On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam is joined by his teammate and follow pass rusher Carl Granderson during the Sack Summit in Las Vegas. The guys talk about Carl’s journey going from a 175-pound no position player at the University of Wyoming, to a 285-pound dominating sack artist in the NFL. Cam gives Carl his flowers for his development from a special teams player to one of the stalwarts on the Saints defensive line. Carl also explains why he felt attending the Sack Summit was important to improve his game, and what he wanted to learn from guys like Warren Sapp, Maxx Crosby, and Von Miller. Plus, Cam and Carl play a game of Super Bowl ring vs. $100 million dollars. All that, and much more, in a conversation you don’t want to miss.

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Radio.