:41 What Our Need for Constant Validation Says About Society&nbsp;
01:05:06 What Makes Humans Different From Machines
01:10:38 Why Asking Better Questions Matters
01:12:17 Michael on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/">https://www.jeffersonfisher.com/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher/">https://www.instagram.com/jefferson_fisher/</a>&nbsp;
YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXjnpu6lK0HoUyOMh2ZBwhQ">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXjnpu6lK0HoUyOMh2ZBwhQ</a>&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson">https://www.tiktok.com/@justaskjefferson</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/justaskjefferson/">https://www.facebook.com/justaskjefferson/</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
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