Jocko Willink (@jockowillink) joins Jay Shetty to talk about extreme ownership and discipline, switching from a competition-based to a collaborative culture, building trust even in stressful situations, and mastering your self-discipline. 

He is a retired naval officer who served in the Navy SEALs and an author of several books including Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. He also co-hosts Jocko Podcast that discusses discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships, and everyday life. 

What We Discuss with Jocko:
00:00 Intro
02:08 The most difficult thing to go through
02:57 How do you process a difficult situation and be ready to go through the experience
06:07 What you go through is your present, nothing else will matter
08:18 Are you born a leader or did experience make you one?
13:44 Working through procrastination and overthinking
18:01 Lessons learned from joining the Navy Seals
20:14 Turning a competitive and comparison based culture to a collaborative culture
26:37 Principles and methods to build trust in high stress situations
29:53 The biggest leadership mistakes and the key takeaways  
33:20 Rather than beating yourself up, practice extreme ownership
36:34 Taking criticisms from someone you don’t respect
38:54 Your ego against the decentralized command strategy
43:07 When people are struggling with self discipline, where do you start?  
47:06 Start self discipline by waking up earlier in the morning
49:24 Life lessons learned after leaving the military
53:20 Jocko on Final Five

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Episode Resources:
Jocko Willink | Twitter
Jocko Willink | Instagram
Jocko Willink | Podcast
Jocko Willink | Books

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Jocko Willink (<a href="https://twitter.com/jockowillink">@jockowillink</a>) joins Jay Shetty to talk about extreme ownership and discipline, switching from a competition-based to a collaborative culture, building trust even in stressful situations, and mastering your self-discipline. 
He is a retired naval officer who served in the Navy SEALs and an author of several books including Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. He also co-hosts Jocko Podcast that discusses discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships, and everyday life. 
What We Discuss with Jocko:
<ul>
<li>00:00 Intro</li>
<li>02:08 The most difficult thing to go through</li>
<li>02:57 How do you process a difficult situation and be ready to go through the experience</li>
<li>06:07 What you go through is your present, nothing else will matter</li>
<li>08:18 Are you born a leader or did experience make you one?</li>
<li>13:44 Working through procrastination and overthinking</li>
<li>18:01 Lessons learned from joining the Navy Seals</li>
<li>20:14 Turning a competitive and comparison based culture to a collaborative culture</li>
<li>26:37 Principles and methods to build trust in high stress situations</li>
<li>29:53 The biggest leadership mistakes and the key takeaways </li>
<li>33:20 Rather than beating yourself up, practice extreme ownership </li>
<li>36:34 Taking criticisms from someone you don’t respect</li>
<li>38:54 Your ego against the decentralized command strategy</li>
<li>43:07 When people are struggling with self discipline, where do you start? </li>
<li>47:06 Start self discipline by waking up earlier in the morning</li>
<li>49:24 Life lessons learned after leaving the military</li>
<li>53:20 Jocko on Final Five</li>
</ul>
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Episode Resources:
<ul>
<li>Jocko Willink | <a href="https://twitter.com/jockowillink">Twitter</a></li>
<li>Jocko Willink | <a href="https://www.instagram.com/jockowillink/">Instagram</a></li>
<li>Jocko Willink | <a href="https://jockopodcast.com/">Podcast</a></li>
<li>Jocko Willink | <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Jocko-Willink/e/B00ZY7MWW8%3Fref=dbs_a_mng_rwt_scns_share">Books</a></li>
</ul>
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.

I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace.
I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

On Purpose with Jay Shetty

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

My name is Jay Shetty, and my purpose is to make wisdom go viral. I’m fortunate to have fascinating conversations with the most insightful people in the world, and on my podcast, I’m sharing those conversations with you. New episodes Mondays and Fridays. Please rate and review the podcast if you enjoy it. Live life today ON PURPOSE.

Jocko Willink (@jockowillink) joins Jay Shetty to talk about extreme ownership and discipline, switching from a competition-based to a collaborative culture, building trust even in stressful situations, and mastering your self-discipline. 

He is a retired naval officer who served in the Navy SEALs and an author of several books including Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win. He also co-hosts Jocko Podcast that discusses discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships, and everyday life. 

What We Discuss with Jocko:
00:00 Intro
02:08 The most difficult thing to go through
02:57 How do you process a difficult situation and be ready to go through the experience
06:07 What you go through is your present, nothing else will matter
08:18 Are you born a leader or did experience make you one?
13:44 Working through procrastination and overthinking
18:01 Lessons learned from joining the Navy Seals
20:14 Turning a competitive and comparison based culture to a collaborative culture
26:37 Principles and methods to build trust in high stress situations
29:53 The biggest leadership mistakes and the key takeaways  
33:20 Rather than beating yourself up, practice extreme ownership 
36:34 Taking criticisms from someone you don’t respect
38:54 Your ego against the decentralized command strategy
43:07 When people are struggling with self discipline, where do you start?  
47:06 Start self discipline by waking up earlier in the morning
49:24 Life lessons learned after leaving the military
53:20 Jocko on Final Five

Like this show? Please leave us a review here - even one sentence helps! Post a screenshot of you listening on Instagram & tag us so we can thank you personally!

Episode Resources:
Jocko Willink | Twitter
Jocko Willink | Instagram
Jocko Willink | Podcast
Jocko Willink | Books

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Jocko Willink ON: Leading Like a Navy Seal & Taking Extreme Ownership of Every Problem in Your Life

If a breakup has ever left you feeling physically sick, emotionally lost, and not feeling like yourself, nothing is wrong with you. You’re grieving.

Today, Jay speaks directly to anyone navigating the quiet devastation of heartbreak, reminding them that nothing is “wrong” with them for feeling the way they do. He explains that breakups don’t just hurt emotionally, they activate the same neural pathways as physical pain and withdrawal. What you’re experiencing isn’t weakness or failure; it’s grief. Jay reframes the end of a relationship not simply as losing a person, but as losing a future you imagined, the routines your nervous system depended on, and the version of yourself that existed within that relationship.

Jay walks us through the five stages of breakup grief, showing how numbness is a form of protection, why the mind gets stuck in rumination after loss, and how anger can signal the return of self-respect. Rather than rushing to “move on,” he encourages simple practices like building small routines, writing down obsessive thoughts, setting boundaries, and resisting the highlight reel your mind creates that makes you only remember the good. The stages aren’t a straight line, but a map that helps you move through uncertainty with more grace and self-compassion.

In this episode, you'll learn:

How to Rebuild Your Routine After a Breakup

How to Break the Cycle of Rumination

How to Express Anger in a Healthy Way

How to Set Boundaries That Protect Your Healing

How to Move Through Sadness Without Rushing It

How to Create Meaning After Loss

Be gentle with yourself in this season. Lean on the people who show up for you. Rebuild your routines slowly. One day, this chapter will no longer be the center of your story, it will be the turning point that makes you wiser, stronger, and more secure in who you are.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe here.

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

02:19 Biggest Mistake Made During a Break Up

02:34 You’re Actually Experiencing Grief 

07:40 Stage #1: Shock and Denial

10:12 2 Ways to Overcome the Shock

12:58 Stage #2: Bargaining and Obsession

17:45 Stage #3: Anger and Protest

21:49 Stage #4: Sadness and Depression

24:33 Stage #5: Acceptance and Meaning

26:24 This is How You Heal

If a breakup has ever left you feeling physically sick, emotionally lost, and not feeling like yourself, nothing is wrong with you. You&rsquo;re grieving.
Today, Jay speaks directly to anyone navigating the quiet devastation of heartbreak, reminding them that nothing is &ldquo;wrong&rdquo; with them for feeling the way they do. He explains that breakups don&rsquo;t just hurt emotionally, they activate the same neural pathways as physical pain and withdrawal. What you&rsquo;re experiencing isn&rsquo;t weakness or failure; it&rsquo;s grief. Jay reframes the end of a relationship not simply as losing a person, but as losing a future you imagined, the routines your nervous system depended on, and the version of yourself that existed within that relationship.
Jay walks us through the five stages of breakup grief, showing how numbness is a form of protection, why the mind gets stuck in rumination after loss, and how anger can signal the return of self-respect. Rather than rushing to &ldquo;move on,&rdquo; he encourages simple practices like building small routines, writing down obsessive thoughts, setting boundaries, and resisting the highlight reel your mind creates that makes you only remember the good. The stages aren&rsquo;t a straight line, but a map that helps you move through uncertainty with more grace and self-compassion.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Rebuild Your Routine After a Breakup
How to Break the Cycle of Rumination
How to Express Anger in a Healthy Way
How to Set Boundaries That Protect Your Healing
How to Move Through Sadness Without Rushing It
How to Create Meaning After Loss
Be gentle with yourself in this season. Lean on the people who show up for you. Rebuild your routines slowly. One day, this chapter will no longer be the center of your story, it will be the turning point that makes you wiser, stronger, and more secure in who you are.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
Join over 750,000 people to receive my most transformative wisdom directly in your inbox every single week with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">here</a>.
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
02:19 Biggest Mistake Made During a Break Up
02:34 You&rsquo;re Actually Experiencing Grief&nbsp;
07:40 Stage #1: Shock and Denial
10:12 2 Ways to Overcome the Shock
12:58 Stage #2: Bargaining and Obsession
17:45 Stage #3: Anger and Protest
21:49 Stage #4: Sadness and Depression
24:33 Stage #5: Acceptance and Meaning
26:24 This is How You Heal

If You’re Going Through a Breakup, Listen To This

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For many women, the real challenge isn’t just unexplained health problems, it’s being heard when they seek help.

Jay sits down with Dr. Thaïs Aliabadi, or "Dr. A", to unpack a silent crisis affecting millions of women around the world: undiagnosed PCOS and endometriosis. This isn’t just a discussion about fertility, but a masterclass on hormones, inflammation, mental health, and the painful reality of medical gaslighting. PCOS, a condition shaped by insulin resistance, hormonal imbalance, chronic inflammation, and neurological disruption, is often overlooked, leaving women struggling with anxiety, depression, weight gain, irregular periods, and infertility without answers. Dr. A shares how insulin resistance acts as the “first domino,” triggering a domino effect that impacts everything from ovulation to mood, and emphasizes that true healing requires addressing all four pillars, not just masking symptoms with birth control.

Dr. A challenges the outdated belief that painful periods are “normal,” explaining that severe pain, painful sex, chronic bloating, bladder symptoms, and bowel discomfort are signs something deeper may be wrong. She reveals that diagnosis takes an average of 9–11 years, and that many women are told their pain is psychological before they’re ever taken seriously.

Through both science and lived clinical experience, she makes it clear: when inflammation and hormones are out of balance, mental health suffers too. Anxiety, depression, brain fog, and eating disorders are not personal failings, they are often physiological signals that something deeper is happening in the body.

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Recognize the Signs of PCOS Early

How to Reduce Insulin Resistance Naturally

How to Tell if Your Period Pain Is “Normal”

How to Protect Your Fertility in Your 20s and 30s

How to Balance Hormones Beyond Birth Control

How to Spot Hidden Symptoms of Endometriosis

How to Lower Inflammation Through Lifestyle Changes

If there’s one thing to take away from this conversation, it’s this: your body is not working against you, it’s communicating with you. Pain is not weakness. It is a signal and you deserve to have those signals taken seriously.

To learn more about Dr. A’s advocacy on women’s health, check out: https://www.shemdpodcast.com/ 

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

02:58 Are We Facing a Fertility Crisis?

03:58 What Is PCOS?

07:13 Why PCOS Often Goes Undiagnosed

09:15 The Impact of Insulin Resistance

15:06 Making PCOS Patients Insulin-Sensitive

19:37 The Nutritional Effects of GLP-1 Medications

22:14 High Androgens and Chronic Inflammation

25:39 How Hormonal Imbalances Affect the Brain

29:25 Why Birth Control Alone Isn’t Enough

31:23 How to Know If You Have PCOS

35:01 Painful Periods Are Not Normal

36:47 What Is Endometriosis?

46:07 The Most Effective Treatment Approach for Endometriosis

49:20 The Risks of Ignoring Endometriosis

53:09 How to Use Birth Control Strategically

56:04 What to Do If Egg Freezing Isn’t an Option

57:53 The Link Between Endometriosis and Leaky Gut

01:00:33 Potential IVF Complications Explained

01:04:38 A Scientific Approach to Infertility

01:10:01 What to Do If You’re Not Getting Pregnant

Episode Resources:

Website: https://ovii.com/ 

Website: https://www.draliabadi.com/ 

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrej0PO97bg8GRMogtcKbbA 

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ThaisAliabadiMd 

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drthaisaliabadi/ 

For many women, the real challenge isn&rsquo;t just unexplained health problems, it&rsquo;s being heard when they seek help.
Jay sits down with Dr. Tha&iuml;s Aliabadi, or "Dr. A", to unpack a silent crisis affecting millions of women around the world: undiagnosed PCOS and endometriosis. This isn&rsquo;t just a discussion about fertility, but a masterclass on hormones, inflammation, mental health, and the painful reality of medical gaslighting. PCOS, a condition shaped by insulin resistance, hormonal imbalance, chronic inflammation, and neurological disruption, is often overlooked, leaving women struggling with anxiety, depression, weight gain, irregular periods, and infertility without answers. Dr. A shares how insulin resistance acts as the &ldquo;first domino,&rdquo; triggering a domino effect that impacts everything from ovulation to mood, and emphasizes that true healing requires addressing all four pillars, not just masking symptoms with birth control.
Dr. A challenges the outdated belief that painful periods are &ldquo;normal,&rdquo; explaining that severe pain, painful sex, chronic bloating, bladder symptoms, and bowel discomfort are signs something deeper may be wrong. She reveals that diagnosis takes an average of 9&ndash;11 years, and that many women are told their pain is psychological before they&rsquo;re ever taken seriously.
Through both science and lived clinical experience, she makes it clear: when inflammation and hormones are out of balance, mental health suffers too. Anxiety, depression, brain fog, and eating disorders are not personal failings, they are often physiological signals that something deeper is happening in the body.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Recognize the Signs of PCOS Early
How to Reduce Insulin Resistance Naturally
How to Tell if Your Period Pain Is &ldquo;Normal&rdquo;
How to Protect Your Fertility in Your 20s and 30s
How to Balance Hormones Beyond Birth Control
How to Spot Hidden Symptoms of Endometriosis
How to Lower Inflammation Through Lifestyle Changes
If there&rsquo;s one thing to take away from this conversation, it&rsquo;s this: your body is not working against you, it&rsquo;s communicating with you. Pain is not weakness. It is a signal and you deserve to have those signals taken seriously.
To learn more about Dr. A&rsquo;s advocacy on women&rsquo;s health, check out: <a href="https://www.shemdpodcast.com/">https://www.shemdpodcast.com/</a>&nbsp;
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here: <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe</a> &nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
02:58 Are We Facing a Fertility Crisis?
03:58 What Is PCOS?
07:13 Why PCOS Often Goes Undiagnosed
09:15 The Impact of Insulin Resistance
15:06 Making PCOS Patients Insulin-Sensitive
19:37 The Nutritional Effects of GLP-1 Medications
22:14 High Androgens and Chronic Inflammation
25:39 How Hormonal Imbalances Affect the Brain
29:25 Why Birth Control Alone Isn&rsquo;t Enough
31:23 How to Know If You Have PCOS
35:01 Painful Periods Are Not Normal
36:47 What Is Endometriosis?
46:07 The Most Effective Treatment Approach for Endometriosis
49:20 The Risks of Ignoring Endometriosis
53:09 How to Use Birth Control Strategically
56:04 What to Do If Egg Freezing Isn&rsquo;t an Option
57:53 The Link Between Endometriosis and Leaky Gut
01:00:33 Potential IVF Complications Explained
01:04:38 A Scientific Approach to Infertility
01:10:01 What to Do If You&rsquo;re Not Getting Pregnant
Episode Resources:
Website: <a href="https://ovii.com/">https://ovii.com/</a>&nbsp;
Website: <a href="https://www.draliabadi.com/">https://www.draliabadi.com/</a>&nbsp;
YouTube: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrej0PO97bg8GRMogtcKbbA">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrej0PO97bg8GRMogtcKbbA</a>&nbsp;
Facebook: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/ThaisAliabadiMd">https://www.facebook.com/ThaisAliabadiMd</a>&nbsp;
Instagram: <a href="https://www.instagram.com/drthaisaliabadi/">https://www.instagram.com/drthaisaliabadi/</a>&nbsp;

WORLD’S TOP OBGYN Dr. Aliabadi: The #1 Hormone Problem Affecting Millions of Women (And The 4 Changes That Can Reverse It)

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Today, Jay sits down with cultural icon Hilary Duff for a raw and honest conversation about  growth, identity, and the quiet courage it takes to evolve in public. Having grown up alongside an entire generation, Hilary reflects on what it means to return to music after more than a decade with her sixth studio album, Luck or Something. She opens up about shedding politeness in favor of truth, embracing maturity without losing the joy of her past, and finally feeling rooted in who she is, not just as an artist, but as a woman, a mother, a partner, and a daughter.

Jay and Hilary explore the hidden weight of fame, the loss of anonymity at a young age, and the resilience required to stay grounded in an industry that constantly defines you before you can define yourself. Hilary speaks vulnerably about navigating eating disorders, divorce, co-parenting, estrangement with family, and the reality of loving people through complicated relationships. Through it all, she shares how motherhood reshaped her priorities, how love taught her to accept stability over chaos, and how creativity became a necessary way of reconnecting with herself. Hilary’s reflections reveal a powerful truth: what the world often calls luck is usually years of quiet strength, hard choices, and inner work. 

In this interview, you'll learn:

How to Trust Your Intuition Over “Luck”

How to Grow Without Rejecting Your Past

How to Accept Healthy Love (Even When It Feels Unfamiliar)

How to Break Family Patterns Without Losing Compassion

How to Balance Motherhood and Personal Ambition

How to Hold Joy and Pain at the Same Time

How to Reinvent Yourself Without Losing Who You Are

You are allowed to choose steadiness over chaos, truth over politeness, and peace over performance. Growth isn’t always loud, sometimes it’s simply deciding you don’t want to repeat the same pattern again.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

JAY’S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX

Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe here. 

Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast 

What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:04 The Joy of Being Celebrated

02:46 Choosing Truth Over Politeness

05:15 What’s a Childhood Memory That Keeps You Grounded?

06:56 The Truth About Growing Up in the Public Eye

11:38 Learning to Feel at Home in Your Own Skin

14:22 Where Real Confidence Comes From

19:08 Opening Your Heart to Love Again

21:28 Understanding the Weight of Marriage

25:03 Deciding to Fully Commit

26:24 Trusting Your Intuition

27:28 Owning the Work Behind Your Success

30:36 The Burden of Being the Family Peacemaker

36:18 Navigating Divorce with Intention

38:26 Sharing Your Story on Your Terms

43:50 Holding Joy and Hardship at the Same Time

46:44 Healing and Connecting Through Music

51:49 The Hilary Duff Renaissance 

54:50 Staying Attuned to Your Children’s Needs

01:00:59 Building Confidence as a Parent

01:02:26 How Did You Name Your Kids?

01:04:27 Disney-Era “Would You Rather”

01:08:42 Hilary on Final Five 

Episode Resources:

Website | https://www.hilaryduff.com/ 

YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRmCrFvCPomTqjzwoF9MGw 

Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/HilaryDuff/ 

Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/hilaryduff/ 

TikTok | https://x.com/hilaryduff 

X | https://x.com/hilaryduff

Today, Jay sits down with cultural icon Hilary Duff for a raw and honest conversation about&nbsp; growth, identity, and the quiet courage it takes to evolve in public. Having grown up alongside an entire generation, Hilary reflects on what it means to return to music after more than a decade with her sixth studio album, Luck or Something. She opens up about shedding politeness in favor of truth, embracing maturity without losing the joy of her past, and finally feeling rooted in who she is, not just as an artist, but as a woman, a mother, a partner, and a daughter.
Jay and Hilary explore the hidden weight of fame, the loss of anonymity at a young age, and the resilience required to stay grounded in an industry that constantly defines you before you can define yourself. Hilary speaks vulnerably about navigating eating disorders, divorce, co-parenting, estrangement with family, and the reality of loving people through complicated relationships. Through it all, she shares how motherhood reshaped her priorities, how love taught her to accept stability over chaos, and how creativity became a necessary way of reconnecting with herself. Hilary&rsquo;s reflections reveal a powerful truth: what the world often calls luck is usually years of quiet strength, hard choices, and inner work.&nbsp;
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Trust Your Intuition Over &ldquo;Luck&rdquo;
How to Grow Without Rejecting Your Past
How to Accept Healthy Love (Even When It Feels Unfamiliar)
How to Break Family Patterns Without Losing Compassion
How to Balance Motherhood and Personal Ambition
How to Hold Joy and Pain at the Same Time
How to Reinvent Yourself Without Losing Who You Are
You are allowed to choose steadiness over chaos, truth over politeness, and peace over performance. Growth isn&rsquo;t always loud, sometimes it&rsquo;s simply deciding you don&rsquo;t want to repeat the same pattern again.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
JAY&rsquo;S DAILY WISDOM DELIVERED STRAIGHT TO YOUR INBOX
Join 900,000+ readers discovering how small daily shifts create big life change with my free newsletter. Subscribe <a href="https://news.jayshetty.me/subscribe">here</a>.&nbsp;
Check out our Apple subscription to unlock bonus content of On Purpose! <a href="https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast">https://lnk.to/JayShettyPodcast</a>&nbsp;
What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:04 The Joy of Being Celebrated
02:46 Choosing Truth Over Politeness
05:15 What&rsquo;s a Childhood Memory That Keeps You Grounded?
06:56 The Truth About Growing Up in the Public Eye
11:38 Learning to Feel at Home in Your Own Skin
14:22 Where Real Confidence Comes From
19:08 Opening Your Heart to Love Again
21:28 Understanding the Weight of Marriage
25:03 Deciding to Fully Commit
26:24 Trusting Your Intuition
27:28 Owning the Work Behind Your Success
30:36 The Burden of Being the Family Peacemaker
36:18 Navigating Divorce with Intention
38:26 Sharing Your Story on Your Terms
43:50 Holding Joy and Hardship at the Same Time
46:44 Healing and Connecting Through Music
51:49 The Hilary Duff Renaissance&nbsp;
54:50 Staying Attuned to Your Children&rsquo;s Needs
01:00:59 Building Confidence as a Parent
01:02:26 How Did You Name Your Kids?
01:04:27 Disney-Era &ldquo;Would You Rather&rdquo;
01:08:42 Hilary on Final Five&nbsp;
Episode Resources:
Website | <a href="https://www.hilaryduff.com/">https://www.hilaryduff.com/</a>&nbsp;
YouTube | <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRmCrFvCPomTqjzwoF9MGw">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSRmCrFvCPomTqjzwoF9MGw</a>&nbsp;
Facebook | <a href="https://www.facebook.com/HilaryDuff/">https://www.facebook.com/HilaryDuff/</a>&nbsp;
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