On this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Laurie Santos. Laurie is most known for her Yale course “Psychology and the Good Life”. 



We discussed how our minds are sucky, and lie to us constantly. Laurie reminds us that external accolades will never bring long-term happiness, and that strong social connections are what we should be aiming for. 

On this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Laurie Santos. Laurie is most known for her Yale course “Psychology and the Good Life”. 
 
We discussed how our minds are sucky, and lie to us constantly. Laurie reminds us that external accolades will never bring long-term happiness, and that strong social connections are what we should be aiming for.

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

On this episode of On Purpose, I sat down with Laurie Santos. Laurie is most known for her Yale course “Psychology and the Good Life”. 

 

We discussed how our minds are sucky, and lie to us constantly. Laurie reminds us that external accolades will never bring long-term happiness, and that strong social connections are what we should be aiming for.

Laurie Santos: ON Teaching The Most Popular Class at Yale University

Today, Jay sits down with Benny Blanco, Dave Burd, and Kristin Batalucco for a first-of-its-kind conversation - three best friends building something together in real time. They talk about what that really looks like: how friendship changes when work gets involved, how marriage fits into ambition, where insecurity still shows up, and how messy it can be to create with people you genuinely love. Dave and Kristin tell the story of meeting at a bowling alley and how they almost got in their own way at the beginning. Benny opens up about what it was like to chase success for years and what shifted when he realized it wasn’t giving him what he thought it would. It’s funny, and honest, and gives you a real sense of who they are with each other, not just as collaborators, but as friends figuring life out together.

With Jay's guidance they open up about commitment anxiety, the courage it takes to be emotionally direct, and the power of choosing your partner not playing games, not waiting to be chosen, but stepping forward with clarity. Kristen shares what it means to battle self-doubt while stepping into the public eye. Dave opens up about perfectionism and the tension between ambition and contentment. Benny reflects on how success once held him in a chokehold and how love reshaped his priorities. Together, they reveal that the healthiest relationships aren’t built on avoiding conflict, but on being able to argue passionately and return to love just as quickly.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Be Honest About What You Want in Love

How to Stop Playing Dating Games

How to Turn Conflict Into Deeper Connection

How to Support Your Partner’s Ambition Without Competing

How to Work With Friends Without Ruining the Friendship

How to Fall in Love With New Versions of Your Partner

The strongest connections aren’t built by people who never argue, they’re built by people who know how to come back to each other after they do. Keep choosing openness. Keep choosing courage. Keep choosing each other. 

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:03 How Their Friendship Began

07:05 Dave and Kristin’s Love Story

11:37 From Dating to Marriage

18:39 When Friendship Grows With Marriage

20:19 Getting Married a Month Apart

28:05 Loving Every Version of Each Other

30:35 Launching a Show Together

35:12 The Loneliness Epidemic 

39:07 Working With Family and Friends

42:13 How They Make Big Decisions

45:27 Pre-Show Nerves and Bathroom Confessions

48:18 Do They Believe in Astrology?

51:10 Friends Don’t Keep Secrets

01:13:28 Separating Work From Your Relationship

01:20:00 Do You Talk About Me When I Leave the Room?

01:23:37 If I Died, Would You Still Hang Out?

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.friendskeepsecretspodcast.com/ 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/@friendskeepsecrets 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/FriendsKeepSecrets 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/friendskeepsecrets  

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@friendskeepsecrets 

X | https://x.com/FKSpodcast

Today, Jay sits down with Benny Blanco, Dave Burd, and Kristin Batalucco for a first-of-its-kind conversation - three best friends building something together in real time. They talk about what that really looks like: how friendship changes when work gets involved, how marriage fits into ambition, where insecurity still shows up, and how messy it can be to create with people you genuinely love. Dave and Kristin tell the story of meeting at a bowling alley and how they almost got in their own way at the beginning. Benny opens up about what it was like to chase success for years and what shifted when he realized it wasn&rsquo;t giving him what he thought it would. It&rsquo;s funny, and honest, and gives you a real sense of who they are with each other, not just as collaborators, but as friends figuring life out together.
With Jay's guidance they open up about commitment anxiety, the courage it takes to be emotionally direct, and the power of choosing your partner not playing games, not waiting to be chosen, but stepping forward with clarity. Kristen shares what it means to battle self-doubt while stepping into the public eye. Dave opens up about perfectionism and the tension between ambition and contentment. Benny reflects on how success once held him in a chokehold and how love reshaped his priorities. Together, they reveal that the healthiest relationships aren&rsquo;t built on avoiding conflict, but on being able to argue passionately and return to love just as quickly.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Be Honest About What You Want in Love
How to Stop Playing Dating Games
How to Turn Conflict Into Deeper Connection
How to Support Your Partner&rsquo;s Ambition Without Competing
How to Work With Friends Without Ruining the Friendship
How to Fall in Love With New Versions of Your Partner
The strongest connections aren&rsquo;t built by people who never argue, they&rsquo;re built by people who know how to come back to each other after they do. Keep choosing openness. Keep choosing courage. Keep choosing each other.&nbsp;
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:03 How Their Friendship Began
07:05 Dave and Kristin&rsquo;s Love Story
11:37 From Dating to Marriage
18:39 When Friendship Grows With Marriage
20:19 Getting Married a Month Apart
28:05 Loving Every Version of Each Other
30:35 Launching a Show Together
35:12 The Loneliness Epidemic&nbsp;
39:07 Working With Family and Friends
42:13 How They Make Big Decisions
45:27 Pre-Show Nerves and Bathroom Confessions
48:18 Do They Believe in Astrology?
51:10 Friends Don&rsquo;t Keep Secrets
01:13:28 Separating Work From Your Relationship
01:20:00 Do You Talk About Me When I Leave the Room?
01:23:37 If I Died, Would You Still Hang Out?
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.friendskeepsecretspodcast.com/">https://www.friendskeepsecretspodcast.com/</a>&nbsp;
YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@friendskeepsecrets">https://www.youtube.com/@friendskeepsecrets</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/FriendsKeepSecrets">https://www.facebook.com/FriendsKeepSecrets</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/friendskeepsecrets">https://www.instagram.com/friendskeepsecrets</a>&nbsp;&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@friendskeepsecrets">https://www.tiktok.com/@friendskeepsecrets</a>&nbsp;
X | <a href="https://x.com/FKSpodcast">https://x.com/FKSpodcast</a>

BENNY BLANCO, DAVE BURD & KRISTIN BATALUCCO: Friends Keep Secrets… Or Do They? (Friendship, Weddings, Love)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/a6c260de-9e69-4438-8bbd-b4030024ca38/transcript

You can achieve everything you set out to and still feel empty. So what actually makes a truly successful life?

Jay sits down with global country superstar Luke Combs for an honest conversation about life beyond the sold-out stadiums and awards. Luke shares what it’s really been like navigating success while still trying to stay grounded and feel like himself. He shares what it was like growing up with OCD, the intrusive thoughts that once controlled his days, and the quiet battles he faced long before fame.

Luke also reflects on love, marriage, and fatherhood and how those roles mean more to him than any chart position ever could. He talks candidly about missing the birth of his son while on tour, the guilt that followed, and the ongoing effort to show up as the best husband and dad he can be. Jay and Luke explore the tension so many of us feel between chasing ambition and protecting what matters most, asking the question: What does success really mean if you’re not present for the people you love?

Luke speaks about money, fame, and gratitude with humility, admitting that while financial success makes life easier, it can’t buy the feeling of a perfect day with your family or the peace of knowing you’re living in alignment with your values.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Stay Grounded When Success Changes Your Life

How to Manage Intrusive Thoughts Without Letting Them Control You

How to Be Present for Your Family While Chasing Big Dreams

How to Strengthen Your Marriage Through Growth and Challenge

How to Support Your Mental Health Without Shame

How to Give Back When You’ve Been Given More

How to Stay True to Who You Are as Your World Expands

We all wrestle with doubt, guilt, fear, and the quiet pressure to be more than we think we are. But growth doesn’t come from pretending those struggles aren’t there, it comes from facing them with honesty and compassion.

Luke Combs’ The Way I Am is an honest reflection on identity, love, and personal growth, a grounded collection of songs that explore what it means to show up as your true self. Get your copy here: https://twia.lukecombs.com

📷 Courtesy of David Bergman

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe  

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:05 Staying Grounded in the Face of Fame

03:34 The Life He Never Imagined

06:28 Finding the Calling That Changed Everything

07:45 Growing Up with Undiagnosed OCD

10:23 Inside the Battle with Intrusive Thoughts

17:26 When You Don’t Know Who You Are Yet

20:37 The Work Ethic That Shaped Him

24:27 The Hustle Before the Breakthrough

30:19 Making Music That Truly Connects

32:21 The Quiet Fears of Fatherhood

40:15 What Does It Mean to Be Truly Rich?

46:28 Why Giving Back Matters

51:48 Showing Up for Fans on Your Hardest Days

58:48 The Unexpected Way He Met His Wife

01:03:04 Was It Love at First Sight?

01:07:12 When You Stop Needing All the Answers

01:12:08 The Power of Being Deeply Understood

01:17:16 Why Avoidance Makes It Worse

01:18:02 Stepping Back and Coming Back Stronger

01:25:55 The "Everyday Guy" Test

01:32:10 Finish This Sentence...

01:38:41 Luke on Final Five 

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.lukecombs.com/home/ 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOSIXyYdT93OzpRnAuWaKjQ 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/LukeCombs/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/lukecombs 

TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@lukecombs 

X | https://www.tiktok.com/@lukecombs

You can achieve everything you set out to and still feel empty. So what actually makes a truly successful life?
Jay sits down with global country superstar Luke Combs for an honest conversation about life beyond the sold-out stadiums and awards. Luke shares what it&rsquo;s really been like navigating success while still trying to stay grounded and feel like himself. He shares what it was like growing up with OCD, the intrusive thoughts that once controlled his days, and the quiet battles he faced long before fame.
Luke also reflects on love, marriage, and fatherhood and how those roles mean more to him than any chart position ever could. He talks candidly about missing the birth of his son while on tour, the guilt that followed, and the ongoing effort to show up as the best husband and dad he can be. Jay and Luke explore the tension so many of us feel between chasing ambition and protecting what matters most, asking the question: What does success really mean if you&rsquo;re not present for the people you love?
Luke speaks about money, fame, and gratitude with humility, admitting that while financial success makes life easier, it can&rsquo;t buy the feeling of a perfect day with your family or the peace of knowing you&rsquo;re living in alignment with your values.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Stay Grounded When Success Changes Your Life
How to Manage Intrusive Thoughts Without Letting Them Control You
How to Be Present for Your Family While Chasing Big Dreams
How to Strengthen Your Marriage Through Growth and Challenge
How to Support Your Mental Health Without Shame
How to Give Back When You&rsquo;ve Been Given More
How to Stay True to Who You Are as Your World Expands
We all wrestle with doubt, guilt, fear, and the quiet pressure to be more than we think we are. But growth doesn&rsquo;t come from pretending those struggles aren&rsquo;t there, it comes from facing them with honesty and compassion.
Luke Combs&rsquo; The Way I Am is an honest reflection on identity, love, and personal growth, a grounded collection of songs that explore what it means to show up as your true self. Get your copy here: <a href="https://twia.lukecombs.com">https://twia.lukecombs.com</a>
📷 Courtesy of David Bergman
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:05 Staying Grounded in the Face of Fame
03:34 The Life He Never Imagined
06:28 Finding the Calling That Changed Everything
07:45 Growing Up with Undiagnosed OCD
10:23 Inside the Battle with Intrusive Thoughts
17:26 When You Don&rsquo;t Know Who You Are Yet
20:37 The Work Ethic That Shaped Him
24:27 The Hustle Before the Breakthrough
30:19 Making Music That Truly Connects
32:21 The Quiet Fears of Fatherhood
40:15 What Does It Mean to Be Truly Rich?
46:28 Why Giving Back Matters
51:48 Showing Up for Fans on Your Hardest Days
58:48 The Unexpected Way He Met His Wife
01:03:04 Was It Love at First Sight?
01:07:12 When You Stop Needing All the Answers
01:12:08 The Power of Being Deeply Understood
01:17:16 Why Avoidance Makes It Worse
01:18:02 Stepping Back and Coming Back Stronger
01:25:55 The "Everyday Guy" Test
01:32:10 Finish This Sentence...
01:38:41 Luke on Final Five&nbsp;
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.lukecombs.com/home/">https://www.lukecombs.com/home/</a>&nbsp;
YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOSIXyYdT93OzpRnAuWaKjQ">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOSIXyYdT93OzpRnAuWaKjQ</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/LukeCombs/">https://www.facebook.com/LukeCombs/</a>&nbsp;
Instagram | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/lukecombs">https://www.instagram.com/lukecombs</a>&nbsp;
TikTok | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lukecombs">https://www.tiktok.com/@lukecombs</a>&nbsp;
X | <a href="https://www.tiktok.com/@lukecombs">https://www.tiktok.com/@lukecombs</a>

LUKE COMBS: The Man Behind The Success (Marriage, Fatherhood & Life With OCD)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/e9949602-f597-48f3-a471-b4010063eb6d/transcript

What if the real reason you feel stuck isn’t because you’ve failed but because you’ve been living on autopilot for too long? 

Jay breaks down the small, everyday habits that quietly keep us stuck — our tendency to choose what’s comfortable, the way we assume we have more time than we do, and how often we tell ourselves we’ll start “later.” He explains why trying new things makes life feel fuller and more memorable — and how doing the same thing over and over can make months or even years feel like they flew by. And he reminds us that while comfort feels good in the moment, meaning is built slowly — and that’s what actually stays with you.

Jay breaks down the hidden forces that keep us stuck: our brain’s love of comfort, our illusion that we “have time,” and the dangerous promise of “later.” He explains how novelty makes life feel expansive, while living on autopilot compresses our memories and years into a blur. He challenges the addiction to comfort, reminding us that meaning compounds slowly while pleasure fades quickly. Most importantly, he emphasizes that we don’t become our intentions, we become our patterns. Nearly half of our daily behaviors are automatic, which means the life we’re building is shaped less by what we dream about and more by what we repeatedly practice.

In this episode, you'll learn:

How to Stop Living on Autopilot

How to Use Time with Intention

How to Build Better Daily Habits

How to Stop Waiting for “Later”

How to Create a Life You Actually Chose 

Clarity grows with courage. Start where you are. Use what you have. Choose what matters today. And trust that when you live on purpose, even the smallest steps can change the direction of your entire life.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro
00:10 Are You Quietly Wasting Your Life?

05:55 #1: Time Isn't What You Think

08:21 #2: Comfort is the Most Expensive Drug

12:29 #3: You Become What You Repeat

15:06 #4: The Illusion of Later

17:27 #5: Fear Often Disguises as Logic

19:49 The Best Way to Stop Wasting Your Life

What if the real reason you feel stuck isn&rsquo;t because you&rsquo;ve failed but because you&rsquo;ve been living on autopilot for too long?&nbsp;
Jay breaks down the small, everyday habits that quietly keep us stuck &mdash; our tendency to choose what&rsquo;s comfortable, the way we assume we have more time than we do, and how often we tell ourselves we&rsquo;ll start &ldquo;later.&rdquo; He explains why trying new things makes life feel fuller and more memorable &mdash; and how doing the same thing over and over can make months or even years feel like they flew by. And he reminds us that while comfort feels good in the moment, meaning is built slowly &mdash; and that&rsquo;s what actually stays with you.
Jay breaks down the hidden forces that keep us stuck: our brain&rsquo;s love of comfort, our illusion that we &ldquo;have time,&rdquo; and the dangerous promise of &ldquo;later.&rdquo; He explains how novelty makes life feel expansive, while living on autopilot compresses our memories and years into a blur. He challenges the addiction to comfort, reminding us that meaning compounds slowly while pleasure fades quickly. Most importantly, he emphasizes that we don&rsquo;t become our intentions, we become our patterns. Nearly half of our daily behaviors are automatic, which means the life we&rsquo;re building is shaped less by what we dream about and more by what we repeatedly practice.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Stop Living on Autopilot
How to Use Time with Intention
How to Build Better Daily Habits
How to Stop Waiting for &ldquo;Later&rdquo;
How to Create a Life You Actually Chose&nbsp;
Clarity grows with courage. Start where you are. Use what you have. Choose what matters today. And trust that when you live on purpose, even the smallest steps can change the direction of your entire life.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">here</a>.&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro 00:10 Are You Quietly Wasting Your Life?
05:55 #1: Time Isn't What You Think
08:21 #2: Comfort is the Most Expensive Drug
12:29 #3: You Become What You Repeat
15:06 #4: The Illusion of Later
17:27 #5: Fear Often Disguises as Logic
19:49 The Best Way to Stop Wasting Your Life

Don't Waste Your Life (Use THIS Daily Shift To Build a Life That ACTUALLY Feels Meaningful)

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/e73c998e-6e60-432f-8610-ae210140c5b1/clips/4fe6aa63-d17e-4d86-a26f-b3fe00632e15/transcript

Laurie Santos: ON Teaching The Most Popular Class at Yale University

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