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Nightcap - Hour 2: Luka talks title run, Kevin Durant & the Suns miss the playoffs, Anthony Edwards answers the challenge.

Published Apr 18, 2025, 2:58 AM

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the best hoops stories of the week, including Luka saying the Lakers have the team to make a title run, Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & the Suns missing the playoffs, Anthony Edwards being crowned NBA three-point leader for the season, & much more!

04:45 - Anthony Edwards answered the challenge
13:30 - Luka says Lakers have the team to make a title run
21:00 - Luka trade compared to Babe Ruth trade
29:00 - Devin Booker, Kevin Durant & Suns miss playoffs
45:00 - Unc and Ocho answer your NBA questions

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He's not like an on ball defender.

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Are you gonna be that third move or Yeah.

So he tied Ben Wallace because Ben Wallace has four also and we tumb okay, so it's gonna be a very interesting matchup. But uh, maliek. You told Ad he needs three to beat you, and he gonna get enough shots up. He shot ag He shot eighteen threes. They shot forty three and had eighteen of the forty three. He had seven of the thirteen mates. But now they got what they wanted. They're the sixth seed. They get the Lakers. What is the series star?

You know when the series start Saturday, Sunday, hey from playing. So they're playing.

So they're not they're not starting before Monday, I mean Sunday.

They don't have to schedule eight.

They don't have the schedule out because yeah, it's contingent on because the playing teams. You don't want them to you want to give them affair because so probably the four or five matchups on both sides of the three six matchups, they'll probably go out first. Because those guys will have forgotten all the rest. They don't play it somebody from the you know the seven, eight and the nine tens, right, So that's probably how it's gonna go.

That's that's a good that's a good thing that we don't know when they play.

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Hold on, let me let me talk to you real quick, let me talk to you.

I think it would be cool.

Right, It's one thing we do the show, right, but we don't really get a chance to really spend time together. Now, we have great chemistry on camera. Now let's let's let's continue that in person, sitting courtside and doing what the Fellas do. We could be like life, remember Martin, Remember Martin and Edie Percy, you know yeah, Clauda right like like, no no cameras, no, just just two Fellers kicking back watching the game, you know, you know, enjoying it, talking basketball.

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You gonna pay something, You gonna play something with my money. Chat. You just said, I'm not. I'm on now.

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Luca Fairs, the Legers have the team to make a title run. Oh Joe, do you believe it? Absolutely? Absolutely, he's supposed to say that.

He's Listen, if he was, you said, Luca, right, let me, let me, let me, let me make sure I give my parents right. Listen, if Lucas said it for a reason, he already did it with Dallas. He already did it with Dallas. And then he has the greatest player of all time, you know, playing alongside of him. If you get everybody else to contribute, and the bench shows up when they need to show up, there's a possibility it can be done. Now, I think one of the issues that we're going to run into. Look, I'm talking about weed. Listen, I'm a Heat fan. I'm just saying we for continuity based on talking about the Lakers and what Luke had to say. If the bench shows up, I think the only issue we will have is the fact that they don't have a big huh and depending on who they play, styles and matchups are very important in the seven game series, very important.

Don't have a big Minnesota doesn't have a big that you could like. Rudy Gobert is not gonna hurt you because they don't have to run place. Now, You're gonna have to keep him off the glass because he could rebound and give you a second chance opportunities there.

It is that that might be a problem because we don't have nobody to who do we Why do I keep saying we got damn it? Who do we have that cont to keep him rent them from getting having sex, second chance, second shot chances.

Jack Day's.

That's my that's my due, and you know that's coach hayes Son.

Huh what coach.

My tight end coach for the base.

It gotten today? Yes, that's just fun. Yeah Thingue I was with it he was.

I think, if I'm not mistakeing, I think he was at Kansas City when I was in the league.

Yeah, I didn't know that.

Matter of fact, I got the picture what I got the picture with uh with with uh little Hayes right he was about he was yay about short.

I didn't know that, O yo.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, matter of fact, I only knew because the same night, when was it the Lakers played Philly when when god damn, Pat Beverley was there, Pat Bell was coming over to talk to me, and Jackson Hayes came up first, and it pissed Pat off. So Pat walked off and I looked, I'm like, wait a minute, why don't you.

You And I didn't know he was in the NBA. He's like yeah. I asked him how Pop was doing?

Pop was doing good. I'm like, this, man, he's not coaching Cincinnati, is he? No?

No, No, he's not the Cincinnati know Zach Taylor. That makes a completely different staff, completely different.

Top to bottom.

Yeah, but I think it's gonna be a great I think it's uh look, Luca Lebron and uh Ar, that should be plenty of offense. Guys just got to play the role. You need us it.

Phinney Smith, you need van do when they come in. They need you a job.

Hey, and man gonna get his points, but you just gotta make it difficult. You gotta make him exert yourself as much as you possibly can, because so that's gonna be on Luca, that's gonna be on Ar.

You gotta make him work.

You gotta make it, make him exhaust himself on one end the court. You can't let it rest. He's not gonna play Lebron. Lebron's too big. So somebody's gotta guard Luca. And so if I'm looking at the pull back up, let me see her pull it up right quick, sugar. They possibly put on Luca. Uh oh box score trying to figure ot who they're gonna put on Luca.

Nah, not that.

And on that game. Oh here it is right here. See what they could put on Luca Jade Jade McDaniels, Well, he can only guard one. Julius Rander will probably take Lebron. Jade McDaniels is gonna have to tak guard Luca Luca or he's gonna have to guard Aar.

And that means what do you call it? A man, gonna have to guard the other one. Mm hmm. I'm excited. Man.

I'm gonna say, listen, listen, just sitting here talking about it, man, with you back and forth.

Man, you you got to want to.

Actually be there in person, man, because I think the chat with the chat would enjoy that, the chat would enjoy it, just just just you and I at the game. I just oh, man, I'm excited. I got I got chills talking about it. Man, I can't wait.

Oh, it's gonna be a great one.

It's gonna it's gonna be yeah, yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a great, great series. I'm hoping for a great series. Hopefully everybody stays healthy and you get the job done. But uh, I don't think you can really. I think this is a this is a great matchup. You got Lebron, Luca, and you got add Man. Yes, sir, you can't. You can't ask for anything more than that. Then you got a young star, you got Lebron. We know what he is in the playoffs. All the records for the for the most part, uh ten NBA finals, four, championships four, m VP's first in point scores, second of assists. You know, up there rebounds up there in block shots and all that.

So this is a great matchup. I can't can't wait to see it.

Probably not gonna get kicked off before Sunday of next week. I can see maybe Saturday, maybe Saturday, but I'm thinking Sunday.

Huh.

Actually, although we haven't we haven't seen it yet, so.

Oh Joe. Jason Kidd says there some are comparing.

The Babe Ruth Luca with ad. They're preparing that trade to when Babe Ruth. The Red Sox traded Babe Route to the Yankees four hundred thousand dollars because the owner wanted to finance a movie, which is kind of cool in regards to the Luca trade.

I mean, if the Yankees is pretty cool. Not if you're the Red Sox.

Eighty years. You with eighty years and you was cursed. So I don't know the prism or the lens in which j Kidd is looking at this through, but he's on the wrong end of this trade currently. So for the Yankees, yes, it's very cool. Excuse me, For the Lakers, it's very cool like it was for the Yankees because they got Babe Ruth. They traded Babe Ruth. There was an eighty year stretch where it wasn't cool.

It wasn't good.

And I think the lens that he's looking at it from, he's looking at it on how great Babe Ruth was not only they left the Red Sox Red Sox, but what he was able to do for the Yankees once he got there.

And I think Jason.

King can also see long term the visual effects of having Luca and how consistent he's gonna be with the Lakers.

And it's almost a shot as its own organization.

Huh. Yeah, it's a shot.

At his own organization, because how could we do this where you're comparing the trade of Luca to the Lakers to that of Babe Roots leaving the Red Sox to go to the Yankees.

Yeah, because we know what he did for the Yankees. It catapulted him and put him in a stratosphere. And they now as part in terms of baseball, they're the number one baseball team. And I mean, hey, the Yankee pin strikes nobody else. Nobody else has a Yankee pen strike, or has a signature or or Seville fable role, whatever you want to call it, where they're named after something like man them a Yankee pinstripe. Nobody else has that Bay Route trade Boston and New York for cash University regarded it's one of the worst sports trades in history. The Yankees became the Yankees. The Red Sox Cups suffer the curse of the Bambino by not winning the World Series for eighty six years. I don't know if the Dallas fans are going to be happy if they don't win a championship for eighty six years.

Well, it's likely looking to going down that way unless there're some someone magical comes along in free agency. Someone magical comes along. That's the one that's a one and done. In college, it ain't looking too pretty well.

Let's let's see what happened when Kyrie gets back.

Hey stop, When Kyrie gets back ad with the team they have They have Gaffer, they have Lively. They got three live, active bodies that you can play a d at the four now when you really need him. You can play him at the five late in the ball game, which he likes to be, which plays his best when he's at the four.

But he can play the five last five minutes of the ball game. So you got three active big with gafferd A D and Lively.

Likely it's likely Lively Lively there h yeah, Lively the second. So once you get him, Kyrie Nick Marshall has played really well.

Let's see Clay. Clay has had some really good games. He's been off.

Obviously, we know Clay is not what he was was, but he can get hot, he can catch fire.

Yeah, definitely, So let's see right now, it's really not the time.

I know everybody's looking at the trade of a vacuum because what the lake, since what Luca is doing for the Lakers, and especially what he did last night, Let's give this trade a year or two then we can really assess it, says okay, because what happens if the marriage are in the finals? What happens if they turned this thing around? So no, I think with Kyrie, I think with Kyrie Ojo. We know Kyrie is a is A is an All Star and today was as all NBA and an All Star. So two of those guys, with the teams that they got, obviously they they can probably make some moves. Now what have to say? They don't make a movie could possibly laying KD. Now are you still upset?

No? I'm not Kyrie and ad.

Hold on, we keep talking about Kyrie listening.

I love Kyrie.

I love everything that he does right, everything that he can do, especially being one of the greatest dribblers and great dribblers of the ball and be able to create his own shot.

BUTNK, he's coming off of ACL tire. Do we know what Kyrie we're getting coming off of that?

Can he come back and still have the same lateral movement, the same quickness, still be able to do the same things he did that made him special when he has a ball in his hands.

We don't know that yet.

I believe he will, considering with the way medicine is and the way these guys come back now. It used to be a death sentence when you had an ac L back in the seventy maybe even the eighties. But now with the way medicine is, oh Jo, these guys coming back in seven eight months now basketball players, they normally air on the side of caution, sir, So it probably he probably won't be back until after the new year, So twenty six possibly would be the earliest that you're gonna see Kyrie. But I have no doubt in my mind that he's gonna come back and be the same Kyrie. He's still gonna be dynamic, he's still gonna be electric.

Uh.

And now you pair him with a d and who knows what they're gonna do there. I don't believe they're standing pat obviously. Look, there's a reports out there that they're Uh, the sons are gonna have to do something because the way they're constructed, even with KD, even with Book, even with Bradley Bill, they're gonna miss the playoffs. They're not even in the play in So you can't keep this team the same, right, you're paying three hundred plus million dollars. You got three hundred plus million dollars tied up in three guys, and you missed the playoff in its entirety.

You gotta blow it up. You gotta blow it up. KD is leaving. I know that, Yeah, KD.

Bill, I mean you gotta get you gotta move on because it's not it's not it's not working.

It hasn't worked. Uh.

And when they as a matter of fact, when they made the playoffs, if I'm not mistaken, I think they got swept. So you get swept. You missed the playoffs. It's it's over. Yeah, it's over. So let's see what Let's see what they do. But yeah, j Kidd, I don't know. I mean, you look at this thing. I think you look at it upside down. Had you got Luca, you could say, yeah, we can compare this. But y'allship Luca out. So I guarantee you The Red Sox weren't that once Babe Ruth started knocking the ball over the fence and they started winning World Series. Yeah, I don't think they were just happy. Yeah, they thought they were gonna be Yeah, you gotta you gotta look at it.

Though.

For Jason Kidd to say what he's saying as a head coach of the Dallas Mavericks, it just tells you how special Luca was to where you're you're even using that in comparison to that trade that long ago. Again, it's it's it's a it's a low blowing it's a shot at management. How could you do something like this? How could you have a trade of this magnitude, Because he's comparing it to that of Bathing leaving the Red Sox.

Right and us. The thing is Lucas twenty six. He didn't ask to be traded. Babe. Ruth didn't ask to be traded.

You know, the owner wanted to financial play and he needed money, and hey, it happened, and they traded. If I'm probably mistaken them because they're in the same division now, I don't know if they were back then, but you traded him to a division rival. So it's crazy that it happened. But hey, I don't know if crazier things have happened, But we'll see. I think you'll have to give this deal. I can't look at it this year. How he got hurt. Ad was hurt for a large part of a large stretch. I think he missed twenty plus games after he got there, played great the first three quarters of a game and with outstanding and then he got injured and he missed some time. So let's see over the next two to three years how this trade play out, because we might look at it.

Hey might look at it totally different, yeh.

Devin Booker spoke about the Suns missing the play in He said, it's been a slowly I've been feeling this way the majority of the season. Does the Sun missing the playoffs change your view on Kd's legacy?

No, absolutely not. I don't.

I don't think it's changes his legacy. There's only so much KD can do. KD still regardless, and then missing the playoffs will be one of the greatest scores of all time.

Nothing will change that.

I think the the chase of having super teams, I think it's it's come to an end now. I think it's come to an end. Kat's probably going to be moved. He will move on somewhere else where he goes, I'm not sure. I think he will try to get another title or two.

So wherever he chooses to go, I'm sure management might not not.

Cooperate, but probably give him that grace and sending him somewhere where he wants to play and where he has a chance of winning a title.

I don't think Devin Booker is going to be there as well.

I think I think I'm not going to use it.

I don't hate using the term you watch a welcome you don't want to stay too long, similar to but stay with the Blazers a little too long because he wanted to be loyal.

Oh no, you're talking about you talked about KG with the Timberwolves.

No, no, no, with the Trailblazer. Yeah, dang, dang, dang. I don't want Devin Booker to to do that, you know, I don't want you to wear out to welcome and then try to be loyal to a franchise that really really isn't going anywhere. Give yourself a chance, give yourself self a chance to compete at a championship or at least make the playoffs to get past the first round. So I think both of them are probably going, and you know, the Sons are gonna have to scrap everything and really really start all over.

But were just where I would disagree with you.

This notion that we put drop Kevin durant in and that team is automatically a championship contending team is just no longer true. We've seen him get dropped in at Brooklyn. He got swept and he got to the second round. He had a three to two lead and he lost two games, the game seven on his court. We see him go to p with Devin Booker and Bradley Bill. Yes, sir, while his legacy might not be altered, it may or may not. Let's see once his career is done. But this notion that you dropped Kevin Durant in anywhere and they are a championship contending team.

Is no longer true. It's no longer true.

And I don't think I defy the person that can argue that point and say, Shannony, it is true. We saw him with Kyrie, we saw him with James Harden, we saw him with Devin Booker, we saw him with Bradley bial Right. The only thing that we know is Steph Curry, Draymond and Klay Thompson. That was a team that won seventy three games the year before he got there and blew a three.

To one lead.

They beat a team Kevin Durant was on the same was on the team that blew to three one lead to Golden State. Right, Golden State turned around and blew a three to one lead to.

The Cleveland Cavaliers.

So with that being said, I think it's gonna be hard pressed for any analysis for any historian, for any player in the NBA as great as Kevin Durant is, to say that you're just dropping me in and their championship contending team is not not true. It's not true because we've seen we've seen it hold.

On even with him being able to score the way he can.

So what happened? So could he not go in Brooklyn?

Well, you remember everything with Haywire and Brooklyn, with Kyrie and.

What happened in Phoenix. Se we keep weep, we keep safe. See, you keep coming up with excuses. I'm just telling you what.

It's not excuses if if it's documented on what happened Kyrie was in Kyrie. You know, I'm not sure what's wrong with Kyrie.

James Harden. James Harden wanted out.

I mean, seemed like everything fell apart from from what looked good that I thought that even I thought, you know, as as as somewhat of a badasketball fan, I'm like, oh, well, the nest they definitely gonna be. They gonna have a shot. They definitely coming out east. That's what I thought, until you know, Kyrie with the scruntle. James Harden got upset, he wanted out, and Kadi was like.

Why, yeah, why did James Harden want to get out?

Why?

I have no idea.

I don't know what in double type of internal issues they were having. Just from the outside looking in, I thought it was a good guy.

Y'all start this.

See every time we have a conversation, they try to slide Lebron. That's not true because Lebron went to Miami. Okay, what were they doing before Lebron ribbed in Miami? When Lebron left, how long before they got back to another NBA Finals? When Lebron went to Cleveland, how long before they returned to the finals.

They went all four years, they won one.

Kyrie got hurt in the overtime of Game one. Kevin Love never played in that series. He goes to the Lakers and in the second year they win a title. So this notion that when Lebron James goes, the rings don't follow, it's just not true because we've seen him move three times at all three locations. There's a trophy and he's a finals MVP. So this notion that Lebron James doesn't move the needle, it's just not true. You might not like him, you can call him all the names you want, but it's factual.

It's factual, pure and simple. I get it.

He's the most I mean, he has a Ken doll now, the first and athlete to have be a Ken ambassador.

Very unique, unbelievable.

They they got all the details right, but this notion, guys, come on, now, let's be fair. See y'all blame that. So he's in Phoenix. He got Devin Booker, who's an All Star. Bradley Beal was an All Star. They missed the playoffs with three All Stars, they missed the playoffs. They got swept the first year. Come on, man, Cleveland seems to be doing fire without him.

How long is Lebron? Hold on? How long has Lebron been in LA four? Has it been four years?

Like seven years? In nineteen twenty one, two twenty three, twenty four? Six years? Okay, so six years now I know after Lebron left? Give me the pick Darius Garland? What pick was Darius Garland? Because if you're doing well, you're not picking Daris Garland. Daris Garland was the top five pick. Am I correct? He was a fifth pick in the draft? What about Sexton?

What pick was he hold on holding a Sexton?

What pick was Evan Mobley? So this notion y'all talk about Cleveland seem to be just fired.

They should be. They got to talk.

Van Mobley was the third pick in the draft. Daris Garland was the fifth pick in the JAB A car room with the fifth pick in the draft. What pick was? What pick was?

Section?

Mobley was three, Section car Room was five, Garland was five? What about sex? And they ended up trading him to get Donovan Mitchell. He was a lottery pick.

Yeah, he was eight. So I damn sure, hope. So they doing just fine. Now, it took a while. You got a top you got two thoughts, you got three, you got three top five picks. Yeah, three.

Come on now, y'all, don't y'all, y'all, y'all don't want to argue this, y'all, y'all really don't. I got tired tonight. I got tired to night. Y'all don't really want to done. Yeah, y'all know how I do. I do this for a living. I do this for a living.

Y'all. Don't want to argue the facts facts.

I like Katie to Miami, though, I just want I just want to throw that at Yeah.

I was, Oh Joe, I don't see. Here's the problem that you have when you trade for k D. Because you're gonna have to give up so much to get him, because people want to because they gave up so much to get him. Think about what they gave up, what they traded a Michael Bridge I of Cam Johnson for a first round picks. So I need to replenish my cupboard, my pantry for what I lost.

Giving him up. Now, you're never gonna get equal value back there.

You going so already knowing that they can only ask for so much because there is no equal value out there in the NBA outside of players that are untouchable, outside of the players that are gonna be untouchable.

Right, and so that's the thing, O Joe. But see, here's the like him going to Golden State. Because let's just say Golden State had to trade for him, they would have probably had to give up Clay or Draymond.

They would have had to give up a piece. But because he.

Was a free agent, right, it made it easy. It made it easy. I ain't got give up anything. And he took a friend of deal. He could have got more, he took a lot of less money. Okay, he goes to a Brooklyn. He's a free agent. They don't have to give up anything. So now you can trade those pieces. Kyrie was a free agent. They go together, James Harden comes. You had to give up some, but now you got hard and you got Kyrie and you got a KD for whatever happened. James Harden sees where it's going. He's like, man, we can't win here. He wanted to trade. You trade for Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons was damaging Philly. I knew from the.

Time being lost that get they lost that to Atlanta.

I said it was done because once I heard darc talk after the game, I heard Joel and Be talk after the game. Go back and look it up. I said, he's done there. It'll never be the same. It's done. Now you get him now Kyrie, you have the COVID situation. Kyrie doesn't take the COVID vaccination. He has the issue where he tweeted the link. Okay, whatever happened, it happened. He moves. Kd's like, bro, it is what it is not. It's not gonna work. Let me go somewhere. He wanted to go to Phoenix.

He likes book.

Seems like a great but you guy it. But see when you trade the same thing with Mellow when he went to the Knicks, you have to give up so much to get him. You looking at that team, You're like with damn man, I really like that they nice over there. When you get there, they've given up all the top two three of the top picks and draft picks.

Well, how do you how do you build a team? O Joe? You three d You have no depth. Yeah.

See the difference is Boston drafted, drafted. So we got we got, we got our core right now. The verse mistake that they made Milwaukee they traded for Dame. They give up holiday. Well, it seems to me when you give when you give up Dame, Portland says we're going young, to say we'll we'll take.

Holiday, we'll take about your hands.

You get Dereck White on a on a on a deal early, you bring big al back.

Yeah, you made them hold.

So now I can build around because I'm piecing things together. I don't have to give up a whole lot. Because Portland wanted to go young, they weren't asking. They didn't ask for Jalen Brown, they didn't ask for Date. Well, obviously Tatum, you're not getting him, and they swung the deal for Prazingers. Prezingers wanted out. He didn't want to play with with Luca anymore. He said, I'm tired of y'all blaming me for every damn.

Thing, I'm gonna get out.

So that's the problem that you have when you give up so much for KD. What do you have Ojoe? You could have two stars, but what about your bitch? What about your death? That's where the Celtics beat ass. Yeah, they come in with Pritchard, they come in with Houser, they come in with al Horford. Off the bench, you got three perimeter defenders with Holiday, with Derrick White and Jalen Brown. Tatum couldn't defend, obviously, he's not like those guys, but he could defend.

Yeah, you gotta have depth, Okay, see depth?

Damn I don't like that.

That's why Cleveland made the trade to get DeAndre Hunter. They wanted to add strength to their bench because if you can't have a bench. If that's what Golden State used to kick your ass. If they had a lead, the second unit, the shot troops would extend the lead if you had if the other team had the lead, they would cut into it or even the game up. Now you bring Chad, you bring step, you bring Draymond, you bring Clay back.

They run away from you. Yeah.

Well, the way you make it sound, it's like it's impossible it's impossible.

But kdie't go anywhere, so he might as well stay and Phoenix because they're nowhere.

They can get the value all the conversation for him.

The problem else he knows they tried to they wanted, they would they if Kad would have said, yeah, I want to go, they would have moved him.

It was in the middle of the season, so nothing can happen.

But guess what if they want to move you in the middle of the season, what the hell you think they're doing the off season.

Oh, they're gonna move They're gonna move you.

Yeah, they're gonna they're gonna do it.

Hey, how do you think he'll ride in Phoenix? There was a bit of little fever trade. Yeah, so he was not like he wasn't he He's new to this.

That's how he can ride the things I.

Would say during the super Bowl. And it happened during the super Bowl. Remember I told you at our hotel, I walked the hotel. Now I'm like, cannle a ton lass dude, damn kr uh, it's gonna be my thing is It's just that you goulda have to give up so much to get it. They're gonna want I mean if he goes to Miami. Oh yo, who do you think they're gonna want? Are you gonna give up Hero? You're gonna give up Bam, you'll give up hot? What hot smith?

Hot? With the hot smith? How which one is it?

Probably probably probably Tyler?

No, they ain't thet dy ain'tive him Tyler Hero. Well, they got scared Terry Rogier. They gonna probably want to get up off him because he's dealing with the he's dealing with the stuff.

With the gambling and all that. He's been injured. Mmm, that's tough pay.

Pat Dobs said, Oh, you better not let Stephen a slide at the next mester might and lose the third seed to the Pacers Celtics back to back.

Oh no, he already know, he already know. I see his ass this week.

Oh he better not and we go and we mess right, because if I think we played, uh we played Houston tomorrow, right, Houston tomorrow and then Portland on Sunday. All we gotta do is win one game. We got third seed locked up. It's on for him.

Oh he ain't sliding.

Pat generation Ozimpic Olympic Luca is prolific. Sheldon pope KD is going to be looking for a team. O Jo can see KD and your city player for the Heat. What's the pitch O joking? You can sell KT to come to Miami and play, And I.

Mean it's Miami. Miami. Is Miami a place like here?

I think if we get we can get pat Riley to take a back seat and not try to be the enforcer in the ruler of always that.

Yeah, the Miami.

He was in the midst of a twenty seven game winning streat and to cert his power, he took cookies that he knew Lebron James was looking for. Does that strike you as a guy that's willing to see anything.

Yeah, you're right, You're right, you're right.

But if we if we here, Heat Nation want to get back to our winning ways, we need someone like Kevin Durant to come in here and just give us a chance.

I'm not you need to pat Riley to stop trying to assert his power.

Well, we need Mickey Harrison need to talk to him. Then, Mickey need to say something.

I mean, pat has an ownership state.

It got Mickey and his son are the major and his family are the majority owner.

You have a percentage in there that happen