EP #15: On this episode Off the Edge with Cam Jordan, Cam is joined by his fellow 2011 Draft class alum Cam Heyward of the Steelers. It’s never a dull moment with these two, as Cam Jordan throws his support for the Walter Payton Man of the Year award to Cam Heyward, who’s nominated, over his teammate Tyrann Mathieu. They also discuss why they think player grades and sack numbers are flawed. Cam Heyward projects his chances at winning a Super Bowl as his career winds down in Pittsburgh, and both Cams discuss how they’ve maintained their success in their 13th seasons. Also, Cam Jordan sounds off on the “Earthing” phenomenon.

0:00 – show starts

0:40 – Cam teases what’s to come on the episode

1:08 – Cam on Falcons receiver Mack Hollins “Earthing” or “Grounding” before Sunday’s game  

3:05 – Cam recaps the Saints win over the Giants

6:24 – Cam previews the Saints vs Rams game on Thursday Night Football

9:25 – break  

10:25 – Cam Heyward interview starts

13:59 – Cam Heyward on being the Steelers Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee

18:36 – Cam Heyward on his philanthropy

19:38 – Cam Heyward on why playing in Pittsburgh is special

20:32 – Both Cams on why being a complete defender is more important than sack numbers

22:27 – Cam Heyward on his prospects for winning a Super Bowl

24:11 – Both Cams on overcoming injuries this season

25:52 – Cam Jordan gives Cam Heyward his flowers for his play

27:00 – Cam Heyward on his favorite rush move

28:12 – Both Cams on their longevity

30:53 – Both Cams on the flawed perception of sacks  

32:46 – Both Cams on the 2011 Draft class

42:50 – Cam Heyward on his podcast “Not Just Football with Cam Heyward”

44:50 – Cam Heyward ends

46:27 – Show ends

*NOTE: Time codes are approximate

The Off the Edge with Cam Jordan podcast is a production of the NFL in partnership with iHeart Radio.