You know, time of it is here we got Jenny Graham, you know, just a guy who made it thirteen years in the league.

You know, time of it is here we got Jenny Graham, you know, just a guy who made it thirteen years in the league.

How many Pro Bowls?

How many Pro Bowls?

Too?

Too?

Damn many? How many All Pros? You know, he's got a.

Damn many? How many All Pros? You know, he's got a.

Few more than me, because I mean it is just a perennial Pro Bowl or just a guy who was a force to me record with not only with the Saints, Seattle and then other places, but he came back to the Saints, another place with Chicago Green Bay. But like again, he came back to the Saint and finished strong as the red zone target, as a man who ran routes, as a guy who I've seen over a thousand yards at tight end.

Few more than me, because I mean it is just a perennial Pro Bowl or just a guy who was a force to me record with not only with the Saints, Seattle and then other places, but he came back to the Saints, another place with Chicago Green Bay. But like again, he came back to the Saint and finished strong as the red zone target, as a man who ran routes, as a guy who I've seen over a thousand yards at tight end.

I don't know if your tight end can't do what he was doing.

I don't know if your tight end can't do what he was doing.

Really broke the mode in terms of basketball players, the tight ends like the Antonio Gates era, right, yeah, I mean when we think about, oh, like a big guy can move, wiggle around, but let's talk about the and can move. You know, you Q came into the league and guys sort of doubted your speed. I know, there there was there was There wasn't even a rumor there was an official race between DJ Williams of Old and Jimmy Graham.

Really broke the mode in terms of basketball players, the tight ends like the Antonio Gates era, right, yeah, I mean when we think about, oh, like a big guy can move, wiggle around, but let's talk about the and can move. You know, you Q came into the league and guys sort of doubted your speed. I know, there there was there was There wasn't even a rumor there was an official race between DJ Williams of Old and Jimmy Graham.

Jimmy who won that race.

Jimmy who won that race.

We're not gonna say what the monetary value of the race was over the rumors around.

We're not gonna say what the monetary value of the race was over the rumors around.

It, but who won the race?

It, but who won the race?

Oh well that was definitely me, absolutely.

Oh well that was definitely me, absolutely.

Absolutely, you know, and confirmed by multiple.

Absolutely, you know, and confirmed by multiple.

Others multiples because a lot of people were betting on it. But that started. I gave him three months to train for that. I was up like two seventy at the time, and I guess I ran like a four to four or something in that. Yeah, you got to for the money.

Others multiples because a lot of people were betting on it. But that started. I gave him three months to train for that. I was up like two seventy at the time, and I guess I ran like a four to four or something in that. Yeah, you got to for the money.

The money of pride, because at the time, you know, you're not to bet on anything like that. You know. Well, the things that I've never done in New Orleans is win a.

The money of pride, because at the time, you know, you're not to bet on anything like that. You know. Well, the things that I've never done in New Orleans is win a.

Super Bowl, you know, trust man, I know. Yeah, it's You're able to come in here and catch up a lot of people. But you know when the Super bowls in your hometown and and uh, you know, you sit here and you never had that experience of even playing in one. Yeah, I mean each yep, I mean you know, I went and you know, uh, let's say, like, you know, when I went to Green Bay, you know, my assisiant go to Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers, and I saw everything going on I was like, I'm just trying to look to who's gonna maybe be close to have an opportunity in Super Bowl, and you know it's it's uh yeah, I mean I took ten million less to go there, and because it wasn't about the money. It was about getting the opportunity to to go out on that field on a Sunday like this and and battle with your boys. And you know, it's just something that evaded me for thirteen years has abited you as well. And you know it it it can be annoying, that's for sure. Man.

Super Bowl, you know, trust man, I know. Yeah, it's You're able to come in here and catch up a lot of people. But you know when the Super bowls in your hometown and and uh, you know, you sit here and you never had that experience of even playing in one. Yeah, I mean each yep, I mean you know, I went and you know, uh, let's say, like, you know, when I went to Green Bay, you know, my assisiant go to Green Bay, Aaron Rodgers, and I saw everything going on I was like, I'm just trying to look to who's gonna maybe be close to have an opportunity in Super Bowl, and you know it's it's uh yeah, I mean I took ten million less to go there, and because it wasn't about the money. It was about getting the opportunity to to go out on that field on a Sunday like this and and battle with your boys. And you know, it's just something that evaded me for thirteen years has abited you as well. And you know it it it can be annoying, that's for sure. Man.

You know that that is the ultimate prize in our in our profession. And as you look at it, you know, you you went thirteen and you went to a couple of teams and like you know, saw playoffs.

You know that that is the ultimate prize in our in our profession. And as you look at it, you know, you you went thirteen and you went to a couple of teams and like you know, saw playoffs.

Yeah, I mean Seattle. Right when I went there, Legion a boom Era. Uh, you know, what more could we want? We had the best running back in the game at the time. You know, Russ was playing well. Uh, we had a ton of receivers and the defense was just absolute beasts. So you know, I mean that's why you when I got traded, it was like, well, I'm still going to a playoff team and I have an opportunity, so you know, I'm trying to make that work. And but you know, you could chase it all you want to, and sometimes you know, it's just those those chips don't lay down as it should. Right.

Yeah, I mean Seattle. Right when I went there, Legion a boom Era. Uh, you know, what more could we want? We had the best running back in the game at the time. You know, Russ was playing well. Uh, we had a ton of receivers and the defense was just absolute beasts. So you know, I mean that's why you when I got traded, it was like, well, I'm still going to a playoff team and I have an opportunity, so you know, I'm trying to make that work. And but you know, you could chase it all you want to, and sometimes you know, it's just those those chips don't lay down as it should. Right.

Beyond that, going going through multiple teams, do you pick up new hates like as as as the Saints, Sueeze typically go out a way to hate the Falcons, and the Falcons.

Beyond that, going going through multiple teams, do you pick up new hates like as as as the Saints, Sueeze typically go out a way to hate the Falcons, and the Falcons.

Typically go out their way to hate us.

Typically go out their way to hate us.

Yeah, you go to Seattle, did you do you hate the Cardinals the Rams? Do do you find a hate or is it just you?

Yeah, you go to Seattle, did you do you hate the Cardinals the Rams? Do do you find a hate or is it just you?

You It depends on how long you're there, so you eventually do find some type of hate, you know, like for US sanfraan right, Seattle with Sanfra always was uh you know, especially that defense. You know, were always trying to show up and do kind of do our thing when it in Green Bay. Uh, you know, the the hate there between Minnesota Minnesota is then, you know, especially when Zen was there and that defense. Uh, you know, sometimes the way they were playing a little dirty and how it was you know, so that those games were always so intens especially when we go to Minnesota. But yeah, you have new but I had never faced anything like it was since Falcons. You know, that was just we don't like you. We're going out here saying stuff in the media, We're gonna see here and then try to embarrass you, and you know, there's there's no friends on the other.

You It depends on how long you're there, so you eventually do find some type of hate, you know, like for US sanfraan right, Seattle with Sanfra always was uh you know, especially that defense. You know, were always trying to show up and do kind of do our thing when it in Green Bay. Uh, you know, the the hate there between Minnesota Minnesota is then, you know, especially when Zen was there and that defense. Uh, you know, sometimes the way they were playing a little dirty and how it was you know, so that those games were always so intens especially when we go to Minnesota. But yeah, you have new but I had never faced anything like it was since Falcons. You know, that was just we don't like you. We're going out here saying stuff in the media, We're gonna see here and then try to embarrass you, and you know, there's there's no friends on the other.

Side, right, You're like, I see you, and also I hate you. Yeah, I hope, I hope you don't die. But also I'm trying to.

Side, right, You're like, I see you, and also I hate you. Yeah, I hope, I hope you don't die. But also I'm trying to.

Get exactly exactly.

Get exactly exactly.

Exactly I mean, are you still doing the Archer Challenge?

Exactly I mean, are you still doing the Archer Challenge?

Yes, we talked about this now officially now like two years ago in a hot tub. You're like, yeah, man, me and my guys we're gonna And I was looking at you, like, well, we're sitting in the hot tubs, so this doesn't make sense for me to ever be in anything cold. I know you've been training. I mean last time, last time I saw you had like road rash.

Yes, we talked about this now officially now like two years ago in a hot tub. You're like, yeah, man, me and my guys we're gonna And I was looking at you, like, well, we're sitting in the hot tubs, so this doesn't make sense for me to ever be in anything cold. I know you've been training. I mean last time, last time I saw you had like road rash.

Yeah, yeah, I got so I was I just started. Yeah, I just started my training for the row and I got a bike accident, missed like I was missing half my skin. So I wasn't even allowed to train for this row. So while I was on this boat, this was last week, so we had our first open sea trial for the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, and I'm sitting there missing half my skin on my leg, like my hands are missing skin.

Yeah, yeah, I got so I was I just started. Yeah, I just started my training for the row and I got a bike accident, missed like I was missing half my skin. So I wasn't even allowed to train for this row. So while I was on this boat, this was last week, so we had our first open sea trial for the Arctic Challenge twenty twenty five, and I'm sitting there missing half my skin on my leg, like my hands are missing skin.

We sat down the lunch and I'm just like, what happened?

We sat down the lunch and I'm just like, what happened?

Yeah? Brutal, brutal. So you know, I'm managing that, trying to make sure stuff doesn't get infected. And then we're sitting on this boat for two overnights Miami, Alamarada to Miami. And where's Alamarada? Don't just the words out there that I understand. That's a that's in the keys. It's right right above Marathon keys. Yeah, yeah, Flota keys. And so I burned nine thousand calories a day as we're out there. Uh, And I mean we learned a lot on the sea trial, but yeah, the biggest thing I learned is this is just going to be brutal. You know, I was sleeping broken sleep through. I was a night because you can only sleep for fifty minutes at a time, So basically I went nine to eleven the first night. Then alarm went off. I switch out with Andrew. I do some navigation and stuff, make sure our way point's good, get some food in me, lay down for a little bit. Finally, fifty minutes alarm goes off. I wake back up. Now it's one o'clock. I crawl out of this like little hot box of a thing. It's kind of chilly outside, kind of cold. And then you sit and jump on this row, sit for two hours in a row, and then you do that again, which would be that's five o'clock. And that's just NonStop. The boat is always moving twenty four to seven.

Yeah? Brutal, brutal. So you know, I'm managing that, trying to make sure stuff doesn't get infected. And then we're sitting on this boat for two overnights Miami, Alamarada to Miami. And where's Alamarada? Don't just the words out there that I understand. That's a that's in the keys. It's right right above Marathon keys. Yeah, yeah, Flota keys. And so I burned nine thousand calories a day as we're out there. Uh, And I mean we learned a lot on the sea trial, but yeah, the biggest thing I learned is this is just going to be brutal. You know, I was sleeping broken sleep through. I was a night because you can only sleep for fifty minutes at a time, So basically I went nine to eleven the first night. Then alarm went off. I switch out with Andrew. I do some navigation and stuff, make sure our way point's good, get some food in me, lay down for a little bit. Finally, fifty minutes alarm goes off. I wake back up. Now it's one o'clock. I crawl out of this like little hot box of a thing. It's kind of chilly outside, kind of cold. And then you sit and jump on this row, sit for two hours in a row, and then you do that again, which would be that's five o'clock. And that's just NonStop. The boat is always moving twenty four to seven.

How much communication is going on between you and your your boat mates shipmates teammates.

How much communication is going on between you and your your boat mates shipmates teammates.

Yeah, quite a bit. Like so I'm rowing with hand on normally, so you know, we're always chatting and talking and saying so there's music playing, but at night it's just pure silence and all you can hear is the oars for two straight hours. Yeah, this is and you know, because you're you're facing the other way right that the boat's going, and so you're just looking at the back of a wall and these numbers. Do you have a cocksmith and no, no, no, I've got a little now Cox Cox Coxon Cox. We had one for the head of the trials obviously because he's got a steer. But yeah, for this, you know, it's me. You know, I'm the lead navigator, so I got to make sure we don't you know that we get from point into point B.

Yeah, quite a bit. Like so I'm rowing with hand on normally, so you know, we're always chatting and talking and saying so there's music playing, but at night it's just pure silence and all you can hear is the oars for two straight hours. Yeah, this is and you know, because you're you're facing the other way right that the boat's going, and so you're just looking at the back of a wall and these numbers. Do you have a cocksmith and no, no, no, I've got a little now Cox Cox Coxon Cox. We had one for the head of the trials obviously because he's got a steer. But yeah, for this, you know, it's me. You know, I'm the lead navigator, so I got to make sure we don't you know that we get from point into point B.

Why you're sleep for for an hour fifty minutes of so what the hell you mean? Fifty for two days straight? And then when this when when this challenge how happens? How many days is that?

Why you're sleep for for an hour fifty minutes of so what the hell you mean? Fifty for two days straight? And then when this when when this challenge how happens? How many days is that?

The world records fifteen days four hours? So this will be NonStop like that, but only that the boat but brother, yeah, trust me, bro, this boat is so tippy, like you know, it's built for speed. So if one person walks on one side, the whole boat's tipping over.

The world records fifteen days four hours? So this will be NonStop like that, but only that the boat but brother, yeah, trust me, bro, this boat is so tippy, like you know, it's built for speed. So if one person walks on one side, the whole boat's tipping over.

Are you supposed to sleep through that?

Are you supposed to sleep through that?

Yeah? I mean we'll waves like so up there in the Arctic, it's the average temperature in July is going to be thirty five forty, the water temperatures twenty eight. The winds are seventeen to twenty six knots and gusting thirty five forty something, and the swells can get up to sixteen feet.

Yeah? I mean we'll waves like so up there in the Arctic, it's the average temperature in July is going to be thirty five forty, the water temperatures twenty eight. The winds are seventeen to twenty six knots and gusting thirty five forty something, and the swells can get up to sixteen feet.

So one day you woke up and was like, you know what, this coolball is too easy for me. I've had too much success. My business is booming off the field. You know what, what is going to challenge? Me.

So one day you woke up and was like, you know what, this coolball is too easy for me. I've had too much success. My business is booming off the field. You know what, what is going to challenge? Me.

I already fly helicopters and planes. You know what, the Arctic? How do you even have a dream to say the Arctic?

I already fly helicopters and planes. You know what, the Arctic? How do you even have a dream to say the Arctic?

I never had a dream about this. This is all from my boy. My boy, he graduated from Cambridge guys NBA. We're at a pub. He's always want to roll across the ocean. He basically convinces me after a couple of drinks, of course, and now yeah, oh wait, that's usually how it gets involved. Yeah, and and and so now I'm run across the ocean. But it's cool because we do have the opportunity to raise quite a bit of money. We're gonna do this thing called the Million Meters Challenge where we're gonna try to raise a dollar per meter, which will be a million meters to support the charities that were here, which is Laws and the Covenant House. Covenant House. They they shelter, it's a it's a homeless shelter for kids twenty two and lower, and then Lauris introduces kids into sports. So it's for a good cause, but it's gonna be the hardest and most protal thing I've ever done.

I never had a dream about this. This is all from my boy. My boy, he graduated from Cambridge guys NBA. We're at a pub. He's always want to roll across the ocean. He basically convinces me after a couple of drinks, of course, and now yeah, oh wait, that's usually how it gets involved. Yeah, and and and so now I'm run across the ocean. But it's cool because we do have the opportunity to raise quite a bit of money. We're gonna do this thing called the Million Meters Challenge where we're gonna try to raise a dollar per meter, which will be a million meters to support the charities that were here, which is Laws and the Covenant House. Covenant House. They they shelter, it's a it's a homeless shelter for kids twenty two and lower, and then Lauris introduces kids into sports. So it's for a good cause, but it's gonna be the hardest and most protal thing I've ever done.

Yeah, yeah, that just sounds amazing for me. Sleeping waking up going oh, you know, because you're going to be lack of sleep, oh beyond I mean it will be a good person when I get angry, let alone, like lack of.

Yeah, yeah, that just sounds amazing for me. Sleeping waking up going oh, you know, because you're going to be lack of sleep, oh beyond I mean it will be a good person when I get angry, let alone, like lack of.

Sleep, oh man, and then making right decisions. Right. So that's one of the things is like this mind gym really understanding training the mind because I'm gonna weather calms and I have to set a route and I've got to make sure that route's good. So yeah, it's gonna be serious. All right.

Sleep, oh man, and then making right decisions. Right. So that's one of the things is like this mind gym really understanding training the mind because I'm gonna weather calms and I have to set a route and I've got to make sure that route's good. So yeah, it's gonna be serious. All right.

So when you get into serious training, this happens in ju said July.

So when you get into serious training, this happens in ju said July.

Yeah, so we leave in June, we wait for the weather window, it'll be July. Our next seat trial is in March, and then the boat get shipped off. Jeez. Yeah, this is this is insane. So there's only been sixteen people to ever do this route ever. Yeah, so there's been more people to walk on the Moon than have attempted to row this route. That's how dangerous this is.

Yeah, so we leave in June, we wait for the weather window, it'll be July. Our next seat trial is in March, and then the boat get shipped off. Jeez. Yeah, this is this is insane. So there's only been sixteen people to ever do this route ever. Yeah, so there's been more people to walk on the Moon than have attempted to row this route. That's how dangerous this is.

Wow.

Wow.

All right, but at least you're you're doing it for a good cause. Million meters possibly over a million dollars, you know.

All right, but at least you're you're doing it for a good cause. Million meters possibly over a million dollars, you know.

Yeah, we're hoping, I mean, because all this is happening, you know, to change the lives of kids here locally in New Orleans, kids who have been through a lot, who just need opportunities, and this is going to help provide those things.

Yeah, we're hoping, I mean, because all this is happening, you know, to change the lives of kids here locally in New Orleans, kids who have been through a lot, who just need opportunities, and this is going to help provide those things.

What are you what are you most excited about on this challenge? And what are you most worried about in this challenge? Okay, that you have the apparently the nautical experience to now be.

What are you what are you most excited about on this challenge? And what are you most worried about in this challenge? Okay, that you have the apparently the nautical experience to now be.

The navigator, Yeah, I would say them uh leaving Trump SA, we have to get out of the Fjords, which is gonna be very dangerous Felds. But yet we're still in the Fjords, so that's gonna be absolutely beautiful.

The navigator, Yeah, I would say them uh leaving Trump SA, we have to get out of the Fjords, which is gonna be very dangerous Felds. But yet we're still in the Fjords, so that's gonna be absolutely beautiful.

The only time I've ever heard fjords is in the TV show The Vikings.

The only time I've ever heard fjords is in the TV show The Vikings.

Yeah continue, Yeah, I mean basically they play. And then not only that, the glacier is that we're going to is uh, you know, home to polar bears and all these other things. So being able to see that's going to be pretty cool. The biggest thing I'm looking forward to is my first meal after this is over, and how much food I'm gonna eat right is going to be out of control. But the biggest worries of this thing, there's a lot. Yeah, the water maker has to work, so We've got to get that dialed in because it's colder up there, so the density of the water is different. So you have to reset this water maker to be able to clean that type of salt water. And you have to understand that. So that's a problem. I keep going too, apparently up there in the cabin because they got to be completely sealed, because that's the only reason, that's the only way the boat, if it rolls over, won't sink.

Yeah continue, Yeah, I mean basically they play. And then not only that, the glacier is that we're going to is uh, you know, home to polar bears and all these other things. So being able to see that's going to be pretty cool. The biggest thing I'm looking forward to is my first meal after this is over, and how much food I'm gonna eat right is going to be out of control. But the biggest worries of this thing, there's a lot. Yeah, the water maker has to work, so We've got to get that dialed in because it's colder up there, so the density of the water is different. So you have to reset this water maker to be able to clean that type of salt water. And you have to understand that. So that's a problem. I keep going too, apparently up there in the cabin because they got to be completely sealed, because that's the only reason, that's the only way the boat, if it rolls over, won't sink.

Well.

Well.

When they're sealed, you run out of oxygen in there, and because of your body heat, it creates like conversation everywhere. So this one team that did it, they had about a foot of water in the cabinet that they were sleeping in for like a month on.

When they're sealed, you run out of oxygen in there, and because of your body heat, it creates like conversation everywhere. So this one team that did it, they had about a foot of water in the cabinet that they were sleeping in for like a month on.

Oh yeah, I don't understand the intrigue for a man who has jumped out of planes, for a man who's flown those planes, for a man who has a trick plane and flown with the Blue Angels.

Oh yeah, I don't understand the intrigue for a man who has jumped out of planes, for a man who's flown those planes, for a man who has a trick plane and flown with the Blue Angels.

And I'm just like, I'm gonna just like.

And I'm just like, I'm gonna just like.

Give you your flowers now because apparently you're you're going this is the last reckless feet.

Give you your flowers now because apparently you're you're going this is the last reckless feet.

That I have to like no, no, no, no, no, well.

That I have to like no, no, no, no, no, well.

Me, no, no, no, no, no, there's nothing more reckless than like, okay, so there's the moon next.

Me, no, no, no, no, no, there's nothing more reckless than like, okay, so there's the moon next.

No, it's all about mitigating risks, which we're doing constantly. That's why I've been so.

No, it's all about mitigating risks, which we're doing constantly. That's why I've been so.

Busy mitigating risks.

Busy mitigating risks.

Would be like, hey, let me not take my ass onto THETIC challenge. But you're doing it for the kids, and I can't fight that.

Would be like, hey, let me not take my ass onto THETIC challenge. But you're doing it for the kids, and I can't fight that.

Part of it.

Part of it.

That's problem is I'm too far into this point. So we're all in on this. And not only that, but some of the issues of weather, we're gonna get hit by a weather system.

That's problem is I'm too far into this point. So we're all in on this. And not only that, but some of the issues of weather, we're gonna get hit by a weather system.

I'll get to escort with this, Like is there gonna be something like if you have to bail you.

I'll get to escort with this, Like is there gonna be something like if you have to bail you.

That is the biggest issue. The biggest issue is because we're going after world records, you cannot have a boat following you, so it's unassisted. Well, we'll be up there completely.

That is the biggest issue. The biggest issue is because we're going after world records, you cannot have a boat following you, so it's unassisted. Well, we'll be up there completely.

Like you had to say, there's other worries. Now, that is the biggest worry. If I need help, there is no help.

Like you had to say, there's other worries. Now, that is the biggest worry. If I need help, there is no help.

Well, all those other well, all those other things.

Well, all those other well, all those other things.

That's why you like because like some some people are like, man, I don't know if I can swim like that.

That's why you like because like some some people are like, man, I don't know if I can swim like that.

Well, I mean like I'm technically going to be the first light skin ever up there. So you know that's where record.

Well, I mean like I'm technically going to be the first light skin ever up there. So you know that's where record.

I okay, yeah yeah, somebody gotta fight back for Drake.

I okay, yeah yeah, somebody gotta fight back for Drake.

Yeah, I have too. I'm gonna do my best. Well.

Yeah, I have too. I'm gonna do my best. Well.

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