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EXCLUSIVE: Mackenzie Arnold, Defence Minister Of Australia

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It’s been a big year for Mackenzie Arnold. She’s gone from being able to walk down the street without getting recognised to being approached on the street by strangers.

In her first podcast interview since the FIFA World Cup, Mackenzie sits down with Mia Freedman to chat about it all. From having the whole country thanking you for what you did, to pre game rituals, superstitions and playing with your best mates.
You’re not going to want to miss this chat…


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Host: Mia Freedman. You can find Mia on Instagram here and get her newsletter here.

Executive Producer: Kimberley Braddish & Elissa Ratliff

Audio Producer: Madeline Joannou

Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land we have recorded this podcast on, the Gadigal people of the Eora Nation. We pay our respects to their Elders past and present, and extend that respect to all Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander cultures.

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