In this episode of Normally, Mary Katharine Ham & Karol Markowicz break down the growing fallout from the ongoing Department of Homeland Security (DHS) funding standoff—and how it’s impacting everyday Americans.
From airport chaos and TSA staffing shortages to political gridlock in Washington, Mary Katharine Ham and Karol Markowicz unpack how the shutdown battle is disrupting travel and exposing deeper divisions over immigration enforcement and federal funding priorities.
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Plus, a candid conversation on crime, accountability, and how policy decisions are shaping public safety debates nationwide.

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