NightcapNightcap - Hour 1: Bengals miss playoffs, CM Punk joins the show, Unc slams Pickens
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson recap the top stories from the final week of the regular season including Unc roasting Ocho over his Bengals for narrowly missing the playoffs, CM Punk joins the show, Unc slams George Pickens and says the Steelers need to ditch the WR and much more!
03:00 - Unc is hype about his Broncos…and roasts Ocho about his Bengals
09:19 - Jets vs. Dolphins
17:50 - Panthers vs. Falcons
26:10 - CM Punk joins the show
33:25 - George Pickens got punished for his bad behavior
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The quarterback like to get Gibbs. I got the Bengals.
I got them that halfty baton who said cause you know you got to clean out your lock of them all. I got you from Logy. I got the more of the pluggage deft this half to Baton to put all this stuff in it to make sure they get.
It from Oh man, listen, you ain't got to do that, because you know what I got. I got them for you. I got them for you. Since since you talking spody, right, since you're talking spody, that my funny.
I know that you ain't mention enough about my money.
I'll get a thousand right, don't do you owe me a thousand on top of the three you already owed me? So how dont you running me my money? I'm back at four thousand again show lives. Okay, you was at three, but you see I told you, I said, Oh Joe, I don't want to bet you.
Listen, I don't want to do this, O Jo, I m get leta give you money.
I'm gonna give you mo we want we want to give it to you at you want me zell it to you, I get sell it to you.
Right? No, do no, do no, do don't get no no matter of fact.
No.
I want to pay. I want to pay my debt. You're gonna let me. It's my turn.
Now.
I want both thousand dollars, right, both thousand dollars.
How you wanny Buffalo Nikels, rugby four grad of Buffalo Nickels. Hey, huh? How you wanting?
Man? Come on, man for real, I want Buffalo Nickels. I don't I don't know what no Buffalo Nicklas is. Don't worry about it. That's not your job. Go to the bank, go to the cashier and say you like four thousand dollars in Buffalo nikels.
Is there such thing? Whoa is there?
God?
I've never heard of anything called buffalo Nichols. That's not a currency. That's not a currency here in the States. Can I please just zell your your money so I ain't got to hear nothingbody in the more?
Teddy says no.
Teddy Bear says no, you cannot sell me my money, or you give me four thousand dollars a week pennies? Who four thousand dollars a week pennies? What's a week penny?
Whoa?
Whoa?
Whoa?
You know what?
What I'm noticing is you're asking a lot of questions, But I'm asking I'm asking a lot of questions because down here in Miami, at Bank of America, at Chase, at Navy Federal, we don't talk. We don't know nothing about no wheat pennies, and we don't know nothing nothing. But we don't know nothing about no Buffalo Nichols. I've never heard of these phrases, my buffalo nickels. And I told you I don't have cash out, so you can't. I don't even mentioned cash up. Everybody has zel If I don't you have an iPhone? Don't you Yes, Okay, you got Apple pay, I can applepay to you. Then I don't got no Apple pay. I got your pay. Now run me by money.
I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to pay. You talking about who? Keep on talking about what you got and all this right here?
But the ball?
What's you talking? Because you asked me questions, don't it You asked me what yours down for? Chase?
Listen, listen, Oh Jo, please, I said, oh yo, get apart me. I was down last week. I said, oh yo, come on, o Jo, you got me. Don't you say about a In fact, don't even make reference to a ball. I don't want to say soccer. I don't want to hear you say basket because they use I said couple on old Joe.
No.
So now look here, but listen. You know what you you you're a little you're a little too happy. Now you very very happy. You know who y'all got to play in the first round. I tell you, I tell you, hey, you know who y'all got to play in the first round. Right, So I don't make sure the next week's episode, when I bring some trash bags in here, when I bring and I and we break it down.
Can't coon on three? One two three? Can't coon? I don't want they hit nothing for the chat. I want you to say what you just said. You say, Oh, do you know who y'all played next week?
Right?
I want you to do I want to know, Oh, Joe, who do the Bengals play next week? Oh? So you happy? You happy? We went home? Out? Hold on? You think I take great pleasure in this?
Let me ask you, man, Let me ask you something for the people in the If you're a Bronco fan, are you that happy that we got a vacation a week earlier than you? That's it, That's all it is. We got a vacation a week earlier than you because you're gonna be home next week too, And I'm gonna help you pack. I'm gonna help you pack.
Yeah, okay, what you got? Hey? Listen, Hey, listen, hey one, Hey, that's that boy right there.
Man, that's that's that what Now, I'm not talking aout your team. I'm talking about the individual that happened to play for your team. I'm talking about the individuals that happens to play for your team.
Yeah. He talking about somebody that plays in the blue and orange. No no, no, no, no no, no matter fact that your team have orange in there. He don't do that.
Wanting all laport, dead glass, some of that ott shape off the counter. What you finish celebrate woaha said it's gonna be It's gonna be a short celebration. I don't know why he's celebrating. Can I ask your question? Can I ask your question? Do you know who you guys are playing in the first round next week?
Who y'all not? Okay, I understand that you're scared to say the name. I know we played Buffalo.
Okay, Okay, you know y'all playing at in Buffalo am WAYE Stadium. I think Okay, I'm just making sure you know what Josh Allen fini to do. The y'all he finishing your home packing? Okay, you finishing your home packing? How that make you feel? So you get you listen, you getting all hype, You're happy, but you're getting ready to go home. Anyway, next week all of us go to be in Cancun.
The Jets defeated the Dolphins thirty two to twenty, but the big news came out after the game. Tyreek Hill basically said he waded out of the Dolphins organization, his.
Emotional the win understanding he's always been in the playoffs and then having to be home. Ain't enough Patrick Mahomes to go to tour? What did he think?
Now?
Remember he was running his mouth. Tour is more accurate than Patrick Mahomes.
He's sticking it for his quarterback. They'm gonna do that.
Come on now, oh Joe, you mean to tell me? Okay, so you're gonna say, oh yeah, but what you call him is better than Tom Brady. Ain't no sense of doing that. Ain't nobody believe that. Ain't nobody said tour plus his injury history, which you knew. But I go to show your fan you see, thirty million came by your happiness when you get your eyes beat there. You play with a quarterback that's injury prone, so you're dependent on that. The backup can come in and keep that thing going. What's the one thing about how many games I pat? You Mahomes, bess, that's why you factor in all of that. When you make a decision like you make, you got the money. But look at them stats. He looking at all them guys that got them stabs or Joe Tyreek Hill has never not been to the Pro Bowl. Now when they talk about oh Joe, last year, the players voted him the number one player. Think he's gonna be this year.
Let's let's let's talk about this. Go ahead, let's talk where can we see Tyreek Hill going? Being that he's put that out there like that, understanding his frustrations and not having the type of season that Tyreek Hill should have. Who by all means, regardless of this down season, it's still a top three, top five wide receiver in the NFL.
Correct, Hey, I don't know what he is. Oh, I don't hell top five? What a what? Top five receivers?
You know?
Requesting the trade?
Now I know now we're not Now, we're not gonna do this. We We're not gonna do this on Beyonce's Internet. We're not gonna do this on Beyonces internet. Tyreek Hill is not a top five player just simply because down the year it was let to come on that.
Don't don't do me like that. Don't do me like that.
With understanding to his injuries, backups, thing suffer, he can't throw the ball to him.
Said that in when you made that, Todd too of him was hurt before you got there. He was hurt in college. You didn't factor that in.
You didn't care. Hold on every chance he got. He took a shot at the Kansas City Chiefs. They didn't have to trade it. They traded it with years left on his contract. They offered him money, but they couldn't get to the guarantee.
They were trying to low ball him. Don't do that.
You remember the year before they asked him, would he restructure the contract? Tyreek Hill said no, what's outside of the contract? Outside the contract, ain't no restructure. Now what happened to that?
A year later?
If you signed a contract and you don't restructure in their favor, watching they sign a contract for you, you favor, please say that. I'm just going by what he said. Now, if it's a lie he said it, we can pull the taps if you want to. You see, you see what happens. You see what happened when you Oh Joe, He didn't have to say. Kansas City done right by him. I got fired by CBS. You've never ever heard me a bad word about CBS.
Fox. Let me go.
I have under the bad word. They gave me an opportunity. CBS gave me my first media job on network television certificate network. I'm grateful FS one gave me a chance to show that I can do. I could be more better football player. I could talk about more sports than just football. I'm forever grateful. That's not what he did with Kansas City. Every chance he got, he took a shot at him. Now look at it should be made to stay his ass in Maya and nah.
He gonna be alright, he gonna be all right, But we're gonna get it done. But you know, once you put the bait out there like that, you know team gonna come and call and that.
I'll a lowball you because I know he won't out. Why would I give you what he's worth when I know he won't out. I know you look, I know your high is about to go in foreclosure. I'm not finna give you what it's worth. I know you need to sell that car. I'm not gonna give you what it's worth. You got valuable, you got watchers, you got whatever the case may be. Why would I pay you what is worth when I know you got to get up offers he's seeing. Think about it, Think about how how it would have looked a three time Super Bowl chap. Now, maybe he doesn't have seventeen hundred yards, But O Joe, what's the difference between fifteen You think if Tyreek Hill stayed in Kansas City and instead of having seventeen hundred eighteen hundred yards, he had fifteen hundred yards, do their view Tyreek any differently?
They don't, They don't, they don't. You know, you see how you putting the bait out there?
Though?
What if? What if he in up back in Kansas City.
I'm sure that, I'm sure my homeboy love to have it. Yeah, mm hmm, come back home tail talk between your legs on ah, you see that, old Joe. It's funny to have that thing work. Add Sometimes sometimes you gotta go back to your ex. There's no place like home in that what dark whoa, whoa whoa? You think I about to let you speak that at there? Y'all heard of that?
You think I'm about to sleep let you speak that at So what you try to get an O Joe? Oh No, no, no, I'm just saying. I'm just saying it.
Ain't no just there's never there's never, There's no such thing as just. There's always a reason nobody just does anything. Do you just sit in your car, or do you give me your car to go to work? Or do you getting your car to go to the gym? Or do you get your car to go to the store, or do you get your car to go to the airport. There's never just there's always a reason. Now again I'm using the reference. I was just using the reference in general. I'm reference in general.
Sometimes sometimes you don't understand what you got until it's gone. So Tyreek with a great understanding after a short stand here in Miami.
What's going that you understand? Have a better understanding and appreciation for? Oooh damn? Can you fly? Let me see you turn your head all the way around? So you ain't no hours? So I ain't talking about you? You you.
Right? I mean you asked the question again. I didn't hear you. Yeah, I say, what what have you lost that you realized that it was? It's better home than a way?
Was?
I was in referenceing. We don't talking about Tyreek him. We were talking about Tyreek. Okay, Okay.
The Bears did something they haven't done O Joe since twenty eighteen. They defeated the Packers on a walk off fifty one yard field goal twenty on for the twenty two. Green Bay was right to play for the sixth seed in Week eighteen, but leaving the game with injury Kristin Watson with a knee, Jeordan Love with an elbow.
Scary times in Green Bay. You have to wait.
There was no diagnosis after the game. Watson looked like a non contact It didn't look good. It did not look good. Oh Joe, Jeordan Loved elbow. He left the game, did not come back. Caleb Williams twenty one touchdown, DJ Moore nine catches eighty six yards and a touchdown. Keenland Allen had three for twenty five. Malik willis chen of thirteen. Bro, Malie, if you want to play a lot long time in the NFL, you better see that pre release safety to hit you in your damn chest. Now you look at that was a safety. What if that was a linebacker?
Oyo, Oh, it wouldn't have been nice. That wouldn't have been nice. How you not, Oh, Joe, how do you not see that? He ain't said you know, you know when the game and the game is moving on.
Oh Joe, I'm a right handed quarterback. That guy hit me in my face? Do you know how hard it is for a guy to get a shot? Yes, you right handed? That guy hit you in your faith, not your back, the left side of your blind side. You a right handed quarterback? Oh Joe? Did he not hear the line? It looked like they live the call in man of the line of script is your guy? You gotta throw hot off him right?
He never saw it. Did the receipt the receiver it hot? He didn't even look to see he did.
Ohoe, I'm just being an artist. You remember earning the rookie season, Justin Fields got caught with a shot just like that. They knock gets him at all. Remember, I don't want to take too many of those shots, not no clear shot like that. You will get enough hits in your back. You know you throw the ball, oh yo, and they get you at the last second. Ro You don't want to make a living taking crash crash dummy shots. Oh Jo, It wasn't great. They only had no a little over two hundred yards two thirty two forty. But Kayler Williams with twenty one of twenty nine. Okay, that's good night. He made some throws. Sometimes I think he tries to throw too much off ballance, but the throat he had the DJ MORI was off ballance changed arm angles. But uh, I think with the right coach, I think they can. I think they got talent on the office side of football.
I really I was just getting ready to say that, you get the right coach in there. You know with him, boys, sky's a limit, Sky's a limit.
You can see. Kayler William gives you hope. Kayler William gives you promise. You know, based on what you know, you can do.
Again, I said about quarterbacks all the time. He plays good in starts, but you can see the potential. Let him get the right coach in now and watch.
What happened o Joe Hanster defeated the Falcons in overtime. Bryce Young does it. They walk it off forty four thirty eight. Bryce Young accountlor five one two three or five three passing two rushing as they beat the Falcons forty four to thirty eight and Otie Falcons missed the place.
I think bright.
I think Carolina found a quarterback of the future that had him all along. Guys started making plays. If you go back and look at that game, look at them guys making plays. Kocher made some hell of a plates Adam Thiela made. I mean, guys made tough catches today, o Jo.
That's what you have to do.
Guys have to make I mean, you have to make tough catches for a guy. I mean, damn, the guy can't put it between the numbers all the time, is anywhere in the vicinity. Just put it in the area.
That's all I did.
Especially, you got a young quarterback, he's struggling, Make some tough catches. Let him get you confidence. He was twenty five or thirty four, two fifty one, three touchdowns. Michael Pennix Junior had an outstanding day at a losing effort. He was twenty one and thirty six three twelve, two touchdowns, one in reception. B John Robinson had a monster They running the football twenty eight rushers, one hundred and seventy yards, two tds. They ran the ball thirty six times too. Twenty seven. Drake London mobs today ten catches for buck eighty seven two TVs, eighteen targets. Ray Ray McLeod had four for sixty six. Kyle Piss had two three targets, two catches fifteen yards. They are a couple of players away, I think Carolina. Look, I'm not saying they about to be Detroit. They're about to twist this thing around. But I know they got their quarterback. Now get get him a little offensive. Look did the great job, he got no sacks. Protect him a little better. Get a couple offensive linemens.
Hey, you know what if they they get them.
I ain't saying that if they get like a I'm not saying there is one out there like a Jamar Chase Justin Jefferson, like a elite neighbors.
Yeah, I'm talking about one of them, the Brian Toman Jr. Win them type like one of them type like yeah, like.
Like that that boy, because I like I like Bryce Young. Yeah he's frail. Yeah, he's five ten. Yeah, he's spent o Joe. He's never gonna be too twenty. So stop saying if he gained weight, he not. That's not his frame. His frame can't carry to twenty. That's like trying to That's like trying to put an eighteen wheeler motor in a boat.
Is at what is? What are you gonna do and help with his skill set? Nothing? Nothing?
You like you and you like him to gave a lower Wait, see if he gave ten pounds on Joe, because he looked like he about what eighty on Joe. You want to take some You want to take some of that. You want some cushion to take some of them blows. But he not gonna beat. He not gonna beat. He's not gonna be an overly large man. That's not his frame. So we can stop that. But the passers win the final game of the season forty four thirty eight and overtime. Bryce Young five touchdowns, three passing, two rushing. You have to feel you have to feel good with what you saw with Bryce Young today. Those young receivers stepped up defensively. Look, they gave up, but they got to stop.
When they needed it. And here we are.
Bryce Young did it. The Cardinals defeated the forty nine Ers forty seven to twenty four. Kylin ends the season with a four touchdown to day. It's Kylin. Oh yo, let me ask you this. Do you keep Kyler try to build or what are you gonna do?
You mean? Yeah, you keeping that? You think Kyler's happy in Arizona.
Damn, that's a good question. I would think so you have a you have a you have an okay offensive line. You got James Connor, you got Marvin Harrison Jr. I mean, do you really, do you really you look at the landscape of the NFL. Any other team that you can go to, any other team you can go to.
I like it.
Twenty five or thirty five, two four touchdowns, uh Trey McBrien got another touchdown, seven sixty five, one touchdown, Marvin Harrison Junior five to sixty three, one touchdown, George four for forty seven, two touchdowns, Zay Joe.
I think that's Jay Jones four for forty six.
They were out James Connor, but they read the ball twenty seven times for one fifty one. Joshua Dobbs didn't play bad, turned the ball over it. You got a touchdown of turnovers twenty nine to forty three, three twenty six. Ricky Pirisol six for sixty nine on a touchdown. Kyle Houst check h had a touchdown. But when you turn the ball over uh three time, you're probably gonna lose the game, especially when you play on the road.
See him, pump, see him what it doing.
How you guys doing tonight?
See I'm not getting I'm not feeling good. Cem.
My Bengals are going home, My bangers are going home. Uncle's making fun of me. He's embarrassing me in front of people I love in the chat. And then I'm trying to find a way to get over it. I'm trying to find ways to get around the fact that we not only did we lose. You know, the Chiefs didn't even try today. They didn't even pinched the Broncos. You know, they didn't fight, They didn't They just laid down. They laid down. So I have I have no way to actually to fight for myself. I'm doing everything i can not to cry to night. So far I'm doing.
Okay, keep your head above water. If I could give you any bit of advice, I uh and this is coming. This is coming from a Chicago sports fan. There, Cubs, there's always next year, Chad, There's always next year.
I like that. I'll take that. Yep, that's what I was gonna get.
Your Bears did something that hadn't been done since twenty and eighteen. They beat the Green Bay Packers. It was the final game of the season, but it showed hopefully, it gave you hope showed you what to potentially beat for your Chicago Bears.
Hope is a four layer word in Chicago sports.
There was hope at the beginning of the season.
I just en comforted in the fact that I can at least make fun of the Green Bay Packers and their fans for losing to this Bear squad. That's the hope, that's the that's the silver lining in the Bears game.
Let me ask you this, you won't like the Bears.
You on Netflix, specially when they had the Christmas they gave yea and you were very outspoken about your Bears ownership.
Yeah, you're like, bro, y'all need to sell the team.
Yeah, cause this is this is this has been terrible for a long time and it's been a long time coming. What you saw todate they beat the Package for the first time in five h five years.
Does that give you hope that they're trending.
In the right direction, that they have the right pieces in place, even if they don't have a coach currently.
Yeah, you know, I think the coach is obviously a big part of it, unless they're going to field the team with no coach, which might be kind of interesting At this point, because you know, we had Lovey Smith, great coach, right, super super elite dynamic.
And he went tennis six and got yr Yeah, and he couldn't figure it out.
You know.
So after a while, listen, this is I was born and raised in Chicago, eighty five bears. I could sing you the Super Bowl shuffle backwards. You know what I mean that I look back at it and historically everything I know now, I look at that team and I'm like, that should have been a dynasty, Buddy, Ryan Ditka, like all those players, Like when we only won one, and it just feels like, as a Chicago sports fan, you get that one and then it just feels like another one hundred years of pain because you're just like, well, we won that, know, Cubs Cubs fans one hundred, one hundred and eight years, and all of a sudden, it's just.
Like, oh, well, we wanted you had you had for those years.
Yeah.
But that's to me, that's the standard of being a Chicago sports fan. Brother, Like, oh yeah, yeah, we expect and we demand greatness. You know, we get these generational players, these generational talents and stuff like that. I can only look at the management and the ownership after a while, when all these pieces are in place and nothing works, you know, after a while looking at the mccaskes, and I'm here in chatter about, oh, we need a new stadium, you know, because the city owned Soldier Field and we're not getting concession money. And after a while, I'm just like, okay, you just you just agree the owner and you don't care about winning sports fans all across the world no matter where you're at, whatever city you're in, you rep that city, you love that city. You show out to that city. You want winners. And that's the bottom line.
I need.
I need an owner. He's going to field the team of winners.
See. Man, you you mentioned that you got injured, you sustained an injury last year. If you don't mind reflecting that injury, what happened and what's the worst injury that you have sustained in your professional wrestling career? O?
Man, this one was.
I think this one was pretty bad just because of uh, you know, my age and everything. And I told my right tricep tendon completely off the ball, and that's a bad one. Especially I think in football that's normally a career ender. If I'm not mistaken.
No, it's not a career, but it's normally season.
Okay, yeah, season, and my season definitely ended that day. That's that's for certain. I had I had a night where I woe was mead and I cried about it and I was upset. I just come back to the WWE after ten years of being gone and was looking forward to doing you know, just awesome, awesome stuff, and it came to a screeching holt, you know, and as an athlete who's somebody who's active every day, you guys know, if you can't if you can't play, if you can't do what you do, if you can't go to the gym, you lose your mind.
And I I lost my mind.
I felt bad about it for about eight minutes, had to cry, and then realized that at that moment, it felt like the worst thing that had ever happened to me. So I wanted to do the impossible and flip it and make it the best thing that ever happened to me.
You know.
I think we did that over the year, fortunately for me, you know, in the sport and in the business we're in, we don't always have to be one hundred percent. And I was injured on a swing and I was in the ring. I was, you know, talking my mess, cutting promos and stuff like that, and I was still a real contribute, so that that was like a weight off my shoulders.
When you got them when you sustain that injury. Did you know something right away with wrong? Oh? Yeah, oh yeah.
I don't know if you've ever done a try set, but it just feels like a rubber band in your elbow snaps. I've done my left one. No pain in that one. They did the right one. It hurt like a son of a bitch.
And I don't know why.
I don't don't know what the difference was between the two. Uh, but yeah, I knew. I knew I was I knew I was out immediately.
See did you always want to be a wrestler? Did you?
Did you? Did you play sports growing up? Did you know watching this like this is the direction that I want to go and I want to be in this sport.
Yeah, I played baseball when I I tried that for my football and wrestling team when I was in high school. But they told me I had to cut my hair and I pieced it.
Out.
After that, I was like, and now I look in every jock in the world just got like a wild mohawk, and I'm like, that was me when I was fourteen, Like, why wouldn't you let me on the team?
What the heck? I didn't?
Uh?
I grew up.
I like to say I was economically challenged, you know, so like most of them, most of the sports were pretty expensive. Couldn't play hockey because I couldn't afford skates or pads or sticks. Baseball was was pretty cheap, and then everything I was a catcher, everything changed for me when I had to get glasses. The mask wouldn't fit over my my coke bottle glasses, and my parents wouldn't suspend the money for contacts. So my baseball career was cut short.
See him, Pump, thank you for joining Nightcap. We greatly appreciate that.
Man.
Good luck, And let me tell you, if at any point you need a partner tag team with that, I'm always available.
Let's go.
As long as your last name's not McCaskey. You're my Huckleberry, all.
Right, I got you, I got you.
I love football guns, I love him, and I love when they punished bad behavior. They punished George Dickens, the night and I love it. And I've been telling you from day one. I say, you know what, Mike Tomlin, you condone George Pickens's behavior. You tolerate things on the win you never would in a lost And I told you I saw this with ab in twenty sixteen.
Now you see this. Now I come with pickets. It come with Deontay Johnson.
Mike Tomlin will tolerate negative behavior if he wins the game.
And now I look at you. Look it.
George Pickens basically lost him the game tonight because he was awful. He wasn't awful, old Joe, and you think it it? Oh, he can make plays, don't look at the play that. Hey, I'll let you talk about your team, the Bengals and Aaron Rodgers.
We have this moment.
You have been George Think's biggest supporter, even when he wouldn't run, even when he wouldn't recover a fumble. You supported it, even when he he was the reason that the interception happened in Pittsburgh to prior move.
You supported it.
Now I want you pull on yes chat Now, I want you to put on your best support and support George Pinkett for the for the game.
That he had tonight. He had a bad game. He had a bad game, and you don't know if you know what I can say he had a bad game. He has to watch that film. He has to have a better understanding, and you can't perform like this. Obviously, they're the fifth seed, right, They're the fifth seed, So the Broncos, Dolphins or Bengals can only be the same of a seed. The only thing that can flip would be the Charger if they win, they're the five Steelers of the six and then you get Bengals, Dolphins or Broncos as the seventh seed. But again let's go back to George Pickens. Pick you can't have a game like that.
You can't.
You can't.
If anything, you need to be the reason why your team is winning. They have to count on you. You are the team's best offensive weapon. Therefore, you got to always be on point. Your feet always got to be ten toes every time you step on the field. You have to understand that you have to move as such, how value you are to the Steelers, you have to That also comes with growth. That also comes with understanding on how important I am to the not only the franchise, but my team's success offensively, he.
Got the understand So where are you gonna understand that? Because you saw that behavior last year in Cincinnati? You stawted any last year when he went chase, we wouldn't hustle. He gains up on the plane that got picked me personally, I don't believe you can win with it. Yeah, I want somebody else to win. I want him to grow with somebody else.
Okay, you know what.
I understand what you're talking about. Right, I understand what you're talking about. But let's not let's not let's not mistake and understand the type of talent that is.
Well.
I don't see Randy Moss talent. I don't see random Moss talent. So I gotta let him go.
Through that.
I gotta let him go then. So because because because that behavior his play, don't overcompensate his behavior, because and I unders look at if he's more talent than ab.
So what did they do to A b O? Joe? Tell the people for the people that don't realize what happened? What did Pittsburgh do? What they be they had the Paul Wade on, I want you to understand and when Ocho and I we talk.
We talk a lot of stuff about sports, but this applies to regular life and a regular job situation. Also, your employer will tolerate you until he can replace you. They will tolerate until they can replace. Now, let me tell you what happened. If you're a really good player and you got negative behavior, when that time come, it makes it real easy for them to get off you.
Yes, sir, you see how easy it was for the Packers to get rid of Aaron Rodgers?
What?
Wait? How many years? How many years? First?
Now?
But you missed the point. They will tolerate your to I'm not supporting. I'm not. I'm not I'm not supporting. I'm telling you how long they got rid of him. They tolerated that behavior until they could do what O Joe, what are the Jets gonna do?
What?
You now, if you had to put some money down to the Jets keep him or let him go? Hey, you know what? That's you know what.
I'm glad you said that. Listen to me, Listen to me real quick, stay with me. You understand how difficult it is to find a quarterback now, as bad as he's played this year. Who do you think they'd rather gambled with. Do you think they'd rather get him with somebody that is new, we don't know what you get it? Or someone that has a resume. Do you think he got that resume? What have they gotten them?
Nothing? But it's that resident that hasn't in the position you I believe do you believe they can find another quarterback and go four to eleven? Yes? Or no? Yes?
So why keep Aaron Rodgers and pay him fifty million? And you can give somebody else and pay him ten, fifteen, maybe even twenty or even thirty. So what's the what's the upside of keeping Aaron Rodgers? First of all, Oh, Joe, he hadn't won the Super Bowl? Yes, in fourteen years? Now you believe in you're twenty one.
Right, that there's a chance he could do it? No, No, thinking like a GM, thinking like an owner. Their belief is based on what he has done.
Is you know what?
He gives a chance, there's hope. I don't believe GM feel that same way anymore. I don't. Don't you'll think, Joe, I don't, Okay, s me to me, ask your son, Kirk Cousins. Everybody feel. Everybody feels Kirk cousins Worth.
You know, you know he can go get three one hundred whatever million from goddamn Atlanta Falcons, but he won one playoff game.
We look at Patrick Mahomes, the Josh Allen, the Joe Burrows, and Lamar Jackson's the Jordan Loves the c. J Shrouds, Jaydon Daniels playing Weather's here.
It's very hard to get and find a quarterback where you know, once we get somebody in that position at the helm, we can build around that. Sometimes it's so hard to find. You got to go with someone old, someone that's done it before. Even then, even if you got to take him out to the passion and it's time.
For him to just go.
If he was a locker room presence, now why would I keep him? When he adds he brings no value to my locker room?
Come on now, now, I'm listen. I'm with you when you're right.
Sometimes and people don't want to realize how important the locker room is until there's chaos, until the culture is in shambles, and then you realize the presence, how important locker room presence is.
This is not an accident.
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