On this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz break down the latest in the U.S.–Iran conflict and the administration’s argument that the operation is delivering air supremacy and rapid results. They react to Secretary of War's Pete Hegseth and Gen. Dan “Razin” Caine, discuss the media narrative vs. operational success, and dig into Marco Rubio’s explanation of why the U.S. moved now—and why claims that “Israel forced America into war” don’t hold up.

They also look at early public opinion: how support changes depending on whether Americans believe the conflict will last days, weeks, months, or years, and why that matters politically. Plus, they note the real cost of war, honoring the American troops killed in Kuwait and the families left behind.

Then it’s politics: the shockwaves from Texas primaries, including James Talarico defeating Jasmine Crockett in the Democratic Senate primary, Cornyn vs. Paxton heading to a GOP runoff, and Dan Crenshaw losing his primary. Mary Katharine and Karol debate “electability vs. bombast,” what Latino-heavy counties turning out in a Democratic primary could signal, and how Trump endorsements may shape the next round.

The conversation also touches the early 2028 terrain—Gavin Newsom’s Israel comments, the left’s growing comfort with “apartheid” rhetoric, and why Democrats may be steering into an intraparty fight over America’s closest Middle East ally. They flag a Virginia storyline too: why “moderate” branding may not survive hard questions on crime and immigration enforcement.

Finally, they close with a major Supreme Court development: the Court granting relief to California parents challenging school policies around social transition and parental notification—why the justices signaled parents are likely to win on religious exercise and the right to direct the upbringing and education of their children.