In this episode of Normally, hosts Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz explore the growing divide between online outrage and real-world community. They break down the political fallout from a recent Vanity Fair interview with Susie Wiles, analyze JD Vance’s sharp responses to media criticism about the article, and discuss the broader implications of the Mar-a-Lago raid. The episode also touches on how political narratives are shaped by elite media versus everyday experience. To close things out, Mary Katharine and Karol take a lighter turn, examining the viral “6-7” trend among kids and why fostering in-person, communal activities still matters more than ever.

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