On this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Marc Randolph. Marc is a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, investor and mentor. Marc was co-founder of Netflix, and CEO until his retirement from the company in 2003. 



Marc shares how to get started if you feel stuck, and why even the best ideas don’t really matter. You’ll also learn his best marriage advice and what to look for in a mentor. His approach to business and life will forever change your perspective on both. 

On this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Marc Randolph. Marc is a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, investor and mentor. Marc was co-founder of Netflix, and CEO until his retirement from the company in 2003. 
 
Marc shares how to get started if you feel stuck, and why even the best ideas don’t really matter. You’ll also learn his best marriage advice and what to look for in a mentor. His approach to business and life will forever change your perspective on both.

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

On this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Marc Randolph. Marc is a Silicon Valley entrepreneur, investor and mentor. Marc was co-founder of Netflix, and CEO until his retirement from the company in 2003. 

 

Marc shares how to get started if you feel stuck, and why even the best ideas don’t really matter. You’ll also learn his best marriage advice and what to look for in a mentor. His approach to business and life will forever change your perspective on both.

Marc Randolph: ON Co-Founding Netflix & Staying Happily Married for Over 30 Years

Today, Jay breaks down seven mindset shifts that have fundamentally changed how he approaches pain, relationships, purpose, and growth. This isn’t surface-level inspiration. It’s the kind of perspective that stays with you, reshaping how you think in hard moments and how you show up every single day.

Jay challenges the idea that clarity comes before action, showing instead that purpose is built through movement, experimentation, and courage. Most people don’t fail because they lack discipline. They fail because their environment quietly shapes their habits, energy, and identity over time. From the stories we tell ourselves to the relationships we choose, Jay reveals how our internal narrative drives everything, from resilience to self-worth.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Heal From the People Who Trigger You

How to Stop Waiting and Start Moving Forward

How to Build an Environment That Supports Growth

How to Recognize the Patterns Keeping You Stuck

How to Create Stronger Relationships Through Daily Habits

How to Practice Mindsets That Actually Change Your Life

The way you think shapes the way you live, and even the smallest shift in perspective can begin changing the direction of your life. You do not need to have everything figured out to move forward. You only need the courage to take one honest step today.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe 

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:20 #1: Pain Is Temporary, Don’t Let It Become Your Identity

04:57 #2: You Are Not Your Thoughts, You Are Your Response to Them

07:26 #3: The People Who Trigger You Are Your Greatest Teachers

11:29 #4: Clarity Comes From Action, Not Overthinking

14:44 #5: Your Environment Shapes Your Life More Than Motivation

18:59 #6: The Most Powerful Story You Tell Is the One About Yourself

22:12 #7: Real Love Is a Daily Choice, Not Just a Feeling

26:19 Mindsets Only Change Your Life When You Practice Them Daily

Today, Jay breaks down seven mindset shifts that have fundamentally changed how he approaches pain, relationships, purpose, and growth. This isn&rsquo;t surface-level inspiration. It&rsquo;s the kind of perspective that stays with you, reshaping how you think in hard moments and how you show up every single day.
Jay challenges the idea that clarity comes before action, showing instead that purpose is built through movement, experimentation, and courage. Most people don&rsquo;t fail because they lack discipline. They fail because their environment quietly shapes their habits, energy, and identity over time. From the stories we tell ourselves to the relationships we choose, Jay reveals how our internal narrative drives everything, from resilience to self-worth.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Heal From the People Who Trigger You
How to Stop Waiting and Start Moving Forward
How to Build an Environment That Supports Growth
How to Recognize the Patterns Keeping You Stuck
How to Create Stronger Relationships Through Daily Habits
How to Practice Mindsets That Actually Change Your Life
The way you think shapes the way you live, and even the smallest shift in perspective can begin changing the direction of your life. You do not need to have everything figured out to move forward. You only need the courage to take one honest step today.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a>&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:20 #1: Pain Is Temporary, Don&rsquo;t Let It Become Your Identity
04:57 #2: You Are Not Your Thoughts, You Are Your Response to Them
07:26 #3: The People Who Trigger You Are Your Greatest Teachers
11:29 #4: Clarity Comes From Action, Not Overthinking
14:44 #5: Your Environment Shapes Your Life More Than Motivation
18:59 #6: The Most Powerful Story You Tell Is the One About Yourself
22:12 #7: Real Love Is a Daily Choice, Not Just a Feeling
26:19 Mindsets Only Change Your Life When You Practice Them Daily

7 Mindset Shifts That ACTUALLY Work (Finally Change How You Think, React & Show Up)

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Today Jay sits down with one of the world’s most influential digital storytellers, Dhar Mann, for a raw conversation about failure, identity, and resilience. Dhar opens up about growing up feeling caught between two worlds, battling loneliness, depression, and self-doubt, and how those painful experiences ultimately shaped his purpose. Together, they explore how our deepest wounds often become the message we’re here to share, and why real healing begins when we stop hiding who we are.

Dhar also breaks down the mindset and systems that helped him turn his lowest moments into a global storytelling brand. He shares why success comes from repetition, failure, and emotional connection, not validation, and reveals the story behind the one video he almost didn’t post that changed everything.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Keep Going After Rejection

How to Find Confidence Through Consistency

How to Build a Purpose-Driven Brand

How to Stop Hiding Your Struggles

How to Pivot When Life Changes

How to Choose the Right Partner

How to Create Success That Lasts

Some of the most meaningful breakthroughs happen after seasons of rejection, loneliness, and uncertainty. Keep showing up, keep believing in your growth, and keep taking the next step forward even when no one else can see the vision yet.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

Check out Dhar’s new podcast, What Happens Next - https://www.youtube.com/@dharmannspodcast/featured



What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

03:01 The Hidden Cost of Childhood Pain

05:36 Growing Up Desperate to Belong

08:47 The Real Meaning of Belonging

11:17 The Hustle That Started It All

16:05 What Failure Teaches You That Success Never Will

18:57 Fear of Failing in Public

26:07 The 5-Step Formula for Success

27:25 Owning Your Story (Even When It’s Messy)

32:35 How to Make People Actually Trust You

41:42 The Systems That Actually Build Success

49:39 The Key To Connection

54:20 Turning Content Into Impact

55:52 The Moment Everything Fell Apart

01:06:12 Choosing the Wrong Partner Can Cost You Everything

01:10:39 What Love Teaches You That Success Can’t

01:14:44 Dhar on Final Five

01:18:52 The Story Behind What Happens Next?  

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.dharmann.com/ 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@dharmannspodcast/featured

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_hK9fOxyy_TM8FJGXIyG8Q 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/dharmannofficial/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/dhar.mann/ 

LinkedIn | https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmann 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@dhar.mann 

X | https://x.com/dharmann

Today Jay sits down with one of the world&rsquo;s most influential digital storytellers, Dhar Mann, for a raw conversation about failure, identity, and resilience. Dhar opens up about growing up feeling caught between two worlds, battling loneliness, depression, and self-doubt, and how those painful experiences ultimately shaped his purpose. Together, they explore how our deepest wounds often become the message we&rsquo;re here to share, and why real healing begins when we stop hiding who we are.
Dhar also breaks down the mindset and systems that helped him turn his lowest moments into a global storytelling brand. He shares why success comes from repetition, failure, and emotional connection, not validation, and reveals the story behind the one video he almost didn&rsquo;t post that changed everything.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Keep Going After Rejection
How to Find Confidence Through Consistency
How to Build a Purpose-Driven Brand
How to Stop Hiding Your Struggles
How to Pivot When Life Changes
How to Choose the Right Partner
How to Create Success That Lasts
Some of the most meaningful breakthroughs happen after seasons of rejection, loneliness, and uncertainty. Keep showing up, keep believing in your growth, and keep taking the next step forward even when no one else can see the vision yet.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp; Check out Dhar&rsquo;s new podcast, What Happens Next - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@dharmannspodcast/featured">https://www.youtube.com/@dharmannspodcast/featured</a> 
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
03:01 The Hidden Cost of Childhood Pain
05:36 Growing Up Desperate to Belong
08:47 The Real Meaning of Belonging
11:17 The Hustle That Started It All
16:05 What Failure Teaches You That Success Never Will
18:57 Fear of Failing in Public
26:07 The 5-Step Formula for Success
27:25 Owning Your Story (Even When It&rsquo;s Messy)
32:35 How to Make People Actually Trust You
41:42 The Systems That Actually Build Success
49:39 The Key To Connection
54:20 Turning Content Into Impact
55:52 The Moment Everything Fell Apart
01:06:12 Choosing the Wrong Partner Can Cost You Everything
01:10:39 What Love Teaches You That Success Can&rsquo;t
01:14:44 Dhar on Final Five
01:18:52 The Story Behind What Happens Next?&nbsp;&nbsp;
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.dharmann.com/">https://www.dharmann.com/</a>&nbsp; YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@dharmannspodcast/featured">https://www.youtube.com/@dharmannspodcast/featured</a> YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_hK9fOxyy_TM8FJGXIyG8Q">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_hK9fOxyy_TM8FJGXIyG8Q</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/dharmannofficial/">https://www.facebook.com/dharmannofficial/</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dhar.mann/">https://www.instagram.com/dhar.mann/</a>&nbsp;
LinkedIn | <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmann">https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmann</a>&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@dhar.mann">https://www.tiktok.com/@dhar.mann</a>&nbsp;
X | <a href="https://x.com/dharmann">https://x.com/dharmann</a>

Dhar Mann: Not Where You Want to Be Yet? (Follow THIS 5-Step Framework to Stop Overthinking and Finally Take Action)

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What if the hardest moments in your life weren’t there to break you, but were actually pointing you toward who you’re meant to be?

Today, Jay sits down with renowned psychologist, Columbia professor, and bestselling author Dr. Lisa Miller to explore the powerful intersection of science and spirituality. Together, they unpack one of the most transformative ideas of our time: that spirituality is not reserved for the religious or the enlightened, it is an innate human capacity wired into every one of us. Through groundbreaking neuroscience, Dr. Lisa reveals how our brains are biologically designed to perceive that we are loved, guided, and never truly alone. Jay and Lisa invite us into a new way of living, one where anxiety, heartbreak, disappointment, and uncertainty are no longer viewed as signs that we’ve lost our way, but as invitations into deeper spiritual awakening.

Throughout the episode, Jay and Lisa share profoundly personal reflections on life’s “red doors” and “yellow doors”, the moments when what we desperately wanted fell apart, only to lead us somewhere far more aligned, meaningful, and expansive than we could have imagined. Through intimate stories, spiritual practices, and powerful meditations, they explore how intuition, synchronicity, and inner knowing can guide us toward our true path when we finally learn to listen. Jay opens up about protecting his purpose, discovering his calling beyond societal expectations, and the courage it takes to trust the quiet voice within. Lisa beautifully reframes suffering not as punishment or failure, but as the very catalyst that awakens us to greater love, wisdom, and purpose. This episode is a reminder that some of the greatest breakthroughs in life begin with the moments that break us open.

In this episode you'll learn:

How to Listen to Your Inner Wisdom

How to Turn Pain Into Spiritual Growth

How to Recognize Signs the Universe Is Sending You

How to Feel Guided When Life Feels Uncertain

How to Stop Ignoring Your Intuition

How to Stay Spiritual in a Busy, Modern World

How to Strengthen Your Spiritual Awareness Daily

How to Navigate Depression Through a Spiritual Lens

Maybe the answers you’ve been searching for aren’t outside of you, but in the quiet voice you’ve been too busy, too hurt, or too afraid to trust. Life won’t always go as planned, but sometimes the detours, disappointments, and closed doors are leading you somewhere deeper than success, toward a life that feels aligned, meaningful, and true.

To grab a copy of Lisa’s latest book, The Awakened Brain: The New Science of Spirituality and Our Quest for an Inspired Life, visit https://www.amazon.com/Awakened-Brain-Science-Spirituality-Inspired/dp/198485562X 

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

00:58 You Were Never Meant to Walk Alone

03:14 Why This Generation Is Craving Spirituality

05:24 The Life-Changing Benefits of Spirituality

06:11 The Hidden Link Between Spirituality and Depression

08:32 What Does it Mean To Be Spiritual?

10:46 The Shift That Makes Life Feel Inspired Again

17:05 When Life Stops Being a Plan and Becomes an Adventure

20:07 The Part of You You’ve Been Ignoring

21:19 The Missing Piece in Mental Health

22:23 The Two Ways You Actually Know Something

25:04 Why Your Purpose Isn’t Something You Find

29:09 How to Finally Hear Your Inner Voice

36:10 What It Feels Like to Touch Something Higher

40:51 Anxiety As A Catalyst 

43:52 What If Nothing in Your Life Is Random?

46:52 Learning to Trust Yourself on a Deeper Level

51:32 The Unexpected Path That Leads to Love

56:21 The Habit That’s Making You More Judgmental

57:10 Different Beliefs, One Aligned Relationship

01:02:53 The Subtle Sign You’re With the Wrong Person

01:04:59 The Truth About Money and Meaning

01:05:55 The Mistake That Keeps Spiritual People Broke

01:07:16 Why You Feel Stuck (And How to Get Back Into Flow)

01:10:20 How to Actually Ask for Guidance

01:13:06 The Real Source of Energy, Peace, and Clarity

01:14:15 The Awareness You Were Born With

01:16:16 What Happens When Kids Lose Their Intuition

01:18:08 Why Your Home Shapes Your Spiritual Life

01:21:35 Spirituality vs. Religion: What’s the Difference?

01:24:30 Why a Strong Spiritual Core Changes Everything

01:27:29 Lisa on Final Five 

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.lisamillerphd.com/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/dr.lisamiller/

What if the hardest moments in your life weren&rsquo;t there to break you, but were actually pointing you toward who you&rsquo;re meant to be?
Today, Jay sits down with renowned psychologist, Columbia professor, and bestselling author Dr. Lisa Miller to explore the powerful intersection of science and spirituality. Together, they unpack one of the most transformative ideas of our time: that spirituality is not reserved for the religious or the enlightened, it is an innate human capacity wired into every one of us. Through groundbreaking neuroscience, Dr. Lisa reveals how our brains are biologically designed to perceive that we are loved, guided, and never truly alone. Jay and Lisa invite us into a new way of living, one where anxiety, heartbreak, disappointment, and uncertainty are no longer viewed as signs that we&rsquo;ve lost our way, but as invitations into deeper spiritual awakening.
Throughout the episode, Jay and Lisa share profoundly personal reflections on life&rsquo;s &ldquo;red doors&rdquo; and &ldquo;yellow doors&rdquo;, the moments when what we desperately wanted fell apart, only to lead us somewhere far more aligned, meaningful, and expansive than we could have imagined. Through intimate stories, spiritual practices, and powerful meditations, they explore how intuition, synchronicity, and inner knowing can guide us toward our true path when we finally learn to listen. Jay opens up about protecting his purpose, discovering his calling beyond societal expectations, and the courage it takes to trust the quiet voice within. Lisa beautifully reframes suffering not as punishment or failure, but as the very catalyst that awakens us to greater love, wisdom, and purpose. This episode is a reminder that some of the greatest breakthroughs in life begin with the moments that break us open.
In this episode you'll learn:
How to Listen to Your Inner Wisdom
How to Turn Pain Into Spiritual Growth
How to Recognize Signs the Universe Is Sending You
How to Feel Guided When Life Feels Uncertain
How to Stop Ignoring Your Intuition
How to Stay Spiritual in a Busy, Modern World
How to Strengthen Your Spiritual Awareness Daily
How to Navigate Depression Through a Spiritual Lens
Maybe the answers you&rsquo;ve been searching for aren&rsquo;t outside of you, but in the quiet voice you&rsquo;ve been too busy, too hurt, or too afraid to trust. Life won&rsquo;t always go as planned, but sometimes the detours, disappointments, and closed doors are leading you somewhere deeper than success, toward a life that feels aligned, meaningful, and true.
To grab a copy of Lisa&rsquo;s latest book, The Awakened Brain: The New Science of Spirituality and Our Quest for an Inspired Life, visit <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Awakened-Brain-Science-Spirituality-Inspired/dp/198485562X">https://www.amazon.com/Awakened-Brain-Science-Spirituality-Inspired/dp/198485562X</a>&nbsp;
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
00:58 You Were Never Meant to Walk Alone
03:14 Why This Generation Is Craving Spirituality
05:24 The Life-Changing Benefits of Spirituality
06:11 The Hidden Link Between Spirituality and Depression
08:32 What Does it Mean To Be Spiritual?
10:46 The Shift That Makes Life Feel Inspired Again
17:05 When Life Stops Being a Plan and Becomes an Adventure
20:07 The Part of You You&rsquo;ve Been Ignoring
21:19 The Missing Piece in Mental Health
22:23 The Two Ways You Actually Know Something
25:04 Why Your Purpose Isn&rsquo;t Something You Find
29:09 How to Finally Hear Your Inner Voice
36:10 What It Feels Like to Touch Something Higher
40:51 Anxiety As A Catalyst&nbsp;
43:52 What If Nothing in Your Life Is Random?
46:52 Learning to Trust Yourself on a Deeper Level
51:32 The Unexpected Path That Leads to Love
56:21 The Habit That&rsquo;s Making You More Judgmental
57:10 Different Beliefs, One Aligned Relationship
01:02:53 The Subtle Sign You&rsquo;re With the Wrong Person
01:04:59 The Truth About Money and Meaning
01:05:55 The Mistake That Keeps Spiritual People Broke
01:07:16 Why You Feel Stuck (And How to Get Back Into Flow)
01:10:20 How to Actually Ask for Guidance
01:13:06 The Real Source of Energy, Peace, and Clarity
01:14:15 The Awareness You Were Born With
01:16:16 What Happens When Kids Lose Their Intuition
01:18:08 Why Your Home Shapes Your Spiritual Life
01:21:35 Spirituality vs. Religion: What&rsquo;s the Difference?
01:24:30 Why a Strong Spiritual Core Changes Everything
01:27:29 Lisa on Final Five&nbsp;
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.lisamillerphd.com/">https://www.lisamillerphd.com/</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/dr.lisamiller/">https://www.instagram.com/dr.lisamiller/</a>

Dr. Lisa Miller: Feeling Lost, Stuck or Anxious? (Use THIS Spiritual Framework to Finally Move Forward With Clarity)

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Marc Randolph: ON Co-Founding Netflix & Staying Happily Married for Over 30 Years

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