On the latest Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast, Cam responds to comments from Philadelphia Eagles safety CJ Gardner-Johnson who called the Saints “pretenders not contenders.” Cam also takes time to address accusations that the Saints defense committed a dirty play against Eagles receiver DeVonta Smith. Cardinals’ All-Pro safety Budda Baker also joins Cam to discuss a wide range of topics. Budda breaks down how the Cardinals fair in the tough NFL West division, and the expectations he and QB Kyler Murray have for their squad. He also sheds light on why he calls the Nick Rallis defense the best he’s ever played in. Budda will be an unrestricted free agent after this season, and he shares with Cam whether the Cardinals fit into his playing future. And, who makes Budda’s Mount Rushmore of safeties? Tune in to find out. All this, and much more, in a conversation you don’t want to miss.

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