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We're back on a big stage over at Dick's Sporting Goods podcast. Come on, man, i don't know if y'all know this, but I've got a I've got a podcast coming up that I'm super excited to talk about. You know, I appreciate you subscribing. Yeah, we say you know. This next one is really really near and dear to my heart. Uh, it's a It's got a host that's charismatic, funny, talented, maybe a time pro bowler three time on bro whatever I call him me, You guys can call me Cam.

We're back on a big stage over at Dick's Sporting Goods podcast. Come on, man, i don't know if y'all know this, but I've got a I've got a podcast coming up that I'm super excited to talk about. You know, I appreciate you subscribing. Yeah, we say you know. This next one is really really near and dear to my heart. Uh, it's a It's got a host that's charismatic, funny, talented, maybe a time pro bowler three time on bro whatever I call him me, You guys can call me Cam.

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I'm so excited to have you here. I mean, come on, just just a living legend herself. As before any questions, I just wanted to give you your flowers.

I'm so excited to have you here. I mean, come on, just just a living legend herself. As before any questions, I just wanted to give you your flowers.

Now.

Now.

Everything you do has been amazing r trendsetter, you know, one of the first one, one of the first WBA contracts ever.

Everything you do has been amazing r trendsetter, you know, one of the first one, one of the first WBA contracts ever.

Right, Yeah, the contracts then were a little different than they are now.

Right, Yeah, the contracts then were a little different than they are now.

What does that mean?

What does that mean?

Like we love that as a kid, like as an NFL player, I know, like contracts are just like regular negotiations for you as a WNBA player at one point time to have to be like one of the first to get a contract, what how did that happen to be all just playing for free?

Like we love that as a kid, like as an NFL player, I know, like contracts are just like regular negotiations for you as a WNBA player at one point time to have to be like one of the first to get a contract, what how did that happen to be all just playing for free?

First of all, let me just say like I am super honored to be on your show. I appreciate that, like here and you know fanatics fast where you could have had anybody. I am truly honored. But I will say this, when the WNBA first started in ninety seven, there really was no negotiating a contract. It was here's where your contract is, this is what we're gonna pay you. And we were just happy and excited to be able to have a league to play in.

First of all, let me just say like I am super honored to be on your show. I appreciate that, like here and you know fanatics fast where you could have had anybody. I am truly honored. But I will say this, when the WNBA first started in ninety seven, there really was no negotiating a contract. It was here's where your contract is, this is what we're gonna pay you. And we were just happy and excited to be able to have a league to play in.

Period.

Period.

So you was just like, I'll take whatever you give me. I'm thanks, well, right like that, okay.

So you was just like, I'll take whatever you give me. I'm thanks, well, right like that, okay.

But here's the thing.

But here's the thing.

It was different because there there were a few of us who actually had playing contracts and marketing contracts, So the marketing contract, it supplemented what we didn't make playing. So I was I was fortunate enough to be one of those players that had both you.

It was different because there there were a few of us who actually had playing contracts and marketing contracts, So the marketing contract, it supplemented what we didn't make playing. So I was I was fortunate enough to be one of those players that had both you.

Yeah you without saying you was that guy. You were that guy. Yeah you were you were that, you were that lady? Yeah you were her?

Yeah you without saying you was that guy. You were that guy. Yeah you were you were that, you were that lady? Yeah you were her?

There we go, yeah Timothy hermity Yeah, okay, yeah that part.

There we go, yeah Timothy hermity Yeah, okay, yeah that part.

I mean, come on, what what didn't you do in your in your career?

I mean, come on, what what didn't you do in your in your career?

I mean, you accomplished so much from being a four time WBA champion, a three time goal Olympic gold medalists, you know, three time w n B, A m VP, I mean, Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, what haven't you done? What didn't you do in your career? Any any regrets like oh my gosh, I wish I would have can't say, give more buckets?

I mean, you accomplished so much from being a four time WBA champion, a three time goal Olympic gold medalists, you know, three time w n B, A m VP, I mean, Defensive Player of the Year. I mean, what haven't you done? What didn't you do in your career? Any any regrets like oh my gosh, I wish I would have can't say, give more buckets?

He was the MVP.

He was the MVP.

No, no, no, no, you know what I honestly said when I retired that I was ready to retire because there was no like, there was no challenge left for me as far as playing.

No, no, no, no, you know what I honestly said when I retired that I was ready to retire because there was no like, there was no challenge left for me as far as playing.

No, like, I don't do that.

No, like, I don't do that.

I've done it all.

I've done it all.

No.

No.

But you know what, No, Here's why I say that, because as a competitor and you know this, right, Like, you always.

But you know what, No, Here's why I say that, because as a competitor and you know this, right, Like, you always.

Want to be the best.

Want to be the best.

Absolutely, you want to be at the.

Absolutely, you want to be at the.

Top of your game.

Top of your game.

So for me to win four championships, to win MVPs, to win a scoring title, to win Defense Player of the Year, to play in the Olympics, like I was ready for a new challenge. But also it got to a point to where it felt like a job. And so to me, I always said, when when I woke up every morning and dreaded having to go to the gym, then I knew it was time for me to retire.

So for me to win four championships, to win MVPs, to win a scoring title, to win Defense Player of the Year, to play in the Olympics, like I was ready for a new challenge. But also it got to a point to where it felt like a job. And so to me, I always said, when when I woke up every morning and dreaded having to go to the gym, then I knew it was time for me to retire.

Man, so that just sounds like an off season for me. I dread going to the gym. I'm like, dang, I.

Man, so that just sounds like an off season for me. I dread going to the gym. I'm like, dang, I.

Don't believe that.

Don't believe that.

I mean, I'm just saying, you know, like off season, you live hard, you get to travel well, drink good, eat good, and then you look down You're like, this gut does not represent who I am, and then you gotta work it off.

I mean, I'm just saying, you know, like off season, you live hard, you get to travel well, drink good, eat good, and then you look down You're like, this gut does not represent who I am, and then you gotta work it off.

I'm I'm I'm still in my off season. You know what I said.

I'm I'm I'm still in my off season. You know what I said.

I'm I'm not here for that.

I'm I'm not here for that.

But you know, as a competitor and especially when you're at the top of your game and like being a lead and every single day, twice a day in the off season, you're working out, you're in the gym, You're doing all the things to be at the top of your game. So I actually said, when I retired, I was so excited to not have to go and work out every day, to not have to be on a special diet. I said, for a year, I was gonna do whatever I wanted to do. I was gonna eat what I wanted to eat. I was gonna drink what I wanted to drink.

But you know, as a competitor and especially when you're at the top of your game and like being a lead and every single day, twice a day in the off season, you're working out, you're in the gym, You're doing all the things to be at the top of your game. So I actually said, when I retired, I was so excited to not have to go and work out every day, to not have to be on a special diet. I said, for a year, I was gonna do whatever I wanted to do. I was gonna eat what I wanted to eat. I was gonna drink what I wanted to drink.

For a year.

For a year.

So many years later, I'm still eating what I want to eat for.

So many years later, I'm still eating what I want to eat for.

A year's Yeah, okay, you know, look, I don't know about their retirement life just yet, but I now understand the mentality.

A year's Yeah, okay, you know, look, I don't know about their retirement life just yet, but I now understand the mentality.

I'm just telling you it's hard.

I'm just telling you it's hard.

I can't wait. I'ma be playing like pick a ball for the rest of my life. So I'm not trying to hear it.

I can't wait. I'ma be playing like pick a ball for the rest of my life. So I'm not trying to hear it.

Really, Hey, are you ready to retire? Huh?

Really, Hey, are you ready to retire? Huh?

Absolutely not? I said, when when three years from now, when Tyler Shunk is.

Absolutely not? I said, when when three years from now, when Tyler Shunk is.

Some good, good years ahead of you?

Some good, good years ahead of you?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Absolutely, Come on, I got I got an amazing team, and you said I am her.

Absolutely, Come on, I got I got an amazing team, and you said I am her.

I'm saying you are him.

I'm saying you are him.

Yeah, yeah, so true, so true.

Yeah, yeah, so true, so true.

So tell us what you're up to now and like, I mean, I know, like you used to work for Nike and I was like, dang when she come in, I got to ask her for the Nike plug.

So tell us what you're up to now and like, I mean, I know, like you used to work for Nike and I was like, dang when she come in, I got to ask her for the Nike plug.

But you know, what, what's you up to now?

But you know, what, what's you up to now?

How do you know somebody? You know?

How do you know somebody? You know?

For me just being able to continue to be around the game and mentor these young ladies.

For me just being able to continue to be around the game and mentor these young ladies.

I love where the W is today.

I love where the W is today.

It's in a space where so many of us when the league started in ninety seven we wanted to see where it is right now but didn't know if we would. The fact that we now have not just female basketball players, but we have female athletes who are signing million dollar endorsement deals. True, Yeah, that's that's that's that's pretty crazy because I don't think any of us ever thought we would see that day. So other than that, I have a couple of podcasts. I have my own podcasts that we will actually be right here on the Dicks Sporting Good stage tomorrow.

It's in a space where so many of us when the league started in ninety seven we wanted to see where it is right now but didn't know if we would. The fact that we now have not just female basketball players, but we have female athletes who are signing million dollar endorsement deals. True, Yeah, that's that's that's that's pretty crazy because I don't think any of us ever thought we would see that day. So other than that, I have a couple of podcasts. I have my own podcasts that we will actually be right here on the Dicks Sporting Good stage tomorrow.

It's called levels to this.

It's called levels to this.

We got good levels because because it's.

We got good levels because because it's.

Levels to the stuff I won't say the other words levels to the stuff.

Levels to the stuff I won't say the other words levels to the stuff.

Absolutely that we go through. You're also a commentator for the Athletes.

Absolutely that we go through. You're also a commentator for the Athletes.

To United or Athletes Limited yeah, which I enjoy doing. There's just so much talent out there right now, and unfortunately the W doesn't have not only enough teams, but doesn't have enough roster spots. So I love the fact that athletes unlimited, it's another pro league.

To United or Athletes Limited yeah, which I enjoy doing. There's just so much talent out there right now, and unfortunately the W doesn't have not only enough teams, but doesn't have enough roster spots. So I love the fact that athletes unlimited, it's another pro league.

It gives women an opportunity to stay here and play.

It gives women an opportunity to stay here and play.

Right, you have unrival, which gives women another opportunity to stay here and play and to make some money. Like, I love everything about where women's sports is headed right now.

Right, you have unrival, which gives women another opportunity to stay here and play and to make some money. Like, I love everything about where women's sports is headed right now.

Absolutely. I'll say, you see girls get drafted. If they're not in the first round, you're able to get cut like immediately, which is wild because again, you know, football normally there's a development program the first, second, third, fourth round.

Absolutely. I'll say, you see girls get drafted. If they're not in the first round, you're able to get cut like immediately, which is wild because again, you know, football normally there's a development program the first, second, third, fourth round.

You're normally safe. Women, it's it's getting now, it's getting now. Can you can you contend now?

You're normally safe. Women, it's it's getting now, it's getting now. Can you can you contend now?

And you know, and to be honest with you, sometimes some of those that go in.

And you know, and to be honest with you, sometimes some of those that go in.

The first round get gone.

The first round get gone.

Yes, like but but I yes, there aren't enough teams, there aren't enough roster spots.

Yes, like but but I yes, there aren't enough teams, there aren't enough roster spots.

But I also don't.

But I also don't.

Think people truly understand the talent level that's in the W, Like they're not just out there kind of going through the motions like they are competing, and it's very different going from college to the pros because now it's a job, right, so you have these women coming in from college that are trying to come and get your job for sure.

Think people truly understand the talent level that's in the W, Like they're not just out there kind of going through the motions like they are competing, and it's very different going from college to the pros because now it's a job, right, so you have these women coming in from college that are trying to come and get your job for sure.

And so trades that happened. You know, see my girl Sophie Cunningham go from the Mercury. Now she's over Indiana, we pick up. So I'm not like, you know, I'm like, I'm just it.

And so trades that happened. You know, see my girl Sophie Cunningham go from the Mercury. Now she's over Indiana, we pick up. So I'm not like, you know, I'm like, I'm just it.

Was, you know, the free agency, the moves, all the things that happened this offseason in the wh it was it was interesting. I would say that it was some very interesting moves that happened in the w and BA this offseason.

Was, you know, the free agency, the moves, all the things that happened this offseason in the wh it was it was interesting. I would say that it was some very interesting moves that happened in the w and BA this offseason.

That part, but I'm here for it.

That part, but I'm here for it.

That being said, we have focusing on basketball again.

That being said, we have focusing on basketball again.

Just thinking about two years ago we started implementing what is it, the Commissioner's.

Just thinking about two years ago we started implementing what is it, the Commissioner's.

Cup, Right, how does how does that even work? Like I clearly don't understand.

Cup, Right, how does how does that even work? Like I clearly don't understand.

You've got you've got a finals, but you've got it in seasons.

You've got you've got a finals, but you've got it in seasons.

Well, you know, like it's played like as football.

Well, you know, like it's played like as football.

I'm like, I'm like, okay, they need something to play with because there's eighty two games or you know for the WBA there's a little less.

I'm like, I'm like, okay, they need something to play with because there's eighty two games or you know for the WBA there's a little less.

But you were having in season playoff for a playoff to come up.

But you were having in season playoff for a playoff to come up.

In season tournament.

In season tournament.

There we go.

There we go.

So I actually believe the w started the Commissioner's Cup before the NBA started their inn season tournament. So I think the NBA looked at the Commissioner's Cup and said, oh, they may have something here, so let's try it. Right, It's it is different from what the men are doing. But what I love about it is, yeah, we don't play as many games, but they're still playing for a bag.

So I actually believe the w started the Commissioner's Cup before the NBA started their inn season tournament. So I think the NBA looked at the Commissioner's Cup and said, oh, they may have something here, so let's try it. Right, It's it is different from what the men are doing. But what I love about it is, yeah, we don't play as many games, but they're still playing for a bag.

Like you put some money on the line. They want to compete and play hard.

Like you put some money on the line. They want to compete and play hard.

And what I love about this year is you have Minnesota who's gonna try and defend their Commissioner's Cup title, playing against a new team in the finals, the Indiana Fever.

And what I love about this year is you have Minnesota who's gonna try and defend their Commissioner's Cup title, playing against a new team in the finals, the Indiana Fever.

And I'll just be reading a room for an afeast of the whole way. Come on, man like that.

And I'll just be reading a room for an afeast of the whole way. Come on, man like that.

If I had to, if I got to vote, and I had to vote today, it's her.

If I had to, if I got to vote, and I had to vote today, it's her.

He is by far the m v P right now.

He is by far the m v P right now.

I don't know enough to call her feet, So she's in the feast of the met.

I don't know enough to call her feet, So she's in the feast of the met.

M VP right now.

M VP right now.

Absolutely, just say, Minnesota, Lynks, that's just so great that they're sort of back in the revolution to I mean back in twenty eleven when I got drafted. You can, I can vividly remember being in Bristol and seeing the w n B A draft in Maya more being drafted that year, right, yeah, fifteen years later.

Absolutely, just say, Minnesota, Lynks, that's just so great that they're sort of back in the revolution to I mean back in twenty eleven when I got drafted. You can, I can vividly remember being in Bristol and seeing the w n B A draft in Maya more being drafted that year, right, yeah, fifteen years later.

Crazy, but they're they're they're back in contention. You know.

Crazy, but they're they're they're back in contention. You know.

It's just a full circle situation where the winner of the Commissioner's Cup gets five hundred grand.

It's just a full circle situation where the winner of the Commissioner's Cup gets five hundred grand.

Plus they split it. Okay, yeah, I saw that number.

Plus they split it. Okay, yeah, I saw that number.

I say, is that for every player?

I say, is that for every player?

Man, they ain't got that kind of money?

Man, they ain't got that kind of money?

Okay, cool? Cool, Google realistic, realistic.

Okay, cool? Cool, Google realistic, realistic.

Eleven players to split five hundred k.

Eleven players to split five hundred k.

Yeah, forty five, forty eight something around there.

Yeah, forty five, forty eight something around there.

Yeah, plus plus another five bands and cryptocurrency which kept pooon.

Yeah, plus plus another five bands and cryptocurrency which kept pooon.

I'm not gonna tell you to get some bigcoin, but it could.

I'm not gonna tell you to get some bigcoin, but it could.

Poom get to bitcoin.

Poom get to bitcoin.

Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. We're not here to push that right now. Think about just what we're talking about. Who wait, who won the I'll say nd season tournament really doesn't lead to who's gonna win the championship though. NBA we had Milwaukee win the n season championship and they're not even no, Yeah, so it's not indicative of what what was coming up. I think Lakers won the n season championship and we know they didn't make it. Sorry, I'm a Laker hater for any fans out there.

Yeah right, yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right, you're right. We're not here to push that right now. Think about just what we're talking about. Who wait, who won the I'll say nd season tournament really doesn't lead to who's gonna win the championship though. NBA we had Milwaukee win the n season championship and they're not even no, Yeah, so it's not indicative of what what was coming up. I think Lakers won the n season championship and we know they didn't make it. Sorry, I'm a Laker hater for any fans out there.

I'm the Laker fans right here.

I'm the Laker fans right here.

Yeah, we're in New York. We should be safe because I'm a Laker hater for sure.

Yeah, we're in New York. We should be safe because I'm a Laker hater for sure.

I like, I don't say any Laker fans right here.

I like, I don't say any Laker fans right here.

Yeah, when you said when you said, uh, when you said the w n b A was going through was going through a movement, what did you mean by that when you say they had in the right direction?

Yeah, when you said when you said, uh, when you said the w n b A was going through was going through a movement, what did you mean by that when you say they had in the right direction?

I'm sorry I had to acknowledge her T shirt because I love that. I like that shot. I'm sorry none of earlier.

I'm sorry I had to acknowledge her T shirt because I love that. I like that shot. I'm sorry none of earlier.

You said WBA was going through a movement and you like where it was headed. When you said movement, what did you mean by that?

You said WBA was going through a movement and you like where it was headed. When you said movement, what did you mean by that?

Per se?

Per se?

Well, I mean listen when the.

Well, I mean listen when the.

So I keep up with how old the league is because my son will be twenty eight in June.

So I keep up with how old the league is because my son will be twenty eight in June.

So when I gave birth to my son, it was the first game in the WNBA.

So when I gave birth to my son, it was the first game in the WNBA.

And like I tell people this all the time, the talent, to me, the talent has always been good. The difference today is there are way more eyes on the league, way more eyes on the league, way more fans in the league. Just the competitiveness that these ladies are showing every single game, day in day out.

And like I tell people this all the time, the talent, to me, the talent has always been good. The difference today is there are way more eyes on the league, way more eyes on the league, way more fans in the league. Just the competitiveness that these ladies are showing every single game, day in day out.

I think when I.

I think when I.

Say, it's not a moment, it's a movement, Like people are actually excited to watch and tune.

Say, it's not a moment, it's a movement, Like people are actually excited to watch and tune.

In to the WNBA.

In to the WNBA.

Anytime you have seeing inn first take any of those leading off with something that has to.

Anytime you have seeing inn first take any of those leading off with something that has to.

Do with the WNBA.

Do with the WNBA.

Yeah, a lot of people would say, then we've made it, And I say, unfortunately, right, it takes things like that for people to talk about the WNBA, for people to say, oh, let me tune in, let me check it out. But I will say this, I love everything about where the game is, where it's headed. I love the competitiveness. I love the physicality.

Yeah, a lot of people would say, then we've made it, And I say, unfortunately, right, it takes things like that for people to talk about the WNBA, for people to say, oh, let me tune in, let me check it out. But I will say this, I love everything about where the game is, where it's headed. I love the competitiveness. I love the physicality.

Of the game. Like that's a whole different conversation we can have.

Of the game. Like that's a whole different conversation we can have.

Like then, physical in the WNBA is nothing new, Like it's it's.

Like then, physical in the WNBA is nothing new, Like it's it's.

It's always been that way.

It's always been that way.

My question is why is it okay for the men to be physical but it's not okay for the women to be physical?

My question is why is it okay for the men to be physical but it's not okay for the women to be physical?

I don't know.

I don't know.

Look, I've been watching games as far back as like Britney Grinder's rookie year almost said freshman year, so that it's make enough sense. But you know, like she's always been physical to play with. So I don't I don't know our Mercury basketball, we don't play that. We play physical out there, Mercury.

Look, I've been watching games as far back as like Britney Grinder's rookie year almost said freshman year, so that it's make enough sense. But you know, like she's always been physical to play with. So I don't I don't know our Mercury basketball, we don't play that. We play physical out there, Mercury.

What you're talking about today's Mercury. Yeah, I mean before Mercury right now? Now because both of them, do y'all have a T on your team? Now, y'all play physical absolutely?

What you're talking about today's Mercury. Yeah, I mean before Mercury right now? Now because both of them, do y'all have a T on your team? Now, y'all play physical absolutely?

Then we had d T on the team too, like Diana.

Then we had d T on the team too, like Diana.

Who plays physical absolutely.

Who plays physical absolutely.

But I would say this, I don't know if people and I'll say like the new fans, I don't know if people truly understand the difference though, in being physical and being dirty, because it's different.

But I would say this, I don't know if people and I'll say like the new fans, I don't know if people truly understand the difference though, in being physical and being dirty, because it's different.

It's a fine line. There is a difference, but there's a fine line. You think about the Cherry Pistons, bad boys back in the gap.

It's a fine line. There is a difference, but there's a fine line. You think about the Cherry Pistons, bad boys back in the gap.

Label them what they were.

Label them what they were.

They were, they were dirty, all right.

They were, they were dirty, all right.

Cool, as long as you said it. I got I got people out there that I always ride from, like many exactly perfect. I'm a transition to cut to some fan questions.

Cool, as long as you said it. I got I got people out there that I always ride from, like many exactly perfect. I'm a transition to cut to some fan questions.

Knew he was coming in. Put it out. Ig Ig has a couple of responses. So I only have a couple of questions for you from the fans. Knock them out from the fans.

Knew he was coming in. Put it out. Ig Ig has a couple of responses. So I only have a couple of questions for you from the fans. Knock them out from the fans.

Let's see what memory do you go back to most from your playing days where you need to pick me up.

Let's see what memory do you go back to most from your playing days where you need to pick me up.

I used to be a buth hot no when I need to pick me up.

I used to be a buth hot no when I need to pick me up.

Yeah, I crossed over.

Yeah, I crossed over.

No for me, like the fact that with Houston we won the very first four championships, like in a row. I don't care what sport it is, male, female, Like, like, that's hard to do.

No for me, like the fact that with Houston we won the very first four championships, like in a row. I don't care what sport it is, male, female, Like, like, that's hard to do.

It's hard to win one championship, let alone.

It's hard to win one championship, let alone.

And then so when when I go back and I think about my playing days, I absolutely have to think about what we were able to do the first four years in the w n.

And then so when when I go back and I think about my playing days, I absolutely have to think about what we were able to do the first four years in the w n.

B A and and winning four championships.

B A and and winning four championships.

I love that because I like, you still wear your rhetoring the more.

I love that because I like, you still wear your rhetoring the more.

When I went to Super Bowl with the Saints, the wedding ring goes and Upper places it, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm married, but you gotta watch my ring though, Like I can't.

When I went to Super Bowl with the Saints, the wedding ring goes and Upper places it, and I'm like, I'm like, I'm married, but you gotta watch my ring though, Like I can't.

You get the rings to go on different fingers.

You get the rings to go on different fingers.

All right, So I just need to start off with the one I don't. I don't know about multiple fingers. Come on, come on, smister Ratler, come on, Tyler shuck.

All right, So I just need to start off with the one I don't. I don't know about multiple fingers. Come on, come on, smister Ratler, come on, Tyler shuck.

We can do it. Looking looking back, how surreal doesn't.

We can do it. Looking looking back, how surreal doesn't.

Feel to be in the position you are in now, Legend, Hall of Famer, multiple championship winner.

Feel to be in the position you are in now, Legend, Hall of Famer, multiple championship winner.

I'm I'm very I'm very blessed.

I'm I'm very I'm very blessed.

I will tell you that I don't know, like I don't know if I ever thought basketball would.

I will tell you that I don't know, like I don't know if I ever thought basketball would.

Like change my life, right. I never set.

Like change my life, right. I never set.

Out playing the game to be a legend, per se. I played the game because I loved it. There was there was something about me and a basketball, and it didn't.

Out playing the game to be a legend, per se. I played the game because I loved it. There was there was something about me and a basketball, and it didn't.

Have to have anyone else on the court.

Have to have anyone else on the court.

I just really enjoyed what I was able to do with the basketball.

I just really enjoyed what I was able to do with the basketball.

I will say to to sit here today.

I will say to to sit here today.

And watch the game and watch the amazing, incredible talent that continues to come through the league, I'm I'm I'm honored. Like I'm honored that a lot of these players still, you know, reach out to me and they want to talk to me. And you know, Asia a couple of years ago, was like, how did you how tell me? How did you do it? How did you repeat? It's it's just a great feeling to know that you're you're appreciated for what you gave to the game, and the fans continue to.

And watch the game and watch the amazing, incredible talent that continues to come through the league, I'm I'm I'm honored. Like I'm honored that a lot of these players still, you know, reach out to me and they want to talk to me. And you know, Asia a couple of years ago, was like, how did you how tell me? How did you do it? How did you repeat? It's it's just a great feeling to know that you're you're appreciated for what you gave to the game, and the fans continue to.

Appreciate you for that.

Appreciate you for that.

Don't get me wrong, there are some who are like, who, well, they're just haters.

Don't get me wrong, there are some who are like, who, well, they're just haters.

Haters.

Haters.

You know, you winning a championship at every level, high school, you know, national champions at Texas Tech, multiple championships in the w NBA. That competitive drive has that always been there where you was always like the first in line, like at the front, like, yeah, I'll beat you here, like you have you know, like, tell me how either tell me how you got your competitive drive?

You know, you winning a championship at every level, high school, you know, national champions at Texas Tech, multiple championships in the w NBA. That competitive drive has that always been there where you was always like the first in line, like at the front, like, yeah, I'll beat you here, like you have you know, like, tell me how either tell me how you got your competitive drive?

How you got that? I need it.

How you got that? I need it.

I grew up with with two I have two older brothers and a younger brother, so I was the only girl and I got beat up all the time.

I grew up with with two I have two older brothers and a younger brother, so I was the only girl and I got beat up all the time.

And you know, the only way my mom.

And you know, the only way my mom.

Would let me go do stuff is if I was going to do it with my brothers. But I think for me, it was just something that at a very young age was instilled in me and watching my brothers, but also watching how just watching my mom. My mom played softball. But I always wanted to be the best like whatever I was doing, and I was never okay with just being okay. So I always thought there was somebody somewhere in this world that was working a little bit harder than me, and that never sat right with me because I wanted to be the absolute best at everything I did.

Would let me go do stuff is if I was going to do it with my brothers. But I think for me, it was just something that at a very young age was instilled in me and watching my brothers, but also watching how just watching my mom. My mom played softball. But I always wanted to be the best like whatever I was doing, and I was never okay with just being okay. So I always thought there was somebody somewhere in this world that was working a little bit harder than me, and that never sat right with me because I wanted to be the absolute best at everything I did.

I hear that part like this, That's why I enjoy like those dog days of training when you're like you got nothing left.

I hear that part like this, That's why I enjoy like those dog days of training when you're like you got nothing left.

And you're like, you know what, there's probably some little.

And you're like, you know what, there's probably some little.

Nil talented kid out there grinding right now trying to get a bigger bag. I'm gonna hit this last extra sprint.

Nil talented kid out there grinding right now trying to get a bigger bag. I'm gonna hit this last extra sprint.

NIL very different.

NIL very different.

Yeah, I'm clearly.

Yeah, I'm clearly.

Laughing at that part because they don't get it like we used to. I'm not gonna lie to. NIL has made the game softer, and.

Laughing at that part because they don't get it like we used to. I'm not gonna lie to. NIL has made the game softer, and.

I'm here for it. I'm like, oh, you got a adversity, you're hurting, You're gonna transfer? Cool? No, I stuck mine out about that. I love it.

I'm here for it. I'm like, oh, you got a adversity, you're hurting, You're gonna transfer? Cool? No, I stuck mine out about that. I love it.

I pay the players now, they just pay them what they owe, Like I hate that I had to struggle through college and like become a bouncer and become a peer advisor.

I pay the players now, they just pay them what they owe, Like I hate that I had to struggle through college and like become a bouncer and become a peer advisor.

There was other jobs, Like if I could have just focused.

There was other jobs, Like if I could have just focused.

On football, I would have loved it, But at the same time, it also defined what I what I felt like I needed.

On football, I would have loved it, But at the same time, it also defined what I what I felt like I needed.

But do you do.

But do you do.

You think, because I love it too to a certain degree, do you think it's changed the.

You think, because I love it too to a certain degree, do you think it's changed the.

Game, Because there's always there's always been.

Game, Because there's always there's always been.

You've always had teammates that did it for the love of the money, or the love of the adolation, the exactly the adilation, the adoration, the statistics of it. All that drop statistics long before they drop hey, I'm actually a good team player, like man, I dropped twenty oh man a masco of four touchdowns. But they don't say hey, like I made my teammates better, or they always like, oh man, I hate bruh. Like you know what I'm saying. I went for two tuddies whatever it is. I was like, I got this contract coming up. You can feel the money grabbers, the attention grabbers, but I want real football players. And then il sort of like weans that out. It shows you who you are at eighteen nineteen twenty. You give a kid, I'm not gonna put nose on it, but you see you seet on numbers at getting you get a kid like that. It shows me if you're willing to work or you're working for the money. If you're working for the money, take it and go.

You've always had teammates that did it for the love of the money, or the love of the adolation, the exactly the adilation, the adoration, the statistics of it. All that drop statistics long before they drop hey, I'm actually a good team player, like man, I dropped twenty oh man a masco of four touchdowns. But they don't say hey, like I made my teammates better, or they always like, oh man, I hate bruh. Like you know what I'm saying. I went for two tuddies whatever it is. I was like, I got this contract coming up. You can feel the money grabbers, the attention grabbers, but I want real football players. And then il sort of like weans that out. It shows you who you are at eighteen nineteen twenty. You give a kid, I'm not gonna put nose on it, but you see you seet on numbers at getting you get a kid like that. It shows me if you're willing to work or you're working for the money. If you're working for the money, take it and go.

Weed them out now.

Weed them out now.

But if you're here for the game, the money is cool. I love that I can take care of my mom. I love that I can take care of my family. That's great. But I'm here because I want to be here. I'm here because I feel like I can be the best, and I want to be the best, and to be the best, I don't need I don't need bread. I appreciate the breads and I have to worry about feeding the film. But I'm here for the sacks. I'm here for the winds. I'm here for making my teammates better and hoping that they want to be like me. Because if I'm out here running my ad, their air off, poster ear off, if I'm grinding the way I am, I want you to see it and be like, dang, that's what he's doing to get to where he got, that's how he's all pro Well, Dang, if I he's.

But if you're here for the game, the money is cool. I love that I can take care of my mom. I love that I can take care of my family. That's great. But I'm here because I want to be here. I'm here because I feel like I can be the best, and I want to be the best, and to be the best, I don't need I don't need bread. I appreciate the breads and I have to worry about feeding the film. But I'm here for the sacks. I'm here for the winds. I'm here for making my teammates better and hoping that they want to be like me. Because if I'm out here running my ad, their air off, poster ear off, if I'm grinding the way I am, I want you to see it and be like, dang, that's what he's doing to get to where he got, that's how he's all pro Well, Dang, if I he's.

Doing that, I can beat him. No you can't. And if you can't, come show me.

Doing that, I can beat him. No you can't. And if you can't, come show me.

And I still like I have that, like I need that, and I'm trying to steal that in the next wave of kids.

And I still like I have that, like I need that, and I'm trying to steal that in the next wave of kids.

You don't see it like that. They're like, oh yeah, I'm getting a big dog.

You don't see it like that. They're like, oh yeah, I'm getting a big dog.

But yeah, but that but you're talking about as a professional.

But yeah, but that but you're talking about as a professional.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But to me when I think about nil, right, and it might feel a little different on the women's side because now when it comes to recruiting, like one of the first questions is how much money you got?

But to me when I think about nil, right, and it might feel a little different on the women's side because now when it comes to recruiting, like one of the first questions is how much money you got?

I need my money?

I need my money?

Yeah?

Yeah?

So that is that from the kids or the parents?

So that is that from the kids or the parents?

Oh? I think it's both. I definitely think it's the parents.

Oh? I think it's both. I definitely think it's the parents.

It's like, no, you're gonna go over here because they're gonna pay you five hundred thousand more than this school and.

It's like, no, you're gonna go over here because they're gonna pay you five hundred thousand more than this school and.

They don't care about playing time.

They don't care about playing time.

Is it a good fit for you? Are you a good fit for them? How is the coaching staff? I just I do. I honestly do think the nil situation it has changed the collegiate game.

Is it a good fit for you? Are you a good fit for them? How is the coaching staff? I just I do. I honestly do think the nil situation it has changed the collegiate game.

Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's no they're pro ams. I mean they're really they're really pro. They're getting paid to produce.

Oh yeah, yeah, there's there's no they're pro ams. I mean they're really they're really pro. They're getting paid to produce.

So so how so how excited go bears?

So so how so how excited go bears?

Oh? Yeah?

Oh? Yeah?

So?

So?

How how excited do you think it makes the players who are making all this money in college now they're going pro right?

How how excited do you think it makes the players who are making all this money in college now they're going pro right?

Taking a pay cut sometimes?

Taking a pay cut sometimes?

Yeah, especial especially on the women's side.

Yeah, especial especially on the women's side.

But I mean, the odds of you making out. Are you doing what you're doing that's completely different, Like you had everything stacked against you, and yeah, when you came out, everybody was like she could be she really play the NBA.

But I mean, the odds of you making out. Are you doing what you're doing that's completely different, Like you had everything stacked against you, and yeah, when you came out, everybody was like she could be she really play the NBA.

Seryf soops is like that, stay tuned, we'll be right back. You played. You played a one on one game with Michael Jordan. I still want to talk about.

Seryf soops is like that, stay tuned, we'll be right back. You played. You played a one on one game with Michael Jordan. I still want to talk about.

It, like he played one on one game with me.

It, like he played one on one game with me.

Continue and that's why she's her. Okay, no, let.

Continue and that's why she's her. Okay, no, let.

You Michael Jordan was my role model growing up.

You Michael Jordan was my role model growing up.

Let let me say this. I do not now.

Let let me say this. I do not now.

I do not think I could have played in the NBA.

I do not think I could have played in the NBA.

Huh.

Huh.

It's it's just it's not to take anything away from like the game and the talent, but it's it's different. Like man, y'all are just built different than we are, Like you're naturally bigger, stronger, taller, all those things, not more skilled, but all the other things as you are. But Michael Jordan for me was everything like he is my goat. He's yes, he will forever be my goat. But what what I really appreciated about mj was it didn't matter if you were his teammate or not, what sport he was playing, like he was coming for your neck. Just very competitive, and if you watch the documentary, you know a lot of people were like, dang, I had no idea.

It's it's just it's not to take anything away from like the game and the talent, but it's it's different. Like man, y'all are just built different than we are, Like you're naturally bigger, stronger, taller, all those things, not more skilled, but all the other things as you are. But Michael Jordan for me was everything like he is my goat. He's yes, he will forever be my goat. But what what I really appreciated about mj was it didn't matter if you were his teammate or not, what sport he was playing, like he was coming for your neck. Just very competitive, and if you watch the documentary, you know a lot of people were like, dang, I had no idea.

He was like I was out.

He was like I was out.

There taking money from the little little assistant guards facts.

There taking money from the little little assistant guards facts.

You know, because Mike had the mentality, does that mean you played for money?

You know, because Mike had the mentality, does that mean you played for money?

Play for money. I ain't had no money to be playing. Now. We played for pride. We played for pride.

Play for money. I ain't had no money to be playing. Now. We played for pride. We played for pride.

There we go.

There we go.

But I just I left his mindset of if you're not helping me, you're in the way, right Like I'm trying to go get a championship every single year, and whether that's a team made or an opponent, you're in my way.

But I just I left his mindset of if you're not helping me, you're in the way, right Like I'm trying to go get a championship every single year, and whether that's a team made or an opponent, you're in my way.

And that was never okay.

And that was never okay.

But for me to have an opportunity to meet him, oh gosh, that was so many years ago and play.

But for me to have an opportunity to meet him, oh gosh, that was so many years ago and play.

One on one with him.

One on one with him.

Is absolutely at the top of my damn. I can't believe I did that.

Is absolutely at the top of my damn. I can't believe I did that.

You said he played with you, which let me know you won. That's a bragging right right there, Like you run me.

You said he played with you, which let me know you won. That's a bragging right right there, Like you run me.

That didn't Okay, I didn't.

That didn't Okay, I didn't.

He did.

He did.

He did try to dunk on me, though I didn't. That happened, okay, cool, cool that pride. No, I just grabbed him out of the air and just pulled him out of the air, like, Mike, I love you and I.

He did try to dunk on me, though I didn't. That happened, okay, cool, cool that pride. No, I just grabbed him out of the air and just pulled him out of the air, like, Mike, I love you and I.

Don't want to hurt you. Don't do this.

Don't want to hurt you. Don't do this.

The pride. The pride would not let that happen.

The pride. The pride would not let that happen.

All right, did y'all? Do y'all at least do like a jersey swap, Like.

All right, did y'all? Do y'all at least do like a jersey swap, Like.

I got his T shirt.

I got his T shirt.

There we go.

There we go.

I got his North Carolina one of his favorite North Carolina T shirts.

I got his North Carolina one of his favorite North Carolina T shirts.

Great, okay, yeah, look that's what I'm saying, because it was like, fine, No.

Great, okay, yeah, look that's what I'm saying, because it was like, fine, No.

That thing that makes a person it is Michael Jordan.

That thing that makes a person it is Michael Jordan.

You said he's your goat.

You said he's your goat.

It is Michael Jordan. What's your goat?

It is Michael Jordan. What's your goat?

Huh what? I'm sponsored by Jordan?

Huh what? I'm sponsored by Jordan?

So I will only have one answer, Thank you Michael for all the goods up over the years.

So I will only have one answer, Thank you Michael for all the goods up over the years.

Yeah, I will. I will never say anything.

Yeah, I will. I will never say anything.

Other otherwise, who's your second goat?

Other otherwise, who's your second goat?

Because I didn't get to watch two three growing up.

Because I didn't get to watch two three growing up.

I watched four or five at the Wizards, so I saw the.

I watched four or five at the Wizards, so I saw the.

Tail end like I didn't so his farewell game.

Tail end like I didn't so his farewell game.

I didn't see it like I saw Kobe's farewell game where he dropped sixty and I'm a Laker hater. I was like, yeah, you know, I see Lebron at forty still dunking on Cats, is doing Yeah, he's like forty five, playing with this kid like yaming on Cats and still one of the better guys on his team. So I like, I mean second place, Yeah, second place is what's Lebron leaves the Lakers. I'll say it's Lebron. I'm a Laker hater, so I just I can't anoint the Lakers cat I say here and Steve Nash, I'm clearly a Suns fan. I'm jaded, and that's okay. Yeah, Chris Paul worms Yeah, for sure for impact, for impact alone, nobody has ever had more hype around and delivered more like you. Normally you're a number one overall pick. You're like, yo, he's gonna be a consensus Hall of Famer. But we've been saying that about Lebron since he was like fourteen and everything that we was like, he's gonna win a championship in Cleveland. I'm sure he didn't do it the first time, but he rounded back. Yeah, Hey, you know what I got for you this dub. Yeah, and so like once again, once he leaves the Lakers, I'll be I'll be back on the he's the second greatest of all time, and we can argue years and years around. Once he finishes in the gold conversation, he can't be a goat because he hasn't finished yet. Once we finish, say that again, like he's still current, so like, once he finishes and then he like established, we know the whole story of the of the legacy, we'll talk about it.

I didn't see it like I saw Kobe's farewell game where he dropped sixty and I'm a Laker hater. I was like, yeah, you know, I see Lebron at forty still dunking on Cats, is doing Yeah, he's like forty five, playing with this kid like yaming on Cats and still one of the better guys on his team. So I like, I mean second place, Yeah, second place is what's Lebron leaves the Lakers. I'll say it's Lebron. I'm a Laker hater, so I just I can't anoint the Lakers cat I say here and Steve Nash, I'm clearly a Suns fan. I'm jaded, and that's okay. Yeah, Chris Paul worms Yeah, for sure for impact, for impact alone, nobody has ever had more hype around and delivered more like you. Normally you're a number one overall pick. You're like, yo, he's gonna be a consensus Hall of Famer. But we've been saying that about Lebron since he was like fourteen and everything that we was like, he's gonna win a championship in Cleveland. I'm sure he didn't do it the first time, but he rounded back. Yeah, Hey, you know what I got for you this dub. Yeah, and so like once again, once he leaves the Lakers, I'll be I'll be back on the he's the second greatest of all time, and we can argue years and years around. Once he finishes in the gold conversation, he can't be a goat because he hasn't finished yet. Once we finish, say that again, like he's still current, so like, once he finishes and then he like established, we know the whole story of the of the legacy, we'll talk about it.

That's so so that that's what I think. I think we use the term go way too.

That's so so that that's what I think. I think we use the term go way too.

Oh we throw that are easy, like.

Oh we throw that are easy, like.

Everybody's a goat nowadays.

Everybody's a goat nowadays.

And generational talent, the bane of my the crooks of my bane, like just yeah, like, don't throw generational out there. Generational is once every generation, once every twenty to thirty, like a cycle like fifteen to twenty years. You can be generational, but we throw that out there a lot all the time.

And generational talent, the bane of my the crooks of my bane, like just yeah, like, don't throw generational out there. Generational is once every generation, once every twenty to thirty, like a cycle like fifteen to twenty years. You can be generational, but we throw that out there a lot all the time.

And my thing is, you can be a really good player, but if you're to your point, if you're still playing the game, I don't know how you can be the goat.

And my thing is, you can be a really good player, but if you're to your point, if you're still playing the game, I don't know how you can be the goat.

Right, greatest of all time? Currently, Good to see you, silent, oh man, you.

Right, greatest of all time? Currently, Good to see you, silent, oh man, you.

Ac to see your silentce. That was good.

Ac to see your silentce. That was good.

Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know, I think at this is a great time I thought about this. I was like, I was looking at your shoes, looking at my shoes, but you used to have your own signature shoe.

Yeah, absolutely, yeah, you know, I think at this is a great time I thought about this. I was like, I was looking at your shoes, looking at my shoes, but you used to have your own signature shoe.

I did, did I did Swoop?

I did, did I did Swoop?

Yeah? What is that? What does that feel like? I ain't even had them. I ain't even have my own color way before.

Yeah? What is that? What does that feel like? I ain't even had them. I ain't even have my own color way before.

I've got like I've got like Jordan cleet pees, but pees are not your own cleat.

I've got like I've got like Jordan cleet pees, but pees are not your own cleat.

It's on a one, it's on a twelve, it's on But people.

It's on a one, it's on a twelve, it's on But people.

Don't People don't understand that.

Don't People don't understand that.

Like when you talk about signature shoes and having your own shoe, that means it's your shoe with your name. So at the time when I got my shoe, it was Michael Jordan and Cheryl.

Like when you talk about signature shoes and having your own shoe, that means it's your shoe with your name. So at the time when I got my shoe, it was Michael Jordan and Cheryl.

Swoops indeed, And.

Swoops indeed, And.

I don't know, it was like a surreal moment for me because I never, like growing up, I never said someday I'll have my own shoe. That wasn't something that was on my bucket list or something that I wrote down. But I have to say, being not only being the first female WNBA basketball player to have a signature shoe, but to be the first black female there's something special about at and now thirty years later, we have the second black woman in Asia Wilson and her a ones for me to still be around to see it, and to me, what makes this so special and different is it's not just a shoe, Like Asia has an entire line. She has the flip flop, she has the leggings, the shorts, the hoodies, the T shirts, the all the.

I don't know, it was like a surreal moment for me because I never, like growing up, I never said someday I'll have my own shoe. That wasn't something that was on my bucket list or something that I wrote down. But I have to say, being not only being the first female WNBA basketball player to have a signature shoe, but to be the first black female there's something special about at and now thirty years later, we have the second black woman in Asia Wilson and her a ones for me to still be around to see it, and to me, what makes this so special and different is it's not just a shoe, Like Asia has an entire line. She has the flip flop, she has the leggings, the shorts, the hoodies, the T shirts, the all the.

Things she has the amazing commercial.

Things she has the amazing commercial.

I just love to see how far the game has come, how far it's grown, and the fact that the shoe is made big enough for men to be able to wear it. When when Nike did my shoe back in nineteen ninety seven, they only made it up to a women's size eleven, so men couldn't wear the shoe. But it was just such an incredible moment and a special moment to do something out of the box that had never been done before. And now to see how far we've come with so many females now having their own signature shoe, not a pe, but their own signature shoe, right like the growth of.

I just love to see how far the game has come, how far it's grown, and the fact that the shoe is made big enough for men to be able to wear it. When when Nike did my shoe back in nineteen ninety seven, they only made it up to a women's size eleven, so men couldn't wear the shoe. But it was just such an incredible moment and a special moment to do something out of the box that had never been done before. And now to see how far we've come with so many females now having their own signature shoe, not a pe, but their own signature shoe, right like the growth of.

The game, it's we're just in a good place.

The game, it's we're just in a good place.

I'll say it sellout crowds now, it's it's a fun time. I remember going to games when I was younger, it wasn't like that. And now that I can bring the whole family, you know, now it's it's very family friendly to be a to be a to be a beans you know, don't do this, we'll talk about you know, but that's okay, Like it's very family like if they want, like they want families to be there. Now they want the game to be more integrally like inclusive of of like, oh, these girls are getting it and let's highlight these women.

I'll say it sellout crowds now, it's it's a fun time. I remember going to games when I was younger, it wasn't like that. And now that I can bring the whole family, you know, now it's it's very family friendly to be a to be a to be a beans you know, don't do this, we'll talk about you know, but that's okay, Like it's very family like if they want, like they want families to be there. Now they want the game to be more integrally like inclusive of of like, oh, these girls are getting it and let's highlight these women.

And now I mean probably like prominent.

And now I mean probably like prominent.

Social media has helped in a large way, sure, for sure, but it's also just like now you know your actual players, like we could talk about multiple players instead of like, oh I know Ryl, I know who else I know, Like there's like, instead of a Marquee player, now you know a team.

Social media has helped in a large way, sure, for sure, but it's also just like now you know your actual players, like we could talk about multiple players instead of like, oh I know Ryl, I know who else I know, Like there's like, instead of a Marquee player, now you know a team.

Well, it's it's everything from from social media. So fans feel like they have a connection with you, like fans feel like I know who you are through social media. But then it's also you bring your fan base from college, so they're gonna follow you. But to me, one of the biggest differences besides social.

Well, it's it's everything from from social media. So fans feel like they have a connection with you, like fans feel like I know who you are through social media. But then it's also you bring your fan base from college, so they're gonna follow you. But to me, one of the biggest differences besides social.

Media is the games are now on.

Media is the games are now on.

Television, They're in places where you can find them easily. Like back in the day when I played, we were on Lifetime.

Television, They're in places where you can find them easily. Like back in the day when I played, we were on Lifetime.

Don't la okayan.

Don't la okayan.

Like I gotta, I gotta, I got a grandma. We susedd we should say a Lifetime. You know that was all where all her movies came on Lifetime or Hallmark Originals, you know, like it was that was that was that era.

Like I gotta, I gotta, I got a grandma. We susedd we should say a Lifetime. You know that was all where all her movies came on Lifetime or Hallmark Originals, you know, like it was that was that was that era.

Listen and I'm like, we went from Lifetime to ESPN, ABC, ESPN two. Now we are on Ion, so you can get some you can get your Chicago PD and then you can go watch some w n B.

Listen and I'm like, we went from Lifetime to ESPN, ABC, ESPN two. Now we are on Ion, so you can get some you can get your Chicago PD and then you can go watch some w n B.

A see. That's Look, that's how much the game has evolved.

A see. That's Look, that's how much the game has evolved.

I mean, speaking of evolution and just reactions to that new question would could be hot incoming. I love doing this live because I need to know what do you think about this picture?

I mean, speaking of evolution and just reactions to that new question would could be hot incoming. I love doing this live because I need to know what do you think about this picture?

Coming up? Look up? Look up behind you? Yeah, go ahead check it out. I come on, Ma, I'm just saying, how do you how do you? How do you feel about this picture? Yeah?

Coming up? Look up? Look up behind you? Yeah, go ahead check it out. I come on, Ma, I'm just saying, how do you how do you? How do you feel about this picture? Yeah?

Come on man?

Come on man?

Nostalgia nostalgia dons Daley.

Nostalgia nostalgia dons Daley.

You know that was a Caroli head coach before or after the ninety six.

You know that was a Caroli head coach before or after the ninety six.

Eleve just obtaining another goal, hanging out with Martin.

Eleve just obtaining another goal, hanging out with Martin.

It was a fun time. I would tell you that much. It was a fun time to hang out, and they still show it.

It was a fun time. I would tell you that much. It was a fun time to hang out, and they still show it.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

I said that you see it.

I said that you see it.

Huh, that's what I'm saying.

Huh, that's what I'm saying.

You was on Martin Man like in the nineties, that big, that's that's legendary. Yeah, you didn't think you see that today? No, how to make you feel you remember that one?

You was on Martin Man like in the nineties, that big, that's that's legendary. Yeah, you didn't think you see that today? No, how to make you feel you remember that one?

It took me back a little bit. I every time I see different pictures, the first thing I look at is my hairstyle, and I'm like, what was I thinking in that picture?

It took me back a little bit. I every time I see different pictures, the first thing I look at is my hairstyle, and I'm like, what was I thinking in that picture?